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Syed Hamid threatens other NGOs who support HINDRAF activities

October 25th, 2008
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Well, looks like the dragnet is expanding. Now, all NGO’s who are “involved” in HINDRAF activities would face the law as well. That means Police Watch Malaysia I guess – the precursor to HINDRAF. If I’m not mistaken, HINDRAF itself is a coalition of 20 over NGOs. That means all those NGOs have to be banned as well. How about those who support HINDRAF’s purpose/activities – like Gerakan, MIC members, MHS, PAS, PKR, DAP, Bar Council, Suharam, GCC, HSS, etc.? Semua kena tangkap ka?

Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar today warned that any non-governmental organisation found to be involved in Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) activities would face the law.

He said this was because Hindraf was declared illegal by the government on Oct 15 for its militant activities, and that its actions contravened Section 5 (1) of the Societies Act 1996 and were a threat to public order, peace, civility and moral values.

“It doesn’t matter what name they use, action will be taken…it’s not an action against Indians or Hindus. This is action against groups that associate themselves with militancy and have extremist views,” he told reporters at the ministry’s Aidilfitri open house, here.

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Aftermath of HINDRAF Ban – Part 1

October 16th, 2008
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I have to start with the story of the day – Police beat closed down in Jalan Haji Taib because….brace yourselves….it was in a location considered UNSAFE! This is the response from none other than the embarrassment called Syed Hamid whom clowning antics have us up in arms. I seriously wonder if he actually goes through what is given to him before allowing it to be published. I wonder how many MPs are cursing their luck for having him amongst them. Same goes for his constituents in Kota Tinggi (if I’m not mistaken).

In a written reply to Dr Lo’ Lo’ Mohamad Ghazali (PAS-Titiwangsa), Syed Hamid said the beat base was located in a dirty area where there was a possibility of being exposed to contagious diseases.

The presence of criminals also posed a threat to the safety of police officers, he said.

Lo’ Lo’ had asked why the beat base on Jalan Haji Taib was closed considering the high number of vice-related activities in the area, as well as what kind action had been taken by the police to curb such activities.

Syed Hamid said that the police were looking for a new location to build a police beat base that would be able to give “guaranteed and continued service to the public.”

Another MP, Dr Mohd Hatta said that if the police themselves felt unsafe in a beat base, then it would be even worse for the public.

“The minister has to resign if he is worried about the safety of police in that area. Maybe it would be better to put the beat base in army barracks,” he said.

Dr Mohd Hatta then managed to raise the issue again during his own debate on Budget 2009 saying that Syed Ali’s response was not rational.

“The police are there to make a place safe. If they themselves are scared and run away, then how can we hope for others to want to be there?

“It is embarassing and that is why the criminals will always be there,” he said.

Dr Mohd Hatta said if the place is dirty, then it is up to the police to organise gotong-royong activities to clean it up or if they did not want to then they should move to Putrajaya or Parliament.

“And what is this about contagious diseases on Jalan Haji Taib? The only kind of contagious diseases that are present there are sexually-transmitted ones.

“Is the minister scared that his charges will contract such diseases? That kind of thing is a matter of choice. In any case, if this is what he is worried about then we are worried that the police are not above this.”

Dr Mohd Hatta added that the police had to be brave people and that they were a different breed altogether when facing demonstrators. He said he hoped that the minister would clarify his written answer in the House as this is not the kind of police that the people want.

Ok, that tells us a bit on the guy who issued orders to ban HINDRAF. I wonder if Utusan will come up with another piece of s**t creative work ending with a “Sod Am It” being impaled on a stake and then
blown to bits with C4. Probably they will since he is far behind in the deputy presidency race.

More explanation
from Syed Hamid:

The banning of the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) was not politically motivated, said Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar.

Syed Hamid said the actions by Hindraf members during the recent Hari Raya open house, hosted by the prime minister and cabinet members, showed that “it had pushed the boundary of religious tolerance.”

“We have and will continue to take action against any individual or group out to create racial tension or conflict, regardless of their political affiliations,” the Home Minister said.

This, he said, was shown when the government had banned the Al-Arqam, Al-Maunah and Jemaah Islamiyah.

