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Plan to remove Hindu temples and crematorium in KL

August 20th, 2008
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It is very distressing to read Malaysian Hindu Sangam’s statement that temples in KL are not shown in KL 2020 Master Plan. Not only that, two existing crematoriums are also not included. Perhaps there are “plans” to relocate them but not such information have been provided by anyone yet.

If one remembers well, even a school was removed from the plan. SJKT Ladang Bukit Jalil won’t be around in 2020. Not sure where it will be as my guess is as good as yours.

Do anyone still remember that MIC was supposed to study the plan. Can they do it by 2020? Or are they the one who informed MHS about this anomaly since being part of the coalition, they can’t rock the boat?

Below is the statement from MHS president (the MCCBCHST should also issue a statement):

More than 120 temple representatives present at a meeting organized by Malaysia Hindu Sangam at the Dewan Tan Sri K R Soma, KL yesterday were shocked that their temples and 2 existing Hindu Crematoriams were not identified at the master Plan
of City of Kuala Lumpur by 2020.


What is of great concern to the community leaders is whether there is a plan to erase off hundreds of Hindu Temples and 2 crematoriams at Jalan Loke Yew and Sentul by the year 2020.


There was a feeling of disappointment and disgust when they were briefed on the Master Plan. They were informed that they have to send their note of protest using the appropriate DBKL Form by 30th August 2008. About 100 forms were distributed at the meeting.

Briefings were made by MHS President Datuk A.Vaithilingam, IT Consultant Mr. Chin Meng Sun, MHS Temples Advisor Ir Ariathavaratnam, MHS Temples Affairs Committee Chairman Mr. G.gunaraj and Bukit Jalil Social worker Mr. Thiagarajan. All those who are not able to obtain the DBKL Master Plan Books are requested to go online and visit www.klcityplan2020.dbkl.gov.my and try and identify the location of their temple. It does not matter whether the temple is registered with ROS or with our MHS or is said to be illegal and of the temple is not identified in the plan please get the forms from DBKL or ring 012-392 5995 (Mr. Gunaraj), 012-328 7823 (Mr.Chin), 016-3674304 (Mr. Thiagaraj) or 016-277 1495 (Ir. Ariathavaratnam) for advice or on how to obtain the forms.

All temples are advised to immediately submit their protests to DBKL and send a copy of the protest form to Malaysian Hindu Sangam at No. 67, Jalan PJS 1/48, Taman Petaling Utama 7, 46150 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Fax 03-77847304
.

All protests must reach DBKL by 30th August 2008
.

Dated 20th August 2008


Datuk A Vaithilingam

President
Malaysia Hindu Sangam

MAHA 2008

August 15th, 2008
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Its been a busy week, and will get busier next week as more things get in motion. Nope, nothing about national scenario, but on personal front. Really can’t find time to blog for last 2 days.

Anyway, just a short note – makkals should make an effort to visit MAHA expo being held at Serdang near UPM). Its from 11th till 23rd August 2008. Opens daily from 10am till 7pm, except on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays where it is extended till 9pm (just announced yesterday).

With school holiday around the corner, it will be good to expose kids and youths to world of agriculture business. Try to go early because one day won’t be enough to explore the place. Wear good shoes for a lot of walking. A LOT.

Minnal FM have been airing advertisement on MAHA, so I hope more people will visit it. Drop by all the goverment department booths to get as much info as possible on grants, loans, subsidies, tax incentives, technologies, R&D etc.

Interested in goat-rearing, leech farm, mushroom farm, vermi-compost (learnt that word recently!), aquaculture etc? Get moving to MAHA.

Sad to say that not many makkals are visible there. And no Indian/Chinese-run food stall at the food court in block D (over 50 stalls!). I just had roti bakar (quite OK) for breakfast and skipped lunch due to the huge crowd.

Oh ya, saw Deputy PM Najib yesterday enjoying a cuppa at MADA (or was it KADA?) booth.

My short note looks longer now.

Police tortured 10 year old?

August 13th, 2008
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Now, I’m not sure how to believe this story. If ever this is true, it can be turned into racial discrimination, human rights, and child abuse issues by those interested. It would mean the total disintegration of the police force’s integrity.

