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	<title>Comments on: Samy hits back at HINDRAF on memorandum</title>
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		<title>By: Amar Soni</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2007/08/17/samy-hits-back-at-hindraf-on-memorandum/comment-page-17/#comment-9430</link>
		<dc:creator>Amar Soni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi iam amar soni from nepal i want to open hindraf in nepal. i want some information about hindraf. so plz mail me 

       amar soni
        nepalgunj
      nepal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi iam amar soni from nepal i want to open hindraf in nepal. i want some information about hindraf. so plz mail me </p>
<p>       amar soni<br />
        nepalgunj<br />
      nepal</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2007/08/17/samy-hits-back-at-hindraf-on-memorandum/comment-page-17/#comment-8580</link>
		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truemalaysianindian

Well said...

I oppose HINDRAF precisely for the same reasons...We live in a mult-racial society and NOT in India. We are the minority and if we feel we are treated unfairly, we need to stand up for our rights but in a manner that is firm but not expouse racism and gangsterism. It would be counter productive. It does matter you oppose BN or PR. Such confrontative approach will be doomed to fail. 

On the whole I don&#039;t think we Indians have done badly, in fact we are much better off than our brothers and sisters in India. There are restrictions and discriminations but these have to be seen in a broader perspective to understand the historical background. Merely using the shortcomings to confront without considering the vastly more benefits we have gain is stupid and counterproductive.

I had said it before and I am saying again...HINDRAF has failed and doomed to fade away....Only a clear-minded and systematic approach will help Indians. Thuggish approach will not work, however much this has the romantic appeal to the Kollywood-influenced Indians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truemalaysianindian</p>
<p>Well said&#8230;</p>
<p>I oppose HINDRAF precisely for the same reasons&#8230;We live in a mult-racial society and NOT in India. We are the minority and if we feel we are treated unfairly, we need to stand up for our rights but in a manner that is firm but not expouse racism and gangsterism. It would be counter productive. It does matter you oppose BN or PR. Such confrontative approach will be doomed to fail. </p>
<p>On the whole I don&#8217;t think we Indians have done badly, in fact we are much better off than our brothers and sisters in India. There are restrictions and discriminations but these have to be seen in a broader perspective to understand the historical background. Merely using the shortcomings to confront without considering the vastly more benefits we have gain is stupid and counterproductive.</p>
<p>I had said it before and I am saying again&#8230;HINDRAF has failed and doomed to fade away&#8230;.Only a clear-minded and systematic approach will help Indians. Thuggish approach will not work, however much this has the romantic appeal to the Kollywood-influenced Indians.</p>
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		<title>By: truemalaysianindian</title>
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		<dc:creator>truemalaysianindian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been much talk of the heroism of the Hindraf 5 and people especially from the indian community pratically worships them as the liberators. But those who have put on the thinking cap, will realise that Hindraf has made a fool of everyone especially the poor. One has only to read the memorandum to the Queen and also the 18 points demand as well as the allegations of genocide and ethnic cleasing to realise how we have been taken for a ride by the H5 supremos.
 
All of my indian friends from childhood days are very much better off from our father&#039;s and grandfather&#039;s time. They have a good jobs and their standard of living have improved from their childhood days. The only ones who are affected were those ignored by the indian community itself. There are the indian in the estates who were exploited by Indians managing the estates. Then there are the poor indians whose families are torn apart by the drunken head of the house and the surrounding which is not conducive.There are many more examples which i can quote that actually brought the downfall of indian community.  
Let us ask ourselves sincerely, is not Hindraf a tinderbox?? Their views are extremely extremist and their actions are very erratic and irresponsible. If the government were to free the H5, then it would be simply granting them victory to do more damages to the country and very particulary to the indian society.
The goverment did the right thing in arresting the H5 and therefore prevented the country from being engulfed in a damaging situation.
 
The DPM has apologised on behalf of the PM to the indian community, Hishamuddin has apologised for waving the keris but when are the leaders of Hindraf going to apologise for tarnishing the image of the country.
 