Hindraf members had consistently carried out extreme activities and they were clearly using religion as a tool to create disharmony between races, Syed Hamid told a press conference at his office yesterday.
“We had investigated Hindraf’s activities thoroughly. All facts and evidence had been scrutinised by the Registrar of Societies.

“If the movement’s activities were not stopped, public safety and harmony would be at risk. Its members had consistently broken the law by holding illegal rallies and had acted violently,” he said.

Syed Hamid everyone is accorded with freedom of speech but this does not involve stirring up racial sentiments.

He then went on to say that Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi had said that the government is willing to listen to everyone, even if they have unpleasant things to say.

“But when they use extreme tactics, which go against racial tolerance and courtesy, we have to act for the sake of public order and harmony,” said Syed Hamid, quoting the prime minister.

He further added that Hindraf did not represent all Hindus.

“It represents a minority. The Hindus play a very valuable role in our society. One quarter of our doctors are Indians and there are legitimate Indian political parties like the MIC to look into their grievances.

“They will continue to work with the government. The government will continue to listen to the problems of all races in this country,” Syed Hamid said, adding that Malaysian Indians must not be misled into believing that they are not represented.

He also dismissed concerns of a backlash with Deepavali around the corner.

“There won’t be any backlash. We are not taking action against Hindus but against this extremist group which does not represent the majority of the Indian community.”

He mentioned HINDRAF organised 384 illegal gatherings. Not bad! Would be given a place in Malaysian Book of Records? Let’s look at some of his points. Since when is open house a religious event? Is he preaching deviant teaching? Are JAKIM people reading newspapers?

Hindraf is being compared with the JI, Al-Arqam and Al-Maunah – groups that were involved in armed attacks. Well, in Bolehland, you can compare school student with bank robber and arrest him as well, I guess.

I remember watching the PM in TV last year saying that “why should he meet HINDRAF”. Now, the resident clown says opposite.

Finally, on what basis is he saying that “HINDRAF does not represent all HINDUS” or that “it represents a minority”? HINDRAF have clarified countless times that it represents all Malaysians. If UMNO or MCA can claim to represent all Malaysians, why not HINDRAF? Doesn’t it sound funny? Also, isn’t it curious that apart from MIC, its cronies and few individuals, no other groups from the Indian community came forward condemning HINDRAF actions? So, is it really a minority?

Syed Hamid also said that the police will investigate and its up to the courts to pass sentence on HINDRAF leaders if found guilty.

He also gave some statistics:

He said the Indian community was not neglected in this country as they were quite well represented with 14 Indian members of parliament, 21.4% in the legal fraternity, 18.4% in the field of medicine and their overall income was 1.2 times higher than the income of the Malays.

With regard to those living under the poverty line, the Indians comprised 2.9%, Chinese 0.6% and Malays 8.3%, he said.

Syed Hamid added that there was a ratio of one temple to 149 Hindus and one mosque to 2,300 Muslims in this country.

The most unbelievable thing mentioned by Syed Hamid is that 14 Indian MPs being in the parliament. Well, that happened due to Makkal Sakthi! How many Indian MPs are there on BN side in that 30 years? Is he admitting to something here? Next, even MHS doesn’t really know how many temples there are in the country. How does the Home Minister get this data? There’s no registry anywhere.

It has been well documented that the rate of improvement among other races are better than the Indians and the other minorities. Even in employment, the ratio of Indian professionals is not as before.

The police then says that HINDRAF’s members are being monitored following the ban:

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan said members could face arrest if they remained defiant and proceeded to organise gatherings.

“They have been banned and deemed illegal, therefore cannot do anything.

“Hindraf’s status is akin to a secret society,” he said here on Thursday.

Musa said police had also identified Hindraf members who had “gate-crashed” the Prime Minister’s Hari Raya open house at the Putra World Trade Centre in Kuala Lumpur on Oct 1, including the organiser. He added that police would hand over the investigation papers to the A-G for further action.

Well, MIC’s boss Samy Vellu said the usual stuff – they will continue to fight for release of the ISA detainees. However, he said “no comments” when asked about the ban:

“Regarding the ban on Hindraf, no comment. I don’t have any reaction. I don’t like to comment on it,” he told reporters after the MIC Central Working Committee meeting at MIC headquarters here on Thursday.

