Comments on: Bujang Valley proof of earliest civilization in south east asia http://poobalan.com/blog/borninmalaysia/2010/03/08/bujang-valley-proof-of-earliest-civilization-in-south-east-asia/ SwarnaBumiputran of Malaysia Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:50:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: Franky@Dany http://poobalan.com/blog/borninmalaysia/2010/03/08/bujang-valley-proof-of-earliest-civilization-in-south-east-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-42735 Franky@Dany Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:40:45 +0000 http://poobalan.com/blog/?p=6415#comment-42735 well,according to some historian.That monumen,are use to worship the sun god(Animism) not Hindoo/Buddhist religion...When we look at that monument.We can tell that it doesnt have any hindu influence at all...and of course they already did the radiocarbon test...who an idiot will make that kind of statement without any research....? well,according to some historian.That monumen,are use to worship the sun god(Animism) not Hindoo/Buddhist religion…When we look at that monument.We can tell that it doesnt have any hindu influence at all…and of course they already did the radiocarbon test…who an idiot will make that kind of statement without any research….?

]]> By: Fairuzstone http://poobalan.com/blog/borninmalaysia/2010/03/08/bujang-valley-proof-of-earliest-civilization-in-south-east-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-32629 Fairuzstone Wed, 19 May 2010 10:43:56 +0000 http://poobalan.com/blog/?p=6415#comment-32629 Indian from southern and Malays are long friend for thousands year.. Since hindhu and buddhist civilization prospered from India to Malays Archipelago, to Siamese and Indo China as well as until China, I subscribe that the Malays had admired the Indian civilization that's why before the arrival of Islam, most Malay king adopted many Indian characteristic including for example Merong mahawangsa of Kadaha (now Kedah), Dharma raja and Balaputera (the malay king from Srivijaya and Sailendra) as well as Siamese kings like Raja Rama Tibodhi... Even though they embraced hINDHU or Buddhist and some royal malays can speak and write Sanskerta and Pallava scripts well, they are still Malays in terms or race... but we maintain respect unto literature, religous ritual, indian names and architecture from India such as from Pallava and Nalanda... That's why in ancient times indian traders and monarch sit side by side with Malays noblemen, royalty and scholars too in harmony.. And some hindhu holy books and literature like Mahabhrata and Romance of Deva Rama & Sittha Devi and many more were translated into malay language, for exmple Hikayat sri Rama dan sita Dewi, Hikayat Sang Rjuna Tapa, Hikayat Arjuna the great Archerer and also Hikayat Pandawa Lima.. So we are destined to be friends for many thousand years.. Cheers.. Truly Fairuz bin Kamarulzaman fairuz_k_zaman@yahoo.com Indian from southern and Malays are long friend for thousands year.. Since hindhu and buddhist civilization prospered from India to Malays Archipelago, to Siamese and Indo China as well as until China, I subscribe that the Malays had admired the Indian civilization that’s why before the arrival of Islam, most Malay king adopted many Indian characteristic including for example Merong mahawangsa of Kadaha (now Kedah), Dharma raja and Balaputera (the malay king from Srivijaya and Sailendra) as well as Siamese kings like Raja Rama Tibodhi… Even though they embraced hINDHU or Buddhist and some royal malays can speak and write Sanskerta and Pallava scripts well, they are still Malays in terms or race… but we maintain respect unto literature, religous ritual, indian names and architecture from India such as from Pallava and Nalanda…

That’s why in ancient times indian traders and monarch sit side by side with Malays noblemen, royalty and scholars too in harmony..

And some hindhu holy books and literature like Mahabhrata and Romance of Deva Rama & Sittha Devi and many more were translated into malay language, for exmple Hikayat sri Rama dan sita Dewi, Hikayat Sang Rjuna Tapa, Hikayat Arjuna the great Archerer and also Hikayat Pandawa Lima..

So we are destined to be friends for many thousand years.. Cheers..

Truly
Fairuz bin Kamarulzaman
fairuz_k_zaman@yahoo.com

]]> By: parthiben madasamy http://poobalan.com/blog/borninmalaysia/2010/03/08/bujang-valley-proof-of-earliest-civilization-in-south-east-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-29656 parthiben madasamy Thu, 01 Apr 2010 03:31:59 +0000 http://poobalan.com/blog/?p=6415#comment-29656 Ermm..I'm not much in clear with Mr tamilselvam's comment, so it will be enlighting if he could explain further on his stand. Maybe he's trying to say that since the inscription is in Sanskrit, it could be not be from Tamil Nadu..perhaps from Northern region? Ermm..I’m not much in clear with Mr tamilselvam’s comment, so it will be enlighting if he could explain further on his stand. Maybe he’s trying to say that since the inscription is in Sanskrit, it could be not be from Tamil Nadu..perhaps from Northern region?

