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son claims dead father is a convert

January 21st, 2008
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Have you ever noticed that these kind of dubious conversion cases seem to happen to people who bed-ridden, terminally ill, unable to communicate properly and so on?

Eldest son claims dead father was a Muslim

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SEREMBAN: Police yesterday took away the remains of a 74-year-old man from a Chinese funeral parlour near here after his eldest son claimed that the deceased was a Muslim.

Abdul Rahman Gan Abdullah, 47, who had embraced Islam several years ago, lodged a report at the Seremban 2 police station claiming that his father, Gan Eng Gor, had converted to Islam on July 3 last year and had taken the name Amir Gan Abdullah.

When met at the funeral parlour, one of Eng Gor’s eight other children, Hock Sin, said the family was shocked to hear of this.  “When my father died this morning in Klang, I called to inform Abdul Rahman as he was the eldest. The entire family is shocked at his claim.

“We have been practising Buddhists all our lives. How is it that none of us, including my mother who has been looking after my sick father for the past two years, has no knowledge of this?” asked Hock Sin.

Temiang assemblyman Datuk Tiger Lee Yuen Fong and Rahang asemblyman Datuk Yip Chee Kiong, who were at the funeral parlour, appealed to all parties to remain calm and allow the authorities to assess the situation.

They also spoke with Eng Gor’s widow, Chua Chun, 65.

Hock Sin said it was not possible for his father to have embraced Islam as he had been bedridden for the past two years after suffering a stroke. “He could not talk, so how was it possible that he converted?”

State Islamic Affairs assistant director Mohd Yusof Tahir, who arrived at the funeral parlour later, produced copies of a certificate and a card from the department which stated that Eng Gor had embraced Islam on July 3 last year. Abdul Rahman was not present.  Speaking to reporters later, Mohd Yusof said the matter would be heard before the Syariah Court today.

Lee told reporters that the MCA would help appoint a counsel for the aggrieved family. Eng Gor’s remains are being kept at the Tuanku Jaafar Hospital mortuary.

Bomoh may tried to convert wife

January 18th, 2008
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go to Bomoh also can get converted!!!! Very risky nowadays! So be careful, don’t simply utter any funny sounding verses and get caught in hidden cameras 🙂

Read about the earlier issues :

court give temporary order

husband claims wife did not convert

Court: Husband can claim ‘converted’ wife’s remains
http://malaysiakini.com/news/77192
Beh Lih Yi | Jan 18, 08 4:12pm
The Kuala Lumpur High Court today ruled that entertainment outlet manager Ngiam Tee Kong had the right to claim his wife’s body following a three-week long dispute over the deceased’s religion.

According to his lawyer Karpal Singh, Justice Lau Bee Lan ordered Wong Sau Lan’s remains, which has been at the Hospital Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia mortuary since she died, to be released to Ngiam.

The decision followed the Federal Territory Islamic Council’s admission that Wong’s conversion to Islam from Christianity was not done in accordance with the hukum syarak (Islamic law) and provisions in the Administration of Islamic Law (Federal Territories) Act.

Ngiam who was present in court said he was relieved that the dispute is over.

“It has been 18 days. I can’t sleep sometimes, it has been very traumatic,” said the father of two whose 54-year-old wife died on Dec 30 due to an illness.

Ngiam, a practicing Buddhist, said he hopes to claim his wife’s body this afternoon. The couple had been married for 28 years.

Visited a bomoh

Speaking on his wife’s ‘conversion’, he said it happened when the couple sought the help of a bomoh last year to cure her ailment.

“The bomoh‘s son videotaped my wife allegedly reciting some Islamic verses. This was done with bad intention, we had only gone there to seek treatment,” he added.

After his wife died, Ngiam went to the hospital to claim her body and was told that he could perform the Christian rites but must return Wong’s body to be buried according to Muslim rites.

The next day, he received a letter signed by the Islamic council’s director stating that Wong had converted to Islam on Dec 24 at a flat in Jalan Siakap, Cheras.

However, Ngiam disputed the declaration. He claimed that the council’s letter did not state his wife’s Muslim name and that the conversion was not done in accordance with the law.

He insisted that Wong was a practicting Christian.

On Jan 4, Ngiam was granted an interim injunction preventing the hospital from releasing Wong’s body to the Islamic council in an ex-parte application filed by Karpal.

