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He said of the 523 Tamil schools in the country, 180 are fully-aided schools, while the remaining were partially-aided, of which 66 schools have been rebuilt through government and private funding.
“We are going to rebuild another 160 Tamil schools with the help of the government,” he said.
On temples, Samy Vellu said only temples that were built or extended on private land without government approvals were demolished and not hundreds of temples as claimed by Hindraf.
If temple already existed before indepedence, can application be made after building constructed? How many application has been made and rejected so far? What happened to the committee to monitor temple issues under DBKL and Perak govt?
On allegations of mistreatment of estate workers, Samy Vellu said the number of Indian estate workers had dwindled drastically, with only about 20 per cent still engaged in the plantation sector, while the rest have migrated to urban areas. “The MIC has been helping these people to get jobs and houses in towns,” he said, adding that in Kuala Lumpur alone, out of 5,000 squatters, the MIC, with the help of the Kuala Lumpur City Hall, has secured 2,000 units of houses.
BERNAMA
KUALA LUMPUR, Sun.:
MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu is willing to meet the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf), a non-governmental organisation, to iron out Indian community issues and unresolved matters.
He said he was ever ready to meet any individual or organisations who were unhappy with the alleged shoddy treatment accorded to the Indians or wanted to resolve the community’s problems.
“I am always ready to listen to their views and explain to them the efforts taken by the government in resolving the woes of the Indian community,” the Works Minister said when asked by reporters if he was willing to meet Hindraf officials.
Hindraf, said to be aligned to an opposition party, submitted an 18-page memorandum to the Prime Minister’s office last Sunday on what it alleged as the marginalisation of the Indians by the government.
It also called for an end to the special privileges given to the Malay community.
While stressing that Hindraf had not approached him for a meeting, Samy Vellu said he was willing to meet them to discuss only matters concerning the Indian community.
Samy Vellu also rebutted some of the allegations made by Hindraf that the government had neglected Tamil schools and demolished hundereds of Hindu temples.
“There is no truth to such thing and I have the figures to substantiate them. Please do not make wild allegations,” he said.
He said of the 523 Tamil schools in the country, 180 are fully-aided schools, while the remaining were partially-aided, of which 66 schools have been rebuilt through government and private funding.
“We are going to rebuild another 160 Tamil schools with the help of the government,” he said.
On temples, Samy Vellu said only temples that were built or extended on private land without government approvals were demolished and not hundreds of temples as claimed by Hindraf.
“There is a limit to accusations. We must have an open mind and see things clearly,” he said, adding that the MIC has sought fresh applications for government grants to build and rebuild more temples.
On allegations of mistreatment of estate workers, Samy Vellu said the number of Indian estate workers had dwindled drastically, with only about 20 per cent still engaged in the plantation sector, while the rest have migrated to urban areas.
“The MIC has been helping these people to get jobs and houses in towns,” he said, adding that in Kuala Lumpur alone, out of 5,000 squatters, the MIC, with the help of the Kuala Lumpur City Hall, has secured 2,000 units of houses.
i think .. we need a new leader now.
someone have to replace samy vellu.
we need someone who is active and not selfish.
I guess we need a new leader too. Pls do understand our needs and rights as a Malaysian.
We dun hav anything in this country.
HIDUP HINDRAF….My full support for our INDIAN’s
Yes!!!U are right Warren n I agreed with you..Time to change our MIC leader. We want some one who really looks into Indians problems and needs.
Well i was waiting for this day to happen, the indian s have received their enlightment. Time to show we can change. Don’t vote for MIC, choose those who will look into your plight……. The cards are in your hands
we indians will joining hand together with hindraf ,,,time to change,time to new revolution,time to malaysian indian to get what they supposed to get,thank you hindraf for awakening this spirit among indiand to fight for our rights.We want new formulation,new implementation and new evaluation.ETHU NADAKAPOGIRATHO ATHU NANDRAGEVE NADAKUM,,,,LET THE GOD TOGETHER WITH US,,,,HINDRAF IS GOOD AND GOOD IS GOD,,
Yes i agreed with u all…>we must change our MIC leader……>all friends join with us in British Commision..>
Yes, I agree we have to change our MIC leader, time has come for us to have a new and dynamic leader who has the Indian’s welfare at heart. But how are we going to do this without being a member of MIC and making the difference.Most of us including me are not MIC memebers but we want change. The BN ruling party only recognises MIC as the party representing the Indian Community and Uncle Sam is very happy just with the small numbers he has in the party who always votes him in based on blind loyalty. If you want to make a difference then join them and make the difference. Work from within. Iam.
