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	<title>Comments on: Padang Jawa Temple to be rebuilt (again?)</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
	
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		<title>By: New_Indian</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/religion/2008/03/18/padang-jawa-temple-to-be-rebuilt-again/#comment-6381</link>
		<dc:creator>New_Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Brother Madhavan,

The ignorance of Indians is the key for our conditions. If you recollect Gone Vellu and Khir Toyo statement earlier the land and money has been allocated earlier. That means authorisation has been given. If Khir Toyo was MB then under pressure he would have done exactly same.Khalid as the new MB just proceeded with it.  But WHAT else he did. He could asked someone or ADUN to oversee the construction or keep an eye to ensure that temple is built.

Now who said temple construction cost RM40k, Does Khalid or Indians know what u get for this amount. Dont believe me go ask around. Maybe we can get  the basic foundation thats all. Drains renovation in one of the temple in Negri recently cost RM25k. The demolished temple was in pretty good condition, I value at RM300k plus.

Watch my words, If no funding  comes then I am sure it will take many many years before we collect donation through public and kumbabishegam to build a proper temple. If this is the case with most noted one, what's the fate of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Brother Madhavan,</p>
<p>The ignorance of Indians is the key for our conditions. If you recollect Gone Vellu and Khir Toyo statement earlier the land and money has been allocated earlier. That means authorisation has been given. If Khir Toyo was MB then under pressure he would have done exactly same.Khalid as the new MB just proceeded with it.  But WHAT else he did. He could asked someone or ADUN to oversee the construction or keep an eye to ensure that temple is built.</p>
<p>Now who said temple construction cost RM40k, Does Khalid or Indians know what u get for this amount. Dont believe me go ask around. Maybe we can get  the basic foundation thats all. Drains renovation in one of the temple in Negri recently cost RM25k. The demolished temple was in pretty good condition, I value at RM300k plus.</p>
<p>Watch my words, If no funding  comes then I am sure it will take many many years before we collect donation through public and kumbabishegam to build a proper temple. If this is the case with most noted one, what&#8217;s the fate of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Madhavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madhavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUOTE : The developer has been directed by the state government to provide the land and RM40,000, the cost of the building construction. “It is up to the temple committee and the developer to decide when to start the temple construction

Toyo made the promise, Khalid made it happen. i dont see anything wrong in it. it is his responsibility to make it happen. plus he didnt make any claim saying it only happened becoz he became MB.

all he did was to make sure we receive what has been promised to us. 

regarding the lack of fund to rebuild the temple, im sure the new MB wouldnt mind if we collect some fund on our own to build the temple better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUOTE : The developer has been directed by the state government to provide the land and RM40,000, the cost of the building construction. “It is up to the temple committee and the developer to decide when to start the temple construction</p>
<p>Toyo made the promise, Khalid made it happen. i dont see anything wrong in it. it is his responsibility to make it happen. plus he didnt make any claim saying it only happened becoz he became MB.</p>
<p>all he did was to make sure we receive what has been promised to us. </p>
<p>regarding the lack of fund to rebuild the temple, im sure the new MB wouldnt mind if we collect some fund on our own to build the temple better.</p>
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		<title>By: poobalan</title>
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		<dc:creator>poobalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree New_Indian, 

the community needs to be vigilant at all times. the makkal must always keep an eye, as you said.

Granted that the new government will need some time to settle down and formulate new strategies/policies. For that, the people can give them some leeway. However, things like misleading the public should be rebuked. The state secretary/mayor must clarify their statement. Sometimes, this can be even a media mistake - they hear one thing, but write something else. 

Samy Vellu did mention that he will raise some funds. I hope that the 40K is just for the temple, even though it is not enough. A separate amount should be given for the kindergarten.

Let's see if the temple committee can offer any ideas or feedback. I shall ask around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree New_Indian, </p>
<p>the community needs to be vigilant at all times. the makkal must always keep an eye, as you said.</p>
<p>Granted that the new government will need some time to settle down and formulate new strategies/policies. For that, the people can give them some leeway. However, things like misleading the public should be rebuked. The state secretary/mayor must clarify their statement. Sometimes, this can be even a media mistake - they hear one thing, but write something else. </p>
<p>Samy Vellu did mention that he will raise some funds. I hope that the 40K is just for the temple, even though it is not enough. A separate amount should be given for the kindergarten.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if the temple committee can offer any ideas or feedback. I shall ask around.</p>
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		<title>By: New_Indian</title>
		<link>http://poobalan.com/blog/religion/2008/03/18/padang-jawa-temple-to-be-rebuilt-again/#comment-6373</link>
		<dc:creator>New_Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is surely a double dip. I think we Indians need to watch very carefully what Barisan Rakyat does. Selangor MB Khalid has done nothing but take the old promise by Khir Toyo to look as if he has done it. PKR we will be watching you.

Indians need to form a body to watch what the BR governments are doing for Indians. This does not seem to be a good start and Khalid has actually misled and cheated. RM40000, what can you built for this amount. A small decent temple cost RM 400000 - 500000, why the Selangor government didnt give any financial assistance. Are the temple committee members aware and capable enough to manage. So many questions and a lot of work to do. Poobalan we need a way forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is surely a double dip. I think we Indians need to watch very carefully what Barisan Rakyat does. Selangor MB Khalid has done nothing but take the old promise by Khir Toyo to look as if he has done it. PKR we will be watching you.</p>
<p>Indians need to form a body to watch what the BR governments are doing for Indians. This does not seem to be a good start and Khalid has actually misled and cheated. RM40000, what can you built for this amount. A small decent temple cost RM 400000 - 500000, why the Selangor government didnt give any financial assistance. Are the temple committee members aware and capable enough to manage. So many questions and a lot of work to do. Poobalan we need a way forward.</p>
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