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PM advises while toyol…

September 5th, 2009
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Read this advice from PM Najib:

Muslims were reminded to avoid condemning or insulting other religions and the followers with their actions, but instead follow true Islamic teachings by respecting other religions.

Prime Minister Najib Razak said their offending actions could have detrimental effects as those who felt insulted could respond in a worse manner, hence causing racial disunity.

Quoting verse 108 in the Al-An’am chapter of the Quran, he said Muslims were also forbidden from insulting or desecrating anything that the followers of other religions worshipped so that they would in turn show respect for Islam.

He was speaking after breaking fast and performing Maghrib prayer with about 1,000 residents of Mukim Chenor at the Chenor Jamek Mosque in Maran, Pahang today.

Also present were his wife Rosmah Mansor, Pahang Menteri Besar Adnan Yaakob and Chenor assemblyman Mohd Aminuddin Ishak.

Return to real religious struggle

Najib said Prophet Muhammad himself, when setting up the first Islamic state in Medina and drawing up the Constitution of Medina, made Islam the thrust of his administration but allowed the practice of other religions.

“This enabled the people of Medina to live in peace. In our country too, we have big minority groups… God willing, we will remain a peaceful country. If there have been no peace, we would not see rapid development in our country today.”

Najib also called on Muslims to return to the real religious struggle by avoiding jealousy, hatred, backbiting, confrontation and incitement, and to address the ills such as poverty.

“We must correct the negative perception of the West about Islam and Islamic countries by practising true Islamic teachings so that we can be good role models to others,” he said.

Read the verse here.

However, there will be devils in disguise (or even out in the open) who aim to create mischief. One such creature is the toyol. Read about it in Wikipedia.

The protestors found themselves another supporter in the form of ex-Selangor MB, Khir Toyo:

As far as Selangor opposition leader Dr Mohd Khir Toyo is concerned, the controversy surrounding the cow-head protest in Shah Alam last week is just a big misunderstanding over a ’stupid’ animal.

According to the former menteri besar, the protesters had no intentions of belittling the Hindu religion which considers the cow to be sacred.

“The reason (the cow’s head) was brought was to show that the (state government) had acted without thinking as the site (for the Hindu temple) was ready (in Section 18), so why relocate (to Section 23)?

“The state government did not think… the cow’s head was displayed because it is a ’stupid’ animal, to show that the state government made a ’stupid’ decision, and disrupted the peace of Section 23 residents. (It has) nothing to do with religious issues,” he stressed.

“I don’t know who brought it (the cow’s head)… but for me, there is no sensitivity (involved) or link to the animal being holy for the Indians (Hindus),” he added.

Khir was speaking to reporters in Shah Alam. Also present were Section 23 residents action committee deputy chair Ismail Saabri and the neighbourhood’s Umno patrons association chairperson Azmir Md Zain.

Azmir is said to be one who brought the severed cow’s head to the protest.

BTW, the ex-MB of Selangor said that the earlier plan was to relocate the temples and gurdwhara into a complex in Section 18. About RM600,000 was spent on infrastructure, but he claimed the temple committees did not move in after that.

“During my administration, the state government had discussed with people from the temple and other houses of worship and we agreed on the site in Section 18. In fact, the state government offered an alternative site in Section 22,” he told reporters at the site in Section 18 here today.

He said the site in Section 18 was already developed with roads and street lights that cost RM600,000, and seven houses of worship could be built on the 0.92ha land.

“Our initial agreement was to wait until the state government built the infrastructure, but when the infrastructure were completed in 2007, as you can see now, they refused to move to Section 18 or alternatively, to Section 22,” he said.

Dr Mohamad Khir said to accuse the former government of not being sensitive to the need for houses of worship for non-Muslims was incorrect and ill-intentioned.

“In fact, the site in Section 18 is suitable for continuous religious activities as it is not too close to residential areas and is linked to several other Sections (15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 24 and 25, Shah Alam) and Padang Jawa. And it’s only 3km away from Section 23.”

Asked to comment on why the temple people refused to move to Section 18, he said the Pakatan Rakyat could have promised them the site in Section 23 but it had turned out to be an issue.

