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	<title>Comments on: HINDRAF unhappy with Pakatan Rakyat in Perak</title>
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		<title>By: Killi Valavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killi Valavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you blind ? I was asking you to prove your statement of : 
"I think VJ, Killi, suraj and others actually PKR supporters who are using MS/HINDRAF to gain the objectives. From their posts it is quite obvious to me now that they are more interested in PKR than helping Indians. That’s why they keep defending PKR/PR." 

1week from y'day . You can run behind a bush if you want .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you blind ? I was asking you to prove your statement of :<br />
&#8220;I think VJ, Killi, suraj and others actually PKR supporters who are using MS/HINDRAF to gain the objectives. From their posts it is quite obvious to me now that they are more interested in PKR than helping Indians. That’s why they keep defending PKR/PR.&#8221; </p>
<p>1week from y&#8217;day . You can run behind a bush if you want .</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killi

There are already proofs right in your face bro, just that you refuse to see or pretend not to. Sivanesan's statement in response to HINDRAF was a proof. And Prof Rama saying he is the rep for all races is another betrayal. During the GE these 2 guys only spoke about MS, HINDRAF and Indian's plight. But how come they have changed their tunes now ? Didn't they were given the chance to contest and also give post because they are Indians ? 

Let's take Prof Rama for example. What have Prof Rama done for Indians in Penang ? Has he initiated anything at all ? He is just a poodle for the Chinese in the DAP. He just wants to keep his position and he will do whatever Lim Guan Eng says.

I have met Prof Rama recently in one of the Penang state govt functions and I can tell you all that no one respects him at all. Not the Chinese nor the Malays. And because he doesn't help Indians, even the Indian community has given up on him.

In that function no one even spoke to Prof Rama and he was left on alone, the only Indian in the VIP table. No one spoke to him or anyone bothered about him even though he was the DCM2. Even junior DAP leaders didn't even acknowledge him though there was much respect for othe DAP guys without exco position.

I remember some guys calling Samy as UMNO's mandor. But even though he was not the DPM, he was a much respected senior minister that everyone respected because of his ability. Even the Malays respected and feared him.

Has Prof Rama done anything positive so far ? ZERO. Did he spoke up when HINDRAF and Indian leaders were deprived posts in the councils ? Was he bold enough in asking for quota for state govt and bodies ? A Big fat NO. Did he promote the demands that HINDRAF presented to the Malaysian and UK PMs ? Another ZERO.
 
I would love to see MS/HINDRAF withdraw support for PR and call upon all Indian MPs and ADUNs to resign. Then we can really see the true colour of these PR's Indian reps. I would love to bet with VJ &#38; Killi at that time on how many will resign.

I will tell you this VJ/Killi....time that HINDRAF withdraw support for PR is not too far off. It is just weeks and months away...certainly before the year end. Even before Deepavalli. All the signs are there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killi</p>
<p>There are already proofs right in your face bro, just that you refuse to see or pretend not to. Sivanesan&#8217;s statement in response to HINDRAF was a proof. And Prof Rama saying he is the rep for all races is another betrayal. During the GE these 2 guys only spoke about MS, HINDRAF and Indian&#8217;s plight. But how come they have changed their tunes now ? Didn&#8217;t they were given the chance to contest and also give post because they are Indians ? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take Prof Rama for example. What have Prof Rama done for Indians in Penang ? Has he initiated anything at all ? He is just a poodle for the Chinese in the DAP. He just wants to keep his position and he will do whatever Lim Guan Eng says.</p>
<p>I have met Prof Rama recently in one of the Penang state govt functions and I can tell you all that no one respects him at all. Not the Chinese nor the Malays. And because he doesn&#8217;t help Indians, even the Indian community has given up on him.</p>
<p>In that function no one even spoke to Prof Rama and he was left on alone, the only Indian in the VIP table. No one spoke to him or anyone bothered about him even though he was the DCM2. Even junior DAP leaders didn&#8217;t even acknowledge him though there was much respect for othe DAP guys without exco position.</p>
<p>I remember some guys calling Samy as UMNO&#8217;s mandor. But even though he was not the DPM, he was a much respected senior minister that everyone respected because of his ability. Even the Malays respected and feared him.</p>
<p>Has Prof Rama done anything positive so far ? ZERO. Did he spoke up when HINDRAF and Indian leaders were deprived posts in the councils ? Was he bold enough in asking for quota for state govt and bodies ? A Big fat NO. Did he promote the demands that HINDRAF presented to the Malaysian and UK PMs ? Another ZERO.</p>
<p>I would love to see MS/HINDRAF withdraw support for PR and call upon all Indian MPs and ADUNs to resign. Then we can really see the true colour of these PR&#8217;s Indian reps. I would love to bet with VJ &amp; Killi at that time on how many will resign.</p>
<p>I will tell you this VJ/Killi&#8230;.time that HINDRAF withdraw support for PR is not too far off. It is just weeks and months away&#8230;certainly before the year end. Even before Deepavalli. All the signs are there.</p>
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		<title>By: VJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>VJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree with Killi V.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree with Killi V.</p>
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		<title>By: Killi Valavan</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2008/07/10/hindraf-unhappy-with-pakatan-rakyat-in-perak/comment-page-1/#comment-7501</link>
		<dc:creator>Killi Valavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just prove it bro! I give you 1week from now . Else make tatoo on your forehead that you are a sore loser ! 1 week from now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just prove it bro! I give you 1week from now . Else make tatoo on your forehead that you are a sore loser ! 1 week from now!</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Killi Valavan reply on July 14, 2008:

the problem is the members are clowns so need outsiders to tell them what to do … aiya simple thing also cant understand ….. wht lah Killer….

