finally, something that appeared on mainstream media (the NST) about the memorandum by HINDRAF. Just some hot air and no facts as usual 🙂
Samy Vellu hits back at Hindu Rights Action Force
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PUTRAJAYA, FRI:
MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu today launched a stinging attack against a non-governmental organisation, the Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF), which claimed that the Barisan Nasional (BN) government had done little to address the woes of the Malaysian Indian community over the last 50 years.
“I must state here that if there is anything that affects the Indian community, the MIC will be there to fight it out even when we are partners of the Barisan Nasional. To me, I have never remained idle and I don’t waste time,†Samy Vellu, who is also Works Minister, told Bernama today.
The MIC supremo was asked to comment on a 18-point memorandum by HINDRAF, which was handed to the Prime Minister’s office last Sunday by the organisation’s chairman P. Waytha Moorthy, secretary V.K Regu and its legal adviser P. Uthayakumar.
Apart from stating that the Indian community was marginalised by the BN government, in the memorandum, HINDRAF also wanted an end to special privileges given to Malays. The memorandum also took a dig at Umno asking the largest political party in the country to “stop playing politics” through the “mandore†(supervisor) system by dishing out aid to the Indian community on a piecemeal basis.
Well done Mr.Zainnuddin Yusri…your comment is really superb.I hope all Malaysian will realise the truth.Our PM alraedy in the high..now anybody talk about politics will not going jail but ISA.They want to hide the reality by threatening using weapon(ISA).
Think before going for voting.
zainudin yusri,
What will the stupid oppositions do? Worse?.. You bet!
They’re just some selfish beings.
There are many Indians in the gomen. I believe majority of Indians in Malaysia are proud to be Malaysians.
Think, talk & write objectively for our country’s prosperity. See the bigger picture, nationwide! & not simply follow those HP6 oppositions’ narrow & SELFISH own agenda mentality.
In actual fact & in reality, they really do not have any valid issues to bring-up at all! – thus, simply bringing up some stupid “sentiments”, either on race or religion, just to stir up our country to prepare THEMSELVES for the coming election!
They’re cheering & clapping their hands for many “sensitive” FOOLS can’t grasp the bigger picture of running a multi-racial, multi-religious country!! It is definitely not easy to run a country like Malaysia!
Thank god we have smart, moderate & very objective leaders of all races & religions, to steer our country to where it is now 50 years later – and, PEACEFULLY at it!
Btw, you oppositions always bring up the same corrupted people which is what? A dozen or two out of MILLIONS of BN members – don’t you even know that NO party is perfect?? NO country is perfect, & NO individual is perfect!
Think smart! Boleh? Terima kasih.
Peace, “Gandhi”.
1. Please register to be a voter and encourage everyone eligible to do so.
2. Vote intelligently and don’t be taken in by sweet words, threats and empty promises.
3. Vote for people who will represent you.
4. Work hard, strive for excellence.
5. Emulate our ancestors who came here with only the clothes on their backs.
6. Be strong in your faith in God and be God pleasers and not man-pleasers. Do not put hope in man. They are bound to disappoint you because they are only sinful mortals. Put hope in God first and then in our ourselves and our abilities.
7. Always look on the positive side. All these hindrances put in our paths by these ‘ppl’ should only make us strong and resilient not hopeless!
8. Look at the Jewish people, inspite of the numerous attempts to annihilate and exterminate them by Hitler, Stalin etc, they are still a great people.
Regards to all the Indians in Malaysia.
Ashok,
Please do not Shok Sendiri.
Peace.
Eagleyes,
Correct!
Cheers.
CALLING ALL THE SUCCESSFUL INDIANS IN MALAYSIA!
Now that you have done well and doing well, lets give something back to the Indian community which badly needs it.
1. Create Education Funds for the needy Indian students.
2. Teachers retired and working, mother, grandmothers should now coach, guide and motivate our children and students and instill a spirit of excellence in them.
3. Even if the successfulIndian has taken a Chinese spouse( I am seeing so many now) that doesn’t mean that you have become a Chinese or your children are Chinese. You are still an INDIAN period! Doesn’t your blood boil when you see another Indian being downtrodden!
4. Please do something positive. Stop all the name calling and stereotyping of Indians. Sivaji the Boss is only reel not real
5. Wake up INDIAN.
VALGA INDIAN!
MP: edited for profanity.
Samy u can **** off the seat,U planned the gang fight on the 25th Nov 2007.U even paid them to set up a fight.Ur team 08 sucks,,Please dun be the reason of our indians downfall.If u take care of the indians they wil take care of ur tittle and position.Dun be greedy for money and tittle.Its nothing.Ask ur 08 team to unite with other indian teams,See how badawis 30,36 and 77 is so united.Bleedy helllah u,
MP: you’re welcome. we hope to learn from each other and improve. that’s why being human is all about right?
Dear blog owner, Poobalan.