“It’s not that we didn’t consider Section 23 for the temple site, but the residents objected as it is too close to a residential area. So, we looked for an alternative site,” he said.

According to Malaysiakini’s report on the same matter:

Former Selangor menteri besar Dr Mohd Khir Toyo today said the previous state government led by BN was resolving the temple relocation issue in Shah Alam contrary to allegations that suggested otherwise.

Khir, who is now state opposition leader, said the previous BN administration had initially allocated land in Section 18 for a non-Muslim place of worship and this was ready in 2007, with fully equipped infrastructure worth RM600,000.

Speaking to reporters at the proposed site in Sungai Renggam, Shah Alam, Khir said the seven-lot site was “suitable and it was never BN’s fault as we allocated a strategic place.”

“I think there is no other state (government) in history willing to provide such infrastructure to build a non-Muslim place of worship,” he added.

However, Khir said the BN government had to subsequently propose another site in Section 22 following the objection from the Hindu community to the site allocated in Section 18.

He added that the Section 22 location was also agreed to by the Malay residents of Section 23. However, the infrastructure was not completed in Section 22 as BN lost the state in the last general election.

The Section 18 site is situated beside a Telekom building and a river to separate it from a mosque and another Hindu temple. The site is currently being used by car enthusiasts for motor sport of ‘drifting’.

The current Pakatan Rakyat state government has proposed that the temple be relocated to Section 23, and this led its Muslim residents to stage a protest last Friday.

However, the protest became controversial when a severed cow’s head was paraded. The animal is considered sacred to Hindus.

Back in 2005, the Hindu community had objected to the Section 18 proposal since there were already three temples in the area and wanted the temple to be constructed in a different section to cater for devotees living there.

However, Mohd Khir said this was not a valid reason as there were many places where temples “stand side by side.”

“Along Jalan Puchong for example, they have temples built side by side because we all know that they have different gods,” he added.

The ex-MB’s statements were rebutted by current state government reps:

In an immediate reaction, Shah Alam PAS MP Khalid Abdul Samad said Khir’s previous proposal would have been more ‘insensitive’ towards Muslims in the long run. [how?]

According to him, Khir (when he was the menteri besar) proposed a ‘temple complex’ where seven temples, six Hindu temples and one Sikh temple, would be located in one place.

Khalid also pointed out that Section 18 was also a Malay-majority area. “And the mosque that is located opposite to the site is even closer compared with the distance in Section 23.”

Commenting on the RM600,000 spent on the infrastructure in Section 18 for a non-Muslim place of worship, Khalid described it as a “waste of money.”

Meanwhile, state exco Dr Xavier Jayakumar also criticised Khir over his remarks, claiming that he had never solved the problem.

“If his proposal was such a great idea, why did the people reject it? If it was approved so long ago, why has the temple not moved yet?” he asked.

So, now each trying to blame the other and show that they were doing something to solve the problem. Anyway, I think I know the spot in Section 18. Its not near housing area, but there’s a mosque nearby.

One a side note, I’m interested to read about the research done by Yayasan Dakwah Islamiah Malaysia (Yadim):

An Islamic missionary organization added fuel to the Shah Alam temple row today by concluding that the root cause of the controversy was that there are too many Hindu temples in Malaysia. [can a case study on one location be extrapolated to cover the whole country? Does temple mean shrines as well?]

Yayasan Dakwah Islamiah Malaysia (Yadim) president Datuk Mohd. Nakhaie Ahmad said today that Muslims could accept the right of non-Muslims to build their own houses of worship, but the problem was the proliferation of illegal Hindu temples. [Illegal since when is it because the land title changed hands or development takes place in that area? How many temples were surveyed and their age recorded to justify the legality? How easy is it to legalise a temple?]

He also argued that it was the responsibility of non-Muslims to take care of the sensitivities of Muslims. [He must be joking. Is it stated in the Quran or is he preaching some deviant teaching?]

He said that Yadim had come out with a research case study to back the opposition to the construction of the Sri Mahamariamman temple in the Section 23 neighbourhood of Shah Alam, in an apparent justification of last week’s cow-head protests by a group claiming to be residents there. [It would be great if can publish the case study. I just found some extra details on their website.]

