Olai Chudi report in NST

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SUGANTHI SUPARMANIAM

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Vatta Ezhuthu can tell one's past, present and future.
Vatta Ezhuthu can tell one’s past, present and future.

It is an ancient system of prediction, written on palmyra leaves. Previously known only to a select group of people, the naadi astrology of India is growing in popularity. It has even been featured in documentaries, including on Discovery Channel. SUGANTHI SUPARMANIAM turns over the leaves

T. Ramesh (left) reading a script for Shanmugam. On Shanmugam's right is his daughter Praba.
T. Ramesh (left) reading a script for Shanmugam. On Shanmugam’s right is his daughter Praba.

Sivapalan Govindasamy says the readings are accurate but cautions against wrong interpretations by astrologers
Sivapalan Govindasamy says the readings are accurate but cautions against wrong interpretations by astrologers

KUALA LUMPUR: A. Shanmugam sat transfixed. The naadi astrologer had just read out his name and those of his parents and siblings.

"I was astonished. Reading the naadi olai (dried palmyra leaves), he could even tell that my mother had two names," said the technician.

Recalling the first time he had gone to see a naadi astrologer in 2002, Shanmugam said the astrologer took his thumbprint and checked it against several bundles of olai.

"I was told to say only yes or no as he read from the olai. He asked if my name started with ‘Pa’ or ‘Re’ or ‘Mu’. When he said ‘Sha’, I said yes. He asked if my name was Shanmugam.
"He then asked if my parents were named so and so and if I had this number of siblings and if I worked as a technician.

"However, when he came to the name of my wife, he said it was Manogari. My wife’s name is Maheshwari. He then said this was not my olai and asked me to come again in two weeks.

"This time, all the information about me fell into place. But I am amazed that such information about me could be contained in the olai said to have been written by sages ages ago.

"I am also amazed that there could be another man with my name and whose parents and siblings have similar names but who has a wife called Manogari.

"Since then I have seen the naadi astrologer 17 times. I find there is truth in what is said in the olai, at least for me," he added.

Shanmugam is just one of the many people who are consulting naadi astrologers to find out their past, present and future.

After being told by a Chinese friend about the naadi astrologers, Chiew Chee Hoong, 50, from Subang Jaya went to find out.

"My friend told me the readings were accurate. I went to the astrologer, gave him my thumb- print and within minutes he found a script and read out my name," he said.

He added that he was happy with the reading and described it as accurate.

He said he would be performing a special prayer as instructed in the olai.

Businessman Tan Chee Meng, 45, from Rawang said he felt something was missing in his life and decided to consult a naadi astrologer.

"I was shocked with what the astrologer told me. The accuracy of it was scary, he even came up with my ex-wife’s name," he said, adding that the results were immediate as after performing a prayer suggested by the astrologer, business picked up.

The naadi astrologer can tell why someone is leading a happy life or a miserable life. Or what life holds for the future.

Also, he can offer remedial advice.

This ancient Indian art of prediction is said to have been written by sages, called siddhars, thousands of years ago. The predictions were written on olai in Vattu Ezhuthu, a Tamil script, using a sharp, nail-like instrument called ezhuthani.

It can only be deciphered by expert naadi astrologers.

Universiti Malaya lecturer G. Sivapalan, who teaches siddhar philosophy and Indian astrology, said he was a non-believer.

He said he changed his opinion when his sick sister became well after consulting a naadi astrologer in India, who, through the naadi, directed him to meet a doctor in a hospital.

"I had taken my sister to many specialists here and I figured I had nothing to lose so we looked for the doctor.

"We asked around for a doctor with the initials given by the astrologer and found him. True enough, after consulting him, my sister became well," said Sivapalan.

He believes naadi readings are accurate but cautioned against wrong interpretations by the astrologers who read them. Some astrologers, he said, had money on their mind and these people often made mistakes.

Sivapalan added that mistakes could also creep in when astrologers made copies of the olai as each leaf only lasts about 200 years.

He said naadi astrology made its debut in Malaysia in the 1980s and many of these astrologers from India had been coming here ever since.

