Samy ready to meet HINDRAF to iron out community problems

August 19th, 2007 by poobalan | View blog reactions Leave a reply »
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Hindraf, said to be aligned to an opposition party?

 
I thought HINDRAF supports BN? At least that's what a few of their banners/posters mentioned.
 

He said of the 523 Tamil schools in the country, 180 are fully-aided schools, while the remaining were partially-aided, of which 66 schools have been rebuilt through government and private funding.

 
523 schools in 2007. How many have been closed down? How many in process of relocation? How many have been rejected when approached for relocation? One school rebuilt via private funding is SJKT North Hammock in Setia Alam, due to estate being redeveloped as housing area. Out of 180 schools, how many were turned to fully-aided schools in the last 10 years? in the last 20 years? When will the rest (343 schools) will be converted to fully-aided? Is there a timeline or plan? Rather than looking at schools as physical infrastructure, they should also look at overall education improvement in the last 50 years in Tamil schools – number of students, dropouts, passing rates, facilities (library,science lab, computers, internet, tables/chairs) available at all 523 schools, student-teacher ratio, promotion and career prospects for teachers etc.
 

“We are going to rebuild another 160 Tamil schools with the help of the government,” he said.

 
What is the time frame for these 160 schools to be rebuilt? 20 years? 50 years?
 

On temples, Samy Vellu said only temples that were built or extended on private land without government approvals were demolished and not hundreds of temples as claimed by Hindraf.

If temple already existed before indepedence, can application be made after building constructed? How many application has been made and rejected so far? What happened to the committee to monitor temple issues under DBKL and Perak govt?

On allegations of mistreatment of estate workers, Samy Vellu said the number of Indian estate workers had dwindled drastically, with only about 20 per cent still engaged in the plantation sector, while the rest have migrated to urban areas. “The MIC has been helping these people to get jobs and houses in towns,” he said, adding that in Kuala Lumpur alone, out of 5,000 squatters, the MIC, with the help of the Kuala Lumpur City Hall, has secured 2,000 units of houses.

 
according to latest statistics, 63% of malaysians are in urban areas – meaning more migration and also transformation of rural areas into urban areas through redevelopment. That's why we have more urban poors now. Did they focus on reskilling these migrating or displaced groups so that can adopt to new environment? Anyway, HINDRAF made comparisons on what other community gets as compensation and what the Indians get as compensation. Everyone get house, but what house and where? And how about the issues where some estate folks don't have IC, marriage certs, and are illiterate?
 
Perhaps the comparisons and facts should be linked with similar statistics of all communities so that we can get a fairer picture?
 
 
 
Samy Vellu ready to meet Hindu NGO to iron out community problems

BERNAMA

KUALA LUMPUR, Sun.:

MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu is willing to meet the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf), a non-governmental organisation, to iron out Indian community issues and unresolved matters.

He said he was ever ready to meet any individual or organisations who were unhappy with the alleged shoddy treatment accorded to the Indians or wanted to resolve the community’s problems.

“I am always ready to listen to their views and explain to them the efforts taken by the government in resolving the woes of the Indian community,” the Works Minister said when asked by reporters if he was willing to meet Hindraf officials.

Hindraf, said to be aligned to an opposition party, submitted an 18-page memorandum to the Prime Minister’s office last Sunday on what it alleged as the marginalisation of the Indians by the government.

It also called for an end to the special privileges given to the Malay community.
While stressing that Hindraf had not approached him for a meeting, Samy Vellu said he was willing to meet them to discuss only matters concerning the Indian community.

Samy Vellu also rebutted some of the allegations made by Hindraf that the government had neglected Tamil schools and demolished hundereds of Hindu temples.

“There is no truth to such thing and I have the figures to substantiate them. Please do not make wild allegations,” he said.

He said of the 523 Tamil schools in the country, 180 are fully-aided schools, while the remaining were partially-aided, of which 66 schools have been rebuilt through government and private funding.

“We are going to rebuild another 160 Tamil schools with the help of the government,” he said.

On temples, Samy Vellu said only temples that were built or extended on private land without government approvals were demolished and not hundreds of temples as claimed by Hindraf.

“There is a limit to accusations. We must have an open mind and see things clearly,” he said, adding that the MIC has sought fresh applications for government grants to build and rebuild more temples.

On allegations of mistreatment of estate workers, Samy Vellu said the number of Indian estate workers had dwindled drastically, with only about 20 per cent still engaged in the plantation sector, while the rest have migrated to urban areas.

“The MIC has been helping these people to get jobs and houses in towns,” he said, adding that in Kuala Lumpur alone, out of 5,000 squatters, the MIC, with the help of the Kuala Lumpur City Hall, has secured 2,000 units of houses.

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119 comments

  1. MrNeeshal says:

    Lets all indians be united this time and show who we are…lets all fight for OUR rights..let us all indians be brothers and sisters and forget all other differences..we have been quite all this while and “THEY” step on us…nw..lets all show tat the fire within us is unleashed..UNITED WE STAND..FOREVER INDIANS!!!!