TAMILAN ENDRU SOLLADA TALLAI NIMIRRINTHU NILLADA
VALGA CAPTAIN P.UTHAYAKUMAR
VALARGA INDIAYA SAMUTHAYAM
Say no to MIC, all indian get together to create unique and dynamic Tamilan community for Malaysian Indian. Please don’t fight amoung us, be together for us and our future.
i agree with u all. we must fight for ur future. we need a new leader for us. lets fight for that.
ABAD KE 21 ADALAH “BELONG TO OUR HINDIAN”
GOOD….GO HEAD…..
yessss!!!!! i agree with u all…… we must fight for indian n our future…….. VALGA TAMIL VALARGA TAMIL SAMUTHAYAM………
I disagrred with HINDRAF..we got a/thing in this country…go samy go sammy….
only u the greatest leader…
saya no to HINDRAF..
Hi alls….
What can I saya..
We have a good leader..better go n discuss with him…not by this illegal rally…
HINDRAF just to destroy our own future generation..believe me…
if we have any troules, better we discuss together among us….
Not by this provocation..
jus leave HINDRAF…
only waste our time!!!
Thanks Brother as you mention this words
TAMILAN ENDRU SOLLADA TALLAI NIMIRRINTHU NILLADA
VALGA CAPTAIN P.UTHAYAKUMAR
VALARGA INDIAYA SAMUTHAYAM
Not say only, we net together this sunday show that we
are indian- we want all friends join with us in British Commision..>
If we are in right tack…no body can’t stop…
belive or not..
getting the indian united? how the hell are we going to get the indian united when we the small population has so many indian parties? mic, ipf,pp and now the new mic party? gaduh sikit tubuh parti baru, mesyuarat maika baling2 kerusi, and now talking about fighting for indian rights… what is this hindraf trying to fight for by rallying in front of british embassy? misled our ancestor to come to malaya? what if our forefathers didn’t come to malaya at the first place? can we have the same type of living we have here in motherland India? thank god our forefathers came to malaya, if not we are subjected to much more severe caste discrimination in India… all i can sense that this Hindraf is trying to misled Indians with their own political agenda… little Napolean perhaps… if some of us regret that our forefathers came to malaya, they can always packed their back and go to India, see if the Indians there welcome them or not!
I totally agree with you… Let it be MIC, IPF, PPP, etc and now Hindraf. Let look at facts, nobody likes Datuk Sam but since Hindraf came into the picture everyone is supporting them now. But did anyone of us really asked ourselves what we really wanted.
Hindraf rallied with good intentions but otherwise provoked the Opposition. What happen now is 3 parties are facing a serious problem among them to whom is suppose to rule accordingly.. which will cause us the citizens lot of problem.
I do not think India is going to welcome us eventhough we are Indians. Let look at it.. our way of life and the Indians in India.. can we adjust ourselves to their way of lifestyle when we cannot do that in our own place!!
What Hindraf did is not wrong but there should have been a better way of doing it. Our people always look for opportunity – if A says this is good they join A, if B says this is better they join B and so on.. Think……. use your brains which GOD has given and we can always join hands as Indians for anything – peacefully.
For instance, when AMMA came to Malaysia a huge Indian crowd was there to see and get her blessing. Same.. we can gather to worship and pray for a good leader to guide and assist the Indian Community.
Should we want to do a gathering, we can but do it for a good purpose!!
Vart lahh! All Dissss! New leader also same lah. Hindraf or no hindraf also same lah. Try to maintain our country’s peace & harmony. That is more important lah.
MP: AS long as no junk posting, spam, vulgarity, and extreme personal attacks etc., i wont edit your comments. Does it mean no freedom of speech? i guess so.
