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DAP and PAS at it again

August 23rd, 2010
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Its quite evident that the two parties won’t be able to find a common ground, that’s why the contentious issues on religion has not been properly articulated earlier. This will be one of the factors that will lead to downfall of the Pakatan coalition. It just doesn’t jive to imagine DAP and PAS sharing a common consensus on the state of our state.

So, its not surprising to read again about DAP “distancing” itself or PAS saying “DAP are not clear yet” or “just view of individual”. Its quite clear to me (and probably to others as well). From early of last year (read it here and here) till end of last year (read it here), the hudud and Islamic state has been simmering. And it won’t be the last we hear of this issue.

The DAP today distanced itself from renewed talk of hudud law and the implementation of an Islamic state, saying that these were not Pakatan Rakyat (PR) policies.

DAP advisor Lim Kit Siang maintained that DAP’s stand on Malaysia as a secular state has always been “constant and consistent.”

“Hudud laws and [an] Islamic state are not Pakatan Rakyat policies. This is why there is no mention of these issues in the Pakatan Rakyat common platform unveiled at the Pakatan Rakyat convention in Shah Alam on December 19 last year,” said Lim in a statement today.

Under the PR Common Policy Framework (CPC) last year, PR had made a pledge to “defend the Federal Constitution, Islam as the religion of the Federation while other religions can be practiced peacefully anywhere in the country…”

Reiterating that the two matters were not part of the PR framework, Lim said “any policy change would need the agreement of all three component parties and there is no such consensus in Pakatan Rakyat on hudud laws and Islamic state.”

The Ipoh Timur MP then pointed out that the idea of an Islamic state was supported and advocated by the three most recent prime ministers — Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamed, Tun Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and Datuk Seri Najib Razak.

Lim claimed that this contradicted the positions of the first three prime ministers — Tunku Abdul Rahman, Tun Abdul Razak and Tun Hussein Onn — who considered Malaysia a secular nation and not an Islamic state.

“It is the leaderships of the  MCA, Gerakan, MIC, SUPP and the other Barisan Nasional (BN) component parties who were ever-ready to give unquestioned support to the declarations by the last three prime ministers, beginning with Mahathir’s ‘929 Declaration’ that Malaysia is an Islamic state on September 29, 2001, who should be repudiating their past positions instead of trying to pull the wool over the people’s eyes,” added Lim.

Renewed talks regarding the implementation of hudud laws and an Islamic state started when DAP national chairman Karpal Singh stated that he was firmly opposed to such laws being implemented should PR take over the federal government.

Karpal had argued that such laws were “unconstitutional” and that everyone had to respect the constitution.

PAS spiritual advisor Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat claimed that Karpal was the only DAP leader raising the issue, adding that other leaders were silent on the matter.

Nik Aziz said that Karpal’s views did not represent the views of DAP.

In the 1999 general election, the DAP together with PAS and PKR formed the Barisan Alternatif coalition, which collapsed after two years when DAP quit due to PAS’ objective of forming an Islamic state.

The unprecedented co-operation between DAP and PAS then resulted in the defeat of DAP’s strongmen Lim Kit Siang and Karpal Singh in Penang due to non-Muslim voters’ fear of the Islamic party.

PAS cannot compromise on its position

December 16th, 2009
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I really can’t see how DAP and PAS can work together. Its still OK now since they are not the ruling coalition. But for how long this will remain status quo? If one cannot compromise, then its left to the other. Would DAP drop its Malaysia for Malaysian idea? Would it accept a middle path of one country two laws?

I don’t like the idea of an Islamic state. Its a bad, bad, idea to run a country according to a specific religion especially when the population is nearly equally divided. It may have been practical 1500 years ago, but not now. The leaders now are not as good as those in the history books. This would only lead to disaster as rights can be usurped, laws can be misinterpreted, rules dictated according to one faction.

Today the Tok Guru is around, so things can still be talked and negotiated. What if later some Taliban-style leaders lead the party? We can easily end up like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, or other Islamic countries that have loads internal problems.