]]> By: tamilselvam http://poobalan.com/blog/borninmalaysia/2010/03/08/bujang-valley-proof-of-earliest-civilization-in-south-east-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-28725 tamilselvam Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:39:13 +0000 http://poobalan.com/blog/?p=6415#comment-28725 Of course,there were hindu temple's,it is a fact.Once upon a time,this were part of hindu civilastion....Hindu religion at age was feudalistic.Each kingdom worshipped their own deity,if a king lose's in war,then he will have to worship the deity of the victorious king. sankrit is not anyway related to dravidan laugauge like tamil,we can't claim victory for someone's else accomplishment.In malaysia we call everyone as indians,but in india caste and ethincity are still domianat,just rember tamil-nadu form just around 4% of the total indian population.Here we worship all diety's,but in india it is not the case.Most of our malaysian indians are low-caste,technically if our father's had been cleaning the toilet then we need do that too.That's what the in the age of king's most of our ancestors did.So,how can we claim glory for something that we were never part of ? The instituations of the learning are reserved for kings,nobels and brahimins only...so,if we turn the clock around to that age,i am not too sure many of us would like it. Maybe we can just say we are related to this king and so on,but the reality is far from it Of course,there were hindu temple’s,it is a fact.Once upon a time,this were part of hindu civilastion….Hindu religion at age was feudalistic.Each kingdom worshipped their own deity,if a king lose’s in war,then he will have to worship the deity of the victorious king.
sankrit is not anyway related to dravidan laugauge like tamil,we can’t claim victory for someone’s else accomplishment.In malaysia we call everyone as indians,but in india caste and ethincity are still domianat,just rember tamil-nadu form just around 4% of the total indian population.Here we worship all diety’s,but in india it is not the case.Most of our malaysian indians are low-caste,technically if our father’s had been cleaning the toilet then we need do that too.That’s what the in the age of king’s most of our ancestors did.So,how can we claim glory for something that we were never part of ? The instituations of the learning are reserved for kings,nobels and brahimins only…so,if we turn the clock around to that age,i am not too sure many of us would like it.
Maybe we can just say we are related to this king and so on,but the reality is far from it

]]> By: poobalan http://poobalan.com/blog/borninmalaysia/2010/03/08/bujang-valley-proof-of-earliest-civilization-in-south-east-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-27886 poobalan Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:52:17 +0000 http://poobalan.com/blog/?p=6415#comment-27886 Jack Daniels, Well, maybe someone gave Rais wrong script to read :-) Maybe they haven't really done testing on the articles excavated from the site. I have no idea on the Sanskrit letters found there. Need to wait till its published in public. Jack Daniels,

Well, maybe someone gave Rais wrong script to read :-) Maybe they haven’t really done testing on the articles excavated from the site.

I have no idea on the Sanskrit letters found there. Need to wait till its published in public.

]]> By: Jack Daniels http://poobalan.com/blog/borninmalaysia/2010/03/08/bujang-valley-proof-of-earliest-civilization-in-south-east-asia/comment-page-1/#comment-27867 Jack Daniels Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:48:42 +0000 http://poobalan.com/blog/?p=6415#comment-27867 Dear Poobalan, Pallava Dynasty is one of the ancient dynasties from Tamil Nadu. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallava Pallava inscriptions means that Tamils were already here such a long time ago. But I think the dates are incorrect because the earliest the Pallava Dynasty could have started is from AD275 onwards (see wikipedia "Pallava Chronology"). But Rais says the site was dated around AD100. It is interesting to note Rais said the inscriptions are in Sanskrit, do have an idea what it looks like, is it similar to the one the British found in Seberang Perai? http://exhibitions.nlb.gov.sg/kaalachakra/contact-Influence-Localisation2.htm Rgds Dear Poobalan,
Pallava Dynasty is one of the ancient dynasties from Tamil Nadu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallava

Pallava inscriptions means that Tamils were already here such a long time ago.

But I think the dates are incorrect because the earliest the Pallava Dynasty could have started is from AD275 onwards (see wikipedia “Pallava Chronology”). But Rais says the site was dated around AD100.

It is interesting to note Rais said the inscriptions are in Sanskrit, do have an idea what it looks like, is it similar to the one the British found in Seberang Perai?

http://exhibitions.nlb.gov.sg/kaalachakra/contact-Influence-Localisation2.htm

Rgds

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