apology must come sincerely. if these YBs want to apologise and later retract and later issue statement and whatnots…might as well just forget it…it will be an insult to accept their apology. » Read more: MP says sorry to women, then retracts his apology
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MP says sorry to women, then retracts his apology
May 17th, 2007
A family ripped apart
May 16th, 2007| Muslim or Hindu? A family ripped apart (Malaysiakini) |
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She wants her husband and their seven children to embrace Islam. But her husband is adamant about remaining a Hindu till his death. After 21 years of marriage, the family of rubber-tappers P Marimuthu and Raimah Bibi is being torn apart for religious reasons.
The matter became a national issue when the Selangor Islamic authorities separated Raimah and six children from Marimuthu. He then turned to the civil court for custody of the children aged between four and 14.
Raimah, 40, later agreed to hand over custody to her husband. Although, she is now housed in a nearby village, she visits her children and husband regularly. Malaysiakini met the couple at their house in Ulu Yam, Selangor, to get their story. In an emotionally charged exchange, both husband and wife accused one another for their predicament. Raimah claimed that she was “misled” into signing the custody agreement and wants to take action against her husband’s lawyer, Karpal Singh. “I am illiterate, and my husband’s lawyer did not explain the letter to me in detail. He told me to sign and I signed it. I am going to file a case against him. Now, I don’t have any rights over the children, you have all the rights,” an upset Raimah told her husband. “Nobody comes to see me, not even the children. Even if the children are sick, only my husband can take them to the clinic. When the children were with me, many people came to see us. They gave rice and other things. They gave RM150 for expenses. But since the court case ended, nobody has come.”
Raimah remained unconvinced when her husband explained that the letter was read to her in court and that she was still their mother, no matter what. “What more do you want? You get to visit them. I have only been given custody of the children. After they turn 18, they can decide for themselves,” said Marimuthu, 44, to his wife. “Is seeing them enough?” retorted Raimah in tears. “When they are above 18 and suppose they want to follow my religion, would you allow them? I was the one who got cheated. I was stupid to sign the (custody) letter.
“He (Marimuthu) wanted the children and I signed the letter, and now his problem is solved but I am left alone. I have just have one daughter staying with me but I have no rights over her either.”
Mayhem over formalities Asked if he knew that his wife is a Muslim when they got married, Marimuthu said her identity card states her name as ‘Raimah Bibi a/p (or ‘daughter of’) Noordin’ and not binti (the Muslim equivalent). “In her MyKad (which she obtained recently), her name is stated as Raimah binti Noordin and her religion as Islam. This is what caused all the problems,” he said. Raimah, who is shown wearing a tudung (head scarf) in the MyKad photograph, said she has been a Muslim from birth, but her husband claimed that she never informed him about this. “He said ‘if you had told me this, I would not have married you’. In the old identity card, all my family members have a/p (typically used for Indian Malaysian names) instead of binti. “I got mine changed to binti a few months back but he (Marimuthu) claims that someone had added it. How can he not know I am a Muslim? Both Raimah and Nordin are Muslim names.” Asked why their marriage was not legally registered, Marimuthu replied that it was not an important thing to do at the time. Raimah revealed that she had approached the religious authorities on her own accord and informed them that she was a Muslim. However, her husband does not believe this. Asked how the problem could be solved, Ramiah replied: “I already told them that I am a Muslim. How can I turn back again now, especially after the whole country knows the case? They (the Islamic authorities) will not allow me to turn back.” On why she decided to do this after more than two decades of marriage, she said: “I did this because I thought all of us would become Muslims. I never thought he (Marimuthu) would do all this (take the matter to court). If I had known, I wouldn’t have revealed that I'm Muslim.” Raimah also disclosed that she had not informed her husband of her intention to meet the religious authorities. Plight of family “I was born a Hindu and that’s how I wish to remain. If this question was posed to me six years ago, I might have agreed because I was forced to sleep with my family on the streets when our squatter house in Ampang was demolished. “But everyone, including Malay leaders that I approached for help, wanted money in return. Nobody helped me, so why I should convert?” On whether he would reconsider his decision for the sake of his children, Marimuthu was firm about raising them as Hindus and said he is prepared to face any hardship that arises. The rubber tapper, who earns between RM500 and RM1,200 a month depending on the weather, said: “I am confident I can take care of them even if I have to do it alone. I am content with the current arrangement, where my wife comes and visits the children. “When the children are old enough, let them decide which religion they