Namaste. Thank you for posting everyone’s comments.
Bottomline, we all SHOULD strive to continue to understand one another, and avoid vulgarities – including rallies!!…
As, in groups, people’s behaviour are beyond anyone’s control!!
Cheers! “Gandhi”.
Valgha Hindraf !
Dear Gandhi ,
You dont worried i wont mix up Religion with Politics.
I go to school before aslo.May be i am not higly educated as you But i understand the differences between Religion & Politics.
Thank You
Valgha Hindraf !!
MP: edited.
Uncle Samy,,open ur mind and try to use ur brainlah.U are an indian.There should be a pain in ur heart seeing our indians like this.Not goin ******** with Sheila Nair or Nagma.U dun evev have respect for ur self,,How u can be a leader uh?We are not asking u to go against the government but support us.Pleaselah uncle samy,,Please dun let the indians HATE U.And there is a short message for Dato M Kavyeas also.Uncle K,,wer r u and wat are you doin?
Pleaselah uncle samy,,change yourself..
Some More Advice To My Indian Makkals
Please ‘ration’ the Tamil Movies at home. Most of them put precious lives above honour and pride. No wonder children are commiting suicide just becoz of UPSR results not up to expectations ( parents?). For every little thing, the parang is being weilded in the movies. Violence shouldn’t be our part of our lifestyles. It was the non – violence that got India her Independence remember? Pray for the nation PLEASE. There is power in prayer.
God bless this nation and all its people
MP: the poll is over already. it was during buletin utama and not about sending indians to be detained under ISA.
URGENT!
PLEASE TYPE BU3 B and send to 32728 BY SMS COZ THERE IS A SUGGESTION TO PLACE DETAINED INDIANS UNDER ISA.
DO IT ASAP
A-AGREE B- NOT AGREE.& PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL UR FRIENDS AND INDIANS THAT’S U KNOW BY SMS OR E-MAIL.
stop all the nonsense and get back to work bros…its really useless to waste ur time…go work earn some money..feed ur family and live happily..no need rights all..its bulllshit
Too much watching tamil films… this is why some Malaysian Indians act like extras in tamil film. For me, if you watch tamil films, there one hero ( the perfect human )… the hero was strong because the “over acting extras” are too many to protect for the hero. This situation are same as the Hindraf Rallies.
For some Malaysian Indians… the reality are we are not in tamil films…even many Indian in Malaysia never been at India… If they have been at India… they will find that Malaysia is the most harmony country… The peacefully Malaysian must be keep ever by our Nation. Don’t let a situation that Malays/Chinese not interested to cut hair at the babers shop coz Indian was labeled as a racist .
gandhi,
The problem with our govt is….that our govt still let Zakaria goes free without prosecution when in the eyes of the public, Zakaria is caught doing illegal things and against the law is very suprising. I wonder if Pak Lah opens the newspaper everyday and saw Zakaria building a bangalow in a piece of illegal land and the bangalow have no permit whatsoever, and Pak Lah still remains quiet and silence….that’s very dangerous, it reflects that he encourage more corruption. We know corruption is everywhere but when it is within UMNO but you take no action then it is kind of amazing!!! So its our PM fit to run the country?? Answer is NO.
Some confirmation : So, rakyat especially the poor people including hardcore poor melayu, do you still want to vote the the corrupted govt??? I guess not, anyway we got so many corrupted govt servants in our country e.g. Samy Vellu and our Klang Assemblymen who build tons of bangalows on illegal land(you know who lar, our good friend Zakaria), why don’t the govt just bulldoze his bangalows just like our govt bulldoze the temples??? So wake up bumiputra, throw away your UMNO putra false status because the real con artist originates from UMNO cronies. One question, is Zakaria an UMNO member?? definately……
To death we stand by YOU, CAPTAIN UTHAYA
Rise the next Prabakaran. Lead our people to victory.If Sri Lanka had Praba, we here have Uthaya. God bless you with wise decisions and ideas and clarity of mind to lead us.
Zainudin, you are in out of real isues… your isues should be in Gempur Politik Maya…
Out of contents !
To the very Few of our brethren. Those who are quite happy cutting hair (barbers).And those very few linked to important people. You hate us for jeopardising your position. Really sorry my brothers.My daughter is 4 years old. She is quite bright. (dont all fathers feel the same!) 14 years time, she will need to go to Uni. Kindly help me to learn how to explain to a child who did better than others,that she misses out cos she indian. Anyone (got many) with sismilar experience, please share how you explained to your kids. Will help me be more prepared.
samy…. get lost man.. enough is enough.. ur a fraud.. ur a cheat.. LETS HAVE AN OPEN VOTE TO ELECT OUR PRESIDENT… LET THE PUBLIC VOTE AND NOT YOUR CRONIES….