  2. nanda says:

    Can someone pls tell me why we are not fighting for better schools for the indians rather than tamil schools? I really feel our indian kids have a brighter future in the normal schools. The chinese schools have an edge because they learn mandarin. (In a way that they can communicate with a billion people in China, do business there and look for opportunities there too!!)
    Let do what is best for the kids, please. Teach them what they can use to be successful, globally. If tamil is being used all over the world, then by all means promote tamil schools and champion the cause. Otherwise improve their language skills, (English, Malay,Mandarin,French, German, whatever) maths, computers, etc.
    If we can get the goverment to do this and if all indians strive to be successful, work together, put the education of our next generation first over all other petty issues about politics, temples, tamil schools, etc. I’m sure we’ll be achieve great things in the very near future.
    We can also then afford to learn tamil as a hobby and build temples as a community service and still have a decent job and life.

  3. Manan says:

    The courage and determination of Mr. Uthayakumar and co. need to be appreciated by all. They r not in anyway creating hatred among Malaysians but just highlighting the inequality that’s faced by Malaysian Indians in general. I don’t think we can doubt that at all, it’s a sheer fact. It’s not blowing out of proportion as one might think but it’s just that someone out there has the guts to bring it up to light legally.
    Let’s answer what the lawyers have been questioning and one would find all those things make sense if you’re a rationale thinker.
    Let’s have Malaysianism feeling in all our activities..same university entry exam for all, equal treatment to all races etc., and that’s what merit is all about.
    There’re crappy notes in today’s paper indicating Indians supporting Hindraf bcoz of money they could get in compensation. This shows how shallow one could think as you’ve to work based on data and let’s answer to the accusations that Indians are marginalized in the first place..prove Hindraf wrong if you can.
    Now, it’s going to be a clash between MIC Indians and Hindraf based on how the comments are being linked. I hope MIC folks will not just think about themselves but think about overall Indians in general. Of course, MIC Indians may have not been marginalized specifically but let’s think about the rest. It’s not indeed a support for Hindraf but for the facts they’re pursuing.
    I strongly think this applies to all other minority races in Malaysia, equal right for all. It sounds like “Bangsa Malaysia” was uttered by certain quarters for a while months back..and probably it’s all gone now.

  4. Black Ninja says:

    Most of the ppl who supporting Semy NO VALUE are the ppl who have been/ being slave of HIM! You ppl thinking for the short term and ppl like you should migrate to india stay with a group of poverty and slave there. First of all those SELFISH thinking about their own ass are pleased to shut their mouth and back side. COWARD SELFISH CULPRIT!!!!

    HINDRAF VALGE!

  5. MIC Man says:

    TO ALL HINDRAF SUPPORTERS….POOOOOORRRRAAAAAHHHHH!!!! YOU ALL ARE NOTHING BUT GANGSTERS AND SHOULD BE SHIPPED BACK TO INDIA. IF YOU WERE IN INDIA, THE GOVERNMENT THERE WOULD HAVE SHOT YOU ON TEH SPOT. YOU SHOULD GO 3RD WORLD COUNTRY LIKE MYANMAR WHERE THEY USE LIVE BULLETS INSTEAD OF WATER AND GAS. YOU ARE WAY TOO MUCH BETTER HERE. SO STOP THIS SHIT AND LIVE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

  6. Manan says:

    One other key thing noted from many is that “if India it’s bad”?..let’s scrap that from your mind. Agreed that there are tons of problems there but where in this world would you be free without problems??
    We as Malaysians should strive to give the best for our country and be proud of our success here but that doesn’t mean downgrading the rest, especially the land of our ancestors.
    The context of India should be assessed more from spiritual point of view, not materialistic…because we’re human beings.
    India is going to stand out great in many categories down the road, with the economy roaring without much dependencies to the external world.

  7. sunantha says:

    Vaalga tamil makkal.vaalga tamilar samutayam.vaalga tamilar urimai. VAALGA CAPTAIN UTAYAKUMAR.
    Kickoff the stupid selfish Samy velu as soon as possible.

  8. sunantha says:

    Vaalga tamil makkal,vaalga tamilar samutayam,vaalga tamilar urimai,vaalga Hindraf & vaalga Captain Utayakumar.

    Samy Velu selfish,don’t beliave him.We must find our new leader.Don’t vote for BN.

  9. Salman Khan says:

    Hi all,

    Racial. Racist. All country in this world have this problem. Including America (to african American), China and Japan. How about India??? Well for your info, at India, the TAMIL were discriminate by the Urdu. Even Sikh were economically better than Tamil. Apart from some tamil superstar, other tamil population at India are very poor.

    Have any of you here go to india??? why the british bring the tamil races here??? why?? why?? Simple… majority of the tamil in malaysia coming from lower caste, which suddenly when they arrive in Malaysia and have a good life, they change their caste (Which is illegal in Hindu. If a a ksatriya, forever u are ksatriya. If you are untouchable, forever u are untouchable.)