Nakhaie told reporters that the case study had been done to examine the sensitivities of Muslims towards the building of temples/ places of worship of non-Muslims.

“The number of mosques compared to Hindu temples are not at all balanced with the ratio of people who live in a particular area. There are approximately 2600 Hindus living in Sentul and there are also 72 temples there,” he said, citing Yadim’s research of a Kuala Lumpur neighbourhood. Muslims make up the majority of residents in Sentul at around 60 per cent of the population, he said, but there were only 13 mosques in the area. [Perhaps need to mention the background of Sentul. What was it 100 years ago? The temples include shrines as well as Gurdhwaras, according to their website. Why not include suraus in the calculation? What about the temple size and their deities? I think need to refer to their full case study.]

According to him, the Muslim level of tolerance in the country was “quite high”. [I agree.]

“Muslims are fine if temples are built but there has to be some limit. They cannot accept it if temples were to be built in Malay-Muslim majority areas. There will be some level of uneasiness if the temple activities disrupt the harmony of Muslims,” proclaimed the Yadim chief. [Majority area, yeah can accept that. But lets look at Shah Alam. Its practically been invaded by one race due to policies of the state. Where's the non-Muslim area in Shah Alam? Even Sri Muda looks like foreign country. Even Batu Caves has high percentage of Muslims. Can we close down the Batu Caves temple?]

He added that what happened in Section 23 “was expected” because the sensitivities of the Malay-Muslims were not taken into account by the Selangor state government.

He also blamed ‘certain’ parties for politicising the issue, stating that based on statements made by politicians, there was a tendency for the public to blame the residents of Section 23 for being racist. [I think its quite clear people are unhappy with the protestors, not the whole residents]

“Whatever that has happened is simply the reaction of Malays towards the aggressive moves of building an illegal temple in the area.

“They are disappointed with the Selangor state government. The reason this has escalated to such a level is due to the negligence of the state to act swiftly and promptly on the matter,” lamented Nakhaie.

Nakhaie urged local governments to take action on the proliferation of illegal temples, emphasising religion should not be used for political gain by some parties. [Can anyone remember when a new temple was built in Selangor? So far, the government of past and present are focused on relocation and demolishment only]

When asked on what should be done to handle the current crisis in Section 23, he said that tolerance is the answer and that non-Muslims should take care of the sensitivities of Muslims.

“Back in the time of pre-independence, past leaders like Tan Cheng Lock understood their position in this country. Non-Muslims did not arrive on an empty piece of land in Malaysia. Malays and Malay Kings were already here for centuries. [ah..yeah. pre-independence time. Now is 2009.]

“The past leaders understood that in order to be a part of this country, they had to respect the rights and sensitivities of the Malays, and they did just that. Sadly today this agreement is lost,” he said. [from privileges, now becomes rights and sensitivities. When was this inserted in the constitution?]

Nakhaie also lambasted Selangor Pakatan Rakyat (PR) leaders like Shah Alam MP Datuk Khalid Samad as well as state executive councillor Datuk Rodziah Ismail, calling them hypocrites for wanting legal action to be taken against the protestors.

“These people who wanted the ISA abolished suddenly have no qualms in wanting it to be used against Section 23 residents,” said Nakhaie. [yeah, no need ISA lah. Existing laws are adequate]

Its only in Bolehland we can find people like this :-)

I found some more details on the research done by YADIM:

“Contohnya terdapat hanya 13 buah masjid dan 62 surau di mukim Sentul di sini, sedangkan terdapat 532 rumah ibadat lain (20 gereja, 72 kuil Hindu/Gurdwara dan 440 tokong Budha).

“Di seluruh Kuala Lumpur pula terdapat 64 buah gereja, 192 buah kuil Hindu, malah bilangan tokong Budha mencecah 819 buah, dan hanya ada 59 masjid dan 218 surau/madrasah “ katanya semasa sidang media Hasil Kajian “Sensitiviti Masyarakat Islam Terhadap Struktur Rumah Ibadah Agama Bukan Islam” di sini hari ini (4 September).