If the govt cares for its people it should have let them voice their complain and take steps to remedy their grudges. Not fire tear gas at them, beat them up and treat them like animals. (Memorandum to the queen was a last desperate resort).
I’ve completely lost faith in this govt. It’s full of lies, greedy, selfish and has no respect whatsoever for human beings.
If I feel like I’m being shortchanged, mistreated and my voice subdued by an overbearing father (the govt),… I take steps to finally overcome my fear of him and decide to voice my protest, by telling my mother (because father has over the years been deaf and dumb to my plight). Imagine my shock and frustration when the father resorts to beating me up and telling the world that I’m a troublemaker.
This is especially hard when I know that I have contributed my sweat, tax and loyalty!! Where’s my share? I have children to take care. I want to prosper too!
I wonder how long UMNO is going to dupe the poor Malay folks and the rest of the world. The major portion of the country’s riches are kept by a greedy/selfish few, while the rest of the people are kept ignorant and gullible… at UMNO’s mercy.
As for rights, pablo, eagleyes, wait till your back(side) gets ripped off,… then you’ll respond.
I think we, each of us, should a captain Uthaya, and show our strength at the next polls. And not be duped again and again…. this govt is extremely corrupt.
Firstly, raced-based politics should be demolished and every citizen here given equal rights… and scrap the stupid privilege thing for one particular race.
And then, use the tax-payer money wisely to uplift the poorer part of the nation, and not do stupid things like touring outside the world.
gua sokong hindraf!pasal gua bodoh,tadak otak,kerja malas,tapi gua pun mau senang juga.jadi gua pun samun sana,samun sini,pukul sana,pukul sini,curi sana,curi sini,tipu sana,tipu sini.itu pasal gua boleh pakai kereta(no plat palsu daa!).gua punya keturunan memang suka kerja ini macam punya!jadi gua pun ikut sajalah.anyhow susah sikit mahu buat kerja macam ini, selalu kena kacau sama polis.itu pasal gua sokong hindraf.pasal ini hindraf sudah janji mahu tolong sama sayalah…hello hindraf!bila boleh dapat itu 1 million?
Since the poor are not being helped, Malaysians should stop paying income tax for 2008. All these money is going into the pockets of corrupt politicians
do u think that all participants in hindraf should thank to history of bringing out indians from india?if u think again, its better to live in malaysia than to live in India..i don think that indians will have chance to do this assembly in that country.otherwise, we will be killed by the police..or maybe our life will never be as good as wat we have now..think again frens..
salam bahagia kepada semua.Saya sebagai seorang warganegara menyokong tindakan yang di buat oleh Hindraf pada 25/11/2007.Kalau boleh bagila peluang kepada rakyat memilih kerajaan yang boleh membelah nasib kaum india di negara ini dan menghormati agama hindu di negara ini.Dosa yang dilakukan oleh BN ialah merobohkan kuil-kuil hindu di seluruh negara dan act……..semua kaum diberi hak bumiputera.Orang india juga korban untuk kemerdekaan negara.Bukan hanya orang melayu je korban untuk kemerdekaan negara.mengapah orang hanya orang melayu je diberi hak bumiputera????????????????????? why ape sebab??kalau kerajaan BN boleh beri sebab orang india akan diam kalau tak mereka akan melakukan perkara sebegini sampai mentuntut hak.
MP: edited.
Right? Hak asasi? ***** luuuu orang…. Hallooo ****…. lu ingat orang melayu nak diam jer ker?
Lu tulis lain hantar lain? Alllooooo kalu tak puas hati.. bungkus pakaian balik India… Kami pun muak tgk korang dah pun.
Korang cerita macam la datuk nenek korang dulu bagus sangat sebelum datang ke Malaysia ni… Wal hal datuk nenek korang tu datang Malaysia pun sebab merempat kat sana. Tak puas hati pegi balik India kalu rasa India ke Tamil Naidu ke bagus sangat.. Ala.. Ketua Menteri Tamil naidu tu pun kaki makan rasuha lagi dashyat.
Kalu korang tak puas hati, orang melayu pun tak puas hati bila korang ada kat sini peluang kita orang pun terhad. Abis macam mana? balik la apa lagiiiii….
Korang cakap pasal Hindu Right, Hak Asasi… apa ni apa Right yang korang nak? Ni aku paste kan surat dari Ketua *** korang tulis.
MP: i removed the letter since it is too long. readers can refer to it over here.
Samada korang dah kena tipu dek pemimpin ***** korang atau korang memang ****** kaki penipu…
I proud to be an Indian….
INDIAN BORN TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE N PEACEFULL…..
I HOPE ALL INDIAN COMUNITY IN THIS WORLD WILL SUPPORT TO HINDRAF IN MALAYSIA.
