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details of subashini case judgement

December 28th, 2007
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As far as I can understand, the judges are telling that Suba is correct and the husband also correct in initiating divorce; the husband is correct to convert the son, and still it does not provide any answer. It just goes to show that the law is not clear. in this case, if the husband converts the child, what about the mother's rights? violated right?

So who will judge the custody case? the children were product of civil marriage and should be treated as such. i still believe the husband is misusing the loopholes in the religion and law, and spoiling the name of Islam. Is this the sign of a compassionate religion? Not if people like the husband are around.

Subashini case: Divorce comes under civil court
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/76423
Soon Li Tsin | Dec 27, 07 12:24pm

The Federal Court today ruled that the syariah courts cannot dissolve a civil marriage and all dissolutions made in the religious court is only effective and applicable within the confines of Islamic law.

“The non-Muslim marriage between the husband and wife remains intact and continues to subsist until the High Court dissolves it pursuant to a divorce petition by the unconverted spouse…,” justice Nik Hashim Nik Ab Rahman, who headed a three-judge bench, told the court.

This is a minor victory for company secretary R Subashini as her marriage with Islam-convert husband T Saravanan was a civil marriage and she could clearly now go to the civil courts to seek remedies.

Subashini, 28, a Hindu, is trying to stop her husband, who has converted to Islam and assumed the name Muhammad Shafi Saravanan Abdullah, from taking divorce and custody proceedings to the Syariah Court.

Saravanan, a businessman, converted in May 2006 along with their eldest son, Dharvin Joshua, 4. He then launched proceedings in the Islamic court for divorce as well as the custody of their second son, Sharvin, 2.

The Federal Court, in a 145-page judgment, said that the husband can still dissolve the marriage under syariah law but it will have no effect in the civil courts.

It added that Saravanan can seek remedies in the syariah courts but it cannot compel Subashini to do the same because she is a non-Muslim.

However, Federal Court did not make clear the issue concerning the custody of the two children as it also ruled today that both the husband and wife can initiate custody proceedings in their respective jurisdictions.

The country’s highest court also held that Saravanan did not abuse the law by converting his four-year-old son to Islam without the knowledge of the mother.

It said that according to the Article 12(4) Federal Constitution, only the consent of one parent is sufficient in the conversion of a child.

"Either husband or wife has the right to convert a child of the marriage to Islam," said Nik Hashim.

"The argument that both parents are vested with equal right to choose is misplaced. Hence the conversion of the elder son to Islam by the husband …. did not violate the Federal Constitution."

The court also ruled that it was within the right of Saravanan as a Muslim to file the divorce proceedings in the Syariah Court.

But Subashini case thrown out

Nevertheless, the Federal Court three-member panel today threw out Subashini case on a legal technicality – that her divorce petition was “premature and invalid”.

In a 2-1 decision, the court said that Subashini’s divorce petition was prematurely filed under the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 (LRA).

According to the act, the wife can only file for divorce three months after the date of her husband T Saravanan’s conversion to Islam, as stipulated under Islamic law.

However, Subashini’s divorce petition was filed about two weeks before the three months expiration date. The divorce petition is deemed null and void.

Nevertheless, Subashini can apply for a fresh petition.

In today’s landmark decision, justice Azmel Ma'amor agreed with Nik Hashim while justice Abdul Aziz Mohamad was the lone dissenting voice.

The judges, however, were unanimous that Subashini has no recourse for justice in the syariah courts because she is a non-Muslim.

This overrules the decision made by the Court of Appeal on March 13 when justices Suriyadi Halim Omar and Hassan Lah – who made the majority 2-1 decision – told her to take her case before the Syariah Court, while justice Gopal Sri Ram dissented.

According to the appellate court's majority decision, the injunction sought by Subashini was unsustainable because the Syariah Court is competent enough decide on the matter.

The country's civil courts operate parallel to syariah courts for Muslims in areas of personal law, including divorce and child custody.

Non-Muslim spouses say they fear they will not get an equal hearing if their cases are referred to the Islamic court. Subashini's case is one of a series of legal battles between Muslims and non-Muslims.