want to follow. They (the religious authorities) have separated me from my wife in the name of religion, but they cannot separate her from the children. For that, I am happy.” Marimuthu claimed that, prior to this problem, religion had never been issue between him and his wife. “No matter what problems we faced, we were happy together.” In the past, he said, Raimah lived like a Hindu and was not averse to frequenting temples. Recalling the day that his wife and children were taken away, Marimuthu said he suffered from mental and emotional anguish. “I couldn’t sleep or eat. I was like a mad man. It is this that drove an uneducated man like me to seek help from DAP and go right up to Parliament. I was afraid that they would convert my children,” he added. Raimah admitted that she lied to Marimuthu that she was going out to get medicine, but had gone to the Islamic affairs office instead. “Contrary to what my husband thinks, I did not do this because I wanted to leave him. I still want to be with him. But he thinks someone has influenced me to do this,” she said. “I always wanted to do this (return to being a practising Muslim). I had this idea for a long time, but did not know how to go about it. Although, I went to temples and performed prayers, I could not forget my religion.” |
Maybank debate a good lesson
May 11th, 2007NST:Maybank debate ‘a good lesson’
Farrah Naz Karim
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/20070511090100/Article/index_html
PUTRAJAYA: A good lesson to be learnt by all, is how Umno Youth chief Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein described the controversy involving Maybank’s equity requirement for its panel of lawyers.
Hishammuddin said the requirement that law firms needed at least 50 per cent Bumiputera equity before they could do business with the bank was not just an internal matter.
The education minister said the bank’s approach was wrong as such issues could create misperception and anxiety about government policies.
“We are in our 50th year of of independence and people want to learn from our system, and here we are bickering about a matter that shouldn’t have surfaced at all. This is a lesson to us as a multi-racial nation, that a small matter like this can be sensitive.
“It is not a huge issue and could have been resolved between the parties involved. For this issue to be brought up in cabinet was unnecessary,” he said after a meeting with his Thai counterpart Prof Dr Wichit Srisa-an and Higher Education Minister Datuk Mustapa Mohamad. Maybank had come under criticism by lawyers and some political groups which insisted that firms should be judged on their merit and not ethnic composition or equity. » Read more: Maybank debate a good lesson
Cabinet orders Maybank to stop
May 10th, 2007Written no less than Datuk Wong Chun Wai himself…
A mini victory for MCA, Gerakan. As usual, the educated leadership of MIC choose to remain silent and focus on more important things.
Maybank adheres to Cabinet order
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/5/10/nation/17681264&sec=nation
By WONG CHUN WAI
KUALA LUMPUR: The Cabinet has ordered the country’s largest bank, Maybank, to withdraw its requirement that law firms must have a bumiputra partner with at least a 50% stake before they could do any business with the bank.
The move, which generated controversy and criticism that it was discriminatory, was discussed at the weekly Cabinet meeting yesterday.
Highly-placed sources said the Cabinet took the stand because it felt it was not a government policy and that the Finance Ministry had also not issued any such directive to banks.
Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who is also Finance Minister, chaired the Cabinet meeting.
The sources said that while the bank’s decision was an internal directive, the Cabinet felt it was not a proper decision.
MCA president Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting, when contacted, said the Cabinet discussed the issue, and felt that Maybank’s decision was inappropriate and not in line with government policy.
The Housing and Local Government Minister considered the matter settled and resolved.
The Maybank decision had been criticised by various groups including the MCA, Bar Council and the Associated Chinese Chambers of Commerce and Industry, which said firms should be judged on their merit and not ethnic composition.
In Boston, FOO YEE PING reports that Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak as saying the government’s policy is to help both bumiputras and non-bumiputras.
He said Maybank should understand that the government policy was to encourage government-linked companies (GLC) to provide work for both bumiputras and non-bumiputras.
On Tuesday, MCA vice-president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek questioned the ruling, asking how Malaysia could compete globally if a government-linked company like Maybank still adopted such a position.
Wanita MCA chief Datuk Dr Ng Yen Yen, who is Deputy Finance Minister, expressed regret with Maybank, saying the condition had no legal basis and was certainly not in line with the spirit of the Federal Constitution.
Bar Council chairman Ambiga Sreenevasan had earlier described the requirement as discriminatory and said that all lawyers should be judged on merit.
Yesterday, Maybank issued a statement that the bank wanted to emphasise that selection of solicitor firms would continue to be based primarily on performance, efficiency and merit.