    All this lower caste were send by the higher caste of new government after chola dynasty that lose war with british and Moghul empire. They sold their lower caste people to British to wage the war with Moghul and other tamil prince.. hehehehe.. thats why the majority of Tamil Malaysia dont want to go back to India. Can u imagine the tamil malaysia go back to India?? work all day, female raped by higher caste (which is also illigal in Hiduism), and they cannot go up of their caste like in Tamil Movie.. all that just a fantasy, which made rajnikant a tamil hero and also very rich.

    Thats about racist… how about religion???? In india, all the world know what they did to muslim, christian, sikh and also hindu(lower caste). No need to elaborate. What the situation in Malaysia??? simple.. The hindu practitioner not a majority. just around 2 million only. BUT… they build so many temple for different type of god in so many places. Is it logic to build a temple in a majority Malay population??? Is it logic to build a temple at Majority Chinese population??? And, is it logic to build a big mosque in a majority Indian population? I speak about a fact. When I small kid at Ipoh there are small hindu temple below a palm oil tree. In a majority chinese neighbourhood. every week they put food, and many things that generate a not good smell.. I remember many my chinese friends go there to steal milk, eggs and fruit. and put it to their grandparent tomb..

    As a summary, Government also demolish mosque in Malaysia. If it is necessary. Why there are no complaint about buddist temple being destroyed??? because they build the temple in a right place. think and then reply my email.. Give me fact ok.. fact…

    You want to demolish the bumiputra status.. Never go that boundaries. this is a warning. dont go that boundaries my friend. think before you act. If you dont care about your self, then care about your family and your next generation when you are unable to even pick the “madhu” bottle.

    If you choose to elect DAP, sammy vellu no longer have power in BN. Which after this, MIC unable to make demand to BN. hehehehe. Thats good actually.. Dont you forget that BN will never lose if there are no Indian supporter. at Ijok, BN put Indian as Wakil Rakyat Be careful. dont be trapped by the leader that want to have power. Religion have been used by Atal Behari Vajpayee to raise into power. He used it very well. He also triggered the Hindu-Muslim clash that killed 10,000 muslim (mostly female and children). What a fact huh…

    The special status of Bumiputra is a status given to protect malays. It maybe not relevance now. But its need time to implement the changes. Now we use meritrocacy system to University. Government also not select malay as goverment servant even though malays have more than qualified certificate. Because there are place for chinese and indian officer. Government contract still given to Malay but at the end also distribute together with MIC and MCA cronies.

    Mingle around… For muslim dont be to Extreme (like PAS). To Hindu dont be to extreme (Like Hindraf). Imagine if we make the temple as a big issue, suddenly PAS take this as their political weapon and use it to trigger the more extremist…. What will happened???

    Some of you tell me that Singaporean not practice this double class standard. You are wrong.. do you know that Singapore not allowed malay to become soldier???? While in Malaysia, government beg Chinese and Indian to be Government servant. At Singapore there are no Tamil School or Malay School. There are only Government School. Why Indian malaysia want to have tamil school???? Why our goverment not use force like singapore and India. If you argue that our Goverment to soft. I am agree. Thats true my bro.

    My friend Abdul Halim (previously he is a hindu. Convert as a Muslim around 3-4 years ago) told me that Hindraf also not satisfied because of many religious thing such as sharia law, temple and many more. He also gave me many information about HINDRAF to me and my fellow friend. My answer is yes, you got a point to argue. But dont make anything to trigger the extreme dark side the majority of population. please dont.

    We still in a process to build up our nation. Arguing and debating will increase our knowledge. which is very good. I know abour Indian community have gone through. As well as I know what malay have gone through. At the end of the day it is our self to helf our self. Not Government subsidy or place or anything. I not receive any subsidy my bro… Chinese not receive any subsidy my bro… I am right am I?? do u hate it when I’m always have fact? I have many Indian friend here my workplace. (An International University). They told me that the Hindraf are “not-wise” resolution. Whether they lie to me or or not I dont know. But I welcome anybody then want to meet me and I let u met with themself.

    I like fact and statistic. Give me more. We can carry on debating. Want to play?? Cmon….

  10. Rajen says:

    Talking to Samy Velu will be dealing with a gangster. He is good at ‘mereteraning’, yelling and shouting at the Indians. He dare not open his mouth and do the same thing with UMNO leaders because then he will be f****d all along the highway.

    If Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) were around He would have met u all – Waytha, Uthaya and HINDRAF. But look at our PM who preaches Islam Hadhari, claiming to be a Muslim leader for all Malaysians. Nothing near the Prophet’s example. Fight on HINDRAF! Almighty ALLAH and the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) know that Indians have been discriminated and will support your cause. They know how corrupted some people are.

  11. thamilan says:

    I was there on the Nov 26. Its time for action.
    Get rid of the wig totting draftsman.