Husband, wife not in court

Both the husband and wife did not appear in court today.

Asked how Subashini is coping, lawyer K Shanmuga said she has not seen Dharvin, who has been living with her estranged husband, since his conversion.

“She is also extremely worried about her younger son, Sharvin, because he can be converted at any point in time without her knowledge based on today’s decision,” he said.

Shanmuga described the court decision as a "blow" to his client.

"The decision … causes great uncertainty about her children and what would become of their religion and custody rights," he said.

Subashini failed to get an injunction to stop her husband from seeking a divorce in the Syariah Court and prevent him from converting their children.

The lawyer said Subashini was not challenging the divorce but wanted it to be decided in a civil court.

Shanmuga urged the government to hasten legal reforms to allow parents to have equal say in such matters.

"This requires urgent legislative reforms to ensure both parents have an equal say in determining a child's religion and to prevent one party from going to a syariah court in respect to any matter dealing with a non-Muslim marriage," he said.

Another lawyer involved in the case said the decision could force Subashini to flee with her younger son for fear her husband may try to convert him.

"From the court decision, it appears that the Muslim husband can now proceed to convert the other son to Islam," he told AFP on condition on anonymity.

The landmark judgment in a nutshell
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/76448
Soon Li Tsin | Dec 27, 07 8:36pm

It took more than an hour for the judgment to be read in court. The majority decision was delivered by Nik Hashim Nik Ab Rahman – who headed the Federal Court three-member bench – while Abdul Aziz Mohamad delivered the minority decision.

Majority decision – Nik Hashim Nik Ab Rahman and Azmel Ma'amor

• Subashini’s divorce petition under the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act is deem null and void because it was filed before the requisite three months period.

• Saravanan and Subashini’s civil marriage can only be dissolved using civil law. The husband can still dissolve it under syariah law but it will have no effect in the civil courts.

• Saravanan can seek relief in the syariah courts but it cannot compel Subashini to do the same because she is a non-Muslim.

• Saravanan did not abuse the process by converting his child because the consent from one parent is sufficient according to Article 12(4) of the Federal Constitution .

Dissenting ruling – Abdul Aziz Mohamad

• The evidence of Saravanan’s conversion must be tried in order to determine whether the conversion date was based on his certificate or on facts made available to Subashini.

• Saravanan had abused the process in seeking the custody of the children in the Syariah Court because the religious court has no jurisdiction over a non-Muslim marriage.

• Saravanan’s conversion of the children is not unilateral and the wife has a right to object to the conversion as well as seek an injunction to stop the procedure.

• The High Court has exclusive jurisdiction in matters of dissolution of marriage, maintenance, custody and other ancillary reliefs because the marriage was solemnised under civil law.

Federal Court dismisses Subashini's case

THE STAR

By M. MAGESWARI

PUTRAJAYA: The Federal Court ruled that the dispute between secretary R. Subashini, 29, and her Muslim-convert husband T. Saravanan alias Muhammad Shafi Abdullah, 32, over the dissolution of their marriage and child custody will continue to be under the jurisdiction of the civil court. 

In the landmark decision on Thursday, Federal Court judge Justice Nik Hashim Nik Ab Rahman said a non-Muslim marriage does not automatically dissolve when one of the parties converts to Islam. 

"Thus, by contracting the civil marriage, the husband and wife were bound by the 1976 Act (Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) in respect to divorce and custody of the children of the marriage, and thus, the civil court continues to have jurisdiction over him, notwithstanding his conversion to Islam," he said.  

In a 2-1 majority judgment, Justice Nik Hashim said by embracing Islam, Saravanan and his eldest son (who also converted) became subject to Muslim personal and religious laws. 

"It is not an abuse of process, if he, being a Muslim, seeks remedies in the Syariah High Court as it is his right to do so," he said. 

Justice Nik Hashim, who sat together with Federal Court judges Justices Abdul Aziz Mohamad and Azmel Maamor, said this: 

"To my mind, the dissolution order of the civil marriage by the Syariah High Court by virtue of conversion would have no legal effect in the High Court other than as evidence of the fact of the dissolution of the marriage under the Islamic law in accordance with Hukum Syarak. 