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I am sure MIC people think HINDRAF members are hooligans and goodas as well..hahahahhaha...Read today's Nanban bro...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killi Valavan reply on July 14, 2008:</p>
<p>the problem is the members are clowns so need outsiders to tell them what to do … aiya simple thing also cant understand ….. wht lah Killer….</p>
<p>===================================================</p>
<p>I am sure MIC people think HINDRAF members are hooligans and goodas as well..hahahahhaha&#8230;Read today&#8217;s Nanban bro&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2008/07/10/hindraf-unhappy-with-pakatan-rakyat-in-perak/comment-page-1/#comment-7494</link>
		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nanban.com.my/v1/news_common.aspx?id=9139&#38;cid=2

For the reading pleasure of VJ, Killi and the rest.

You know what I think ? I think VJ, Killi, suraj and others actually PKR supporters who are using MS/HINDRAF to gain the objectives. From their posts it is quite obvious to me now that they are more interested in PKR than helping Indians. That's why they keep defending PKR/PR.

I should have realised this before. Rather careless of me.

May be many readers/Indians don't realise that many PKR/DAP leaders and supporters are not interested in Indian's welfare but to gain votes using HINDRAF to get into Parlianment / State Assembly. That's why we see they keep quiet when there are issues facing the Indians in PR ruled states. The ettapan-like behaviour of Sivanesan (as reported in Nanban) is an example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nanban.com.my/v1/news_common.aspx?id=9139&amp;cid=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.nanban.com.my/v1/news_common.aspx?id=9139&amp;cid=2</a></p>
<p>For the reading pleasure of VJ, Killi and the rest.</p>
<p>You know what I think ? I think VJ, Killi, suraj and others actually PKR supporters who are using MS/HINDRAF to gain the objectives. From their posts it is quite obvious to me now that they are more interested in PKR than helping Indians. That&#8217;s why they keep defending PKR/PR.</p>
<p>I should have realised this before. Rather careless of me.</p>
<p>May be many readers/Indians don&#8217;t realise that many PKR/DAP leaders and supporters are not interested in Indian&#8217;s welfare but to gain votes using HINDRAF to get into Parlianment / State Assembly. That&#8217;s why we see they keep quiet when there are issues facing the Indians in PR ruled states. The ettapan-like behaviour of Sivanesan (as reported in Nanban) is an example.</p>
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		<title>By: Killi Valavan</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2008/07/10/hindraf-unhappy-with-pakatan-rakyat-in-perak/comment-page-1/#comment-7484</link>
		<dc:creator>Killi Valavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem is the members are clowns so need outsiders to tell them what to do ... aiya simple thing also cant understand ..... wht lah Killer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem is the members are clowns so need outsiders to tell them what to do &#8230; aiya simple thing also cant understand &#8230;.. wht lah Killer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean they are doing great ? Unless you are reading exclusively the PR websites, you would have noted that the 4 states are in a mess.

Perak govt is NOT Islam based but just the MB is from that Islamic party. Just because he received the memo means nothing. What we want is ACTION. Indians have voted for PR and PR must deliver its promises.

And don't tell we have to wait for 50 years. If you say, PR will be out even before the next GE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean they are doing great ? Unless you are reading exclusively the PR websites, you would have noted that the 4 states are in a mess.</p>
<p>Perak govt is NOT Islam based but just the MB is from that Islamic party. Just because he received the memo means nothing. What we want is ACTION. Indians have voted for PR and PR must deliver its promises.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t tell we have to wait for 50 years. If you say, PR will be out even before the next GE.</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VJ

Whether Samy stays or resign is up to MIC members to decide after the MIC elections. And certainly they don't need PR/HINDARF clowns to tell them that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VJ</p>
<p>Whether Samy stays or resign is up to MIC members to decide after the MIC elections. And certainly they don&#8217;t need PR/HINDARF clowns to tell them that.</p>
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		<title>By: Killer</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/indian/2008/07/10/hindraf-unhappy-with-pakatan-rakyat-in-perak/comment-page-1/#comment-7470</link>
		<dc:creator>Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys

Instead of harping about the past, why don't you answer my questions ?

The fact remains that despite the Indian community throwing their support behind HINDRAF and PR. they have been cheated as what ever promised was not fulfilled.

And I don't buy that idiotic reason that PR is new. I can accept the reason if we talk about long term plans  but this is about something that can be and should be done NOW.

Guys don't think Indians are stupid. Don't tell us PR needs another 5 to 10 years to give Indians more seats in the councils / excos. 

You keep evading my questions on what PR has delivered to Indians from the demands that HINDRAF made in their memo to PM and the British PM. I can see the result is ZERO. In fact the situation of Indians is now worse off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys</p>
<p>Instead of harping about the past, why don&#8217;t you answer my questions ?</p>
<p>The fact remains that despite the Indian community throwing their support behind HINDRAF and PR. they have been cheated as what ever promised was not fulfilled.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t buy that idiotic reason that PR is new. I can accept the reason if we talk about long term plans  but this is about something that can be and should be done NOW.</p>
<p>Guys don&#8217;t think Indians are stupid. Don&#8217;t tell us PR needs another 5 to 10 years to give Indians more seats in the councils / excos. </p>
<p>You keep evading my questions on what PR has delivered to Indians from the demands that HINDRAF made in their memo to PM and the British PM. I can see the result is ZERO. In fact the situation of Indians is now worse off.</p>
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