  12. thamilan says:

    Salman khan You P**** Dont preach. This ass**** thinks he can conduct a course on Indian history. Tell me, how come a Malayalee descendant can become the PM and call Himself Bumiputra. Ass****

  13. tamilan says:

    MP: edited for threats.

    we dont want samyvelu nothing get for indians…selfish dog..pls **** him by someone

  14. agilam says:

    MP: edited.

    hey samy velu god was watchin u and under focus on u u r the next r u ready to ****….

  15. Indian from UK says:

    You Indian folks who live in Malaysia! Learn to speak Bahasa Malaysia properly before you can call yourselves Malaysians.

  16. Muralee says:

    at last the world came to know about indian in Malaysia.
    MIC – What is that ?? They are hopeless and they should admit that and Samy Velu , pls don’t run around the bush..You been caught…

  17. berhann says:

    hello my dear india friend. saya seorang melayu dan mengikuti perkembangan HINDRAF dan membaca setiap komen yg di lontarkan secara terbuka..menarik juga tentang perjuangan yg hendak di tonjolkan oleh UTHAYA dan rakan-rakan seperjuangannya..

    Se cara amnya saya melihat org India di Malaysia se bagai satu bangsa yg terkehadapan dari segi ekonomi dan juga pendidikan dan juga tidak ketinggalan dalam apajua bidang samaada sukan, politik, dan juga sosial.

    Saya berbangga dan kagum dengan pecapaian yg di capai oleh beberapa nama ini didalam bidang masing-masing dan mengharumkan nama negara..Siapa yang tidak kenal Datok PUNCH GUNALAN, DATOK DR JEGATHESAN,..Walaupun saya seorang Melayu tapi saya bangga dengan mereka..Saya juga bangga dengan ALLEYCAT..Saya menghargai peranan mereka dan saya percaya untuk mereka mencapai ketahap yang sedimikian mereka memerlukan semangat dan disiplin yang tinggi..

    Saya tidak nampak bahawa bangsa INDIA di Malaysia sebagai bangsa yang terpinggir malahan saya rasa dari segi ekonomi pencapaian yang di capai oleh bangsa INDIA adalah mengejutkan..Siapa yang tidak kenal ANANDA KRISHNAN..seorang INDIA yang pernah di nobatkan sebagai org yang terkaya di Mlaysia..Dalam sejarah ekonomi negara Malaysia belum pernah ada org Melayu yang Di iktiraf sebagai org ysng terkaya di Malaysia walaupun org Melayu adalah Majoriti..

    Saya kurang arif tentang sistem kasta yang di amalkan di kalangan masyarakat HINDU
    di Malaysia.Sebagai seorang ISLAM saya tidak memandang tentang KASTA yang di bawa oleh seorang HINDU..Saya juga berkawan dgn HINDU dan saya tidak pernah bertanya tentang KASTA mereka samaada dari KASTA yang rendah atau tinggi..Ini adalah kerana dalam ISLAM semua manusia adalah sama dan yang membezakan adalah kepercayaan dan pegangan hidup.

  18. ajax says:

    I think there is more in the Reid Commission that meets the eye.I say let the Reid Commission report be readily available 4 all to read.Can anyone tell me where I can get one. Indians equip yourself with the knowledge to fight against inequality. And Dato Samy, it’s time to change. U do not have a caliber person 2takeover let’s face it u can’t helm the party 4ever. U wasted time suppressing challenges than grooming a suitable candidate 2 takeover. U fail 2 make yr successor strong. Lee Kuan Yew nutured his son to takeover.If u look at his credentials and qualification u would b surprised. he equipped his son with training. Every indian should learn that we have 2 equip our future generation. Enough of spending money on unnecessary luxuries invest in yr children.

  19. ajax says:

    Oops I forgot where can I get the money to invest in my children when I’m not given the opportunity to make money…So here where u fail again Dato Samy.. So we are back where we started…So we have no choice but to take things into our hands..and the only next good thing that gives me any hope is HINDRAF

  20. ajax says:

    En Berhann
    Mungkin jugak ada masyarakat melayu terpinggir terutama sekali di negeri2 di utara, Sabah & Sarawak Bila saya tengok rumah kampong mereka ada yang usang tetapi tanah yang mereka duduki biasanya kepunyaan mereka sendiri. Manakala untuk pekerja estet rumah pun bukan kepunyaan mereka & tanah pun bukan kepunyaan mereka walaupun generasi demi generasi mereka berbakti kepada bumi Malaysia.

  21. Indian from Switzerland says:

    India-india di Malaysia sumua! Dengar sini. Itu Uthaya ke, sapa ka, surupa saja. Sekali Samy Vellu kasi projek juta-juta punya, itu Uthaya gerenti senyap punya. Yang bodoh itu orang pergi demo di KL, baling batu, baling kerusi, baling kayu, dan macam-macam lagi. Masuk meeting, baling kerusi. Itu sumua bodoh punya kerja. Yang kaya, you punya leader jugah. HIDUPPP SAMY VELU!!! HIDUP MIC!!!

