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samy vellu to meet manmohan and karunanithi

December 30th, 2007
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Samy Vellu to meet India’s leaders to explain situation of Indians in Malaysia

BERNAMA

CHENNAI, SUN:

Malaysian Works Minister Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu will meet Indian leaders, including Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, to explain the real situation concerning the Indian community in Malaysia.

Samy Vellu, who is also MIC president, said he would undertake a similar effort with Tamil Nadu Chief Minister S. Karunanidhi.

He said that in view of negative publicity arising from the Nov 25 illegal street demonstrations in Kuala Lumpur involving a group of Indian Malaysians, he would explain to the two leaders the actual position of the Indian community in Malaysia.

Samy Vellu was speaking to Indian journalists after launching a book here today. He is on a stopover here en route to New Delhi to attend the three-day Pravasi Barathiya Divas 2008 conference beginning Jan 7.

Samy Vellu is leading a 70-member delegation comprising MIC leaders and Indian-based non-governmental organisations to the annual gathering of people of Indian origin from all over the world.

“I hope to meet the Indian prime minister on the sidelines of the Pravasi conference and meet the Tamil Nadu chief minister here within the next few days,” he said.

Samy Vellu said it was not true that Indians in Malaysia were deprived of so many things and that many Hindu temples had been demolished arbitrarily.

“Some of the temples were demolished because of court orders as they were built illegally,” he said, adding that many of the temples were relocated to alternative sites.

He also said that the Malaysian government had created many opportunities for Indian Malaysians and many were doing well in various fields.

Samy Vellu expressed hope that his explanation to the Indian government would clear up any misunderstanding over the issue.

Relations between Malaysia and India are strong “and nothing will affect this cordial relationship”, he added.

interview with mother mangalam

December 30th, 2007
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Malaysia's 'saint of the poor'

SYIDA LIZTA AMIRUL IHSAN

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Mother Mangalam focused her life on the Pure Life Society after a prayer was answered in 1976.

Datin Paduka Mother Mangalam Iyaswamy Iyer, 81, president of the Pure Life Society, is a relentless social worker bent on serving the less fortunate. This soft-spoken 'mother' to orphans and underprivileged children speaks to SYIDA LIZTA AMIRUL IHSAN about personal struggles, fellow Malaysians and the power of prayer

Q: The Pure Life Society was registered in 1950 to promote multi-religious, multiracial and multi-cultural understanding. Soon after World War 2, it was involved in rescue work and outreach programmes to help the poor. What lessons have you learned along the way?

A: The war was a very big lesson. Everyone had to struggle and start from scratch. I learned a lot from these struggles; to be resourceful, to be able to live with the bare necessities and to learn the feeling of satisfaction.

Those lessons made me what I am. The war displaced families and children. There were people dying from sickness. It made me think hard and got me to do what I do today.

I am, by nature, very much attached to things and people so I cannot handle unexpected deaths. But at this age I have learned to be more steady and stable.

Q: What are some of your personal highlights?

A: If that means something joyful, it was when I came up first in class in Standard Eight (also known as Junior Cambridge). I had worked hard and the results made me happy. The irony was, it happened in 1941, the same year World War 2 broke out in the country.

There have been more struggles than anything else in my life. Sometimes, I get really down. In 1976, for instance, at the time I needed to put up this building badly, my brother was medically boarded in Singapore. I was the eldest in the family and I was responsible for my siblings. So that took a toll on me. On one hand, I had my family and, on the other, the orphans of the society.

I prayed to God and asked that I be shown a way to continue with my work. A couple of weeks later, my mother called to say my dad won first prize in the lottery (so I didn't need to worry about my family). I could literally feel the burden lifting.

It was a change in my pattern of life and I focused on the society.

Q: What are some of the things you have learned about your fellow Malaysians?

A: Malaysians are really a wonderful lot. Somehow, they rise to the occasion every time help is needed. I just have to think about it and it materialises, whatever the needs are. Just the thought will do. Help comes from all races and it's not just in the form of money, but also in service.

Q: Over the years, do you think Malaysians have become more united or less united?

A: In the beginning, this was in the 1940s and 1950s, there were no differences among the people. It was all very inclusive. We didn't regard each other as Chinese, Malay or Indian.