I N ALL INDIAN COMUNITY HOPE SAMY VELU WILL GIVE SUPPORT TOO…….. IF U NEVER FIGHT FOR INDIAN COMUNITY BETTER U DIE…
LIFE LONG INDIAN ‘S…….
i will give full support to HINDRAF …..
if i die also no problem….i will fight for justice…
always indian’s ……
valge tamil valge hindraf.poraduvom poraduvan.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,
I am a Malaysian citizen, and I am a subscriber of ASTRO Satellite TV Broadcast here in Malaysia. Recently I have subscribed to the ASTRO News Package which contains Al Jazeera and other foreign news media.
I was highly looking forward for the international news broadcast on all of the stations provided by the package when I had shocking news from our local news station claiming that the foreign news broadcasters are lying and making stories without properly acquiring the real facts and they are very good actors !!! Furthermore these claims were also made by our government’s politicians.
Now, this is rather disturbing and disappointing for me as I have only subscribed for the service for just a few days and I’m being bombarded with such claims. This eventually made me to think:
Am I an IDIOT to subscribe, pay and end up watching acts and lies
OR
Is there is any conspiracy going on here????
I clearly understand the fact that Al Jazeera has a strong principal called the Code of Ethics and you strictly follow it. But the claims by the politicians and local media here make me to think otherwise.
The claims below were broadcasted on 27-November-2007 in TV3 news station. Similar claims were also made in other local newscasters. This is just a few of the claims.
1. TV3 news station claimed that the foreign media cannot be trusted as they do not report the actual news.
2. YAB Datuk Sri Samy Velu claims that there were only 4,600 demonstrators on 25-November-2007 and NOT 50,000 or any other number as claimed by the foreign media.
3. TV3 news station said that the questions thrown at the Information Minister of Malaysia by Al Jazeera (Al Jazeera’s name was mentioned) was to purposely create a scene to show that Malaysia is in kiosk situation and Al Jazeera purposely built up the story from the real one. They also mentioned the criticism made by the Information Minister to Al Jazeera.
(Prior to sending the mail, I did some research on the net and actually found the video clip of the above Interview in Youtube. And I actually laughed myself out listening to the reply given by our Minister. Pity him for his language. But in the Malaysian news channel TV3, they only provided the “CLEAN” version of the transcript and the actual call was not aired. This makes me even more confused!!! Who is telling the truth here???)
Now, if Al Jazeera is telling lies,
It is high time for Al Jazeera to review back their Code of Ethics and provide the truth for the people. If you can’t do it then don’t cheat the entire world. And don’t broadcast your news at all. I am not a fool to keep paying for acts and lies.
And if Al Jazeera is NOT lying,
Well, what the heck. The damage has already been done. No one in Malaysia is going to listen to your news anyway due to the “VERY GOOD” publicity done by the Malaysian politicians and the local media. By the way, did I mention that our local media could also be received by our neighboring countries like Singapore and Thailand?
FINAL CONCLUSION
It is not my intension to insult Al Jazeera, other foreign media, our local media or the politicians. If you feel offended by this email, I sincerely apologize to you. Whatever the scenario is, all that I want (and the rest of Malaysian citizens who are in my situation want) is the truth. Since Al Jazeera’s and other foreign media’s names have been badly damaged here in Malaysia, Al Jazeera and the other foreign media’s SHOULD do something to fix it back or you may start loosing your viewer in Malaysia.(and its surrounding countries too)
I hope you could keep my details confidential and properly investigate on this issue (just incase if you don’t trust me) and find out the real truth behind such a drastic claims by our local media. That is if you still follow your Code of Ethics.
Yours truly,
A concerned viewer.
PS:
1. i am also forwarding this mail to other foreign media for their response.
2. i will be posting this transcript in the internet via blogs so that the viewers around the world will be aware that this matter has been brought to your attension and for them to express their views.
This facist state will burn in hell unless equality prefails. Af if become a developed country without politics based on justice and fairness, but race-segregated politics where all are just interested in lining their own pockets with the spoils of the people
Subject: Demolish Statues, Destroy Crosses in Missionary Schools says UMNO MP Parit Sulong
Dear all
Please take time to read below and forward on…
Pahlawan Volunteers recommend that UMNO sacks these two MPs with
immediate effect to restore public confidence in the Government the rakyat voted in.
Below is the translation of the hansard at the Third Meeting of The
Fourth Session of Eleventh Parliament (Dewan Rakyat) on Monday, 29 October 2007 as seen at
http://www.parlimen.gov.my/hindex/pdf/DR-29102007.pdf> – pages 143-144.
Tuan Syed Hood bin Syed Edros [Parit Sulong]: Yang Di-Pertua, I
would like to touch on a matter regarding the Ministry of Education,
which are Christian missionary schools like Convent, La Salle,
Methodist, and so forth. I was made to understand that the Board of
Directors at these schools are partially administered by churches in
foreign countries, for example in the Vatican City. I was also made to
understand that the application to build a ‘surau’ in some of these
schools had to go through the approval of these Board of Directors
whereby they are partially administered by the church. Therefore, it
shames me that the school administrations are still controlled by the
church. I was also made to understand that many Muslim parents send
their kids to these schools, and that they have complained that
sometimes, the school is started with church songs. I do not know if
this is true, but what I discovered from these parents are the display
of religious symbols. I feel disappointed that in an Islamic country,
Malaysia, if I go to a convent school, the statue of St. Mary is
displayed in the front of the school.