Just curious, did the study include the suraus in offices, shopping complexes, schools, government departments, business centers, hospitals etc., and also provide details about area size/built-up of the places of worship?

Khir Toyo picked up by police!

February 13th, 2009
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Hmmm..i thought I’d never read this news in papers. But surprise, surprise, police “picked up” Khir Toyo and another fella for questioning (one may suspect that could be for their “own protection” or even some sort of publicity gimmick in view of impending party elections):

Former Selangor menteri besar Dr Mohd Khir Toyo and a local Umno Youth leader were picked up by the police for questioning in an aborted protest march against veteran parliamentarian Karpal Singh in George Town today.
Mohd Khir’s car was stopped at a junction near Waterfall Hotel as he was leaving with his aides and Permatang Pauh Umno Youth chief Mohd Zaidi Said. They were then escorted by a patrol car to the city police headquarters in Jalan Patani for questioning.

Mohd Khir, an Umno Youth national leadership aspirant, and Mohd Zaidi were later released after police recorded their statements.

Sporting a songkok, and wearing a white shirt and black pants, Mohd Khir was earlier about to lead a protest march from Youth Park in Waterfall to Karpal’s house, located about a kilometer away.

umno youth demo against karpal singh penang 130209 04Umno Youth had planned to demonstrate outside Karpal’s house at 3pm over the DAP leader’s intention to file a lawsuit against Perak ruler Sultan Azlan Shah.

However, Mohd Khir and the protesters aborted their plan about 10 minutes before the protest was scheduled to start when the police warned them of stern action.

umno youth demo against karpal singh penang 130209 03The police, including members of the Federal Reserve Unit (FRU), appeared to outnumber the protesters.

Police also stayed guard outside Karpal’s bungalow to thwart any untoward incidents and seized banners with anti-Karpal, anti-Pakatan, pro-Malay and pro-Umno slogans.

Addressing those present with a loud hailer, Mohd Zaidi said: “Even though the police may have stopped us today, our Malay spirit will never die.”

umno youth demo against karpal singh penang 130209 02He also took the police to task for stopping their peaceful demonstration.

The protesters started chanting ‘Hidup Melayu‘ (Long Live Malays) and ‘Daulat Tuanku‘ (Hail The King) when the police moved in to arrest Mohd Zaidi.

At this juncture, the protestors, some of them sporting red headbands with the words ‘Daulat Tuanku‘, managed to rescue Mohd Zaidi and whisked him away to a nearby car.

However, Mohd Zaidi was later picked up together with Mohd Khir.

The crowd dispersed immediately when George Town police district chief ACP Azam Abdul Hamid raised his voice and gave them a five-minute deadline to disperse.

umno youth demo against karpal singh penang 130209 01Azam later told reporters that the gathering was illegal and the police would have arrested the protesters if they had started to march to Karpal’s house.

Earlier, the police stopped and turned back several buses and vans ferrying protesters at several check points from reaching Youth Park.

Knowing our makkal, this drama will be dismissed as another ploy or publicity stunt. Or worse, to justify arrest of some politicians from the other side.

Taman Putra Sepang

December 3rd, 2008
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Taman Putra Sepang is a very small housing area in Puchong, but actually under Sepang district. There  are 120 houses there, mostly occupied, but without CF. Why you ask? Well, its a long story says one of the resident (which I met personally). The land belongs to PKNS, but was developed by a contractor firm. The project was abandoned, and the residents pooled some cash to get another firm to continue the project. Since no CF, there’s no road maintenance, no electricity supply to street lights, no road signage, and no water supply. The residents approached Syabas, but not entertained (yalah, no CF). But after intervention from YB Manikavasagam, Syabas started installing water meters. Around 80 houses were processed, but now it seems Syabas is stalling again – citing lack of road signs etc.

The resident show a copy of a letter announcing RM490,000 grant for infrastructure construction awarded by Khir Toyo way back in 2006. The residents plan to make a report with BPR next week.

MPS doesn’t come and cut grasses or maintain landscape because no CF means no assessment is collected. Residents have to fork out own money to hire contractors to do it.

