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Jan 25 2008

100000 at Port Klang Thaipusam



This is the that I went in the morning of day. It was less crowded until 9am, but the crowd increased after 10am, according to my friend who was there the whole time, at HSS’s annathanam booth.

Big turnout of devotees

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KUALA LUMPUR: The Sri Bala Subramaniar Swamy in Port Klang saw the largest-ever crowd in its 160-year history with thousands of people gathering to observe .

An estimated 100,000 people converged at the over the past two days. Twenty thousand devotees, including those carrying paal kudam (milk pot) and kavadi, were at the on Tuesday night.

Sea of devotees: The crowd at the Sri Bala Subramaniar Swamy in Port Klang during on Wednesday.

A large crowd again turned up yesterday morning to offer prayers. chairman R.S. Maniam said the in Jalan Limbongan usually received just 1,000 paal kudam bearers making their 3km journey from the Harikrishna Alayar in Jalan Tengku Badar.

“This has never happened before but we are happy to see such a large congregation and we are discussing ways to make it more festive if the trend continues next year,” he said when met at the yesterday.

At Batu Tiga, Selangor, the Murugan also saw an unexpectedly larger crowd yesterday. According to committee member Indra Veerapan, the crowd was double that of the previous year.

“Last year we had about 1,500 people while this year, more than 5,000 showed up,” she said.

The large number of people at these temples did not cause a fall in the numbers at , according to MIC president Datuk Seri S. .

Speaking to the press at , he said the numbers there were the same as in previous years.

He said more than a million people turned up yesterday but they came at different times. About 950,000 turned up the night before.

Devotees who went to yearly said the crowd this year was smaller than in previous years. They said people were streaming freely through the gates of the when in the past, they virtually could not move because of the crowd. Traders also said there was less business this year.

Malaysian Hindu Sangam president Datuk A. Vaithylingam said he received word from members that the turnout was lower this year.

“Although I did not go, I received a lot of calls from members of the sangam and people who went to and they said the turnout was smaller,” he said.

In Penang, George Town OCPD Asst Comm Azam Abd Hamid said the crowd over the last two days were more or less the same as last year’s.

“More than 80,000 devotees are in Penang. The morning and afternoon crowd were about the same as those in previous years,” he said.

It was earlier reported that more devotees were expected to converge on the island from Tuesday because of the call to the celebrations at .

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Jan 14 2008

Interview with MHS President



However, we disagree that there are too many temples/shrines in the country.

- anyone keeps a record? MIC, , or state govt/municipal councils?

 I would like to state categorically that Hindus should not build a or shrine at their home or compound.

- hmm…wonder how many people will agree with him on this.

Except for the recently established Malaysia Hindu Council, the rest are affiliated to us. There is no problem in their numbers as long as we take a common stand and champion the same cause. Malaysia Hindu Sangham is in the forefront when comes to matters relating to Hinduism, much to the fact that it is the earliest Hindu organization established in the country, that is in 1965,and is well represented throughout the nation.

- so, if anyone to be blamed, it is and its affiliates?

Practicing Hinduism, or any other faith for that matter, is no problem in Malaysia. …We must appreciate the fact that the Malays (Muslims) being the majority have accommodated us in many ways. … is of the opinion that this should not be happening in a society that boasts for liberal attitude in religiosity and blames the lack for inter-faith dialogue for this poor state of affairs.

- meaning need to establish Inter-Faith committee/panel etc? I thought PM clearly said no need to have such things.

…Beforehand, one must understand how these temples ended up in such predicament. This is very much an inherited problem from the colonial past when the Indians were brought here by the British to work in plantations and build railway lines. These people built temples … that exist till today in the plantations that they toiled and along the railway lines that they built.
However, it is most unfortunate that the British failed to alienate or gazette the land occupied by these temples. It is also most unfortunate the fate of the places of worship was not taken into consideration during the bargaining process for independence. Today when estates make way for progress and railway lines are expanded, everyone blames the temples for standing on the way. Another thing to be noted is that while the British gave the Indians in Malaya a free hand to build temples wherever they wanted, they imposed strict prerequisites in Singapore from the onset. Thus, the temples in Singapore are free from problems like what we are facing today.

- blame it on the British. So, can we sue them ala Hindraf? Then, blame it on independence negotiators. Now blame development.