PAS is immovable on its stance, same as DAP on its stance. Both opposite sides of the pole. This is a dead end.


Within Pakatan Rakyat, there is frequent objection to issues like hudud law or the Islamic state. How far is PAS willing to compromise? For example, DAP usually has a different opinion on these issues.

No man can have it easy all the time. Some times we fall ill. Even doctors fall ill. God has created the world this way – there are angels and demons, good and bad, heaven and earth. As Muslims, we live by the teachings of the Prophet. When someone is lazy, we preach about diligence. They then become hard-working. Cowards are told tales of bravery. They become brave. The wayward are taught about the pious (and) become religious.

There is no need (to quarrel). Say what you want, but listen to our reply. Don’t make accusations and (then) when I reply, you don’t listen. Tak boleh! (This won’t do). Islam means you should ask questions. If you don’t understand (our policies), ask.

So you mean that PAS cannot compromise on its position on hudud law and the Islamic state?

How can we compromise? This is our ibadat (religious obligation). If we reject the meaning of Islam, we are rejecting our ibadat. God created man to follow ibadat, which is not restricted to just praying.

So how will PAS go about this? Some younger people in DAP can accept PAS, but veterans like national chairperson Karpal Singh, are more adamant about the party’s secular position.

Tidak apa (It is no big deal). Karpal Singh is someone very senior. Sometimes, when people kacau (agitate) us, we have to look at them first. Sometimes, we look at them at say, ‘Let him be. He is old. Let’s respect him’.

People who speak like Karpal Singh are getting fewer. He is a watak lama (old player).

So Tok Guru, you are willing to talk…

Yes. We can discuss. I like it very much when people ask me questions. If I can answer, I will. If the topic is beyond me, I will ask the person to ask someone else.


Kedah DAP to pull out from state government

July 2nd, 2009
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This may be signs of things to come. In Penang, its PKR. In Selangor, its PAS. In Perak, its all three of them.

In Kedah, the DAP has one representative in the state assembly. The state DAP has decided to pull out, subject to HQ feedback. Reason given – “undelivered promises” by the Kedah government, and not giving equal treatment to all Kedahans.

State DAP chairman Thomas Su Keong Siong, said the decision to demolish the 30-year-old abattoir was the last straw.

“We are pulling out of the state government as we find we can no longer work with other PR assemblymen,” he told reporters here two hours after the abattoir, located near a densely-populated rsidential area, was demolished by Alor Star city council workers.

The demolition, which started about 3pm, proceeded smoothly for about two hours despite the presence of a small group of DAP members, including Su, who held placards protesting the move.

Su, who is also state assemblyman for Pasir Pinji in Perak, said the state government had failed to handle the issue properly.

He said he had met state Housing and Local Government Committee chairman Datuk Phahrolrazi Zawawi on Tuesday to ask if the state executive council had agreed to the state DAP’s request to delay the demolition.

“He told me he would raise the matter with Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Azizan Abdul Razak. Today, I received an SMS from the state executive councillor (Phahrolrazi) that the matter had not been discussed at the weekly state executive council meeting today,” he said.

Su, who was careful not to mention Azizan’s name throughout the press conference, said he had also learnt that the city council was planning to demolish a multi-purpose hall at a Hindu temple in Jalan Pegawai and a Chinese temple in Jalan Tanjung Bendahara here.

He said other issues that substantiated the DAP’s claims about the state Pas included the state government’s policy of a 50 per cent housing quota for Bumiputeras and the delay in approving a building plan submitted by the Kedah Buddhist Association.

The problem came to a boil after an illegal pig abattoir was demolished by Alor Setar City Council two days ago. The demolition of the slaughterhouse was another reason which had prompted the state DAP to quit the pact.

“Although the slaughterhouse was operating on land belonging to the Alor Setar City Council, the state government has the power to postpone the demolition. This will give more time for the Kedah Pig Traders and Slaughterer Association which operates the slaughterhouse to find a new site,” he said.