Datuk Haji Mohamad bin Haji Aziz [Sri Gading]: [Stands up]
Tuan Syed Hood bin Syed Edros [Parit Sulong]: Please proceed, Yang Berhormat for Sri Gading.
Timbalan Yang di-Pertua [Datuk Dr. Yusof bin Yacob]: Yes, Yang Berhormat for Sri Gading.
Datuk Haji Mohamad bin Haji Aziz [Sri Gading]: I am not shocked at
all, Yang Berhormat for Parit Sulong. It’s not just a simple question.
The question is, why has this happened? One. During the last Hari
Raya, I was told by a father, when Aidilfitri was celebrated, these
types of schools were not closed. Thank you.
Tuan Syed Hood bin Syed Edros [Parit Sulong]: Not only statues,
but fellow Yang Berhormat, go and see for yourselves, Christian
crosses are displayed in front of schools. I do not understand the
Ministry of Education, did the officers not see that, or is it our
policy to allow such a thing? Nevertheless, I, as a responsible person
to my religion, race, and country, I state my views that these statues
need to be demolished, these crosses need to be destroyed and church
influences in these schools need to be stopped. Also, the funds that
are collected at these schools. Do we have a report? If possible, the
ministry should reveal the funds for these schools. I was made to
understand that these schools are also sponsored by the church.
Translation taken from:
http://www.darnmalaysia.com/2007/11/23/morons-of-parliament-demolish-christi>
n-statues-destroy-the-crosses/
Also read the public comments there old boys and girls from mission
schools nationwide at the above link.
The duo’s irresponsible and unsubstantiated comments clearly
demonstrate their glaring narrow-mindedness and TOTAL IGNORANCE of the
following; thus distracting and sabotaging the way forward and urgent
progressive steps being taken by the Government to arrest the decline
in competitiveness and to rebuild the nation:
1. The Constitution of Malaysia (Read Part II, Articles 11 and 12
at )
2. Absolute no idea how mission schools are run and conducted in
the best interest of the nation-building.
3. Among the distinguished old boys from mission school Sekolah
Menengah Kebangsaan St John Kuala Lumpur, or St John’s Institution are
Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak, Education Minister Datuk
Hishammuddin Hussein, the Raja Muda of Perak, Raja Dr Nazrin Shah,
Sultan of Selangor Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah, just to name a few.
4. Mission schools are not fully Government funded, but categorized
as a ‘sekolah bantuan modal’ or Government aided school. This means
that for many needs including school building projects and
maintenance, the school would have to find its own funds.
5. The Government’s stand on mission schools as announced in the
various media as seen at Assunta Alumni’s news archive on mission
schools at
PETITION: Respect the Ethos and Character of Mission Schools
Please note that the above Assunta online petition is still ON
(initiated early April 2005). Subsequently, we wrote to the Minister
of Education and relevant education departments on 15 June 2005. We
hope to see this redressed before school resumes in January 2008 and
as we are going to celebrate Assunta Golden Jubilee next year:
Please sign the petition online if you have not done so. All past
students of mission schools and the public are also encouraged to sign
the above Online Petition. Just state the school you are from. A
gentle reminder: Please do not flame at the online petition as we’ll
be submitting to the relevant authorities again if need be. Flames
will be deleted, positive and constructive comments are most welcomed.
Please forward this on. Simply because…
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
– Pastor Martin Niemöller (victim of the Nazis
I reckon we can do our part as loyal Malaysians to work hard with dedication regardless of the government. However, the latest rallies have brought to light irregularities that have been happening since Independence. If we’re rationale, Hindraf’s claim and effort should be deemed valid.
A great day would come by when “Bangsa Malaysia” becomes a reality, hopefully. However, with the not-so-old political leaders we have now, future generation seems to be in deeper danger than it is now…will things get worse?
A change for good that’s ignited by these rallies could be needed for peace and stability of future Malaysia. We’ve been talking about Rukunegara so badly but how much of the first verse has been practised in reality?? Why not just have a Religious Affair Minister to iron out all temples/mosques/churches that are in danger of being demolished and report to respective religious council to be responsible for the closure.
Zakaria’s bungalow is a sheer proof that corruption exists very badly and openly here!!!
Dear Sir,
It’s about time all the Indians in Malaysia go to the Pilihan Raya and register themselves for the Elections.