The MPS knew about this problem for many years, but still no proactive action. The latest info is that something will be worked out.

Note: This taman is near Taman Desa Air Hitam, need to take the road after SJKC Sin Min.

Last Nail In The Coffin With Added Standup Comedian? Part 2

September 15th, 2008
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If Tan Hoon Cheng’s arrest was mind-boggling to say the least, Teresa Kok’s (MP for Seputeh and Selangor state assemblywoman for Kinrara) arrest was equally bemusing (My apologies to all ISA detainees and their family members for using the word “bemusing” which may suggest that the detention is something frivolous). According to the arrest notice:

Selangor executive committee member Teresa Kok was arrested under the Internal Security Act yesterday evening for allegedly causing tension and conflict among races as laid out in the notice issued by the Special Branch police to her next of kin.

The notice stated that Kok, 43, had acted in a way which threatened national security, which warranted arrest under Section 73(1) of the ISA.

It added that the Seputeh member of parliament had become a national threat by being involved in “activities which can cause tension and conflict among races and religion”.

The notice also stated that her digital camera, car keys and house keys were also confiscated in the process.

Political insiders said it was possible her arrest was also related to a report in the Utusan Malaysia newspaper, which alleged she was behind a petition to lower the sound volume for the azan at several mosques.

Kok had denied the allegations and threatened to sue the newspaper and former Selangor Menteri Besar Dr Khir Toyo for making the allegation.

In case you wonder what is Section 73(1) is all about:

Section 73(1) Internal Security Act 1960: “Any police officer may without warrant arrest and detain pending enquiries any person in respect of whom he has reason to believe that there are grounds which would justify his detention under section 8; and that he has acted or is about to act or is likely to act in any manner prejudicial to the security of Malaysia or any part thereof or to maintenance of essential services therein or to the economic life thereof.

And the Section 8 refered above is revealed below:

Section 8 ISA: Power to order detention or restriction of persons. “(i) If the Minister is satisfied that the detention of any person is necessary with a view to preventing him from acting in any manner prejudicial to the security of Malaysia or any part thereof or to the maintenance of essential services therein or the economic life thereof, he may make an order (hereinafter referred to as a detention order) directing that that person be detained for any period not exceeding two years.

Now, what do you, the reader understand from the above?

I’m not a lawyer, nor is my English “very-the-good”, but my understanding is that Section 73(1) is very much related to Section 8. The person detained under Section 73(1) is highly expected to be charged under Section 8 subject to “enquiries”. In other words, If I have strong reasons/belief that you are going to make trouble, and the trouble you make will convince the Home Minister to put you away for 2 years, then I’ll come and arrest you first. Why, because I firmly believe you will be charged under Section 8 later. Now, how can the policeman read the mind of the Minister and think that the Minister will sign detention order for 2 years for the persons the policeman arrest? Unless of course, the policeman had earlier “consulted” the Minister for his views or advice. Or alternatively, we have mind readers.

Now, it would seem right if Teresa threatened national unity. The Home Minister said that she have been warned many times over her actions. I wonder how can someone with the biggest majority in the 2008 general elections be voted in if she was a troublemaker. Even Zaid Ibrahim said he can’t accept ISA being used on Teresa, someone he had known personally. And, its confirmed that he had sent his resignation letter to PM’s office today.

The claim against Teresa was that she is in some way involved in a petition asking the Kinrara mosque to lower the speaker volume during the religious lectures which follow the azan calls. The petition by Bandar Kinrara 5 residents (189 signatures) is available online. Now, the person who made this into an issue is another member of that party. This time its the son’ of immigrants from Indonesia – Khir Toyo. When asked about the issue after Teresa issued a denial and the mosque committee also clarified, he said “wait and see”. Does it mean that he already know something that we the public don’t know? Maybe he can read the mind of the police and Home Minister too.

The problem with Khir’s accusation and the follow-up article by Utusan Malaysia is that the accusations are denied by both Kota Damansara and Bandar Kinrara mosque committees. So, the accused denied it, the alleged victims denied it. There’s no proof provided by anyone. End result – the accusers are still roaming around like stray dogs scavenging for leftovers in garbage bins, while the accused is in custody.