  22. NAOMI says:

    WOW…..IT WILL NEVER END IT SEEMS…..INDIAN CRITIZE INDIANS,STEP ON EACH OTHER IN THE NAME OF RELIGION AND POLITICS.THERE ARE ON LY TWO RACE IN THIS WORLD GOD HAS CREATED MAN AND WOMAN.CHNAGES COMES FROM WITHIN MY DEAREST INDIANS NOT WITHOUT.LOE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU ENEMY NOR YOUR NEIGHBOUR.EDUCATE YOURSELF THROUGH EDUCATION NOT THROUGH CINEMA.GIVE YOUR CHILD EDUCATION FRO THEY ARE OUR FUTURE(TOMORROW) NOT HATRED THROUGH RELIGION NOR CASTE.I HAVE LEAVED ABROAD FRO THE PAST 10YRS HOWEVER I HAVE NOT FORGOTTON WHERE I COME FROM.NOR DO I FORGET WHO I AM.WHAT I CAN DO FOR MY COUNTRY IRREGARDLESS WHERE I AM.SO MY DEAREST INDIAN WHOM MIGHT PARTICIPATE IN THIS RALLY FRO WHT EVER REASON IT MAY BE DO IT RIGHT YOU WILL GET IT RIGHT….BLESSS US ALL..

  23. raja says:

    Yes the time has come for new leadership Hidup Hindref

  24. ajax says:

    Indian from Switzerland

    Dengarlah mana ada Samy sekarang kasi projek.Semua projek Kementerian Kewangaan yang kasi…So buatlah kesimpulan sendiri. Samy boleh rekomen sahaja..Wah kalau Udataya & HINDRAF nak dia boleh buat juta-juta ringgit macam Lingam jadi broker untuk para Hakim-Hakim yang Arif.Tapi dia memilih untuk mendengar kepada suara hatinya dan melangkah ranjau kebenaran untuk yang ditindas.

  25. hindraf says:

    dear to all reads i am a malaysian but in my ic they stated the i am a warganegara but if you take a look at malays they ic shows that bumiputra way is this are happening to us …….. i born in malaysia 2 y they dont wan give bumiputra to us is it wrong to us to ask our rights huh answer this to all indian we are human 2 we live in malaysia as peacefully but y is the government doing like this to us and please remember that if we indian support you there is many ppl who unable to came on the 25 nov it is because we indian are damm poor and it dont show that we support you (government) we as indian only asking our rights which i belive it is belong to us …… is it damm painfull to you all to give wat is belong to us

    hindraf hidup

  26. Deewa says:

    I agree that we need a new leader who could do uncle samy’s job properly. If MIC give importance to our well being, they should have taken action long time ago. People can talk nonsense which do make sense but they should not comment while they stay cosily in UK or some other developed country. You feel in such a way because in those countries you would enjoy equal rights and importance is given to merits.
    I am an Indian, I scored 5A’s for UPSR,7A’s for PMR, 10A’s for SPM and 4A’s for STPM. All the time I was suppressed. I didn’t get a place in MRSM, i didn’t get a JPA scholarship, I didn’t get
    a seat to do government matriculation.
    In the end Singapore offered me a seat in the prestigious NUS to study engineering.

    So do you really think all of us could really survive in Malaysia with proper education?

    In conclusion , Hindraf made the right move and we
    (all Malaysian Indian studying in NUS) would give
    you our full support.
    LONG LIVE HINDRAF!!!!!!!

  27. tamilmanan says:

    hidup hindraf…………………….

  28. Deewa says:

    MIC is famous for gangsters and thugs, even a close relative of mine who is in MIC agrees with it. So where does MIC actually stand?
    MIC has lost credibility long time ago.
    They should have done something good for the people before they can criticize others. Our Uncle collected money from Indians to build AIMST by saying it is to help Indians to fulfill their dreams.
    But how many dreams would have been shattered because of the high fees?
    I agree that lots of Indians are benefiting from it but those are only the people who can afford it.
    How about the poor Indians?

    So the question that arises is what does MIC actually does to help Indians?
    I agree that they actually ‘help’ by giving out
    RM 1000 for each student who did well in PMR,SPM and STPM( I collected that money twice). But MIC
    should instead flow this fund to help the poor kids.

    So again the question arises where does MIC actually stand?
    We are considered as 2nd or soon enough 3rd class citizens of Malaysia.
    So we should do something before its too late

  29. Deewa says:

    Dear Salman Khan,

    You intimidation tactic seems to work quite a bit.
    So you would want us to shut up while people step on our head? Would you ,if you are in that situation?
    I don’t get the meritocracy system that you mentioned, I did STPM and I have seen Matriculation
    syllabus. Matriculation syllabus is not even half of what you learn in STPM. Most or all Malays does matriculation while most non Malays end up doing STPM. So I still cant see the MERITOCRASY system
    that you claim to exist. One Malay friend of mine obtained 3.33 in Matriculation and he secured a seat to do Medicine. We who does STPM, with 4.0 we
    are still not ‘eligible’ to do Medicine.