Following the council’s letter to Karpal two days ago that Wong’s conversion is not binding, an inter-parte application to hear from both disputing parties scheduled for today before justice Lau did not take place.

Seek damages

In the council’s two-page letter, its legal unit head Eidey El-Nimeiry Mokhtar said: “We have carried out further investigation in relation to Wong’s conversion to Islam done by one Siti Aishah Ismail and from the investigation and statements recorded, we decided that her conversion was not valid.

“With that, we are not planning to pursue any action and we are relinquishing our right over the deceased’s remains for it to be handed to her husband.”

Meanwhile, Karpal said he will seek damages for the anguish suffered by Wong’s family as a result of the dispute.

“The council should be more careful in future to ascertain one’s conversion. They should not snatch a body, refuse to release it and later admit that it was not a lawful conversion.

“There could have been other (similar) cases in which this kind of injustice had occurred. We must be more sensitive,” he added.

Wong’s case was the latest in a series of similar disputes since 2005.

PM to talk on managing multiracial country

January 14th, 2008
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As long as economy is well, public won't complain much. As long the majority are taken care of, there overall situation will be fine.

Not sure if PM will be asked to talk/comment about illegal conversions, apostasy, banning of books/movies, temple demolition, forced wearing of tudung/songkok, etc.

PM to tell how KL bridged racial-religious gaps

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By MERGAWATI ZULFAKAR

MADRID: Malaysia will get to share with other world leaders its experience as a successful moderate Islamic country with a multi-racial society and serve as an example to other nations. 

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, specially invited to the First Alliance of Civilisations (AoC) annual forum here from tomorrow will explain how Malaysia was able to bridge the religious and racial gaps among its people. 

The two-day forum, to be opened by the President of Spain, Josi Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, will be attended, among others, by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and former Portugal President Jorge Sampaio, who is also UN High Representative for AoC.  

Malaysian ambassador to Spain Datuk Naimun Ashakli Mohammad said the Spanish Government had cited Malaysia as a successful Muslim country, which practised a democratic process that could be emulated by others. 

Naimun said the forum organisers had invited the Prime Minister to be one of the panel members in a plenary session to discuss the topic The Alliance of Civilisations: Managing Diversity in the era of Globalisation. 

Abdullah, who arrived today, is also expected to hold bilateral discussions with Zapatero and extend an invitation to the Spanish leader to attend the third International Conference on Islam and the West in Malaysia. 

The conference to be held on June 9 and 10 is in line with the Malaysian government’s aim to create an alliance among civilisations through the involvement of governments, scholars and civil society.  

The two leaders are also expected to touch on the situation in Myanmar and West Asia. 

On trade ties, Naimun said trade volume amounted to RM3.7 bil, in Malaysia’s favour, between last January and October. Malaysia exported telecommunication equipment, electrical goods, vegetable fats, textile and rubber gloves.

new age voters on cyberspace

January 6th, 2008
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NewsFocus: 'I'm pro nothing, but Malaysia'

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'Apathetic', 'ignorant', and 'lazy' are labels hurled at Malaysian youth who are shirking their citizenry responsibility this coming election. But there are also those who make spreading political awareness their task, albeit in a less conventional way. The cyberspace, after all, doesn't just belong to the converted few

GOOD friends Michelle Gunaselan and Sarah Chan are your typical chic youngsters who work the week through just to live on Fridays.

Come weekends, the girls will hit clubs and party till the break of dawn.

And in-between sipping vodka to the thump of the house music the pair will ask other clubbers if they have registered to vote in the coming election.

Behind the party animal mien are two young people who take politics very seriously.

For far too long, politics had been associated with long, boring talks on issues that the young could not relate to, but that's a misconception, said Michelle, 25.

"People don't understand that politics pervades every aspect of their life.

"Whether you study in a private or public institution, what your first job is, what your salary is, the price of the shirt you bought from Topshop — they are all political decisions."

On nights when they are not shuffling on the dance floor, the duo attend political forums.

They, in fact, lent support to the people of Myanmar at a candlelight vigil before hitting a trendy nightspot in October last year.

Despite being in the know of the country's social development, Michelle and Chan said they did not know enough, especially about elections.

"Being in the media line, my friends and I consider ourselves quite savvy in terms of what's happening socially around the country," said 22-year-old Chan, who writes for a magazine.