Unfortunately, now, although people try their level best to come together during functions and events, I think it has become a little superficial, and unity is only on the surface. But as far as I am concerned, everyone is my friend.

This society is not a place that's exclusively for Indians. In fact, the first boy from the society to go to university was a Malay.

Before the 1970s, there were Malay kids here. I must say the situation is much better now.

We had three Malay kids here. We sent them to religious classes to learn more about Islam, cooked special food for Hari Raya and made sure they observed their religious practices like fasting.

We should all think that we are part of the human race. If you peel off the skin, we are all the same; same red blood, same bones, same flesh.

Q: What is it about Malaysia that you cannot find anywhere else? What do you love about this country?

A: It is peaceful and that's a fact. Other than war in the 1940s, this country is generally peaceful. Of course, there are bubbles here and there, but that is quite natural. When there is heat inside, there will be bubbles.

But in this country, if you work hard, you will survive and succeed.

Life is much easier now, a far cry from the time of war when I couldn't even find something as simple as aerated water.

And I love Malaysia for the generosity of its people. When (former prime minister) Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad gave a boost to the Malaysian economy, people had more money to give.

Before that, it was quite difficult to get support. We had to do a lot of fundraising. When the economy got better, people could afford to help more.

Q: Who are your heroes?

A: There are many. Among them are the late Tun Tan Cheng Lock (founder and first president of MCA), the late Pendita Zaaba (educationist and thinker), the late Tun V.T. Sambanthan (former MIC president), the late Datuk Onn Jaafar (Umno founder), the late Tun Mohamed Suffian Hashim (former lord president), and the late Syed Hussein Alatas (founding member of Gerakan).

My heroes also include Raja Muda of Perak Raja Dr Nazrin Shah, Datuk Michael Chong (MCA Public Services and Complaints Department head) and Tan Sri Lee Lam Thye (National Service Training Council chairman).

These people are very broad in their views and understanding. There is an element of wisdom in the way they look at the future.

And I look up to Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad. He really put Malaysia on the world map.

I also admire Toh Puan Dr Aishah Ong (Universiti Malaya pro-chancellor) and Tun Dr Siti Hasmah Mohd Ali. They stood by their husbands through thick and thin. I admire women who stick by their husbands through difficult times.

Q: You were recently conferred the Datuk Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah (DSIS) which carries the title "Datin Paduka" for women by the Sultan of Selangor, Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah. How do you feel about that?

A: I feel the same. I'm still the same Mother Mangalam. I hope this will be of help to the organisation though. The praise goes to the children, staff, people around me and the society. Without them I wouldn't be here. And of course, praise be to God.

Q: During the ceremony, the sultan asked you to advise the Indian community not to be extreme. What was your reaction to his request?

A: I believe it is bad for anyone to be an extremist. We must always be moderate in our approach. What the sultan says is correct. If it's extremism that these people pursue, it is not proper.

We already have enough problems in the world, so extremism by anyone, of any race, anywhere, is bad. But whether the people are really extremists is another question altogether, one that I am not in a position to answer.

Q: What do you think about the youth of today? Living in the post-independence era, do you think they have lost sense of the struggle? What do you think they want?

A: Sadly, I think today's youth just want money without having to work hard for it. They always think in terms of money, and they want to study a subject that gives them a lot of money, not what they are passionate about. They change jobs because they want more money. They must realise that money is not everything in life. I think they have become imbued by this sentiment because of the affluent period in the country.

Children demand a lot of pocket money from their parents these days. "Enjoyment" becomes a prominent word in their vocabulary. There is no end to their desires.

They must learn to be satisfied because that is the greatest wealth. Until you are satisfied, you can never be at peace with yourself.

The word "struggle" has no place in the lives of today's youth. They don't want to struggle, they want everything easy. When they go to university, they want loans and scholarships. Even then, some don't repay their loans.

Q: What is your wish for Malaysia as we enter 2008?

A: I hope the mindset of its people will change. I wish adults, from all levels and positions in society and whatever jobs they hold, will become role models to the young.

This is especially so with teachers and social workers because children imitate and follow them.

Q: What do you want to see improved in the country?

A: I think the first thing people must learn is how to maintain their toilets. Public toilets, school toilets, home toilets, anywhere. Once they know how to do that, everything else will follow.