He said he had written down interpretations made by naadi astrologers for more than 800 people here.

Naadi astrologer R. Sentil Kumar said only certain people were fated to know their past, present and future through the naadi system. He said the naadi also provided ways to reduce the impact of bad karma or overcome obstacles.

"Incurable diseases are cured if they follow the instructions in the naadi. However, the influence of past karma affects a person so badly that sometimes it is written in the olai itself that that person should not be helped with remedial measures," he said, adding that such people had committed atrocities in their previous births.

Sentil said his clients included Malaysians, Singaporeans, Germans and Japanese who came to India to read their olai.

Another astrologer, T. Ramesh, who has been reading olai for more than 16 years, agreed with Sivapalan about misinterpretations of the naadi and added that true readers of the naadi were born, not made.

"Sometimes, people come here with questions and the answers will appear in their naadi," he said.

Ramesh said naadi astrology was different from ordinary astrology as only through naadi could a person know his past karma (actions done in previous lives). He said with this knowledge, a person could better understand his circumstances today.

He has read the olai for more than 20,000 Malaysians.

Brief history

THE naadi inscriptions are said to have been written in India thousands of years ago by sages on olai or dried palmyra leaves, using their yogic intuitive powers.
Over the centuries, the olai were passed on from father to son or master to disciple.
In recent times, many of these bundles of olai were collected and stored in the Saraswati Mahal Library in Tanjore, south India.
When the British came, they are said to have sold off some of these olai to locals, mostly astrologers.
The olai were handed down over the generations.
Young people were given training in how to read the naadi.
It soon became a means of livelihood for many.
The olai are preserved by rubbing them with peacock oil on auspicious occasions.
The main centre of naadi astrology is in and around Vaitheeswarankoil, near Chidambaram, in Tamil Nadu.

How it is read

THE thumbprint of the seeker is taken and is used to identify the seeker’s olai from the numerous manuscripts in the astrologer’s possession.
If the person is lucky, his olai will be with that particular astrologer. If not, he will have to look for it from other astrologers.
Sometimes the olai containing his information might have been lost or destroyed and he will not be able to have his olai read.
Once the astrologer locates the particular bundle, he begins to read from each olai and asks the person a series of questions about his life, to identify the correct olai.
This process can take a few minutes or several hours.
Once the correct olai is located, the astrologer reads from it, describing the person’s life in detail.

The astrologer will also suggest remedial measures for a person to reduce the influence of past karma and enhance the benefit of future activities.

By poobalan on August 20, 2007 · Posted in Indian

83 Comments | Post Comment

Netto says:

Can I have the address or the phone number of Mr T.Ramesh (the nadi reader). You can call me on my handphone 01x-xxx xxxx. Thank you.

MP: Sorry, I dont have any details. You may have to call NST and talk to the reporter involved.

Posted on October 2nd, 2007

Maya says:

Hi!

Did anyone manage to get the contact no for Mr T.Ramesh? I have been trying to get his contact for some time now, but until todate to no success….

Sorry for any inconvenience caused

Posted on October 16th, 2007

poobalan says:

You can try emailing the NST’s news team at news@nstp.com.my

OR refer to their contact’s page here and ask for Ms Suganthi Supramaniam, the reporter who wrote the article.

Posted on October 16th, 2007

Desidon says:

Go to The Temple and get the reading. .

Posted on November 9th, 2011

Maya says:

MP: hope you can share with us the info, or email me so that in future I can pass it to others as well.

Hi!

I manage to get the information that I wanted.

Just wanted to ‘Thank’ You.

Take Care

Maya

Posted on November 16th, 2007

krishna says:

can i get a ctc of Mr. T.Ramesh

Posted on June 23rd, 2008

Kanmani says:

Can i get contact no of Mr T. Ramesh

Posted on August 28th, 2008

Radha says:

May I know the contact information for the reader?