"We were born in the 1980s, and the coming election will be our first.

"But we have no idea how it works, how the ballot box looks like, how to vote — we don't know the specifics. We know the issues, but not the process.

"This is quite worrying."

Textbooks, said Michelle, could offer only fundamentals and technicalities, but not other things young voters might like to know, such as who their MPs are, what they are doing for their constituents, and how local elections are carried out.

The women, along with four others, decided to search for answers collectively and also reach out to similar-minded peers.

The idea, mooted spontaneously at a barbeque in November, has now spawned into a Facebook group named VotED, which registered some 500 members within three days.

The account has now more than 800 members, made up mostly of young urbanites who have inked their names onto the electoral roll, or are beginning to take an interest in the political sphere.

In line with the group's aim to educate peers about the voting process, the women had initially planned to hold an event today, but it fell through due to lack of funding and the failure to get a venue.

Contrary to typical political seminars, the event was not to preach ideologies, but to educate young voters through talks, with the incorporation of vibrant lifestyle features such as music and films.

"Older people say that the young are not political, which is true to some extent, but who understands the dynamics better than us?" said Michelle.

Chan added: "We know what young people like and don't like. It has to be education, but in a fun-loving way.

"You know, we are the MTV generation with very short attention spans. It would be like attending a gig or party, but for a different cause."

On whether choosing not to vote should be respected as a right as well, Michelle answered in the affirmative.

"I completely agree with that, but in order to make any decision, one must be educated.

"You can choose not to vote for anyone, but have you completely gone through all the options? Or is it an emotional decision?

"It is a decision all right, but let it be an informed one."

Efforts to find a venue for the event came to naught because establishment owners, linking the group to political associations, were reluctant to host the event.

Chan, in stressing the group's neutrality, said that it ws not affiliated to any party.

"We all have personal opinions, but we're not going to put that into the agenda of the day. The point is education, not conversion."

Michelle added, "The moment you say something, you're instantly labelled as an opposition, that's really unfair.

"As a Malaysian group, we want what's best for Malaysia, and whoever offers us that should get the vote.

"I'm pro nothing, but Malaysia."

media statement by waytha on AP interview

January 5th, 2008
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Waytha Moorthy's Press Statement (not published by local dailies in Malaysia, but widely distributed in the biggest newspaper in the world – the Internet email system)
  
(Email details deleted.)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          From: waytha moorthy <waytha@...> To:Subject: HINDRAF STRUGGLE TO CONTINUE- PRESS STATEMENT 3.1.08 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 03:15:26 +0800 
MEDIA STATEMENT BY HINDRAF
 
 
RE: HINDRAF’S PEACEFUL STRUGGLE FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY INDIANS WILL CONTINUE TO THE END
HINDRAF WILL NOT GIVE UP EVEN IF WE ARE FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE.
MY STATEMENT TO AP TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT
 
On the 30th December 2007 I was interviewed by a journalist from the AP who had spent about 1 ½ hours interviewing me. I am equally disappointed that a small portion of the interview had been blown out of proportion to mean I am giving up the struggle of Hindraf or that the struggle is likely to die soon.
 
I wish to clarify the following:
a) I will continue to lead HINDRAF even if I’m on the move throughout the world.
b) HINDRAF’s struggle will not die “soon”  as I have many plans lined up and will reveal to the Malaysian Indians in stages and with the support of  PEOPLE POWER which we are witnessing now we will together continue to advocate and assert the rights of the Minority Indian community.
c) I will do all possible within my means to lobby support from the British Government Parliamentarians and Human Rights Organizations and these include our demand that the 5 Leaders of Hindraf be released unconditionally and the Minority Indian Rights which has been neglected over the last 50 years be protected. Thereafter I plan to continue the lobby to Europe, United Nations in Geneva, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
 
d) HINDRAF would also be organizing various peaceful protests throughout the country to highlight the plight of the 70% poor underclass Malaysian Indian society and for the release of the 5 Leaders of which I would announce the first plan on Monday 7th January 2008.
 
e)      In the interview I was questioned what if after years (5-10years) of campaigning and lobbying the Government still doesn’t budge?
My answer was even if we are fighting a losing battle we will continue with the battle because not all battles are meant to be won. Great warriors do not worry about dying in the battlefield. If we are meant to loose we will loose so that someone else who take up the cause after us will win the war. If we loose after years of campaigning so be it we will call it a day. No one organization (including HINDRAF) can ever claim we are here forever and will continue forever. Nothing is permanent in this world and it also applies to HINDRAF.
 