Deyy Hindraf! Extremism has no place in our society. You want to hand over your memo to the British HC? Just use FedEx or DHL. It’s faster and more importantly, SAFER & MORE PEACEFUL!. Stop this violent culure of taking it to the streets. You guys are a disgrace to the Indian community. I dare you moderator delete my comment as doing so will only proof that there’s no freedom of speech here. Chalo!
Hey… you did say the right thing.. Extremism has no place in our society.
Hindraf Leaders – please bear in mind that we as Indians would like to have our rights and not marginalised too but demostration no………….. we should not disgrace our own community.
We must not go and beg…. speak up openly. Everyone has the right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
I am a Malaysian Indian and I must say that without generalising, I find Malaysian Indians as a group are a pathetic lot!! Here are my reasons:
I am deeply ashamed at associating myself with you lot. Having lived abroad (in the UK) for the last 10 years, I was deeply bewildered and amused at the attempts by a group of shortsighted, misled and dare I say it, money-driven upholders of the law, to ‘extort’ HMG for the inherent failures in this community. This puerile and sanctimonious action to incite hatred is driven by a few who realise that the Indians are a vulnerable group of people. By using religion, it is not difficut to rally support. I am truly ashamed at the naievity of Malaysian Indians. Perhaps, this, more than anything else, is why the Indians will never better their social standing.
We all realise that there can be no positive outcome from this rally. There is no reimbursement for the community coming our way. The only outcome of this showdown is to firmly establish the fact amongst the rest of the Malaysian population that the Indians are deeply bitter about their past, have not moved on and perhaps also confirm that as Indians we will never get out of the rut of being impoverished socially, eduationally and financially.
Instead of standing in the blistering heat on Sunday, pretending to uphold the rights of Indians, I have a better idea. Stroll into a nearby library and educate yourselves. Don’t drown your sorrows in alcohol or a cacophony of Bollywood tunes, learn a new language or skill, try to succeed despite the obstacles you face. Demanding a few ringgit so you can buy a Proton is downright insulting.
Please have some self-respect. No one else would do it for you!!
…I reli do hope…that indians will get a better place to live…not possible for it to happen so soon..but at least in twenty years time..as long as it happens…not in this selfish country for another 1oo years…Nila..
haha….he is the useless ever leader n minister in malaysia i had ever met…….
pull him down…
everything is semi value by him but his pocket is full valued……..
wtf…..
MAn Samivellu is being a pain in the ass …being alligned under the government !! i think its tyme for us to make a decision now !!! Change him !! he should circumsize n turn to an umno leader !! such a disgrace to the indian cummunity !!!!!!
His malay suckz !! he is more of an embaressment then a proud product ! he should resign !! his time is up!!
To all Malaysian Indians who happen to read this posting of mine, i would like you to reconsider your alliance with this HINDRAF body, or so called upholder of your rights here in Malaysia. Although i do agree with a few here that the MIC has indeed failed miserably in taking care of the needs of the Malaysian-Indian community, i believe the rally organized by HINDRAF tomorrow morning in Kuala Lumpur is not the ideal platform to voice out your dissatisfaction towards MIC and the constant discrimination towards your race. With the General Elections approaching, it is obvious that this HINDRAF body is being manipulated by people who have their own political agenda (whether HINDRAF realises it or not) to garner support. As a Malaysian Indian myself, i would like to advise the youths especially to stay away from this illegal gathering. Say no to street demonstrations, embrace a peaceful life through diplomatic solutions.
I thought about it and you said it very well……… whether people out there understands and welcomes this message or not, I do!!
The older generation must teach their children : what is respect/moral, etc as most of the children now does not know that..
We should educate our people first rather that rallying in the streets which resulted lots of ill feeling, mis-treatment, anger, injuries….
Harmony and peace is want we want and do your duty as a citizen will will come..
Dear friends it’s important that we listen to the speeches made by UMNO delegates during their assembly. It’s funny that our so call Indian leaders are happy with the outcome of the speech. MIC leaders have sold all our rights to the UMNO and the Government. HINDRAF is helping us to get it back. I hope it’s not only for the Hindus because I’m Indian Christian.