    I agree Hinduism have caste problem but that is no longer given importance in this current era.
    So isn’t it irrelevant for you to make that kind of statement.( I have been going to India quite frequently, so pls do not question me on that).

    Even though India have this issues on but you
    seem to ‘absent mindedly’ missed out the important
    fact that India is a secular nation.If do not know what it means please have a look in Wikipedia. It means anyone is free to practice whatever religion religion they want. But has Malaysia declared to be secular? So how do you actually make your comparison? There is no actual freedom to practice any religion in Malaysia. Lets say your friend had the option to convert from Hinduism for whatever reason that might seem relevant to him,does he have the liberty to convert to another religion? So either your friend is blind or he was
    ignorant to notice that he lost the freedom to practice any religion.
    Even when the Prophet was preaching in early days,he faced lots of from people like you who try to intimidate others just to hold your position or let say special rights.So even though
    i am a Hindu, I would take the Prophet as an example as he did not to fall to cheap intimidation tactics by certain irresponsible people.

    Now about Singapore, I am currently studying in Singapore and I see Malay students studying and they are exceptionally brilliant. You see my friend, Singapore give importance to merit
    and nothing else(not to forget that people are treated more equally compared to Malaysia). I didnt find any Malays complaining of discrimination.Even Malays here speak very good English and more friendlier than Malaysians.
    My parents thought me to respect all religion as no religion tells you to do evil. All religion have one purpose, to guide us to go through this life with less suffering. So what i would like to say is , it doesn’t actually matter whether you are Hindu,Muslim or etc., GOD will always accept us even we are from different religions as long as we do GOOD,GOOD and only GOOD.

    So my friend Salman Khan, my humble apology for any harsh statements as I had no intention to hurt anyone from any walk of life. May GOD bless your soul for the deeds you do in the name of religion. Good Day, my brother

  30. Snake Man says:

    If you see an Indian and a snake, you’d better kill the Indian first. Heheh…no hard feelings okay. It’s just a joke.

  31. i jones says:

    Hinduism is a religion that is diverse. But we are united by what we believe in, so salman khan, get your facts (and english) right before you demand for facts. stop threatening us not to talk about certain things. when we are oppressed, when our talents are wasted so that some untalented guy can get a chance, we have to stand up for ourselves. we aren’t asking for privileges, for we believe in our ability. tamils have a glorious history, though ur fact twisting mind may not be able to register that. and the thing about the majority of those who came here from india are of lower caste is bullshit. there is a diverse mix of many castes here, and i for one am not from lower caste ( though i will not be ashamed if i was).

    our caste system was an idiotic creation of our forefathers, yet each great civilization has it’s flaws, and the caste system was hinduism’s. we have taken pains to eradicate it over the past century, both in india and malaysia,to a good degree of success. so your whole point above the caste issue is baseless and untrue. your facts are mere hearsay.

    so, salman khan, my question to you, do you even know the meaning of the word ‘fact’? fact and hearsay aren’t the same. and people who use them are also different. one is logical and empirical, while the other usually are arrogant and use ‘knowledge’ only for their selfish purposes.

    if a small illegal hut which has a hindu statue or somethin is demolished, we are ok with it. we understand the law. but there are some proper temples, aging more than 100 years old being demolished. why weren’t they given the correct legal documents last time itself, when so many mosques were given after independence? can you answer that?

    why a need for hindu temple in malay majority area? where are we gonna practice our constitutional right then? majority malay doesn’t mean there aren’t any indians there. if we can tolerate being woken up early in the morning by the azan (if it’s called by another name forgive me) even though we barely have any muslims in our area, then surely having a temple in majority malay areas wouldn’t be a problem would it?

    and bullying hindus into islam practices by forcing them to go to shariah court and all is a whole load of crap. would a muslim like to be questioned by a hindu priest for not following hindu rites?

    tamil is great race, reading thru proper history will tell you that. we may be going thru a tough patch now both here and in tamil nadu, but we will be back. we are the race that subdued srivijaya with ease.

    you had to resort to using the name salman khan. idiot, even salman khan is an indian.

    even the word bumiputera is a sanskrit word, the hindu language.

    heck, 25% of the words you use in malay are sanskrit.no that ain’t a proven fact. the percentage is probably higher.

    and no, tamil isn’t based on sanskrit, if u wanted to point that out (doubt your intellectual friends told you tho).

  32. i jones says:

    oh if u need more facts, here’s one.

    I got 5As for upsr, 7 As for pmr, 11 As for spm and 5 As for stpm. didn’t get a single freaking scholarship from the gahmen. and my co curricular track record was outstanding.

    a friend of mine, didn’t achieve any of tis. went to matriculation and is doin engineering in UM.

    the only difference between both of was the skin color. seems like it was all that mattered in the end to the gahmen.

    i’m in nus now too, with deewa 😉

    brain drain, yo!