PEOPLE POWER can continue with the struggle but the ultimate power lies in the Government. In Malaysia Indians are minority and the reality is we can’t form a Government to change the situation. So the responsibility lies in this Government to make the necessary changes in the interest of the minority Indian community.
 
 
f)        In the said interview I repeated my statement which was given to the AFP about 2 years ago when I commented on the issue of temple demolition. I had then said that (on the issue of temple demolition) eventually we too would fail the community but I fear the outcome after that. “At the moment devotees are crying and begging but eventually they would not plead and cry any more”.
 
My fear which I had highlighted about 2 years ago came true when we all saw what happened at Padang Jawa Temple demolition. Devotees who were for the first time protecting the temple with their bare hands and yet the authorities had violently attacked them and though devotees were injured in the attempt they were arrested and charged with criminal offences.
I again wish to reiterate my fear. The Government has successfully locked up voices of peaceful struggle for democratic rights and dissent. People have no one they can trust to lead them as they are all locked up. All their hundreds of appeals, memorandums and letters to the Prime Minister written on their behalf by these leaders have gone to waste bins. What can you expect them to do next? These are poor people who are not educated to articulate their grievances in a refined manner. In these circumstances I honestly feel our “chapter” (HINDRAF’S peaceful struggle) has been forcibly closed by the Government and so they must expect a new chapter to be opened but we are not part of that chapter. If a new undesirable chapter is opened in the history of Malaysia then we hold the Government solely responsible for they have killed legitimate voices of dissent and peaceful democratic struggle by HINDRAF.
 
g)      I was also quoted to have said the following, “…..if they can give us real concessions we are willing to keep our mouth shut I don’t look at myself as a sacrifier”.
 
1 ½ years ago I was interviewed by members of the Police Special Branch who had wanted to know my intentions of leading HINDRAF and my activities. Everyone would know that at that time HINDRAF was practically dealing on issues of Religious conversions (Article 121 1(A)) and Temple demolitions. Yes I did tell the Special Branch then  that if the Government resolves at least the temple demolition issue and permanently gazettes all temples existing prior to independence I will “keep  my mouth shut” and leave the public scene.
 
h)      I will never regret for initiating HINDRAF and leading it to its current struggle. The Malaysian Indians have been cheated by the UMNO led Government over the last 50 years using “coalition” Indian political parties to pacify the Indian community whenever they complain their rights are trampled upon. The UMNO Government’s “divide and rule” policy seemed to have succeeded but not any longer. The Indian community can no longer be cheated
 
But my heart goes to the 5 HINDRAF leaders who have been made scapegoats by the Government. The irony is even our legal advisers namely Mr.R.Kengadharan and Mr. M. Manoharan who were purely acting for HINDRAF as legal advisers were not spared. They were both vigorously and couragesly defending us when various sedition and criminal charges were levelled against us. Their incarceration in particular are not acceptable for it goes against all tenets of basic Human Rights to detain lawyers who defend their clients. It proves the Government is vindictive and malicious and had intended to warn would be advocates of HINDRAF to “stay away” from representing us.
 
 
P.Waytha Moorthy
Hounslow
Middlesex
 
As i mentioned earlier, NST took the news from Deccan Chronicles which in turn refered to AP's interview, which came out in IHT. Confused?
 
Read what Waytha's immediate response was, and also the articles written by NST and Star at:
 
Article by MK is below.
 
'I'm not giving up Hindraf struggle'
Yoges Palaniappan | Jan 4, 08 12:57pm
Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) chairperson P Waythamoorthy, who is currently in United Kingdom, has claimed that he was misquoted in an interview conducted by the Associated Press (AP) on Dec 30.

In a statement released from Hounslow, London today, Waythamoorthy said his comments to AP was "taken out of context".

"I am disappointed that a small portion of the interview had been blown out of proportion to mean I am giving up the struggle of Hindraf or that struggle is likely to die soon," he said.

In the interview which was widely published both locally and in international media, Waythamoorthy was quoted as saying, among others, that Hindraf has to close the chapter and that it would not be part of the next chapter if there is any.