Why till to-date, there is not even one opposition party leaders who is brave enough to question the Hindraf leaders?
 
What are they fighting for ?? Is their struggle really for the poor poor indians?  How will their 18 points demand improve the lot of poor indians? What is their defintions of poor indians? How are they going to change the mindset of the indians if they keep blaming the govt for the problems faced by indians?
What is their vision and mission?
Have they forgotten that there are many more poor malays than indians as well as poor chinese too in this country??
 
Maybe perhaps if Hindraf is ready to apologise for their actions and ready to work with other parties e.g MIC, PPP, etc etc for the betterment of the indian community, then we can confidently call for their release from the ISA detention.
 
At the end of day, we should see and know the elements that is trying to destroy the peace and unity of this country and pro-actively reject the so-called elements that can destroy 50 years of nation building in a single day.
 
All i ask is that the society be informed of the true nature of Hindraf. Just as we criticise the government for their failings and shortcomings, let us also be fair to all sides and fairly investigate the claims of Hindraf in the so-called documents and memorandum it issued in december 2007. Let us not be freed from the chains of the ruling elitist only to be held hostage by the so-called &quot;struggles&quot; of Hindraf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been much talk of the heroism of the Hindraf 5 and people especially from the indian community pratically worships them as the liberators. But those who have put on the thinking cap, will realise that Hindraf has made a fool of everyone especially the poor. One has only to read the memorandum to the Queen and also the 18 points demand as well as the allegations of genocide and ethnic cleasing to realise how we have been taken for a ride by the H5 supremos.</p>
<p>All of my indian friends from childhood days are very much better off from our father&#8217;s and grandfather&#8217;s time. They have a good jobs and their standard of living have improved from their childhood days. The only ones who are affected were those ignored by the indian community itself. There are the indian in the estates who were exploited by Indians managing the estates. Then there are the poor indians whose families are torn apart by the drunken head of the house and the surrounding which is not conducive.There are many more examples which i can quote that actually brought the downfall of indian community.<br />
Let us ask ourselves sincerely, is not Hindraf a tinderbox?? Their views are extremely extremist and their actions are very erratic and irresponsible. If the government were to free the H5, then it would be simply granting them victory to do more damages to the country and very particulary to the indian society.<br />
The goverment did the right thing in arresting the H5 and therefore prevented the country from being engulfed in a damaging situation.</p>
<p>The DPM has apologised on behalf of the PM to the indian community, Hishamuddin has apologised for waving the keris but when are the leaders of Hindraf going to apologise for tarnishing the image of the country.</p>
<p>Why till to-date, there is not even one opposition party leaders who is brave enough to question the Hindraf leaders?</p>
<p>What are they fighting for ?? Is their struggle really for the poor poor indians?  How will their 18 points demand improve the lot of poor indians? What is their defintions of poor indians? How are they going to change the mindset of the indians if they keep blaming the govt for the problems faced by indians?<br />
What is their vision and mission?<br />
Have they forgotten that there are many more poor malays than indians as well as poor chinese too in this country??</p>
<p>Maybe perhaps if Hindraf is ready to apologise for their actions and ready to work with other parties e.g MIC, PPP, etc etc for the betterment of the indian community, then we can confidently call for their release from the ISA detention.</p>
<p>At the end of day, we should see and know the elements that is trying to destroy the peace and unity of this country and pro-actively reject the so-called elements that can destroy 50 years of nation building in a single day.</p>
<p>All i ask is that the society be informed of the true nature of Hindraf. Just as we criticise the government for their failings and shortcomings, let us also be fair to all sides and fairly investigate the claims of Hindraf in the so-called documents and memorandum it issued in december 2007. Let us not be freed from the chains of the ruling elitist only to be held hostage by the so-called &#8220;struggles&#8221; of Hindraf.</p>
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		<title>By: Oversea Indian</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2007/08/17/samy-hits-back-at-hindraf-on-memorandum/comment-page-17/#comment-8514</link>
		<dc:creator>Oversea Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;MP:&lt;i&gt;i guess &quot;overseas indian&quot; has nothing constructive to say.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Hindraf semua p*****!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>MP:<i>i guess &#8220;overseas indian&#8221; has nothing constructive to say.</i></b></p>
<p>Hindraf semua p*****!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Nuke</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2007/08/17/samy-hits-back-at-hindraf-on-memorandum/comment-page-17/#comment-8258</link>
		<dc:creator>Crazy Nuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killer... died redyyyyyyyyyyy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killer&#8230; died redyyyyyyyyyyy</p>
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		<title>By: INDIAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>INDIAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;NAMASIVAYA WEI VALLGE, NATHAM THAL VALLGE&quot;
say &quot;NO&quot; to samy vellu!!!!