  33. magician says:

    INDIA SEMUA KAKI PUTAR BELIT!

  34. DONT CARE says:

    MP: edited.

    im better stay in other country than staying malaysia. atleast i no need to care abt my rights at tht country.indonesian also can get more privillage than indians.. nw days i cnt understand who is migrant and who is so called anak malaysia.. may be u ppl can say dont vote BN… u all knw actualy BN dont care abt our(indian) votes…we hv only hv 2 million indians in malaysia and malays are abt 17 million if im not mistaken…. so u all thnkla who is more importent for the goverment which is control by UMNO … with two so called org MIC and MCA… atleast mca hv money power to compete with the ****** umno.. but for indian the ******* botak stole all our money and always talking rubbish if ask abt indian rigths and what BN hv done for the indians…..

    hello frends..
    may be u all can say HINDRAF will help us to fight for our rigths.. but for me i dont thnk so thy can do it… population vise we r very low.. lower thn indonesian in ths country… in coming years u can see all the indonesian will be given warganegara and the goverment will make thm eligible to vote.. ths kind stupid -stupid things can hppn in this stupid country…. im glad coz next year im moving to overseas… atleast i can stay there peacefully without any heart feelings seeing my fellow indian fighting for nothing.

  35. mamiya says:

    MIC heads must roll if India and Western Countries start boycotting the palm oil over the next 6 months on the alleged discrimination against non Bumi by UMNO led govt.
    Protection against certain race is not in the interest of the country as some want to run fast and others are lazy or with subsidised/beggar mentality to move an inch. The later should be end up in kampungs. Country must move fast to compete with surrounding countries to achieve benefits to the masses and not to protect the lazy scums.
    Bear in mind , the capital will go where there is efficiency and will not stay due to cakap cakap…
    Good luck if this country change or else like others or smart Malays migrate to countries where talent is valued for their children’s future!

  36. mamiya says:

    can you imagine Singapore is now a developed country whereas Malaysia is still third world?
    Why ? The UMNO led govt have dragged the country to dog because of so call BUMI is not ready to catch up with the world trend. Now , who is suffering and be blamed ? UMNO! A batch of brainless inspite of so call overseas study trips wasting billions of dollars of tax payer money! They came back without any reports on how to improve the country.
    Just ask any Singaporean civil servants or politicians after their return trips from overseas?
    Report followed by action plan and constantly reviewed the action plan!!
    Our bunch of politicians are mentally below third world average! Even Samy too. Why? Singapore started as third world and after separation with Malaysia and now they are 1st world! Miracle? No, meritocracy works and not race!

  37. ray says:

    Dear indian in switzerland.. r u related to botak coz its a well known fact that all his and his wife relatives get scholarship to study overseas..
    i know a few of them… so easy just proof yr related and u get an MIC paid education…
    thats not ever talking about business contract for his relatives… yes blood is thicker then water…. unfortunalty u little shit your suppose to help all indians not just family…
    To deewa n friends… u sound inteligent pls don’t come back to this country…coz years from now they will start asking malaysians to return to serve the country.. remember how malaysia supported u in the 1st place…sic…!
    most of my friends have left and i am trying my best to do so too…. so stupid mentality in this country… to denied the ppl that can really improve the country b’coz of skin color… corrupt to the core but u can’t say anything coz they will lock u up… nvdmind coz looking at how many indonesians r became bumi’s so easy hahah one day the really so called bumi’s are going wake up and shit themselfs…
    As for the arguement about replacing that bald gangster only to get another in his place well.. keep replacing all the other gangsters so at the end of the day these bloody so call leaders wake up and realise we r not children to be played with and if they don’t buck up well people power will decided… so make yr vote count…
    as for singapore… not really my fav. place to live but i have met ppl there and generaly they look down on us as kampung cousins… who’s faulty is that..
    1 last thing.. to my indian ppl.. be wat ever u r.. the one thing i have learn is kill the snake and maybe that indian might wake up and realise we need to support each other not fight each other.. if not for our own pride then do it for our childrens….
    p.s Samy u Suck..!

  38. magician says:

    If you like Singapore, go there and don’t come back. GET OUT!!!

  39. Deewa says:

    Why should we get out? Why should we leave? Certain group of people would want us to leave as they might feel threatened. Some might say that because they feel hopeless by the current situation in Malaysia.
    Running away from a problem is not the best way to solve a problem. In fact, how many of us can actually leave the country?
    If you start running away from this problem, then we have to run around whenever we face a problem in another place or country.
    We should always keep in mind that no one(Mr.Magician) have the right to tell us not to fight our rights.
    We should stick together and fight for our rights even if we could not last to see it,Always bear in mind that if we fight for our rights now, our children might have a bright future that we(the current and the past generation) had always crave d for.
    Good day