"Thus, the non-Muslim marriage between the husband and wife remains intact and continues to subsist until the High Court dissolves it pursuant to a petition for divorce by the unconverted spouse under Section 51(1) of the 1976 Act," he said. 

He said there is no impediment for the converted husband to appear in the divorce proceeding in the High Court. 

He said the contention that the wife could submit to the jurisdiction of the Syariah Court and have recourse to Section 53 of the 1993 Act are not quite correct as the Act limits its jurisdiction to Muslims only. 

"The wife, being a non-Muslim, has no locus in the Syariah court," he said. 

Both judges also agreed that although the Syariah courts are state courts, they are not lower in status than the civil courts. 

Justices Nik Hashim and Azmel threw out Subashini's appeal by a majority saying that the divorce petition filed at High Court by Subashini was premature and invalid as it was filed two months and 18 days short of three months after the husband's conversion to Islam.  

Justice Nik Hashim said it was his view that Subashini was entitled to proceed with her application on custody but it would be most appropriate if she filed her petition for divorce afresh. 

On conversion, both judges said either husband or wife has the right to convert a child of the marriage to Islam.

Subashini loses court case!

December 27th, 2007
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As highlighted yesterday, the judges took the first option and threw out Subashini's case as invalid. This will cause her lawyers to file new case and more time is wasted.

More damaging, the converted idiot is allowed to convert his child as well. All of us must take note of this and ensure that any future convert's families are not left damaged and destroyed due to the irresponsible action of the convert.

This is a very damaging judgment and spells doom for people like Subashini who are cheated by cowardly spouses. In the future, the same situation may affect our own family members.

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/76423

Federal Court throws out Subashini's case

Soon Li Tsin | Dec 27, 07 12:24pm

The Federal Court three-member panel today ruled against R Subashini on a legal technicality – that her divorce petition in the civil court was “premature and invalid”.

In a 2-1 decision, the country’s highest court said that Subashini’s divorce petition was prematurely filed under the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 (LRA).

According to the act, the wife can only file the petition after the expiration of three months from the date of the husband, T Saravanan’s conversion, as stipulated under Islamic law.

However, Subashini’s divorce petition was filed nine days before the three months expiration date. The divorce petition is deemed null and void.

Justices Nik Hashim Nik Ab Rahman and Azmel Ma'amor struck out Subashini’s case while Abdul Aziz Mohamad was the lone dissenting voice.

Subashini, 28, a Hindu, is trying to stop her husband, who has converted to Islam and assumed the name Muhammad Shafi Saravanan Abdullah, from taking matrimonial proceedings to the Syariah Court.

Her husband converted in May 2006 along with their eldest son, Dharvin Joshua, 4. The husband then launched proceedings in the Syariah court for divorce and custody of their second son, Sharvin, 2.

The Federal Court also ruled that Muhammad Shafi did not abuse the court process by converting his four-year-old son to Islam without the knowledge of the mother.

It said that according to Islamic law, only one parent should be informed for the conversion of a child.

The court also ruled that it was within the right of Muhammad Shafi as a Muslim to file the divorce proceedings in the Syariah Court.

Go to Syariah Court

During her appeal to the Court of Appeal on March 13, justices Suriyadi Halim Omar and Hassan Lah who made the majority 2-1 decision told her to take her case before the Syariah Court instead while Justice Gopal Sri Ram dissented.

According to the majority decision, the injunction sought by Subashini was unsustainable because the Syariah Court is competent enough decide on the matter.

However, on March 30, Subashini was granted an interim injunction by the Court of Appeal restraining Saravanan from pursuing his claims in the Islamic court.

The injunction also effectively restrained him from converting their Sharvin to Islam and from pursuing his custody claims in the Syariah court.

It was also held in the landmark ruling that a Muslim could apply to the Islamic court to convert his or her underage children without permission from the non-Muslim spouse.