Let’s see what else he said:

Asked whether the Indian community’s support for MIC would be affected as a result of the ban, he said, “MIC stands on its own foundation. We have more than 600,000 members.”

On Coalition of Indian NGOs secretary-general Gunaraj George’s statement that the ban would result in the Indian community losing their platform to voice their opinions, Samy Vellu reacted: “Now, they are saying that the voice comes from there? What do they voice out? Whose voice is it?

“The voice normally comes from MIC. The demands come from MIC. The plans are formulated by MIC.

“We have a special Cabinet Committee to protect the interests of the Indian community through MIC.

“Voicing out issues? Anyone can do it. It is not difficult to voice out your opinions. What’s hard is implementing actions that can benefit the Indian community,” he said.

On Bar Council vice-chairman Ragunath Kesavan’s remark that making Hindraf illegal would not solve the problem as it was important to address the issues raised by Hindraf, rather than the movement itself, Samy Vellu said: “I do not see any issues that they raised. We raise the issues.

“We have representatives in Cabinet. I have raised certain issues concerning the community. Now, (Human Resources Minister) Datuk Dr S. Subramaniam raises issues on a weekly basis.

“Not through massive street demonstrations. We plan it from our office and raise it to the Government and the Prime Minister,” he added.

Ok, let’s get to the points. MIC’s membership is 600,000? I thought it was 500,000 only. Out of 1.7 million population, can we believe that 35% are MIC members? How many Indians are above the age of 21? Could it be 70%? That means many MIC members did not vote for BN in the last elections!!! Kesian Samy Vellu, betrayed by own members. Or, he’s lying about the membership. Next, the “voice” thing. I guess its not how many times you shout, but the effect is the one that counts. Can we get a figure from MIC on the number of memorandums/demands/suggestions/plans/ideas sent to the leaders, and its status now? At least we know HINDRAF can’t even send one memorandum, so we take it as a failure. How many successes does MIC got? The Cabinet Committee is a nice spin by Samy. He conveniently forgot to tell that it was formed just 3 months ago and had its second meeting last month! So much for telling the truth! Ok, let’s give them the benefit of doubt. How many issues have been raised since March 2008 and what are their status.

By the way, MIC’s open house will be on Deepavali day (10am to 1pm) at PWTC – so that means not many Indians (except MIC politicians and those seeking favors) will be attending. Maybe its purposely held on that day to hide the fact that many Indians will boycott it if held on any other day. Or would MIC members betray Samy Vellu again and turn up in orange on that day?

Next, we’ll read what HINDRAF and the rest say about the ban – in Part 2.

HINDRAF Banned

October 15th, 2008
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Well, finally the Home Minister, bereft of any other ideas, proclaimed that HINDRAF is an illegal organisation based on Section 5(1) of the Societies Act 1966. I searched for the Act, but can’t find it. Hope someone can send the link.

The declaration is with immediate effect. According to Home Minister (from Malaysiakini):

…the decision was made after the ministry was satisfied with facts and evidence that showed “Hindraf had and was being used for unlawful purposes and posed a threat to public order and morality”.

“Based on powers vested under Section 5(1) of the Societies Act, Hindraf from today is declared an illegal organisation,” he said in a statement today.

He said the order was being made as a result of monitoring and investigation on the organisation’s activities by the Registrar of Societies (ROS) and Home Ministry, since Hindraf’s inception.

Syed Hamid said if left unchecked, Hindraf would continue to pose a threat to public order, the security and sovereignty of the country as well as the prevailing racial harmony.

“The decision to declare Hindraf an illegal organisation is not based on one or two of its activities that are in contravention of the law but covers all the actions it has taken since being formed,” he said.

Syed Hamid said Hindraf had all the criteria of an organised movement because it had filed for registration with the ROS on Oct 16 last year. He added that the application was yet to be approved.

He also said that the organisation had actively exploited the Indian community to organise illegal assemblies and street demonstrations without permits.

Such acts, he said, had resulted in some members of the Indian community to rise up against the government.

Syed Hamid also said that Hindraf’s actions also caused hatred among the Malays and Indians in the country.

“Hindraf has also tried to secure support from foreign countries for the purpose of pressuring the government to bow to its demands,” he added.