Thank you

Posted on December 10th, 2008

Balakumaran says:

Head Office

Dr.K.Selvamuthukumaran PhD.,DHA,
Sri Atri Maharishi Naadi Astrological Centre,
# 12/14-A, Thiruvadudhurai Madathu Street, Vaitheeswarankoil,
Sirkali(Tk), Nagai(Dist), Tamil Nadu – 609 117, India.
Mobile:+91-9443986041, +91-9440602795 | Phone:+91-4364-276188
Email & Live Chat: jeevanadi@hotmail.com, atthirinadi@gmail.com, atrinaadi@gmail.com, skype ID : jeevanadi

Branch Office

Mr. K. Sundar Swamy
Sri Atri Maharishi Naadi Astrological Centre,
# 15-2-203, Sri Bhadrakali Temple Road, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh – 506 007, India
Mobile: +91-9440602795
Email & Live Chat:
jeevanadi@hotmail.com, skype ID : jeevanadi , atthirinadi@gmail.com, atrinaadi@gmail.com, Skype ID : atrinaadi
feel free to contact us:atthirinadi@gmail.com

Posted on August 16th, 2011

wilson says:

MP: pls READ the earlier comments.

How can get the contact ?

pls email me at coollguy100@gmail.com

Posted on December 7th, 2007

wilson says:

I got contact from mr ramesh and went there to get a reading. they register my thumb print and ask my dob and time. Ask a question to find out my leaf. He just give back the answer from the question he me. he is just a crook like any other nadi reader. for person who wanted to visit him beware. Now I know that the true nadi reader will not ask our date of birth and time. we only need to register the thumb print only.

Posted on May 6th, 2008

john says:

This is the first time i heard about this, i recently heard from a friend of mine, i couldn’t believe it until everyone on this website are telling the same thing. I damn curious about this odi chulai thing, where exactly can i see this or MR T Ramesh, anybody pls give the details or contact at this e-mail jon_77_88@yahoo.com. is it true??

Posted on May 14th, 2008

murugaiah says:

can i get the address or phone number T.Ramesh(the naadi reader).

Posted on June 18th, 2008

Ashika says:

i have his number but are v talkin bout the same astrologer??? at brickfileds??

Posted on January 11th, 2009

Suresh says:

I read your comment on NST of the astrologer at Brickfields.Even though your comments is dated sometime ago in Jan 2009,you could assist me to confirm if his name is Kalaimamani and is now in Malaysia.I had meant to travel to Kl but I had lost my handphone and his contact details.
Only clue I have is,he is from Tiruchi and visits KL and Singapore regularly but on his present trip to Kl,he was not able to get a visa to Singapore.
You could share his number with me to book an appointment.
Thank You
Suresh

Posted on May 31st, 2012

Ganeshan says:

Hi Crystal
Can you let me know of T. Ramesh e-mail id and where brickfields is?
My Email id: saiganesh@myt.mu

Posted on September 27th, 2012

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Posted on July 17th, 2008

saresvathy a/p silvaraj says:

vanakam,

i want to look olai chudi and want to know my history
want to know, how is my marrige life and my future

Posted on December 18th, 2008

sangeetha says:

Hi Saresvathy, there is a genuine nadi reader. If you are not married you can see Chapter seven and it is mandate that you have to see Chapter 1, 13 and 14 and perform poojas whatever given in Olai Chuvadi. You can mail me at sangeetha_74@yahoo.com or call me at 9841735461

Posted on January 9th, 2009

Ashika says:

Hello ppl.
jus came across this page.. jus to let u all know tat i have met this astrologer name T.Ramesh and all he said was so true.. seriously i felt as if y didnt i cm ther earlier… u guys wanna meet him to??

Posted on January 11th, 2009

Xquisit says:

Hi Ashika

Appreciate if you provide me his details.

I will be making a trip to India sometime Mar 09

Posted on February 3rd, 2009

Xquisit says:

This keep hiding 🙁 Please e-mail me at devinely_unique@hotmail.com

Posted on February 3rd, 2009

Krish says:

Hi Ashika,

Would appreciate if you can provide me his contact details.

Thanking you in advance.