Indians in the Rubber and Palm oil estates… can someone get statistics of number of children born to the Indian families in the estates are deformed or mentally retarded since 1960’s. Go and visit the Oil palm estates in Carey Island estates in Semenyih and all palm oil estates. You will be surprise. What kind of help have they received? What was the reason or reasons behind this sort of birth?
If you go to the smaller towns near the estates the shopper owners are allowed to sell SAMSU (alcoholic beverage design specially to destroy the Indian community) still being sold. The government and the STUPID MIC leaders are not bothered. Let the estate fellows suffer and die.
Alongs will come the house end of every month and collect father’s salary….. and the poor children suffer. They don’t even have money to spend during their break.
If these poor children go to National schools they are look and treated differently and the teachers automatically switch on inactive role and pay very little attention to our estate children.
My friend have we forgotten our Mont Everest mountaineer. What happen to him and what about his wife and children during the episode?
The greatest failure of the ruling party is their education system and policies. They have screwed our education system to glory. Our children can not compete with those of the same age in Singapore. Look at our current education Minister he said the Indian Teachers and students not to attend this rally in front of the British High Commission or face stern action, but it’s OK for an education Minister to kiss a “keris” in front of the nation. Not an intelligent man, reflect on poor education policies…….
Please look at the Cabinet and the government they are more corrupt leader than the whole of the police force put together. How can we elect fools to lead the country that we all love?
To Partly Indian
“getting the indian united? how the hell are we going to get the indian united when we the small population has so many indian parties? mic, ipf,pp and now the new mic party? gaduh sikit tubuh parti baru, mesyuarat maika baling2 kerusi, and now talking about fighting for indian rights… what is this hindraf trying to fight for by rallying in front of british embassy? misled our ancestor to come to malaya? what if our forefathers didn’t come to malaya at the first place? can we have the same type of living we have here in motherland India? thank god our forefathers came to malaya, if not we are subjected to much more severe caste discrimination in India… all i can sense that this Hindraf is trying to misled Indians with their own political agenda… little Napolean perhaps… if some of us regret that our forefathers came to malaya, they can always packed their back and go to India, see if the Indians there welcome them or not!”
Indians have much more freedom in India than anywhere else. What to say if you would love to be slave than being poor in the country of your forefathers. Being poor or rich in India is in your hands. It is not easy to start from scrap for anyone. When you go back to India you have nothing in hand and that is why you got to blame British and not Indians. British is responsible for so many things bad that has happened to India, its own citizens and the Indians abroad.
Whether this rally is good or not I do not know. It would be nice if things are worked out peacefully.
“The suit is equivalent to US$1mil (RM3.4mil) for every Indian in Malaysia.” The Star…
Lol! If your forefathers didn’t come to Malaya 150 years ago, you would be nowhere today. Be realistic and do not become the laughing stock of this nation.
what about the indian in PPP. kavyeas ! wat is your stand !
A race that depends on handouts will never be a strong race. We Malaysian Indians shd strive. We must be 100% better than the next man. We will get nothing in the streets fighting demonstrating. We will have to show that we are a hard working race, our destiny is in the making not in the asking. We must be valued in the quality of our service where ever we are than we will be in demand not by shouting in street demonstration. Dont envy the Bumi’s if they want to be weak with special benefits so be it. We shd labor and shape our destiny. Just do what ever positive you are doing, better. Change will come one day. Remember we can create an economy within the Indian community. No point fighting, the government does not owe us a living. We owe our selves a living. Think about it. There is work no one will go hungry. If a million foreign workers can come here and find work , why not we . Success and wealth begins with hard work and wealth gained thru hard work stays. Please do get angry with what I said.
For those who says,what the Indian’s are doing is wrong, let me tell you! you guys got no “balls”. Have you ever worry about the temples they have destroyed? what would you do if they did that to your house. The problem with our Malaysia Indians are “TIDAK APA ATTITUDE”. What MIC doing? TIDUR…?
Come On lah… GUY… DO YOU ALL HAVE THE BALL’S FOR A CHANGE OR NOT….?
i think .. its a time for a new leader now…
Our leader is to old to think and act..