Syed Hamid advised the public to distance themselves from Hindraf and not participate in any way in any of its activities.

Among the first to respond was Lim Kit Siang:

In an immediate reaction DAP stalwart Lim Kit Siang said the banning of Hindraf was a testimony to the failure of the prime minister to take nation-building to a new and more mature level.

“It is a retrogressive, vindictive and petty step which will hamper the nation-building healing process vital for Malaysians to feel one and united people again,” he said in a statement.

He said that the “ham-fisted measures to ban Hindraf will only aggravate the disaffection among the Indian community”.

He gave an assurance that opposition MPs will raise in Parliament the banning of Hindraf.

“I invite MPs from all the BN component parties to join with Pakatan Rakyat MPs to take a common stand – to demand that the home minister revoke the ban on Hindraf…,” he said.

So, Malaysians are advised to ” to distance themselves from Hindraf and not participate in any way in any of its activities”. What does that mean? Can I mention the “H” word? Can links be published in blogs or websites? Can SMSes be sent wishing Happy Deepavali, Valghe Hindraf?

Will this be the opportunity to harass every Indian-looking person in the country? Simply stop you and check your handphones? Do roadblocks and target cars driven by Indians? Disperse groups of 5 or more Indians loitering around? Sounds extreme, but this is Bolehland after all. Anything is possible.

Earlier, I wrote about the situation if Hindraf is banned. So, would Hindraf be renamed to Makkal Sakthi? Will the leaders challenge the decision in court? Or will they join a political party to pursue Hindraf’s objectives? No more interviews with Hindraf leaders, so their voice won’t be heard. It will be hard to gather support via the print media, but there’s always SMS and Internet.

If there is a massive show of dissent against this decision, for example, everyone wears orange on next open house or on certain day of the month, would it mean Hindraf still have support?

Whatever it is, HINDRAF has made its mark in Malaysian history. It will always live as a legend in the minds and hearts of the Indian community especially. Only the name is banned, but the spirit and support for the movement will remain strong, if not grow stronger.

Action against HINDRAF under Societies Act

October 9th, 2008
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After Home Minister Syed Hamid started the ball rolling by labeling Hindraf visit to Hari Raya open house as “very threatening“, Deputy Home Minister added that government will take action using the Societies Act 1966.

Funny thing is, Syed Hamid said that the Government would study public feedback on the matter before responding to calls for the Hindu Rights Action Force to be banned. He claimed that the action during the open house could easily have become a danger to public order if the situation had erupted or if one of the members had been carrying something dangerous.

“Security cannot be taken for granted and we are worried about the prospect of other open houses being ambushed in this way.

“We are getting feedback before we decide on the next course of action,” Syed Hamid told The Star.

He declined to reveal what measures, if any, would be taken against the group or how long the Government would collect such feedback.

Syed Hamid, however, pointed out that the Government’s decision would not rest solely on the latest incident, but would encompass all that had transpired in the past with Hindraf.

“We can’t just react to one incident or action and there is no such thing as Hindraf as it is an unlawful society. It is not registered,” he said.

Actually there is something called HINDRAF. If not why are few people upset over nothing? There are many loose entities, like Aman Malaysia for example. Its just a feeling of affiliation.

I agree with this, but for the matter, anyone who visited the open house could have been an assassin, mentally disturbed or depressed, thus its highly likely that future open houses are installed with metal detectors, bomb squads, and also body checks being conducted. Forget Hindraf, you’ll never know when a demented person does something stupid. I remember reading that statistically every one in three person are mentally affected one way or another, which means potentially 8 million Malaysians can do something illogical, stupid, dangerous, and careless. But even if all Indians are HINDRAF supporters, that’s only 1.8 million people. So, whether HINDRAF attended or not, security was lax at the venue. Perhaps the police want to cover up their weakness?

Deputy Home Minister, Senator Datuk Wan Ahmad Farid Wan Salleh, said the government will take action against the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) under the Societies Act 1966 for causing a disturbance during the Hari Raya function hosted by the Prime Minister and Muslim Cabinet ministers at the Putra World Trade Centre in Kuala Lumpur last Wednesday.