The boy is only 10 years old. The parents were not informed. There was no social/welfare officer for the duration of the “questioning” session. Thus the police officers in charge should be sacked. The school did not inform the parents (not reported in the news). This would mean severe disciplinary action against the HM or teacher in charge – possibly demotion and suspension.

Weird enough, there is no coverage on any attempts by the parents to locate the boy who have been missing for 10 hours. Any police report made? Did the parents go to school to inquire why son never came back?

Read the story below:

IPOH: A primary schoolboy is claiming that police from the Kampar station had slapped him, choked him and scalded his leg to make him confess to a theft.

Parti Sosialis Malaysia (PSM) deputy chairman M. Sarasvathy, who took up his case, handed over a memorandum on the matter to the Perak police yesterday.

She said that last Wednesday, police picked up N. Logeswaran, 10, from his school for suspected theft, and slapped him on his face while two policemen tried to choke him.

“They even tried to melt some plastic on the boy’s private parts and it got his leg,” said Sarasvathy outside the Perak police contingent headquarters here.

The police also took out a parang and a pistol to threaten the boy, she said, adding that Logeswaran was also handcuffed and locked up in a dark room.

“He is now traumatised by the incident, said Sarasvathy, adding that he suffered injuries on the back of his head, wrists and leg after the ordeal.

On Aug 5, Logeswaran was accused by his teacher of stealing her purse containing RM700, MyKad and other documents. But she could not find her belongings on Logeswaran and lodged a police report.

Logeswaran was picked up from his school at 12.30pm last Wednesday and was only released at 10.45pm the same day. His parents were not informed about the incident.

He was taken to the Kampar Hospital at 11pm after complaining of headaches and after he started vomiting, said Sarasvathy. He was transferred to Hospital Raja Permaisuri Bainun at midnight for observation and was discharged on Monday.

Sungai Siput MP Dr D. Jeyakumar said the police should have followed proper guidelines in handling cases involving a child.

Perak police chief Datuk Deputy Comm Datuk Zulkifli Abdullah, when contacted, said he had received the memorandum and that police were investigating the matter.

Rare interview with Subashini

August 13th, 2008
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Malaysiakini published a telephone and face-to-face interview with R Subashini, the wife of the convert who also converted their eldest son and planned to convert the second son. She denies reports about her converting, saying that someone pretended to be her and called Malaysiakini via handphone and also sent email – both which belong to her!

Anyway, if she converts for the sake of the children, no one can stop it. Who wants to be separated from their kids? However, it will be a big insult for Islam for creating a situation that forces a mother to convert.

By the way, I’m curious that Saravanan still keeps his name which signifies Lord Muruga. Is it not heresy?

The rest of the interview below:

Following a widely-publicised and emotionally-charged legal battle which had stretched for two years, R Subashini has finally decided to break her silence albeit with a little mystery thrown into the concoction.

The Hindu wife of a Muslim convert spoke to Malaysiakini yesterday, her first interview with the media since going to court over her marriage and custody of her children.

For safety reasons, Subashini had kept a low profile despite her highly publicised case as issues pertaining to religion are considered controversial and sensitive in this country.

The courtroom drama started when her husband T Saravanan, a businessman, converted to Islam in May 2006 along with their eldest son, Dharvin Joshua, aged 5.

Saravanan, who assumed the name Muhammad Shafi Saravanan Abdullah, then launched proceedings in the Syariah Court for a divorce as well as custody of their second son, Sharvin, 3.

Subashini fought her case right up to the land’s highest court late last year.

Her case was however thrown out on technical grounds, despite having secured a minor victory in the landmark judgment.

Her meeting with Malaysiakini yesterday came amid mysterious phone calls and an email from a woman who had identified herself as ‘Subashini’.

But the ‘real’ Subashini denied making calls or sent out an email on the matter.

In a telephone conversation with Malaysiakini on Monday, the ‘other’ Subashini revealed that she had patched up with her husband and could now visit her eldest son on a regular basis.

She also stated that she intended to convert to Islam soon so that the family could be together once again, adding that she would instruct her lawyers to withdraw all of her court actions.

The telephone conversation was later followed by an email, furnishing more details.

In her email, the ‘other’ Subashini said she had been in contact with her husband five months ago and was “happy at the moment” that she could be with her two sons and her husband.

