{"id":6075,"date":"2009-11-23T23:11:20","date_gmt":"2009-11-23T15:11:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/poobalan.com\/blog\/?p=6075"},"modified":"2009-11-23T23:14:03","modified_gmt":"2009-11-23T15:14:03","slug":"lady-was-converted-by-father-not-at-welfare-home","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/poobalan.com\/blog\/borninmalaysia\/2009\/11\/23\/lady-was-converted-by-father-not-at-welfare-home\/","title":{"rendered":"lady was converted by father, not at welfare home"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Few days ago, we read about the lady who claimed she was <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/poobalan.com\/blog\/borninmalaysia\/2009\/11\/19\/convert-at-seven\/\" target=\"_blank\">c<\/a><\/strong><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/poobalan.com\/blog\/borninmalaysia\/2009\/11\/19\/convert-at-seven\/\" target=\"_blank\">onverted at the age of seven<\/a><\/strong> while staying in a welfare home. Today, the Welfare Department said that <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.malaysiakini.com\/news\/118138\" target=\"_blank\">her father was a convert<\/a><\/strong> who converted the children. Now she has to go through an arduous process of changing the religious status before can continue her life with husband and children.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span id=\"contentbody\" style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial;\">Housewife S Banggarma was converted to Islam by her father and not by state religious authorities as alleged, said welfare department director-general Meme Zainal Rashid today.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">Previously, the 27-year-old mother of two claimed that she had been unwittingly converted at the age of seven when residing at the Taman Bakti welfare home in Kepala Batas, Penang.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; padding: 4px; margin: 5px; border: 1px solid #888888;\" title=\"Meme Zainal Rashid\" src=\"http:\/\/media1.malaysiakini.com\/223\/3038fcc143a57da385773a4a71158591.jpg\" alt=\"NONE\" width=\"160\" height=\"171\" align=\"right\" \/>In a statement, Meme (<em>right<\/em>) said the Penang state welfare department had\u00a0<a style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.malaysiakini.com\/news\/117832\"><strong>investigated<\/strong><\/a> the case after it was highlighted in the media.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">According to records, she said Banggarma was converted to Islam by her natural father along with her other siblings on Nov 30, 1983.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">This was stated on the conversion acknowledgment letter by both her mother and father filed with Islamic authorities in Rompin, Pahang.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">&#8220;She was only placed in a welfare home from March 1990 by court order under the Juvenile Courts Act of 1947 for her own protection, after she was found wandering aimlessly in Sungai Petani, Kedah,&#8221; said Meme.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; padding: 4px; margin: 5px; border: 1px solid #888888;\" title=\"penang s banggarma siti hasnah unwitting conversion hindu islam 191109 07\" src=\"http:\/\/media1.malaysiakini.com\/222\/183774ff913ad05c96adae1ad25fe00a.jpg\" alt=\"NONE\" width=\"200\" height=\"261\" align=\"left\" \/>&#8220;The accusation that she was converted to Islam while under the care of the welfare department has been proven to be false.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">&#8220;The documentary evidence proves she was already a Muslim before she was placed in the welfare home,&#8221; she added.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">Banggarma (<em>left<\/em>), whose Muslim name is Siti Hasnah Vangarama Abdullah, said she discovered her Muslim status when seeking to register her marriage in 2000.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">As to the current religious status of Banggarma, Meme said: &#8220;It is now in the hands of the Penang Islamic authorities.&#8221;<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">&#8216;Free to turn apostate&#8217;<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">The Penang Islamic Council (MAIPP) president Shabudin Yahaya confirmed that they are also investigating the case.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">&#8220;As far as we are concerned, she is a Muslim. Whether she is practising or not, is not the question. What matters is that she has taken the\u00a0<em>Shahadah <\/em>or the ritual testament of faith.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; padding: 4px; margin: 5px; border: 1px solid #888888;\" title=\"penang s banggarma siti hasnah unwitting conversion hindu islam 191109 12\" src=\"http:\/\/media1.malaysiakini.com\/222\/92a571dc55bd51f1a8f12f7dacf04257.jpg\" alt=\"NONE\" width=\"200\" height=\"128\" align=\"left\" \/>&#8220;But Hasnah (Banggarma) is free to turn apostate and leave the Islamic faith, though she will have to undergo the standard procedure,&#8221; he said.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">Shabudin said that the procedure may involve counselors from the Penang Islamic department who will provide counseling and ascertain her claims.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">However, the MAIPP president cautioned that this process is not to encourage those who want to leave the Muslim faith, but the procedure exist for cases such as this.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">He likened Banggarma&#8217;s case to the Fatimah Tan case earlier this year, where Muslim convert Siti Fatimah Tan Abdullah was allowed to\u00a0<a style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.malaysiakini.com\/news\/95976\"><strong>renounce<\/strong><\/a> Islam and revert to her original religion of Buddhism.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; text-align: justify;\">On the status of her current marriage, Shabudin said this has to be decided by the Syariah courts, as legally Banggarma is considered a Muslim.<br style=\"font-family: Verdana, Arial; letter-spacing: 0px;\" \/><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Few days ago, we read about the lady who claimed she was converted at the age of seven while staying in a welfare home. 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