Mayor Datuk Khazali Din was quoted as saying recently that the abattoir had been erected illegally on the site for the past 30 years.

The council had ordered the association to vacate the place several times since 1995 with the latest in May this year.

Kedah MB says its DAP’s fault because didn’t do anything to solve the problem in the last one month (Kedah DAP had failed to deliver on an alternative site for the facility after asking for a month’s grace) , while Kedah PKR admits that its shoulders part of the blame for not acting fast to solve the problem. However, PKR supports the demolishment.

Indians target Bukit Selambau seat

February 11th, 2009
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Ex-assemblyman Arumugam stood and won as independent candidate, and later joined PKR. Thus, it was logical for PKR to hint that they will put up a candidate in the coming by-election in Bukit Selambau.

Immediately after that, PKR member Kalaivanar (age 45) who contested and lost in Gurun state seat during last general elections voiced his intentions. He claimed that his candidature interest was moved by strong grassroot support shown to him by PKR members in Kedah, especially the party’s Indian leaders and members. The Jerai PKR division head says:

“The party must field a grassroots leader who can deliver and remain loyal to PKR. I believe I fit the bill,”

The guy was also upset that he was not given senator post by PKR.

“It was an Indian quota senatorship and I should have been given a chance to serve in the capacity after losing in Gurun.

“Until today, no Indian from Kedah has been appointed to a position,” lamented the Ipoh-born social activist, who recently launched nationwide anti-samsu, anti-gangsterism and community integration campaigns.

Kalaivanar seems to be going all out to be nominated as a candidate:

… Kalaivanar is determined to wrest the seat and has already sent his agents to meet PKR supremo Anwar Ibrahim to lobby for him.

“My supporters have lobbied for me with PKR leadership on the grounds that I am a loyal PKR grassroots leader,” he said.

However, if he was not selected, Kalaivanar feels a grassroots leader who would be a dedicated field worker and not a party hopper, should be chosen.

“Under the current political climate and after what had happened in Perak, these are the main criteria to choose a candidate,” he said.

HINDRAF, it seems, are not keen on Kalaivanar. It is learnt that Hindraf self-exiled chairperson P Waythamoorthy and local Hindraf leaders have spoken to PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim to field Hindraf national coordinator RS Thanenthiran, 45, on a PKR ticket.

Penang Hindraf deputy coordinator Sanjeeviramah Subramaniam confirmed that the movement is keen for Thanenthiran, a former teacher, to contest.

Sanjeeviramah said Hindraf should be rewarded for its aggressive campaign on behalf of Pakatan’s election campaign last year.

Thanenthiran, he said, has a sincere and honest desire to serve the people, will remain loyal to the cause and can be accepted by all communities and parties.

Since Anwar has said that PKR will field an Indian candidate, Thanenthiran would be an ideal choice, more so with the whole Hindraf machinery in Kedah to ensure his victory.

“A representation of Hindraf would be a genuine representation for the Indian Malaysian community,” said Saneeviramah.

Hindraf has originally decided that it did not want to be involved in active politics. However since the movement was outlawed last October, it leaders have changed their mind.

I think HINDRAF should not put up its people to be candidates any more. To remain as a pressure group or civil rights group, it should not be seen as aligned to any political camps. Now, HINDRAF is against UMNO. What if later, PKR turns into an “UMNO”? HINDRAF will be forced to go against PKR. At that point, people like Gobalakrishnan, Mike Manikavasagam and Thanenthiran must resign from post and party. Would they do that?

Not enough with two potential candidates? Well DAP and PAS also have their eyes on the seat!

Kedah DAP organising secretary Teoh Teik Guan confirmed speculation that the party is interested in contesting the seat as it had fielded candidates there prior to the arrangement last year with Pakatan.