Sorry, there was a typo error in my comment. I meant please do not get angry with what I said.
Yo! guys lets not point finger at the rubbish that have been dumped by irresposible dumbs.They have been cheating,manipulating and being selfish.
Oophs! they have been preparing dumbs to take over leadership. Smart guys join them all start becomig dumbs and idiots.
Guys, lets go all out and teach them a lesson that they are here to have our trust and serve us not to make money invest in Australia and India. Anyway how many Malaysian Indian companies got infra projects in India thru MIC?
Live cycle have come to an end for some time now..
Lets get together, I’m amased with the courage Hindraf have shown
MP: i suggest you visit jeffooi’s site and also other blogs/websites. try these first:
http://www.jeffooi.com/2007/11/hindraf_rally_ethnic_minority_1.php
http://www.jeffooi.com/2007/11/hindraf_rally_ethnic_minority.php
http://www.aljazeera.net/english
Hindraf has shown everyone their true colours- STREET GANGSTERISM. This is what they are really good at. NO WONDER WHY THEY ARE SO BEHIND.
hidup Hindraf.. I am happy that there is a party fighting for the Hindu community..I fully support Hindraf. The government should not take us for granted and exploit us. Hinduism is stronger than ever…
Dear All,
We are voicing out our dissatisfaction towards our government that too in a peaceful way…
We didnt burnt our national…
We do it in a proper way, so sad that our police force who had acted violently using the tear gas n water cannons..
I dont u’tand this one thing, y do they prevented us from giving the petition to the British commision far more terrible prevented us from going near the place itself(do anybody hv got any idea???)..
If it is true like some had said that m’sian goverment have lended helping hand to our malaysia indians, y r they scared with hindraf’s action…
Let Hindraf do their duty..
Dear All, we r not going against our government but we r trying to to bring this issues to the attention of our government, So pathetic they r not allowing us to do so..
This is not for MONEY, but this is for our FORTHCOMING INDIAN GENERATIONS!
VAAZHA INDIARGAL, VAAZHGA HINDRAF….
Whatever comments I see here I’m not bothered. I’m with Hindraf. Who is fighting for our rights? MIC? PPP? You guys dont have ears and eyes to realise whats happening in Malaysia or what. Whats wrong to demand our rights? Are we beggars in this country just because our forefathers came from India?
Sit back and think. Its not too late anyway. Election on the way so decide wisely and do what needed for Indians inclusive our future generations.
Sorry to intervene into your hot discussions. I am a middle age Malay guy staying in Ipoh Perak. I have no comments to be given but just to highlights my interest in the heated discussions iniated in this blog. Sorry to say that I am not on any parties either Hindraf nor Mr Sam (from Sg Siput). But what pulls me to the discussions are the quality of ideas given by all the commentators and this has made my stand a bit shaky and I realise that we should respect everybody in terms of their ideology. Regards. Mohd. Ipoh.
Malaysia summa aateretele….>
support our HINDRAF….>
valga Udayakumar……….>.
Hi
Its time we awaken the others and show our greiviances. HIDUP HINDRAF… fight for our rights . the useless samy vellu is not doing anything. Close down MIC and gang…useless people. Greedy for money and wealth only for self!
we are frustrated, we cannot stand these nonsense anymore
valga Udayakumar
WHEN UMNO YOUTH SENDS PETITION…NO TEAR GAS OR WATER CANON BUT WHEN ANYONE ELSE DOES THE SAME… SUDDENLY ITS A PROBLEM…
TEAR GAS FIRED IN TO BATU CAVES…??
I LOVE MALAYSIA BUT HATE THOSE CORRUPT SOB THAT THINK THEY CAN CHEAT AND MISTREAT US AS THEY WISH… THIS IS NOT A INDIAN OR MALAY OR CHINESE ISSUES… THIS IS ABOUT CERTAIN LEADERS THAT FEEL THEY ARE NOT ANSWERABLE TO ANYONE…!