He said action would be taken soon on Hindraf, its committee, and members, even though the organisation was not registered.

“Action will be taken. We have many alternatives. Under the Act, whether the organisation is legal or not, it is still an organisation. If it is not legal, action will be taken based on the provisions for an illegal organisation, unless if it is legal then action will be taken under the proper provisions,” he said.

Wan Ahmad Farid said this when asked to comment on calls by several quarters that action be taken against Hindraf for their ’rudeness’ at the function on the first day of Hari Raya.

Wan Ahmad Farid said the government through the Home Ministry would not hesitate to take action against an illegal organisation as it had to follow the law.
“When it comes to the law, there must be no delay. Whatever action taken has to follow procedure and legal channels. What is clear in this matter is that whoever breaks the law must face action,” he said.

Wan Farid Ahmad, however, declined to state what action will be taken aginst Hindraf.

He said when action is taken, Hindraf cannot blame the government, or allege that it had not been given opportunity to voice its views.

I’m a bit lost here. When was HINDRAF given opportunity to air its views? Was it on TV because I missed it. However, if its leaders are taken into custody (fines won’t work), we are looking at 30-odd people being arrested. And definitely stronger support for HINDRAF.

HINDRAF lodges police report against Home Minister and Utusan

October 7th, 2008
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This is a good move from HINDRAF. They should make police report if they believe in the actions. Home Minister Syed Hamid, Utusan and its columnists, plus few other NGO leaders were issuing statements that seemed off tangent and diverting the issue into something else. Not one, but many police reports were lodged throughout the country by HINDRAF members. According to Malaysiakini, Hindraf national coordinator RS Thanenthiran, 46, who lodged the first police report this afternoon, said the movement wanted police to take action on the home minister, Utusan and the NGOs for wrongfully accusing the human rights group of “creating chaos and insulting Islam” during the open house in Putra World Trade Centre, Kuala Lumpur.

“They should be charged under the Sedition Act for inciting communal hatred and instigating racial conflict and under the Penal Code for criminal intimidation by issuing threats to racial harmony,” said Thanenthiran (photo, left), who with Nibong Tebal Hindraf coordinator Sanjeeviramah Subramani, 42, lodged the report in Butterworth police station at 12.50pm.

That report was followed by a series of others lodged by Hindraf leaders and activists in George Town, Nibong Tebal, Simpang Empat, Shah Alam, Petaling Jaya, Klang, Alor Star, Sungai Petani, Jitra, Kulim, Lunas, Ipoh, Bagan Serai, Air Tawar, Parit Buntar, Taiping, Teluk Intan, Sitiawan, Muar, Tangkak, Skudai, Kluang and Johor Bahru. Reports were also lodged this evening in Kuala Lumpur, Kuala Terengganu, Seremban, Malacca and Tanah Merah.

Earlier, HINDRAF said it was planning to sue the same group of people. Now the quantum of claim may be set as high as RM100 million it says.

The movement plans go ahead with a civil suit against the newspaper and home minister and if warranted against the NGOs as well.

Thanenthiran told reporters that Hindraf had decided to raise the quantum of its claims from RM1 million ringgit to perhaps even as high as RM100 million. The movement is now discussing the matter with its lawyers and will file the suits soon.

Last Friday, Utusan had front paged its report with the headline – ‘Hindraf Keterlaluan’ (Extreme Hindraf). Two more articles – Baharom Mahusin’s commentary in his ‘Cetusan’ column and Zulkifli Bakar’s commentary in his ‘Pada Hemat Saya’ column – published in the same edition were unfair and intimidating, alleged Thanenthiran.

“The reports and criticisms were inciting racial hatred and instigating communal conflict. The reports suggested that we trespassed the function when in truth, we were invited,” said Thanenthiran.

“The function was not held in a mosque not a buka puasa event. It was organised in a common public building with an open invitation to all Malayians. Suddenly open houses during festive seasons were given new definitions, thanks to Syed Hamid and Utusan,” he added.

The Hindraf leader also alleged this was not first time the Malay daily had played up communal hatred and conflict against various organisations and individuals in the country.

Thanenthiran also challenged Syed Hamid, Utusan and the NGOs to speak the truth and apologise to the movement for “distorting facts and lying to the public.”