“It was DAP’s seat before 2008. So we desire to re-contest the seat,” he told Malaysiakini, saying the Kedah DAP will hold a meeting later to decide on this.

The state DAP leadership, he said, has already conveyed its intention to identify a “credible candidate” but will leave it to party leaders to make a final decision in discussion with their counterparts in Pakatan.

Among the potential candidates is DAP life-member S Neelamekan, 49, who was born in Penang.

Now the Lunas branch chief, he had contested and lost the Prai state seat in Penang against Barisan Nasional (BN) incumbent Dr K Rajapathy in 1999. In 2000, he was among those considered for the Lunas by-election under the DAP ticket.

As for PAS:

PAS, it is learnt, is also keen to contest the seat by fielding a candidate of Indian origin – lawyer Jegadeeson Thavasu who is based in Sungei Petani.

A member of the PAS non-Muslim club in Kedah, he had actively campaigned for the party and Pakatan candidates in the last general election.

He is seen by local PAS leaders as a candidate who will be able to get the support of all ethnic groups.

This will be the second Indian fielded by PAS, after Kumutha in Tiram state seat.

Kalaivanar, Thanenthiran, Neelamekan or Jegadeeson?

Rihanna under ISA

January 22nd, 2009
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Looking at the threat Rihanna poses, why not we allow her into the country, and then put her in ISA to be counseled and reformed? Can we use ISA on foreigners? 🙂 (It’s a joke in case some people don’t get it)

Let’s look at the reasons given by PAS FT Youth:

1. the concert “does not match with the local culture”

2. having Rihanna in Malaysia is a “disgrace to Asian culture”

3. Israel’s ally, the United States, is funded by its public and this includes Rihanna who is currently living in California. It can be considered as supporting Israel’s military offensive in the Gaza.

4. “It doesn’t matter if Rihanna is involved in the issue, but to us (PAS), she is an agent of polluting young peoples’ minds around the world through her songs.”

5. campaign of boycotting US products including their artistes must go on.

6. PAS youth wing will consistently protest against concerts that does not portray the positive Asian culture and which might create social problems in the country.

And more in Star:

7. inviting the Barbados-born singing sensation to Malaysia was “akin to insulting eastern culture, belittling local artistes”…

8. the Grammy award winner to be unsuitable because she often performed suggestively and wore skimpy, sexy outfits.

9. local concert sponsor Celcom should give priority to eastern cultures and local artistes.

10 .Rihanna’s appearance here would result in an outflow of local currency to the United States, and in turn, cause loss to the country and suffering to the Palestinians.

I believe there are more Malaysians who are a disgrace to Asian culture if we judge by their dressing. One can just flip through magazines like Tattler. Or just spend some time in happening places like Bukit Bintang, Hartamas or the various hangouts at hotels. If its too difficult to do, just visit any of the shopping complexes and observe the dressing and behavior of both Malaysians and foreigners. PAS will have a field day sending protest letters to every ministry in town!

This “boycott USA” thing is getting out of hand with selection persecution implemented. Why not we ban all workers, students and tourists from USA? By extension, why not ban all foreigners whose countries deal with the USA since these countries indirectly contribute to the coffers of USA? Why not we ban exports to USA and countries that trade with USA?

And really, why are we getting paranoid with Palestine when our own backyard is stinking so much? Yeah, those people are suffering and we share their sorrow. We donate money and we sympathise with them.

I don’t agree with PAS confusing their Middle East religion with “Asian culture”. They have no right to represent Asians like myself who do not profess their religion. In fact, they can’t represent about 40% of Malaysians and loads of foreigners who are working here. PAS is intruding dangerously into the private lives and freedom of people who are not connected in anyway with its ideology or religion.  Instead of butting its nose every where, just focus and counseling or educating the followers of your religion. That is the correct way, in my opinion.

Looks like PAS is becoming number one enemy of Rihanna fans throughout the world.

BTW, I have not heard any of this singer’s songs nor am I promoting her concert, but I find  it hard to accept PAS’ logic.