OUR FORMER PM ONCE SAID THAT THE PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN MARGINALIZED AND MISTREATED IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND THAT IS WHY THEY RESORT TO SUICIDE BOMBING AND KILLING OF THE JEWS..
NOW INDIANS ARE BEING TREATED THE SAME WAY…
NOT SO APPLICABLE NOW THAT ITS IN YOUR OWN BACK YARD IS IT ??
PPL IN UMNO CAN SAY RACIST STATEMENTS NO PROBLEM..
ANYONE ELSE …. ISA….!
AND U WANT TO CALL THIS AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY ??
THIS TUTUP SATU MATA, DEROS AND I TAK AJAR ANAK SAYA MCM MANA NAK TIPU BETUL COUNTRY…
SAMY YOU’RE NO BETTER YOURSELF…. THE INDIAN PPL ARE CRYING OUT FOR HELP…
U JUST KEEP GETTING RICHER… YES I STILL REMEMBER RM27,000.00 ON FLOWERS JUST FOR YR KIDS WEDDING… I THINK U MAKE TOO MUCH FOR THE SO LITTLE THAT U DO…
All the shit of each leader trying to be a public hero, Once had he became the leader, he or she wil be the next Mr. Samy, so what are you people trying to do is wrong and there is nobody to help. If you have a house (your own) and can feed your children (plus you & wife) full daily meal in this Country is very good enough. So why the photo “placard” of Mahatma Gandhi doing in Malaysia You should be proud of youself been a Malaysian Citizen and no Indian citizen (which you would be one of thousands living in poverty in INDIA which is been ruled by the high class people and in Malaysia whether you pariah, kulchi or what ever the respect is still there and your neighbours malay chinese punjabi (excluding bangla nepalese negro)living happily provided we respect of each others right. So THINK, have a peaceful life ahead here, SO what HINDRAF, BERSIH, MIC, BN PAS DAP or what it is can and cannot do for us but for themselves only.
Malaysia summa aateretele….>
support our HINDRAF….>
valga Udayakumar……….>.
oth for uthayakumar……….>
don’t oth for barisan nasional
Whomever is replacing Samy is going to be well…errr the next Samy. No different. With your kind of political style e.g. baling-baling kerusi, discrimination among castes, there’s no doubt that the next leader will do whatever it takes to cling on to his power & position a.k.a. Samy Vellu style. The problem is not UMNO, Abdullah Badawi, MIC, MCA or what not. Go to the bathroom. Look carefully into the mirror. No, you can’t find the problem there. Now take your clothes off, look again into the mirror. There’s your problem!!! It all lies within yourselves. While other people are busy sending their children to extra tuition classes and going to libraries in droves, you pathetic people chose to create havoc, violence and hatred. Assuming that Queen Elizabeth is at the same level as you street protesters, which is highly unlikely, the first person to benefit out of this compensation is the lawyer, not the estate people. Yesss! A good lawyer is a good liar. Think about it.
yes thats quite true… i want to be the leader too.. i want to be a politician… lantik lah aku parti tak cukup makan bukan gerakan tau
dey everybody don’t support hindraf.support our mic leader Datuk Sami Vellu.Hidup Sami Vellu.hidup Malaysia.
Good Job HINDRAF keep it up. We fully support u.
We fight for our rights.
Sami Vellu is very self fish person. He live in peace and without worry in Malaysia but how is other Indians. Goverment never provide anything to publicity everything delay. And very shame to tell other country that MALAYSIA is “Demokratik”. Publicity cannot do anything without goverment permission we need to bribe them and close with them in order to earn money. Economic turn worst and they still spend publicity money to create ASTRONUT we should use the money to help those need. So Mr Astronut what you will do to publicity sigh been invest by goverment to the aero space? Malaysia Goverment should spend the money to rebuild some of the public place to attract more tourist and our education. Some of them is talented because of skin colour they have been ommited to university. Take a look there is nothing in Malaysia we should proud.
all the members of the indian the indian communioty,to teach a lesson to this people, by only voting for the oppositions! get going and not talking!!!
Hi! I am an Indian from India, mind you, not and Indian from Malaysia. I only have one thing to say…LONG LIVE SAMY VELLU!!!!