MIC focuses on jobs and homes

December 27th, 2007
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Typical election scenario. After waiting for 35 years, their problem can be solved within days!. All the best to the Rumah Hijau settlers. Hopefully others with problems will take advantage of the situation and make use of the politicians to settle their housing employment, education, welfare and other issues. This is the time. Make hay while the sun shines!
MIC focuses on jobs and homes

By Chong Chee Seong and Mohd Roji Abdullah
news@nst.com.my

MUAR: Addressing problems such as housing and employment are among key points highlighted by MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu during his current nationwide meet-the-Indian community roadshow. 

The works minister and his party leaders are working hard to solve the problems of the Indian community, particularly among those who supported the Hindu Rights Action Force's campaign.

"We chose places where the group got its support from. Recently, we held meetings in Teluk Intan (Perak), Kulim (Kedah) and Penang where we knew some of the Hindraf supporters came from. "We explained to them what we have done for the community and what we will continue to do," Samy Vellu said at the opening of the refurbished Pagoh rest area at Km135.5 of the North-South Expressway here yesterday.

He said MIC had mobilised its machinery to go to the grassroots to listen and find ways to solve the woes of the Indian community.

"If the problems cannot be solved by the party, I will refer them to the cabinet for a decision," he added.

One of the problems to be resolved is the issue of 350 Indian families in Penang who have been waiting for houses promised to them some 35 years ago. The group staying at the Rumah Hijau resettlement longhouse area was promised new houses but have yet to see any project implemented. They moved out from their area years ago to make way for the Mak Mandin industrial area project in Prai. Samy Vellu said he had written to Penang Chief Minister Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon over the delay and he would meet him to resolve the matter.

mic youth says problems not critical

December 27th, 2007
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"gave an assurance that these issues, which include housing and unemployment, would be resolved within a month"

Wow! That's super fast!

Problems not 'critical'

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IPOH: Problems faced by the Indian community are localised and not at a critical level as claimed by Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) and the opposition.

MIC Youth chief S.A. Vigneswaran, who described the problems as "not critical", gave an assurance that these issues, which include housing and unemployment, would be resolved within a month.

For a start, he said that data on the number of unemployed Indians would be compiled and submitted to the government.

MIC Youth had identified these problems and issues during its one-week nationwide tour to explain to the community the political situation in the country and issues affecting the community. "It's not that they (Indian community) are not happy with Pak Lah (Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi) or (Datuk Seri) Samy Vellu but the opposition has taken advantage of the situation by identifying these issues and blowing them out of proportion," he said on Tuesday.

Vigneswaran also said apart from the MIC, youth wings from the People's Progressive Party, Gerakan and Indian Progressive Front would be mobilised to go to the grassroots and help compile data on problems affecting the Indian community. "We admit that there might be some dissatisfaction but they must realise that only the Barisan Nasional government can help solve these problems."

On whether the support for the government has weakened in view of recent developments, he warned the Indian community not to gamble away their future by voting for the opposition in the general election.

interview with Mydin boss

December 27th, 2007
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Together with Malaysia, for better or worse

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TRAVEL to any major town in Peninsular Malaysia and chances are you will find a Mydin store in the area. Known for being "good value for your money", Mydin's stores today — in particular its hypermarkets — are competing against international players like Carrefour and Tesco.

Datuk Ameer Ali Mydin, managing director of Mydin Mohamed Holdings Bhd and son of founder Mydin Mohamed, not only remembers the company's humble beginnings but is also proud of it.

"It goes to show that you can succeed in this country if you work hard. Our business began in the pasar malam, my father was a trader and then in 1957, he opened a store in Kota Baru.

"In those days, if you have a store it means you are already a towkay. We were very fortunate but my father did not stop there… he worked hard. Today, there are 25 Mydin stores all over the country."

To illustrate his father's thrift, he tells a story about lime.

"This is not a 20-years-ago story… this happened just one or two years ago in Bangsar. We went to eat at a neighbourhood shop and my father ordered mamak mee and warm water. You know, how the mee comes with lime? Well, he asked for more lime and then squeezed the lime juice into the water.

"I asked him why. If he wanted lime juice, we could order it. But he replied that it was the same. He said why waste money even though it was just a little more than one ringgit. I suppose you can laugh and say he is stingy but there it is. He was always very careful about money and he taught us to be the same."