Rgds
Krish

Posted on February 6th, 2009

ashika says:

@Krish,
0163570527

if u go pls tell me if he is tellin all truth for u

ashika2804@yahoo.com

Posted on February 2nd, 2010

Sam says:

Hi Ashika,

I too will be visiting Mr Ramesh soon (Brickfeilds) and will let you know how it went.

When you had your reading, did he ask for your date of birth and time of birth? I am very sceptical of readers asking this from me, as they can always draw up a horoscope right there and then, and there is no way of knowing if they are actually reading the palm leaf !

Posted on April 27th, 2009

Preeti says:

Hi,

I would like to get the contact number for the olai chudi master. can anyone please let me know d details at preeti313@hotmail.com

Thank You Very Much.

Posted on July 24th, 2009

ashika says:

@Preeti,
016 3570527

Posted on February 2nd, 2010

ashika says:

@Sam,
hello his number is 016 3570527
behind vivekananda ashramam hall…

u can e-mail me at ashika2804@yahoo.com for any doubts

Posted on February 2nd, 2010

athi says:

hi ashika,
im athi. i would like to know how can i contact mr.t.ramesh? if u hv his contact, can u give to me? i will appreciate for your help. tq

Posted on April 28th, 2009

devan says:

dear ashika,
please give me the details of mr.T.Ramesh.I want to meet him too.

regards,
Devan

Posted on December 18th, 2011

rema says:

hi Ashika,

i just met in july T.Ramesh…all seens true past and present….how was it for u…since u met him some years back ?

Posted on April 21st, 2012

prem says:

hi, i’m very interested to see him… can i get his contact number please?

Posted on November 8th, 2012

florance says:

I require the T Ramesh contact, Can you please call me or email to me;

rmd_flo@hotmail.com. Thanks

Posted on January 28th, 2009

nivashi says:

can i have mr.t.ramesh’s ctc number ??.pls….i need to consult him URGENTLY..

Posted on February 2nd, 2009

Das says:

Can anyone mail T Ramesh contact number to me

sarandsx@gmail.com.

Thanks.

Posted on May 4th, 2009

B.Yoges says:

I wan to see olai chudi, pls email me T.Ramesh h/p no…urgent

Posted on June 25th, 2009

B.Yoges says:

Im not married yet, facing a prob to settle in marriage life…need advise through olai chudi…tq

Posted on June 25th, 2009

neha says:

I have seen before but I want a double confirmation….so thought of seing a different one. Can I have the nadi reader’s number pls. Please mail it reema_55@hotmail.com. I’m from Klang Valley.

Posted on September 2nd, 2009

MC says:

Interested in getting a reading but afraid of being conned, somebody pls mail me dofusm@gmail.com the contact no. of reader if they have the information. Thank you.

Posted on September 17th, 2009

amir hossain says:

I don’t know what is my birthday?
I just know that my born place is monday. Can you please advice.
Thank you.

Posted on September 30th, 2009

Prem says:

could i please have the master’s contact details..

Posted on October 1st, 2009

Nemrod says:

Hi could any1 mail me his contact number at nemrod8281@hotmail.com

Posted on October 2nd, 2009

S. Paramasevam says:

”GOD BLESS EVERY ONE IN THIS WORLD”

Hello,
My dear Brothers and Sisters, i appreciate that if any one of you guys can give me the contact no of Astrologer Mr T Ramesh.
Thank you very much.
below are my e-mail address : spsevam@yahoo.com or robert@dragonflydesign.com.my.

Posted on November 26th, 2009

teeran says:

Dear friends
I will be so thankful if anyone of people would give me the contact number for the olai chudi astrologer Mr T ramesh. Please do let me know d details at : teeran_vtech@yahoo.com
Thank you for your kind information

Posted on November 28th, 2009

Brina says:

I just came back from meeting mr ramesh.. his number is 016-3570527 or 016-9665039… And trust me, the olai reading is true..

Posted on December 7th, 2009

Ravin says:

What are the charges please Brina?

Posted on December 28th, 2009

Ganeshan says:

Hi Brina
Is T.Ramesh the same person who was in Calicut ( Kerala)?
Do you have his e-mail id. My E-mail id: saiganesh@myt.mu
Awaiting reply. Thanks.