I think the character of a person can be ascertained from how they manage their waste, how they dispose of rubbish, recycle and keep things clean. It's very important.

Q: Could you please share with us what you think is the quintessential Malaysian experience?

A: Food. We get all types of food here. Unfortunately, I'm diabetic so I usually stick to my diabetic bread and raw vegetables wherever I go. But I like food cooked with a lot of spices.

And the friendliness of the people is, I think, something also uniquely Malaysian.

subashini distraught over possible loss of children

December 29th, 2007
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Only the Sun carried an interview with Subashini while others only focused on the judgment 

After the decision was handed down, Subashini said she was disappointed with the judgement., saying she wished the judges had looked into her rights as a mother.

“It is unfair to treat me like this. I gave birth to our children and I have a right to make a decision about my children, as a mother,” she said in a phone interview with theSun.

“How can they say my estranged husband has the right to convert our second child? Does this mean I will lose my second son as well?” she added.

Subashini has not met her first son, Dharvin Joshua, for the past two years since her husband, Saravanan, converted the boy.

She said Saravanan, was only willing to grant her access to Dharvin in exchange for access to their youngest child, Sharvin.

Subashini said she was willing to give up not seeing Dharvin for fear that Saravanan would convert their second child as well.

“If that happens, then I am afraid that both my kids will be taken away from me, and I will have no one,” she said.

Subashini said it was unfair that her newly-converted husband seems to have been granted more rights over her as a mother.

“Where is my right, as a mother?” she asked, adding that  she was still discussing her next course of action with her lawyer.

Subashini’s lawyer K. Shanmuga told theSun Subashini was distraught over the judgment.

“She’s uncertain about her future and her children’s future. It’s a blow to her because she’s been told she can’t stop her husband from going to the syariah court to get orders regarding the breakup of their marriage, and she can’t stop him from converting their younger child,” he said.

Civil or Syariah, still unclear
R.Surenthira Kumar and Jacqueline Ann Surin

http://sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=20334

PUTRAJAYA (Dec 27, 2007): In handing down what is widely seen as an equivocal decision today, the Federal Court drew away from answering the question of which court, civil or Syariah, has exclusive jurisdiction to hear cases involving non-Muslim spouses whose partners had converted to Islam.

However the apex court made it clear, when it unanimously decided, that the High Court still has jurisdiction to hear cases involving non-Muslim spouses involved in a matrimonial disputes, even though the other partner had converted to Islam.

This was among the rulings that the three-man panel of judges handed down in the decision of the much awaited case of R.Subashini vs T.Saravanan today.

In the 2-1 decision,  the head of the panel Datuk Nik Hashim Nik Abd Rahman and Datuk Azmel Ma’amor concurred while Datuk Abdul Aziz Mohamad gave a dissenting judgement.

The rulings allow Saravanan, 31, whose Muslim name is Muhammad Shafi Abdullah to continue to seek recourse in the syariah court while Subashini, 29, can proceed to file for divorce proceedings in the civil court.

Nik Hashim said by embracing Islam, the husband and the son became subject to Muslim personal and religious laws and it is not an abuse of process if Saravanan, being a Muslim, seeks remedies in the Syariah High Court as it is his right to do so.

The Federal court however cautioned that questions may arise as to whether Subashini would be bound by the syariah court's decisions because she is not a Muslim.

“To my mind, the dissolution order of the civil marriage by the Syariah High Court by virtue of conversion would have no legal effect in the High Court other than as evidence of the fact of the dissolution of the marriage under the Islamic law in accordance with Hukum Syarak," said Nik Hashim.

"Thus, the non-Muslim marriage between the husband and wife remains intact amd continues to subsist until the High Court dissolves it pursuant to a petition for divorce by the unconverted spouse under Section 51(1) of the 1976 Act,” he added.

Nik Hashim said there is no impediment for Saravanan to appear in the divorce proceeding at the High Court albeit as respondent, as the jurisdiction of the High Court extends to him, unlike the Syariah High Court which restricts its jurisdiction to persons professing the religion of Islam only.

The court also paved the way for Saravanan to carry on with his other aims, including to seek custody of the two children and conversion of the second child to Islam, when the court set aside the Erinford injunctions obtained by Subashini previously against Saravanan.