Values like these have taken the company so far from that small shop in Kota Baru. Today, Mydin operates the largest wholesale hypermarket in Malaysia and employs about 6,500 people.

Throughout the interview, Ameer told funny stories from his past, shared his experience running the business and his observations of Malaysia.

After all, the story of Mydin is very much like that of Malaysia.

"Yes, both Mydin and Malaysia are 50 years old. As the country grew, we also grew. We have not reached the peak, and neither has Malaysia. We are a big company now so we can afford to take some shocks. We are able to survive these setbacks. Same for Malaysia. We have to go through this, all a part of growing pains."

Q: In many ways, your company's progress mirrors Malaysia's pro-gress. Can you tell us some of the lessons you have learned along the way which helped you steer the company forward?

A: We believe that we know our customers and what they want. After all, we are Malaysians. I will give you an example. When we decided to open a hypermarket in Subang Jaya, I went to the bank to get a loan and the banker asked me: "Are you sure you want to open next to Giant? Are you sure you can compete? They have deep pockets."

He also suggested that it was risky for us to open in Subang Jaya. After all, we are better known for cheap products and our market has traditionally been in low-income areas like Jalan Masjid India or smaller towns.

I told him: "Malaysians love to go to pasar malam, right? Why? Because they can get things at a cheaper price. I live in Bangsar and that is quite an upper middle-class area. Have you been to the pasar malam there? People still want a good buy.

(Just one year on, the business in Subang Jaya is so good that a bigger parking space has been added for customers.)

Q: Are there any values you hold on to which you try to pass on to your employees?

A: Work hard. Opportunities are abundant in this country. You can get somewhere if you work hard. But if you don't, don't blame others when you do not succeed. You have to work hard to earn this! (He laughingly refers to his grey hair and the fact that people often think he is older than 52.)

Q: What is it about Malaysia that you cannot find anywhere else?

A: I always tell people I am very grateful to the government. I was a Mara scholar and without the scholarship, I would never have had the chance to study abroad. I am the only one in my family who was lucky enough to go to university.

Malaysians are very friendly. In this country, it is still possible to get access to politicians, to complain to them or send some business proposals. Mydins did not succeed because of political connections but there were many times I had to approach government officials on business, and I was impressed by how quickly they turned around to help.

Sometimes, it is easier to meet the top guys than the ones on the ground (he laughs). People may not know it but a lot of sincere effort is being made by the government. But of course, not everybody is happy. That is life.

Q: You have spoken often of that entrepreneurial spirit in all of us. Do you think many among the younger generation have lost that? What happened to our "can do" spirit?

A: I think it is because they have not suffered enough. They have things too easy now. They have not gone through the pain but, of course, we cannot turn back the clock. So what do we do?

In our family, we no longer allow the younger generation to just join the business after school or university. You have to work outside for about three years, learn about the real world. And only then can you come into the business. Or else, they just come in and become management straightaway. It's too easy.

Q: Who is your hero?

A: My father. Do you know, my father does not own anything? No car, house or any property. You see, he was always afraid to owe people money so he never bought anything.

He likes to tell people that he has four gems, referring to us, his four sons. But I always tell him that my three sisters are gems, too. He taught us that we can succeed by being honest and working hard.

I remember how he would take great pains to return or pay for any extra products the supplier accidentally delivered to us. He really lived by his principles.

Q: What is your wish for Malaysia as we head towards 2008?

A: Keep doing the right thing. You will get there. We are not doing too badly and we have to remember that our relationship with our country is like a marriage.

We have to work together for a better future. You don't just abandon each other when something goes wrong. If we accept each other — for better or worse — then we will be happy. You simply cannot give up.

Q: Would you please share with us a quintessential Malaysian experience?

A: Eating. Where else can you find people of different races enjoying each other's food? Just walk around Bangsar on a Sunday morning, you will see a Chinese eating thosai, a Malay or Indian eating dim sum.

I also think we have passed a certain level in our relationship with each other. Thirty years ago, my mother would not let my sister wear a baju kurung because it was not our culture. Today, you can see a Chinese wearing a Punjabi suit, an Indian wearing baju kurung and a Malay girl wear cheongsam. It's wonderful.