Posted on October 14th, 2012

NOOR SHAKILAHBEE says:

I MARRIED 3 YEARS READY BUT I NO HAVE BABY.ANY ADVISE FROM OLAI CHUDI

Posted on January 24th, 2010

ASHIKA says:

I HAVE SEEN MR T.RAMESH AND SO FAR HE SAID ALL IS TRUE..

Posted on January 31st, 2010

Gulab says:

@ASHIKA,

Ashika can i know where is this place?

Posted on February 1st, 2010

ashika says:

@Gulab,
Hi his number is 016-3570527
its behind vivekananda ashramam in brickfields..
its a shop lot towards the back of restaurant B sentral.
Pls if u go after seeing him, pls pls tell me wat he said is true or nt.. coz wat is happenin to me is soo soo true. can e mail me at ashika2804@yahoo.com

Posted on February 2nd, 2010

Gulab says:

@ashika,

Thanks ashika, will let u know once i see him

Posted on February 2nd, 2010

Gulab says:

@ashika,

how much do we need to pay?

Posted on February 2nd, 2010

malar says:

If this true………..i am keen to know my previous birth

Posted on February 4th, 2010

shamala says:

Hi vanakan.
I want to know abt my current married life?
Its full fill wt painfull. I unhappy wt my spouse.
Pls help me. I hope some one ‘ll safe my life

thanks
unlucky women
shamala

Posted on February 12th, 2010

Jeevan says:

Hi.. im from singapore… where is Mr ramesh from?? i would like to meet him too

Posted on March 12th, 2010

Thina says:

what is my olai chudi

Posted on March 16th, 2010

Shrish says:

I just came across of your article. Well just wondering, if you have to go in person to see him to get the readings? Because I live in Melbourne and its hard for me to go over.

Posted on April 3rd, 2010

poobalan says:

shrish,

i guess so u hv to personally.

Posted on April 5th, 2010

thana says:

is alliance college of medical science recongnised. tq

Posted on April 5th, 2010

poobalan says:

thana,

you have to check with the uni, MQA, and alliance itself. if i’m not mistaken alliance had some problem last year with ministry.

Posted on April 5th, 2010

jc says:

I wan to see olai chudi, pls email me T.Ramesh h/p no…urgent

Posted on November 12th, 2010

tm thanesh says:

i have so many problems my bate of brith si 20/11/1980

Posted on May 15th, 2011

sivakumar says:

i saw olaichuvadi at brickfield 14.12.2009 but now nobody there maybe at s,pore but for your info if remedies please go and do it your self bcoz there do remedies for me by them due to i was jobless at india but nothing change still jobless and my finance become worst-now i only belief in guru means siddhars and god

1.safe your self by your self-swami vivekananda.
2.if 100 people buy lotter no not all will win same goes to olaichuvadi
3.but if u got genuine olaichuvadi readers then ok

Posted on May 27th, 2011

Amy says:

Dear readers,

He is big liar , don’t believe him. I met him for my personal reading on march 2010 and after read he force me to read for shanthi gandam , after he read he say I must do lot of pariharam if don’t I wont get married and wont get good life , since it very sensitive issue I made to do all the parigaram he told me ,including he request me to give thanam thing’s for parigaram( pattu saree, 3gm gold thali, bangles , RM 423 and extra . He say after I done this will get married and he say will read for me the 7th gandam of olai chuvadi. After I completed my trip to india and the money and pariharam that he ask me to give him , I contact him to read my 7th gandam . whenever I call him , he ask me sms the “date” that frist I meet him for reading and he will call back almost 5 month. I always call him for appointment and he start to ignore my calls and or will put the call on hold. When I ask abt what he done the parigaram thing .. he refuse to give any answer . and whatever he read to me not happen at all. This India guy simple making money from us with his limited knowledge .
Dear friend be aware from this guy !! I want to make complaint about this guy Government organization soon.