Please inform them that we Indians can show the people who talk bad about HINDRAF that we can control them and let all the Malaysian Indian who agree with HINDRAF to VOTE for the OPPOSITIONS and show the BN that they were wrong to meddle with the MAKKAL POWER…..Long Live the Malaysian Indians….
The next rally (With Permit) we must do at the MIC headquarters to show Samy Vellu that he lost the Indians support and he should STEP DOWN or HANG HIMSELF for what he haven’t done for the Malaysian Indians. Samy Vellu and All the High Post MIC members should be SACKED from representing the Malaysian Indians.
Hat’s off to HINDRAF….a job well done to bring the Malaysian Indians to their senses, it’s time we show our MAKKAL POWER to change the MIC organization totally.
Hope my massage has reached other brothers and sisters of Malaysia Indians.
Regards,
Sureshkumar
To All Hindus. You should know you are immigrants which came to Malaysia during British Occupation. The former Malay Leaders gave the opportunity to all Indians to stay in this land. We wills to share with other immigrant races even Malaysia should be a Malay land. This is our homeland not yours. I think better all of you should say thanks to all Malays because our descendent willing to share with all hindus to stay in our lovely land. If you read that the Hindus homeland is India not in Malaysia. Because Malaysia refers to Malay or MELAYU. Please don’t make a stupid riot in Malaysia. We needs to live peaceful and could help together between all races in Malaysia. For you information, not only the Hindu Temples are demolished but other worship places such as mosques, churches, chinese temples are also demolished but the government offers the compensation. Please check the current stastics provided by the government, the malays or Bumiputras were categorised in the lower income if compared to the Indians. Please to make again.
well, hope u guys can fuel the brain instead fueling the emotions and let it burn. don’t forget that it can burn you, burn your fellow beings!
first if we want to protest for our rights, it should within our country, not to the third parties. it sounds to me like lifting the face and split towards the sky, thinking that u r fighting against it. but in fact u r spliting on ur own face! when we have family problem, are we bringing it to the public? we are solving that in between the 4 walls rite? samething should go here. country is also like a mother. will you go and get new mother if you not comfortable/ not feel fair with ur own mother? will you? if you are that kind of person, then i have no words to say..
second, before cleansing the goverment i think we should cleanse our community first!
tell me if you can find the indian community where the cast not come in to the picture. there is minority who is treated badly as minority by indian community itself. don’t dare to say no. my own parents also did that, when they stay in estate those time and until now there is people still practising that..
third, before blaming others, and expecting others to change, i think we should drive the change in ourself first! don’t forget that when u point others with 1 finger, the rest of 4 fingers are pointing at urself! i came from poor family also. my parent are rubber tapers and stayed in very small town in Perak. i’m fully grown with goverment support, completed my education in distinction, get a good job, bought a car and house, making my husband as businessman and leading good and peacefull life. not only me, all 5 sibling of mine as well! if i can do that, y can’t you? it is just simply means that u prople are not grabbing the chances! it is not to blame the goverment but urself! how many of us is doing good in education? how many of us is neglected even we have good education with flying colours? there is so many things we have to correct in our community before blaming others.
i’m not really against the protest, and i’m not supporting the goverment neither. i’m just a peace lover and hope u guys can do the things in better way that it is not sparkling the racial issues. understand that this is a multi racial country, the give and take concept should be always there. how the chinese control the economy and put thier feet strongly in this country? they also had been brought as the the labours to this country rite? if they can, why can’t we? did anybody ever think about that? we should do something similiar which can lead the goverment to value us and afraid of losing us. we should work together to put ourself up to that height. not to look up to the sky and expecting the gold will be falling! if u guys really want to fight, just migrate to sri lanka, that will do. until u guys experience that kind of living situation, u guys will never appreciate the harmony and the peace that become a back bone of this country!
instead of wasting time, energy and money in doing all this, just go and address out the needy people in our community and help them! that can change the fate of our community here. if Uthaya Kumar can do that, then i can salute him as a hero. now he is still zero, because bringing down the image of country, image of overall malaysian indian here. other country poeple now will see malaysian indian as a slave of this country. when somebody says “A”, that can end up with ‘Z’, when news are spreading. u guys may be proud of saying we has been treated as as a slave in this country! but i’m ashamed off! my self-respect is not allowing that and i think whoever have the self-respect will be standing against it!
if you telling this protest is because goverment is demolishing the temples, i just want to ask you, when you guys will stop fighting in the sake of god’s name? no harm questioning but there is still some other better way to react..
i don’t know what is the real intension behind “Uthaya Kumar” and his fellow beings..
it can be political or personal drive.. but whatever, before shaking head like cows and follow them, stop one moment and think! it takes 50 years of all of our efforts to build this nation, but to collapsed it just takes few seconds! i beg u guys, please let this country stay in peace for our next generation.. u guys are not protesting but threatening the harmony of this country!
– Malaysian (i now ashamed to called myself as Malaysian Indian!)