“Can anybody be in my shoes and describe how happy I am? Or at least tell me, can money or fame bring you happiness?

“I carried both my sons for nine months and how can I just let anyone take away my babies from me? They are the only priceless wealth that I have and will have forever.

“My prayers and support from everyone have showed me a result but it depends how some individuals accept this but as for me, I’m honest and clear with my decision.

“I have built back my palace and I wouldn’t want it to be demolished,” read the email.

However, when met at her lawyer K Shanmuga’s office in Kuala Lumpur yesterday, the ‘real’ Subashini denied that she had telephoned Malaysiakini or sent the email.

But there was another twist.

The ‘real’ Subashini confirmed that the phone number and email address used by the ‘other’ Subashini were indeed hers.

The phone number was a newly registered mobile number but she had stopped using the email account, which was registered under her second son’s name.

“This email was definitely not from me,” responded Subashini when shown a copy of the message.

Clad in a pink baju kurung (Malay traditional attire) and wearing a red pottu (Hindu marking) on her forehead, the 30-year-old company secretary was in the dark as to who would have impersonated her.

“I don’t have (Malaysiakini’s) number, I don’t know who to contact, I don’t have Malaysiakini’s email address.

“I don’t know who is using my name. I don’t know who (did it), I don’t want to point (fingers) at anyone,” she said.

At the brief meeting, Subashini – who declined to be photograped – also refused to speak on the record over the current status of her marriage and her children.

“Not at the moment,” she replied with a smile when asked about this.

Later, her lawyer Shanmuga (left) said he had not received any instruction from his client to withdraw the legal actions.

“The Shah Alam High Court is scheduled to hear (Subashini’s) application for leave to quash the conversion of (eldest son) Dharvin on Aug 21,” said the lawyer.

“The Attorney-General’s Chambers is objecting to the application, stating that the applicant has to go to a syariah court,” he added.

The matter would be heard before judicial commissioner Mariana Yahya.

To another question, the lawyer said he had not received any instruction from Subashini to file a fresh application for divorce in the civil court after a similar application was ruled “premature and invalid” by the Federal Court in its landmark ruling last year.

At the time, the court rejected Subashini’s divorce petition – which sought maintenance and custody of her children – on technical grounds over the date of her petition which was within three months of her husband’s conversion date.

According to the law, the petition should be filed three months after the conversion date but Subashini’s application was filed about two weeks before the three-month period expired. The divorce petition was thus deemed null and void.

Nevertheless, she could file a fresh petition to seek the divorce.

In the same judgment, Subashini secured a minor victory as the Federal Court ruled that the syariah courts cannot dissolve a civil marriage.

The highest court ruled, in a 2-1 decision, that Saravanan could seek remedies in the syariah courts but cannot compel Subashini to do the same because she was a non-Muslim.

However, the court did not make clear the issue concerning the custody of the children as it also ruled that both the husband and wife could initiate custody proceedings in their respective jurisdictions.

Other articles related to Subashini and conversion problem can be searched in this blog.

Update of forum attack by thugs (3)

August 11th, 2008
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Samy Vellu gave his response on the forum fiasco. He agrees that the forum should be held indoors and in private:

“There should be a more sensible approach to settle the issue and it should not be debated in public.”Such issues should be discussed behind closed doors where Muslims and non-Muslims can raise their grievances. The public forum on Saturday did not benefit any party and angered certain groups.”

He also mentioned that the subject of conversion was discussed at the last BN supreme council meeting while he was a minister (that’s at least 6 months ago). Prime Minister gave assurance to find a solution that will not hurt both parties. Election time, so anything goes.

Thus, Samy Vellu earns the distinction for being the first (and only?) non-Muslim leader who disagrees with the public forum being organised. Well done.

Utusan meanwhile carried calls for ISA (from certain party members) to be imposed on the forum organisers. The reports sounded one-sided since only one group people gave their views.

More amazing is the revelation by Ahmad Zahid that a civil-syariah joint committee being established under Prime Minister’s Department. He said that discussions have been made with Minister Zaid Ibrahim. The committee will focus on divorce, child custody, wealth allocation, etc. Now, the discussion for such cases is to be done out of court between the civil lawyer and syariah lawyer. The discussion CANNOT be revealed in public to avoid misunderstanding and public debate.

Read part 1 and 2.