In fact had launched the 2004-2008 Hindu Renaissance Action Plan to get the temples involved in their community. Under this plan we have established 22 pre-schools in temples and are encouraging them to improve and modernize their administration. We also want to see temples being accountable and the public has the right to know how their donations are being spent. Temples should not exist in isolation, they should be seen as part of the institutions of a society. Thank you Datuk.

- perhaps can provide details of the progress of the plan so far. I’ve heard of such kindergarten classes in temples. How about other measures in the plan?

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THERE IS LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL     

KUALA LUMPUR, 12 January (Bernama) - What is the future of Hindus in the country and their temples? Is freedom to practice one’s faith is very much alive? Is there a solution to the host of woes faced by Hindu temples? These are the questions that linger in the mind of an average Hindu in the country today.

Bernama’s writer Ravichandran D.J Paul speaks to Malaysia Hindu Sangam’s ()President and the man who has been at the forefront in advocating Hinduism affairs in the country for the last 50 years, Datuk A..

Q: Datuk, your hopes for the Malaysian Hindus in 2008.
A: Hindus in Malaysia welcomed 2008 after an unprecedented emotional upheaval. The demolition of a in Kampung Jawa served as a wakeup call for Hindus in particular and Indians in general over their rights and position in a plural society. The incident also, inadvertently, diverted them to the problems plaguing the community. I see the year 2008 being pivotal for the Hindus in determining the way forward not only in their faith but in their socio-economic standing as well.

Q: Datuk, is there any statistics on the number of Hindu adherents in the country and the number of temples and shrines? Do we have too many temples/shrines?
A: Our estimate points that there are about 1.5 million Hindus in Malaysia but we are not sure on the number of temples and shrines, and I would not give any figures to add to the current ambiguity on their numbers. However, we disagree that there are too many temples/shrines in the country.

Q: But Datuk, there are some who even build temples/shrines right at their home and are they accounted for?
A: I would like to state categorically that Hindus should not build a or shrine at their home or compound. It is only proper to have a prayer room or an altar at home to be strictly used by the family members only and not outsiders. If they are keen to invite outsiders to pray along, then it’s only proper that they organize a special prayer (oobayam) at a .

Q: Though Hindus are a minority why do we have so many organizations representing the religion - , Malaysia Hindu Dharma Mamandram, Malaysia Hindu Council and Malaysia Hindu Youth Council. Does this reflect the lack of unity among Hindus? Anyway who do the Hindus consider the formidable front when comes to advocating Hinduism in the country?
A: Except for the recently established Malaysia Hindu Council, the rest are affiliated to us. There is no problem in their numbers as long as we take a common stand and champion the same cause. Malaysia Hindu Sangham is in the forefront when comes to matters relating to Hinduism, much to the fact that it is the earliest Hindu organization established in the country, that is in 1965,and is well represented throughout the nation.

Q: Looking at the case of R.Subashini over the divorce and her rights over her children when her husband converted to Islam, the tussle over the body of Everest team member Maniam Moorthy (Mohammad Abdullah), the demolition of non-Muslim worship places to make way for development and the other legal conflicts between Muslims and non-Muslims that we have seen over the years, do you feel non-Muslims are still free to practice their faith in this country?
A: Practicing Hinduism, or any other faith for that matter, is no problem in Malaysia. I don’t see it being a problem now and also in the future. Despite the differences in our belief system, Malaysians remain tolerant to one another and respect each other’s faith. Remember, each year we celebrate our religious festivals freely and major celebrations are accorded public holidays. And getting a permit for religious procession or congregation is no problem as long as they stick to the guidelines. We must appreciate the fact that the Malays (Muslims) being the majority have accommodated us in many ways. Nonetheless problems do crop up from time to time testing the tolerance limit of the freedom of religion enshrined in the constitution. is of the opinion that this should not be happening in a society that boasts for liberal attitude in religiosity and blames the lack for inter-faith dialogue for this poor state of affairs.