BN still never get the signal from the hindhu&#039;s on last GE ..so let us show again in coming permatang pauh Election...

VALLGE MAKKAL SAKTHI

VALLGE HINDRAF...

&quot;INBAM MEI SULLGE ELLORUM VALLGE&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NAMASIVAYA WEI VALLGE, NATHAM THAL VALLGE&#8221;<br />
say &#8220;NO&#8221; to samy vellu!!!!</p>
<p>BN still never get the signal from the hindhu&#8217;s on last GE ..so let us show again in coming permatang pauh Election&#8230;</p>
<p>VALLGE MAKKAL SAKTHI</p>
<p>VALLGE HINDRAF&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;INBAM MEI SULLGE ELLORUM VALLGE&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: samy</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2007/08/17/samy-hits-back-at-hindraf-on-memorandum/comment-page-17/#comment-7871</link>
		<dc:creator>samy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jangan sokong MIC! Jangan sokong Samy Vellu! Jangan sokong BN! Jangan sokong UMNO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jangan sokong MIC! Jangan sokong Samy Vellu! Jangan sokong BN! Jangan sokong UMNO!</p>
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		<title>By: INDIAN</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2007/08/17/samy-hits-back-at-hindraf-on-memorandum/comment-page-17/#comment-6936</link>
		<dc:creator>INDIAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Tamilan,

TRUE wat u say.......

Dear All Indian&#039;s.

Pls pray for our leader&#039;s who struggle in prison.

wat we need now is again to show our unity...

HINDRAF.MAKKAL SAKTHI


VALGE HINDHU MAKKAL...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tamilan,</p>
<p>TRUE wat u say&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Dear All Indian&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Pls pray for our leader&#8217;s who struggle in prison.</p>
<p>wat we need now is again to show our unity&#8230;</p>
<p>HINDRAF.MAKKAL SAKTHI</p>
<p>VALGE HINDHU MAKKAL&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tamilan</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2007/08/17/samy-hits-back-at-hindraf-on-memorandum/comment-page-17/#comment-6898</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is the killer of very indian.He the one sell our right to other,so dont care of them, pls we care who care for us and our future generation.So wat i would to mention give full support to our Hindraf leader who struggle in prison for us and our indian future.Valghe Makkal Sakti,Valghe Pallandu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is the killer of very indian.He the one sell our right to other,so dont care of them, pls we care who care for us and our future generation.So wat i would to mention give full support to our Hindraf leader who struggle in prison for us and our indian future.Valghe Makkal Sakti,Valghe Pallandu</p>
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		<title>By: Indian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 14:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>helloooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is KILLLER THERE????????????????????


VALGE MAKKAL SAKTHI....


PLEASE,support our next event of blood donation organize by makkal sakthi 

at pandamaran,klang..

ON COMING 8TH JUNE 2008


For more info.pls logon to www.hindraf.org


Really proud to be an indian(HINDHU)   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>helloooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>is KILLLER THERE????????????????????</p>
<p>VALGE MAKKAL SAKTHI&#8230;.</p>
<p>PLEASE,support our next event of blood donation organize by makkal sakthi </p>
<p>at pandamaran,klang..</p>
<p>ON COMING 8TH JUNE 2008</p>
<p>For more info.pls logon to <a href="http://www.hindraf.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.hindraf.org</a></p>
<p>Really proud to be an indian(HINDHU)   <img src='http://poobalan.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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