  40. Kelley says:

    Blatant Lies says the prime minister. If so why doesn’t he show prove that the issues raised by Hindraf are lies by showing records. How can he says his government has treated all rakyat fairly when in his position he should know this is not the case. You could ask anyone in the street they all know we have never been treated as the citizen of this country. So many Indian and chinese children after obtain excellent results never got any scholarship but their good bumiputra friend who did not do well at all got fully paid scholarship. Our university is not doing so well. Well if you enrols only the very best I don’t think the universities would have done so badly. Lastly I am so glad wish to thank Hindraf for so bravely voicing out out problems. May god bless and keep all the lawyers save. May the lord watch over you. THANK AGAIN

  41. thamilan says:

    Hi, just read in Singapore papers that all Indians flying out from Chennai MUST get visa approval before hand while those from other Indian cities can get apply for visa on arrival.
    How low can one government stoop.Show how low Malaysian govenment ministers can go. What kind of shit is this. It’s discrimination man! What is botak velu going to do about this. I remember sometime back he was sucking up to Jayalalitha and Karunaneethy.
    Disgusting and shameful

  42. ray says:

    actually i don’t like singapore… just australia or new zealand… the mayor of melbourne is a chinese… do u think that can happen in this racist country…!
    so much proof of corruption but wat is done.. nothing.. except pray to god to forgiveness…
    shit.. its not even about race or religion… its about being fair.. its about tell us there’s a place in this country for us…
    we talk about islamic country… to me thats not a problem coz i am a christian but i think the real islamic values r good.. unfortunatly they r not inforce.. we have corrupt leaders that r not punish for the shit they do.. wat does that teach everyone else… look at deros or that senator that said he didn’t teach his kid to cheat properly…..! where does an islamic country fit in there…? yes short skirt + airasia are more important issues right… sic..!
    mr magician u r either a bumi or a MIC kipas bontot guy… hahah u r such a moron… its not about us wanting to leave but having to b’coz we as in indians will never get proper education or jobs in this country… don’t talk to me about ananda krishnan.. he is just 1 rich indian… besides baldy… there more rich malays datuk and chineses towkays in malaysia then rich indian and that a fact.. opps forgot MIC cronies also rich wat…!
    if u can arrange a migration to australia or new zealand pls let me know coz i would be on the next plane out of here biatch…!

    p.s Samy is still suck..! and magician so do u..!

  43. ray says:

    sorry abit of a mistake there

    wat i want to say was

    Samy u still suck and magician so do u…!

  44. jayz says:

    MP: edited.

    to all MIC supporters, who leave a comment on this side… BACK OFF!!! ********* as usual.. Be a nice puppy…chu!chu!chu!

  45. magician says:

    Lol! Jangan marah la sumua. Apa lu cakap pun I tarak rasa apa pun. I senyum saja 🙂 Tadi I baru baca Uthaya punya surat kpd Gordon Brown. I rasa dia ni memang sudah mabuk Toddy la. You orang pun suka toddy bukan? Lagi mau minum itu toddy lagi mau blame kerajaan juga ka kenapa biar itu toddy shop di tempat Indian tinggal. Itu memang logic lah. It does not take a Rocket Scientist to figure that one out. Ada demand, ada toddy la!

    Hidup Samy Velu. You are of a high value to Malaysia. Hindraf semua…Poooraaahhh!!!! Semua gangster. Tarak kerja lain, mau bikin kacau saja.

    Yang tak suka negara ini tu boleh cepat-cepat apply foreign citizenship. Australia ka, Singapore ka, India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, USA. Tinggal sini lama-lama pun sibuk saja. Suka jadi gangster. Ajar anak-anak jadi gangster, mak bapak semua gangster. Curi barang, tipu company. Ingat orang semua tak tau ka?

  46. Banker says:

    ray up there said, “the mayor of melbourne is a chinese… do u think that can happen in this racist country…!”

    My answer is, the Chief Minister of Penang is Chinese. That’s even a higher post than a mayor. Get yourself educated before you post something stupid. Or are you drunk with Toddy as what magician just said? Lord knows. :))

  47. Tambi says:

    Banker, to ad to your list, the new Minister for Climate Change and Water in Australia is one Ms Penny Wong, from all places, Malaysia. Sabah to be exact.

  48. Tambi says:

    I used to work in the Construction Insudtry in Malaysia in the mid 90s. Whenever a brige collapsed, a road got washed away or a land slide occurred, the joke around the office was that Sammy tiga suku had struck again.

    Why tiga suku, you may ask? Givernment gives him money to build bridge, he spends tiga suku on bridge and the remaining satu suku masok straight into his kocek, or as I would like to think, hides under his ugly toupee.

    I am sure that most Malaysians can judge how much substance there was to believes like this.

    Therefore, please don’t vote that pandi ada chi into parliament so he can have another term Naay Pula Umbu.

  49. Samy Vellu says:

    Hello sumua kaum India di Malaysia! Apa susah-susah? You mau apa? Talipon saya jugah 019-216 5555.

  50. Samy Vellu says:

    HIDUP SAYA!!!