Can someone explain to me the difference between Bumiputra, Umnoputra, Orang Melayu and orang islam??? Which one got the highest standing in society?? and which category earns more income and pay more taxes? We are a bit confuse here. Is a malay that have convert to Christian still call a malay or orang melayu and if a melayu converts to a buddhist will he still be entitle to bumiputra status? What about if I am a UMNO member and I marry a chinese wife and then decides to change my religion to buddhist, can I still maintain my membership in UMNO?? Or my chinese friend decides to marry a malay wife – will he be able to change his name to a malay name and convert to bumiputra status?? Or he must join UMNO to enjoy bumiputra status? If my chinese friend convert to islam, can he still visit the temple?? What about if my chinese friend change name to malay in the IC, can he join UMNO then? Please furnish rakyat with more information. We are coming to a solution to solve this racist problem. Maybe all chinese and indians just change their name to malay name and join UMNO, I am sure there will be no more discrimination. All problem solved!!!
0000% no support HINDRAF go to helll!!!!!!!!!!!or got to jell!!see u in jell
En iniya tamil makkale,
HINDRAF’s first attack (Very Piecefully) has informed the people worldwide about our being and our struggles here. Lets give our full support to HINDRAF. Doing this we can shut the political idiots (So call Indian God fathers) mouth and their selfish street fight and media fight.
Dear Ashok
Please refrain from personal attacks and threats. I am not a person whom can be intimidated at all.
It is your choice to support HINDRAF, but believe me in an open debate I will make the moronic leaders of HINDRAF so foolish that they will lose all their credibility as their arguments are based on lies.
BTW I am sorry to hear about your rejection for a place at a public University. FYI I am a grad from a public Uni myself despite coming from an estate and Tamil school. My grandparents came to Malaysia as laborers and they know the value of education. My father studied hard and supported himself by working part time when his father passed away. And god rewarded him by getting him a govt job.
I am not the only one who had worked hard to be successful, many of my Uni mates were from estates. And none of us had special connections to get a uni place.
In fact I work for a multinational in a top management position now and travel the world most of the time. At this very moment I am several thousand kms from home at this moment.Had not my grandfather left for Malaysia, I would be probably working in a farm in India instead.
If I can make it without any political connections, then I am sure you could too. But if you had failed, then it is not the failure of MIC or the govt but YOU and only YOU.
You guys don’t know what you guys are missing and how lucky you are. My jobs takes me around the world, from the richest to the poorest. And folks, everytime I come back home, despite all the problems we have here, I never fail to thank god for his kindness in making me to be born a Malaysia.
A lot of Indians don’t realise the hard work Samy has done for the community. And it is shame on you guys to curse him this way. Had he failed to do his job, you folks probably still living in some estates.
Guys and gals, the surest way of being a failure is keep blaming others.Only when you accept that your fate is in your own hand and only hard work will help to progress, then you will succeed.
The heroes of the Indians are not HINDRAF clowns but those ordinary Indians who worked their way up from a poor background. There are thousands of Indians like me in Malaysia. If you are not successful, please ask yourself why. Stop blaming others, show your heroism and anger in making your life better and not by taking part in such useless activities.
It would be good if HINDRAF gets one million signatures each for the following two memorandums to be submitted to the relevant parries.
1) Raquesting one hour air time for opposition/NGOs views once a week in RTM, TV3 NTV7. If denied to go to court for an order compelling the demand be met.
2) That all ministers and deputy ministers declare their incomes and assets on a yearly basis to the public and their respective constituencies. The declaration must be done under oath. False declarations should warrant criminal charges.
The above 2 steps if implemented will go a long way to bring about justice to not only Indians but to all Malaysians.
Dear MP
Let’s talk about the Batu Caves incident and using the pictures that you asked me to see.
Now let me put in simple point form what the local media had reported and also IGP had stated. Please tell me which of these points are lies.
1. HINDRAF supporters went to Batu Caves temples and broke open the gates
2. They refused to leave upon asked by the temple committee
3. Temple committee called the police
4. The police asked the supporters to leave but they refused.
5. The HINDRAF supporters attacked the police with stones and bricks
6. Police used watercannon to subdue the crowd
7. The crowd damaged temple properties and also set fire to a tourist bus
8. Police did not use force and did not use water cannon or tear gas within the temple ground.
Now let’s look at the pics. These people are not people who came to pray. They had pictures of Gandhi and obviously they had come with other intentions.
Why they were doing at Batu Caves at that time ?
Look at the photos of the FRU using the watercannon. Look at the road. You can see bricks and stones on the road near the police ? That shows that the FRU were attacked by the devotees before the watercannon attack. So do you think these people are inncocent ?
I read Makkal Ossai the other day and it published a big news on how the police beat up the people. But it did not provide any evidence but just a witness account by someone claiming to be a news vendor who “happended” to be there (this is a joke right?). But the statement by the temple commitee was so small and put at some corner that I almost missed it.