Again, if anyone should be “ISA”ed, its Khir Toyo and the Utusan Malaysia columnist.

Secondly, the issue of signboards in Jawi also caused her to be arrested. According to her father who met Teresa at 2pm today:

“She also said that her charge sheet indicated that her involvement in opposing the use of Jawi for road signs in Kuala Lumpur was also a reason for her arrest,” he told reporters.

He added that according to his daughter, she would be held in custody for another 28 days, based on “something which she had signed”.

So, its 30 days for her, and possible extension after that.

As more BN leaders condemn the arrests, PM Badawi seat is under threat. The Star reported a mild version of the reactions, mainly from MCa folks:

MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting said MCA felt that if the ISA was really necessary, it must only be invoked in the most extreme cases. Otherwise, he said, the Act would be a threat to the rule of law and the fundamental liberties as enshrined in the Constitution. “In fact, even the drafter of the ISA, the late Prof R.H. Hickling, had said the Act was only intended against communist insurgents and those bent on armed struggle. “If at all national security is threatened, there must be strong evidence to show that. Otherwise, such detainees should be charged in an ordinary court of law and there are sufficient laws for this purpose,” he said.

MCA vice-president Datuk Ong Tee Keat said he felt that the Act should be “comprehensively reviewed”. “We need to review this Act comprehensively to see its relevance today,” he said.

Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Datuk Shahrir Samad said it was necessary to retain the Act but it should be used wisely. He said he had never asked for it to be abolished or reviewed as it was still needed here. “It is still necessary but it should be used with care.”

Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Tan Sri Bernard Dompok said the arrests of reporter Tan Hoon Cheng, Seputeh MP Teresa Kok and blogger Raja Petra Kamaruddin had put the Government in a bad light. “For any arrest there must be a reason and it must be clearly explained to the public,” he said.

MCA vice-president Datuk Seri Dr Fong Chan Onn criticised Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar’s explanation on the detention of Tan, who has since been released. He said Syed Hamid’s explanation — that her arrest under the ISA was because her life was under threat — was “totally unacceptable.” “It was a feeble attempt to justify the use of the ISA on Tan. By detaining her under the ISA, police have turned her into a victim of circumstances,” Dr Fong wrote in his blog www.fongchanonn.com.my yesterday.

Health Minister Datuk Liow Tiong Lai called for the ISA to be reviewed so that it would not be abused by any quarters to undermine national unity, security and stability.

Gerakan acting president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon said Gerakan had called for the amendment of the ISA but not its abolition. He said the Act should be used only when dealing with national security and not against journalists carrying out their duties.

Human Resources Minister Datuk Dr S. Subramaniam said the Government should be sensitive to the feelings of the people and not be blind to the fact that a significant proportion of the rakyat abhor the ISA and would prefer it not to be used. “Every time somebody is arrested under the ISA, it gives rise to a perception that the Government is doing it because it is not able to charge and convict the person under existing laws,” he said.

Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim said some aspects of the ISA ought to be subjected to intermittent review but its function to prevent occurrences that divide the community should be respected.

Why is it under threat? Well imagine when the Deputy Prime Minister says that “let the members” decide about the power transition. This change of tone is barely weeks after both of them shook hands and agreed on a power transition plan for UMNO, with Badawi slated to bow out in 2010. Not only Najib, even Education Minister Hishamuddin echoed the same. Muhyiddin Yassin said the members complained to him and he felt that its his responsibility to voice it out. What does PM do? Tells everyone to shut up and don’t question something which have been agreed upon.

I think bookies are starting to take bets on when the new PM (whoever it may be) will be announced. Anyone placed any bets? (disclaimer: betting is illegal in Malaysia unless through licenses gaming companies).

Stop it says PM

April 30th, 2008
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The little tit-for-tat between Toyo and Samy on the Padang Jawa temple demolition is giving another headache for PM. As expected, he steps in as referee and orders the game to end (sorry, still enjoying Man Utd’s victory over Barca).

Whether his words still got any respect…we shall see soon… » Read more: Stop it says PM