Clarifying today, Waythamoorthy said: "The government has successfully locked up voices of peaceful struggle for democratic rights and dissent.

"People have no one they can trust to lead them as they are all locked up. All their hundreds of appeals, memorandums and letters to the prime minister written on their behalf by these leaders have gone to waste bins. What can you expect them to do next?

"These are poor people who are not educated to articulate their grievances in a refined manner. In these circumstances I honestly feel our "chapter" (Hindraf's peaceful struggle) has been forcibly closed by the government and so they must expect a new chapter to be opened," he said.

However, he added, if a "new undesirable chapter" is opened in the history of Malaysia, the organisation would hold the government solely responsible for they have killed legitimate voices of dissent and peaceful democratic struggle.

The government's responsibility

He said that he was also asked in the AP interview on Hindraf's position if the government failed to make any changes even after five to 10 years of campaigning.

"My answer was even if we are fighting a losing battle, we will continue with the battle because not all battles are meant to be won.

"If we lose after years of campaigning so be it, we will call it a day. No one organisation (including Hindraf) can ever claim we are here forever and will continue forever. Nothing is permanent in this world and it also applies to Hindraf," he said.

He added that it was the responsibility of the government to make the necessary changes in the interest of the minority Indian community.

"People power can continue with the struggle but the ultimate power lies in the government. In Malaysia, Indians are minority and the reality is we can't form a government to change the situation," he added.

He also said that he was misquoted when he told the interviewer that he would keep his mouth shut if the government agrees to give them (Indians) two or three real concessions and that he did not look at him as a sacrificer.

He explained that was what he had told a police special branch officer who interviewed him one and a half years ago that he would "keep his mouth shut" and leave the public scene if the government resolved at least the temple demolition issue and permanently gazetted all temples existing prior to independence.

"Everyone would know that at that time Hindraf was practically dealing on issues of religious conversions and temple demolitions," he said in his statement today.

Struggle to continue

He reiterated that he will continue to lead Hindraf even if he was on the move throughout the world.

He stressed that Hindraf's struggle will not "die soon" as reported in the AP article.

"I have many plans lined up and will reveal to the Malaysian Indians in stages and with the support of people power which we are witnessing now we will together continue to advocate and assert the rights of the minority Indian community," he said.

"I will do all possible within my means to lobby support from the British government parliamentarians and human rights organisations and these include our demand that the five Hindraf leaders be released unconditionally."

"Thereafter I plan to continue the lobby to Europe, United Nations in Geneva, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand," he said.

In his statement, Waythamoorthy said that he "will never regret for initiating Hindraf and leading it to its current struggle".

"The Malaysian Indians have been cheated by the Umno-led government over the last 50 years using coalition Indian political parties to pacify the Indian community whenever they complain their rights are trampled upon.

"The government's divide-and-rule policy seemed to have succeeded but not any longer. The Indian community can no longer be cheated," he said.

Peaceful protests

He also said that he felt sad for the five Hindraf leaders who have been made scapegoats by the government.

The five – P Uthayakumar, M Manoharan, R Kenghadharan, V Ganabatirau and T Vasanthakumar – have been detained under the Internal Security Act last December for allegedly being a threat to the national security. They have been detained for two years at the Kamunting Detention Centre.

"The irony is even our legal advisers Kenghadharan and Manoharan who were purely acting for Hindraf as legal advisers were not spared. They were both vigorously and couragesly defending us when various sedition and criminal charges were levelled against us," said Waythamoorthy.

He also said that Hindraf would be organising various peaceful protests throughout the country to highlight the plight of the underclass Indian society and for the release of the five Hindraf leaders.

He said he would be announcing his next step of action next week.

AP interview excerpts

Some excerpts from Waythamoorthy's AP interview :

"We are fighting a losing battle, we know. We try our level best but if we don't succeed, we have to call it a day, isn't it?"

"We have to close the chapter. There may be a new chapter, but we may not be part of the next chapter… I know, eventually we will also fail."

"We want the minority Indians to be given their basic rights If they can give us two or three (real concessions), we are willing to keep our mouth shut."

"That's what I don't understand: why isn't the government conceding? We are not asking for super rights, we are asking for basic rights."

"What we can, we will still do. But if the whole struggle is going to die, what can we do?… As it stands now I don't think we can accelerate."