So, simple question. If someone who were there can take some many pics, you think they would not have taken pics of police beating ?
There were hundreds of photographers and many more with camera handphones on that day, not to mention the TV news stations. How come not even one had a picture of police brutality ? Your friends can claim that but what can else you expect from HINDRAF supporters ? By taking part in the rally they are obviously biased and can’t be used as independent eyewitness. Even the Bar Council chairperson did not talk about police brutality but water cannon and gas.
You see, for all their claim of transparency and fairness, I did not a single account from the any alternative media to be truthful. On the other hand, while the mainstream media downplayed the incident, they did not lie or cover up.
For all the crap about non-violence, I read that the crowd tries to provoke the police by using vulgar words. You think Gandhi would be proud of this ?
And BTW, how come the leaders did not turn up for the rally and only came late ? Scared ?
Dear Helma Noor
Just read your nonsensical comments about me..I am not going to respond as I have a policy of avoiding debating with morons.
MP: edited for threats.
Hi my friends…..Thank you for support Hindraf
I really feel bad….. im not able to go to Peaceful Assembly 25 Nov because im studying at Canada. I couldn’t sleep…man. Please somebody **** the MIC President, he is Indian “Eight Appan†.he is our first enemy….Wat this f***….did on Indians. I show my ******** finger to those think indian at malaysia third class,
Read This (what is our Right) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_153_of_the_Constitution_of_Malaysia
My life for Indian
Dear Killer,
I am happy for your success, but please be fair to others especially the poor Malaysians whom the govt failed to help. The problem now face by most Malaysians are not just the poor people but the misuse of public funds by our govt. I can see so many discrimination like the force purchase of Southern Bank by CIMB even when the original shareholders of Southern Bank refuse to sell. We have a corrupted Govt who are using the rakyat’s taxpayers money to achieve their own personal interest. Take example, send a space tourist call angkasawan to space in a russian spaceship for RM15 million for just a 10 days holiday in space. Where does the RM15 million come from? Isn’t from our taxes that we pay. Why can’t our govt use it to help the poor indians with RM15 million??? Killer, I know you support our govt, me too…but the misuse of public funds is going beyond tolerance level of the majority rakyat. That’s why there are protest in thousands this month itself. I have a situation here, let’s say Badawi have only RM3 in his pocket, and he walk pass 3 beggers . The first begger is a malay, and 2nd begger is chinese and 3rd begger is an indian. Will he donate to each begger RM1 or he donates RM3 to the malay begger and forget about the other 2 beggers or he pass the RM3 to Samy Vellu and ask him to do what he like with the RM3 because it is the taxpayer’s money anyway, not really his own money. So can Killer answer which action will our PM take when he’s holding RM300 million of taxpayers money??? What we want is accountability not just talk by the govt that they can do this do that. Anyway, we shouldn’t be comparing with other countries when there’s misuse of public funds in our very own country. If our country got criminals whould you like to say “look here, our country have less criminals then Iraq, you rakyat should be happy when there’s less criminals in Malaysia.” It’s that what you are trying to say Killer?? Criminals means criminals, there’s no such thing as more or less. So goes for corruption, the govt cannot say “Look here, there’s less corruption in Malaysia compare to Japan and Ammerica, so we are still doing well to contain corruption…” So Killer is trying to ask our rakyat to compare our Malaysian govt by comparing our govt with USA we should be saying ” look here, our country is not as rich as USA because we are stupid and not productive time for our govt to change….” If Killer can compare our country with poorer countries then Killer should also compare us with the richer countries. What about Thailand? 15 years ago Thailand is more backwards then us economically but now they are ahead of us rite? And out of the top 100 billionaires in the world there are 13 billionaires are from India rite base on Forbes statistics?? So is there a Malay Bumiputra within the top 100 billionaire in the world?? Nope. So our Malaysian govt is not as good as the India Govt rite?? So please-please killer, not only you can compare, others can too.
whatever the hindraff did was 100% correct and people who dont surport hindraff plss stay quiet and dont create any rubbish through your mouth.keep your mouth close.u cant help so plss dont stop the indians who wants to save our world.Anti Hindraff plss stay away because the moment u against hindraff , U are not our indian anymore u can go and join other race.
Killer,
Then don’t join this blog please, get out of it otherwise you will also be called a moron. Go and debate elsewhere like the yearly UMNO AGM, there are full of morons there….
May Allah bless us with more morons from UMNO.
Don’t just simply use India… ( India or Tamil ???? ). In India Kasta system is still practicing… you see… what the differences of Nothern and South India… But contrary with us in Malaysia… we Malaysian treated same… we are not practising kasta, even In Malaysia…. Tamil, Punjabi, Brahma are never fight against each others. To live In Malaysia…. we are unic…we can play in football together, play hockey together, play badminton together….( how many sport more would I say ? )