Q: It is obvious that there are many temples/shrines all over the nation built on someone’s land and when they are demolished controversies are bound to arise like what happened in Kampung Jawa.
A: I beg to differ on this point. Beforehand, one must understand how these temples ended up in such predicament. This is very much an inherited problem from the colonial past when the Indians were brought here by the British to work in plantations and build railway lines. These people built temples (especially Maha Mariamman, Kaliamman and Muneswarar temples) that exist till today in the plantations that they toiled and along the railway lines that they built.
However, it is most unfortunate that the British failed to alienate or gazette the land occupied by these temples. It is also most unfortunate the fate of the places of worship was not taken into consideration during the bargaining process for independence. Today when estates make way for progress and railway lines are expanded, everyone blames the temples for standing on the way. Another thing to be noted is that while the British gave the Indians in Malaya a free hand to build temples wherever they wanted, they imposed strict prerequisites in Singapore from the onset. Thus, the temples in Singapore are free from problems like what we are facing today.

Q: Datuk, is there a solution to this problem?
A: I personally feel that the best solution would be to gazette the land occupied by the worship places and this must be done fast. This problem is prevalent in Selangor and Kuala Lumpur much to the rapid development. It seems that nowadays the authorities are doing all for the satisfaction of the developers and not the people. Places of worship demolished and dwellers resettled in low cost flats that I could only best describe as no more than pigeon-holes all in the name of development. The emphasis is on physical and not spiritual development and this is probably why our society today is plagued by social woes. I personally believe demolishing places of worship should be avoided altogether or an amicable solution sought through dialogues with all parties concerned. A good example will be the Federal Territory, after the incident where three temples/shrines were demolished on the same day about two years ago, and the following outcry, a special committee was established involving representatives of , MIC, MCA, Taoism Federation, Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur and other relevant departments. Since then the fate of 65 temples, including about 20 Taoists temples, that were on the demolition list to make way for the KL- double tracking and other development projects were settled in an amicable manner. That is why compared with Selangor, we don’t see much problems relating to temples in Kuala Lumpur.

Q: Lastly Datuk, temples in this country seem to solely serve as a prayer avenue but what is their contribution to the society?
A: In fact had launched the 2004-2008 Hindu Renaissance Action Plan to get the temples involved in their community. Under this plan we have established 22 pre-schools in temples and are encouraging them to improve and modernize their administration. We also want to see temples being accountable and the public has the right to know how their donations are being spent. Temples should not exist in isolation, they should be seen as part of the institutions of a society. Thank you Datuk.

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Jan 11 2008

MHS to help temples with permit problem



Minister Radzi says no such thing, but his secretary say there is shorter renewal period as claimed by .

He also denied an allegation by the Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism that the Immigation Department had given renewal permits of six months to priests, three months to musicians and a week to sculptors.

http://www.hindusangam.org.my/news/index.php?id=72

9TH January 2008
PRESS RELEASE

Temples Visa Issues – Hindu Sangam Acts
The President of Malaysia Hindu Sangam, Datuk A. met senior officials of Ministry of Home Affairs and discussed the issue of being given to Hindu workers by having their visas renewed to a shorter period than the normal schedule. During the discussion with a senior official of the Ministry En. Mat Sor Udin, Senior Secretary of the Minister, he explained that all those who had their renewal for a shorter period as mentioned above can appeal to the Minister of Home Affairs for reconsideration.

In view of this Malaysia Hindu Sangam () calls upon all the leaders of temples affected by this exercise to make their appeals and immediately contact the for its recommendation. It has been confirmed that the will be the only coordinating body for Hindus in Malaysia to submit their recommendations to be forwarded to the Ministry of Home Affairs as has been the practice all the time.

The calls upon the Hindu community to remain calm over this issue because the Ministry officials have shown their concern to solve this issue in a satisfactory manner. We must also appreciate the necessity for the Ministry to go through their own process for proper investigation before making their decision.

Those temples which have only obtained 7 days extension of their renewal for their sculptors should immediately appeal and get the recommendation letter from tomorrow at Malaysia Hindu Sangam Head Quarters, No.67, Jalan PJS 1/48, Taman Petaling Utama 7, 46150 Petaling Jaya between 10.00 AM – 6.00 PM. The representatives must bring all their relevant documents when they come to our office. For more information please contact Datuk A. (012-297 0765), Mr. R. Thiagaraja (012-692 5036), Mr. V.Govindarajah (013-323 2167) or Ms. Saraswathy (Office Numbers: 03-7784 4668/4669/4244).

Thank you,

Yours in service,

Datuk A.
President
Malaysia Hindu Sangam

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