“Moving forward and with immediate effect, all solicitor firms, whether with bumiputra or non-bumiputra equity ownership, are eligible for consideration,” it said.
It said all other revised criteria for emplacement of solicitor firms pursuant to its annual review remain unchanged.
DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng, meanwhile, said that Bank Negara should have ordered Maybank to revoke its decision instead of waiting for the Cabinet to act.
“If Bank Negara can order banks to merge, we cannot accept that Bank Negara could not intervene earlier because it was a Maybank internal matter,” he said.
Lim said similar requirements were set out by Ambank Bhd, claiming there had been tacit discrimination by other banks in refusing to parcel out work to those without the 50% bumiputra equity requirement.
However, a statement from the AmBank Group said no restrictions or quota of shares were imposed.
“The group does appoint legal firms that do not have bumiputra partners. This policy has been in place for more than two decades,” it said.
However, to encourage bumiputra participation in the financial services industry, the AmBank Group had always encouraged legal firms to have bumiputra partners, it added.
Hindu man gets custody of children by Muslim wife
May 4th, 2007the 3 articles are from The Sun (1) and NST(2). Sadly, the Star did not have the its version published online.
“Karpal later told reporters Raimah Bibi had filed an affidavit stating she had left her husband’s home willingly and on her own accord”.
“I am not unlawfully detained by anyone. I agree to hand over custody of our children into my husband’s care and I will have unrestricted access to them at all times,” she said.
Both Marimuthu and Raimah Bibi were seen shedding tears after the verdict and spoke to each other briefly.”
– What did you understand after watching the clip from AlJazeera program EveryWoman?
Couple agrees to live apart, custody of children given to Hindu hubby
http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=17808
SHAH ALAM (May 3, 2007): A 40-year-old woman today agreed to live apart from her non-Muslim husband and gave him custody of their seven children after choosing to continue practising Islam. She is, however, given unlimited access to her children aged four to 14, the product of their 20-year marriage which was not formally registered.
It was a touching scene at the High Court here when Raimah Bibi Noordin, 40, told Justice Datuk Su Geok Yiam she had agreed to hand over her children to 44-year-old P. Marimuthu whom she had married according to Hindu rites.
Raimah will now live apart from Marimuthu, who will bring up the children, comprising four boys and three girls, according to Hindu tradition.
She will have to fend for herself, with some aid from the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (JAIS).
Marimuthu had filed a habeas corpus application against JAIS, alleging that his wife and six of their children were being unlawfully detained by JAIS which took them from their home in Kampung Baru Tambahan, Ulu Yam Lama, in Batang Kali, on April 2.
With today’s agreement, the application was withdrawn.
Karpal Singh, who represented Marimuthu, told Su both parties had reached an agreement on the matter.
“The children will be surrendered to Marimuthu and they will continue to be raised as Hindus while Raimah Bibi remains steadfast as a Muslim. She will have absolute access to the children at any time,” said Karpal.
Karpal later told reporters Raimah Bibi had filed an affidavit stating she had left her husband’s home willingly and on her own accord.
State legal adviser Datuk Zauyah Loth Khan, who represented JAIS, told Su the habeas corpus application was withdrawn after Marimuthu agreed his wife was not being unlawfully detained by JAIS.
“The arrangements are as stated by Karpal … access to the children without any restrictions. Raimah Bibi is a Muslim and will continue to practise Islam.”
Karpal then requested the court to hear it personally from Raimah Bibi and to obtain her confirmation on the arrangement.
Clutching her headscarf and wiping away tears, Raimah Bibi nodded and answered the judge’s questions.
“I am not unlawfully detained by anyone. I agree to hand over custody of our children into my husband’s care and I will have unrestricted access to them at all times,” she said.
Both Marimuthu and Raimah Bibi were seen shedding tears after the verdict and spoke to each other briefly.
Outside the courtroom, Karpal said the outcome of the case was akin to that judged by King Solomon, whereby a mother who was involved in dispute with another woman over her baby, decided to let the other woman take her child when the king ordered that the child be split in half and shared.
Asked about the status of Raimah Bibi’s marriage, Karpal said it remained but the couple would be living apart.
The six children are now staying with Raimah Bibi in a rented home in Bandar Utama Batang Kali, about 2km from Marimuthu’s house.
Zauyah, when asked if Raimah Bibi would seek to anull her marriage to Marimuthu, said they had not decided.