Posted on October 24th, 2011

rema menon says:

hi how true is T.Ramesh…..i want to see him

Posted on April 20th, 2012

janice says:

The price for the session is expensive as compared to other readers in town. He charges RM$ 200 for a general and one specific reading. Translation services are provided by a person who does not speak basic English. It would be advisable not to use the translation services.
As for the actual reading, it is very generic. T Ramesh is astute in not providing any details as if you want to know more you will have to pay and for each chapter it is RM$70, not exactly cheap. Friends who have seen other readers were able to get a generic reading plus past birth experiences in detail at one sitting at a very much cheaper price. Lots of questions are asked during the initial search whereby one would feel obligated to inadvertently provide the answers. The answers are then pieced together during the general reading. That is the feeling I got while listening to the reading.
As for the future, the feeling was, it was reported as such with the intention of motivating the person to go for a further reading of the chapters and to resolve the issues..

Posted on May 1st, 2012

Crystal Fun says:

Janice,

Hi, I’ve had my nadi leaf read by Guru T. Ramesh on 23/05/2011. What he said about me is soo sooo true. He said that I will receive a blessing (a hug) from a female master but don’t know when and where. True enough, the hugging amma came here (Malaysia) on 09/04/2012 and out of the blue, my friend asked me to accompany her to Putrajaya for the hugging session and I was hugged. Another evidence of accuracy was he said that I have had my chakras opened and I have alot of cosmic energies and I can heal people using my hands.

Posted on May 27th, 2012

Nani says:

I wan to see olai chudi, pls email me h/p no…

how much do we need to pay?

Posted on May 22nd, 2012

thanu says:

i badly needed t ramesh’s contact dtls…if anyone cud provid pls

Posted on May 26th, 2012

Crystal Fun says:

thanu, here you are – 016 3570 527

Posted on May 27th, 2012

Krishnan says:

Is Mr Ramesh still seing people in Brickfields? Do you guys think he is genuine and able to predict the future with reasonable accuracy?

Posted on May 28th, 2012

Crystal Fun says:

Krishnan, to the best of my knowledge, he is still reading nadi leaves for people in Brickfield. I think he is genuine. He does not predict the future, he just read your past, present and future from the nadi leaves. It’s the matter of how he transcript.

Posted on May 30th, 2012

Krishnan says:

Thanks for the reply Crystal. I am assuming whatever he told about your future must be happening:) I was just curious because I read posts of people saying that Mr Ramesh doesn’t have enough knowledge about nadi. But I think I will give him a try:) He does transcript well right?

Posted on May 31st, 2012

Mohan says:

Dear friends,
Where in brickfields i can find Mr.Ramesh.Hope to get some info. Thank you in advance.Plz email me at manimohan_81@yahoo.com

Posted on July 19th, 2012

Sankarita says:

hi vanakam..where i can find Mr.Ramesh at Brickfield?i need to know d place at brickfield

Posted on November 3rd, 2012

trix says:

ermmm how did the olais get to malaysia..? i thot it’s in india…rm200 costly for me. maybe someone who had tried olai can explain the difference to astrology?

Posted on November 7th, 2012

Doctor says:

Hii i saw t.ramesh a week ago..his prediction bout my past was true but i am not sure about my present..anyone havecany idea about how true is his future predictions

Posted on November 28th, 2012

Selvi says:

Very good naadi reading by Naadi Jothidar, Balamurugan at Petaling Jaya, he can be contacted at 016 3612017

Posted on December 23rd, 2012

Jega says:

Hi Selvi,
How accurate it is? I really want to know about my olai chuvadi. Is Mr. Balamurugan from India? Is he still there in PJ?
Many Thanks

Posted on January 22nd, 2013

Doctor says:

Hi i think ramesh is the best nadi reader till now..u guys should try seeing ramesh

Posted on February 16th, 2013

shamila says:

hie sir, i would like to know the past about my future. wan see the olai cudi at breakfield.(mr.ramesh). Cn i get the address??

Posted on April 7th, 2013

Tarini says:

i try to call Mr.Ramesh on 016-3570527 but coudn’t reach…… Anybody can provide his contact no plz… tq

Posted on September 17th, 2013