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My understanding (which stands to be corrected) is that the duality is creating problems.
1. The civil marriage should be dissolved in the civil court. the judges agree on this. What if subashini declines to proceed with the divorce? will she be still the legal wife under civil law, but not recognised by syariah law? Can she sue for living expenses, the husband's property etc. later under civil law? If she divorces him, would the property and assets be divided accordingly? how about living subsistence?
2. the husband who converted can pursue his divorce proceedings in shariah court, but it will be recognisable only within islamic domain. so, will the NRD recognise the divorce? If not, will the husband be punished for being legally married to a non-muslim? Can the syariah court accept the divorce result from civil court – to save time and cost and duplicity?
3. Since in syariah law (selangor state), it is said that a parent can convert his/her child as well, what the husband did was correct under law. but this is a cruel and vile act indeed. so much for the compassionate religion. Now the learned judges are telling that there should be an avenue for the other parent to voice objection. what avenue? civil court? then syariah may throw out the civil court judgement since it may be enroaching on islamic issue. if syariah court is the avenue, subashini may not get a fair treatment, besides being non-muslim which means she is not subject to syariah law. so, again another grey area!
4. if each apply for child custody in separate courts, whose judgement will be binding? syariah court may say husband keep the children since they are converted by the husband (how convenient!) while civil court may say subashini keeps the children. or civil court may say that since children have converted, husband gets to keep them. have you seen any worse injustice and perversion of law than this? since the children are product of civil marriage, the children's fate should be decided in civil court. but the cunning husband converts the child and makes him subject to syariah court!
the situation may turn out that subashini gets to raise her children who will be converted to islam by the husband while she is filing another appeal. she can't stop the conversion as it agreed that a parent can do the conversion, no matter how evil, vile and cruel it sounds.
For me, the solution is to ask the husband if he is malaysian first or muslim first. if he is muslim first, kick him out of the country. we don't need such people here. if he is malaysian first, the go to civil court which is open to all malaysian. that's fair in my eyes.
for future cases, JAKIM and other govt agencies must ensure that any would be converts get explicit approval from their families or spouses and settle all divorce/custody/property/asset issues first before converting. perhaps those planning to convert should be given counselling first by their respective religious bodies like Hindu Sangam etc. to ensure the conversion is not superficial or to try bring back the would-be converted back to the original path.
The Subashini case: High Court can hear marriage dispute but…
By : V. Anbalagan
PUTRAJAYA: A High Court has the authority to hear matrimonial disputes of a non-Muslim marriage even if a spouse has converted to Islam.
Federal Court judges Datuk Nik Hashim Nik Abdul Rahman, Datuk Abdul Aziz Mohamad and Datuk Azmel Ma'amor took the unanimous stand yesterday over this longstanding contentious constitutional issue.
However, in a majority ruling, the apex court dismissed R. Subashini's appeal against the dismissal of her injunction application to stop her husband T. Saravanan, whose Muslim name is Muhammad Shafi Abdullah, from dissolving their civil marriage at the syariah court and converting their underage child. Nik Hashim and Azmel in a 2-1 ruling dismissed Subashini's appeal because her divorce petition was filed prematurely.
They also said that the spouse who had converted would not have abused the court process by going to the syariah court to obtain the necessary remedy.
Aziz, who dissented, said since Shafi's date of conversion was unclear, it must be tried before the High Court and as such the injunction should be granted.
All three also held that a spouse who had embraced Islam could convert his or her children without the consent of the other spouse. Aziz, however, said in this case, Subashini must be given the opportunity to object to the conversion.
In the majority judgment written by Nik Hashim, he said section 51 of the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 allowed Subashini to dissolve her marriage on grounds that her husband had converted to Islam. He said a proviso in that section, however, imposed a caveat on the wife not to file the petition of divorce until a lapse of three months from the date of the husband's conversion. Nik Hashim said that Shafi and his elder son, Dharvin Joshua, had converted on May 18 last year and that their certificates of conversion conclusively proved this fact.
He said he agreed with the Court of Appeal majority judgment that Subashini's petition contravened the requirement of the proviso of the section as it was filed two months and 18 days after the conversion. "Therefore, the petition was premature and invalid," he said, adding that it would be appropriate for Subashini to file a fresh petition in the High Court to seek all remedies she wanted.
Nik Hashim said he would proceed to answer the jurisdiction issue although Subashini's petition was invalid because a decision of the Federal Court would be of public advantage. "Assuming the petition was filed three months after the conversion, then the High Court would have the jurisdiction to hear and determine the matter even though the husband had converted and commenced proceedings in the syariah court."
Nik Hashim said the status of the parties at the time of marriage was material in determining the question of jurisdiction. "The husband could not shield himself behind the freedom of religion article in the Federal Constitution to avoid his obligation under the 1976 Act on grounds that the civil court has no jurisdiction over him," he said.
Nik Hashim said by embracing Islam, Shafi and Dharvin were subject to Muslim personal and religious laws and it was not an abuse of process if he sought remedies at the syariah court. "Although, the syariah courts are state courts, they are not lower in status than the civil court. I would say they are of equal standing under the Constitution," he said.
Nik Hashim said Subashini's complaint that Shafi had no right to convert either child to Islam was misconceived because a careful study of the laws revealed that the husband or wife had such right.
Husband’s conversion ‘disputable’
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PUTRAJAYA: Muhammad Shafi Abdullah's conversion is disputable and this has to be determined at the High Court.
Federal Court judge Datuk Abdul Aziz Mohamad said as such he was allowing R. Subashini's appeal to stop Shafi from dissolving their civil marriage in the syariah court.
Aziz said the court must determine whether the conversion date of Shafi was based on his certificate or on facts made available to Subashini. "The (Subashini's) petition was presented on Aug 4 last year. It would escape the (three month) prohibition only if the husband converted on May 4 last year or earlier," he said in his dissenting judgment. (The majority judgment said that Shafi had conclusively converted on May 18 last year.)
Aziz said the civil court had exclusive jurisdiction over dissolution of marriage, maintenance, custody and other ancillary relief because the union was solemnised under Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976. Aziz said Shafi had abused the process in getting the custody of the children in the syariah court because the religious court has no jurisdiction in the custody of a non-Muslim marriage.
He added that Subashini had a right to be heard. "She can object to the conversion or seek an injunction to stop the procedure," he said.
Bar Council: Decision a positive move
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KUALA LUMPUR: Bar Council chairman Ambiga Sreenivasan said the Federal Court's decision was a positive move, as it recognised that the Syariah High Court had no jurisdiction over non-Muslims.
"I need to read the grounds of the judgment in full before I can comment any further. "But judging from the brief report, a positive part of the case is that it has upheld the decision in the case of Tan Sung Mooi v Too Miew Kim, and held that the civil court is the court where dissolution of marriage takes place." In the 1994 case, the court decided that the civil courts would have jurisdiction to annul a marriage where one party was a non-Muslim.
"However, a worrying aspect of the case is it has held that a parent can convert a child, which is not entirely in accord with our reading of the Federal Constitution.
"We think such a decision should require the consent of both parents. Additionally, it doesn't appear to resolve the issues which are faced by couples who are in a similar situation."
more articles in the blog at here and here.