DAP’s Lim Kit Siang, who was also present, said the outcome of the case has resulted in an open-ended solution which divided the couple.
Karpal later said an arrangement was being made to take custody of the children from Raimah Bibi today.
Hindu man gets custody of children by Muslim ‘wife’ By : V.Anbalagan
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/Frontpage/20070504074728/Article/index_html
SHAH ALAM: In an about turn, tapper P. Marimuthu will be reunited with his six children today, a month after they were allegedly taken away by the Selangor Religious Department (Jais) officials.
This came about after Marimuthu and his companion, Raimah Bibi Noordin, reached a settlement at the High Court yesterday.
The tapper will now raise his children in the Hindu faith, while Raimah, in return, was given visiting rights.
It has now emerged that although Marimuthu and Raimah spent 21 years together and had seven children, they were not legally married.
In court yesterday, Raimah, 39, said she was a born Muslim and would remain one. Clad in baju kurung and wearing a head scarf, she broke down when judge Datuk Su Geok Yiam asked her whether she was prepared to give up custody of the children.
“Yes, let him raise them,” she said, through an interpreter.
Marimuthu, who was also in court, was in tears.
After the proceedings, the couple spoke to each other while holding hands before Raimah left with Jais officials.
Earlier, Karpal Singh, who appeared for Marimuthu, told the court that the parties had worked the “Solomon’s justice” arrangement, referring to the biblical story of King Solomon settling a dispute between two women over a baby.
Karpal then said Marimu- thu would withdraw his habeas corpus application, bringing to an end the dispute of the religious status of the children.
Selangor state legal adviser Datuk Zauyah B. Loth Khan, who appeared for the department, said they would not object to the agreement.
She, however, pointed out that Raimah and the children were not illegally detained.
On April 19, Marimuthu, filed a habeas corpus application, claiming that his family members were Hindus and that the department had no authority to detain them.
He alleged that Raimah and the children Yoogenaswary, 12, Paramila, 11, Hariharan, 8, Ravindran, 6, Shamala, 5 and Kaberan, 4 were being held unlawfully by the department.
The couple have seven children.
The oldest, a 14-year-old boy was not at their Kampung Baru Tambahan home in Ulu Yam when Jais officials came to take the family away.
Raimah and six of her children were housed in Kampung Melayu Liga Emas in Batang Kali, Selangor.
It was then that Marimuthu sought legal redress, claiming that his “wife” and children were Hindus and that they were being detained by Jais who wanted to convert them.
Raimah, however, in an affidavit filed yesterday, said she and the children left their house on April 2 on their own free will, as Marimuthu had forced her and the children to practise the Hindu faith.
She said in March this year, she went to the Lembaga Zakat Selangor branch office in Kuala Kubu Baru with a relative to inform them of her predicament.
Raimah said she left the house with the children as officers from the department were acting on her complaint.
Zauyah later said the authorities would assist Raimah to find a job.
Marimuthu said he would rely on his older children to take care of their younger siblings while he was away at work.
“We will not shift house. This will make it easier for Raimah to visit our children.”
Relief for most quarters
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/Frontpage/20070504074728/Article/index_html
KUALA LUMPUR: There was a general sense of relief when P. Marimuthu’s children were finally returned to him, although experts lamented the lack of legal clarity over unions of mixed faiths.
Suhakam commissioner Datuk N. Siva Subramaniam said common sense had prevailed as far as the issue was concerned.
“The matter has been settled amicably between the two parties concerned. As long as we are transparent, fair and not overzealous in our decisions, we can live as united Malaysians.”
Bar Council chairman Ambiga Sreenevasan said she was pleased that both parties involved had come to an agreement in the interest of their children.
“Of course, the consent alone doesn’t resolve the legal matter. The law remains uncertain in relation to such matters,” Ambiga said. Universiti Teknologi Mara’s Professor Dr Shad Saleem Faruqi said there were no firm rules in cases like Marimuthu’s.
He said the law was inadequate to deal with a situation where one party is a Muslim and the other a non-Muslim.
“Raimah Bibi Noordin’s situation is very sad because she married for love but due to her religious status, she cannot register her marriage.
“If she wants to reunite with her husband, he must convert or she must formally renounce Islam. Whether or not she wants to now is a different issue.”
Women’s Aid Organisation executive director Ivy Josiah said she hoped the settlement had not been brought about under duress.
“I believe that at a human level, a woman should have the right to be with her husband of choice and a mother to her children at all times.”