But in this particular case, the court ruled that it could not grant the injunction because Subashini’s divorce petition was premature, due to the fact it was filed short of the three-month requirement.

Saravanan’s lawyer had argued during the trial that she had ignored the Islamic imposition of waiting for three menstrual cycles to lapse first.

Saravanan had previously converted his elder son to Islam when he embraced Islam on May 18, 2006.

“The wife’s petition was filed in contravention of the requirement under proviso to Section 51(1) of the 1976 Act in that it was filed two months and 18 days short of three months after the husband’s conversion to Islam,” said Nik Hashim.

He added it follows therefore that the petition was premature and invalid and the summons-in-chambers, ex-parte and inter parte based on the petition which were filed therein were also invalid.

Nik Hashim said the wife is entitled to proceed with the rest of the application but it would be most appropriate she files her petition for divorce afresh under Section 51 coupled with an application for ancillary reliefs as the court would grant the reliefs under Section 51(2) upon the dissolution of the marriage.

On the issue of whether, one parent can prevent the other from converting the religion of their children, Nik Hashim and Azmel ruled that either party cannot refrain the other from doing so.

Abdul Aziz howver disagreed, saying the opposing party has a right for his/her objections to be heard.

The Federal court also unanimously ruled the courts are eligible to grant Erinford injunctions to the disputing parties, to temporarily halt orders from the other courts, pending the applications to seek for leave to appeal to the higher courts.

After the decision was handed down, Subashini said she was disappointed with the judgement., saying she wished the judges had looked into her rights as a mother.

“It is unfair to treat me like this. I gave birth to our children and I have a right to make a decision about my children, as a mother,” she said in a phone interview with theSun.

“How can they say my estranged husband has the right to convert our second child? Does this mean I will lose my second son as well?” she added.

Subashini has not met her first son, Dharvin Joshua, for the past two years since her husband, Saravanan, converted the boy.

She said Saravanan, was only willing to grant her access to Dharvin in exchange for access to their youngest child, Sharvin.

Subashini said she was willing to give up not seeing Dharvin for fear that Saravanan would convert their second child as well.

“If that happens, then I am afraid that both my kids will be taken away from me, and I will have no one,” she said.

Subashini said it was unfair that her newly-converted husband seems to have been granted more rights over her as a mother.

“Where is my right, as a mother?” she asked, adding that  she was still discussing her next course of action with her lawyer.

Subashini’s lawyer K. Shanmuga told theSun Subashini was distraught over the judgment.

“She’s uncertain about her future and her children’s future. It’s a blow to her because she’s been told she can’t stop her husband from going to the syariah court to get orders regarding the breakup of their marriage, and she can’t stop him from converting their younger child,” he said.

Meanwhile, Saravanan's lawyer  Zainul Rijal Abu Bakar, said it was difficult for him to respond to the latest development in the court case as they have yet to get the full written judgment.

"We have to wait for the full judgment first as we need to see what we can or cannot do. We have to see the reasonings of the judgment," he said to theSun when contacted today.

Subashini loses bid to stop her son's conversion by her estranged husband

PUTRAJAYA (Dec 27, 2007): The Federal Court today threw out a bid by a Hindu woman to stop her estranged husband from converting their youngest son to Islam.

Her case is another sign of strain in the social fabric of the multi-racial nation,where many non-Muslims believe their rights are being trampled by the Muslim majority.

R.Subashini took legal action after her husband converted himself and their elder son, now four, to Islam in 2006. She says she now fears the husband wants to take their two-year-old, who still lives with her, and convert him to Islam as well.

The Federal Court rejected her request for an injunction on technical grounds, leaving her free to try again, but one judge noted the court's jurisdiction was limited, given the husband was now a Muslim and therefore governed by Islamic or syariah law.

"The civil and syariah courts cannot interfere with each other's jurisdiction," said Nik Hashim Nik Abdul Rahman, one of two judges who dismissed the case One judge dissented.

Family law has become an emotional battleground between Malaysia's religious communities, with non-Muslims complaining civil courts are too willing to surrender jurisdiction to their Islamic counterparts in cases involving a Muslim conversion.

Marriages between Muslims and non-Muslims are forbidden in Malaysia, so once a non-Muslim spouse converts to Islam, the union is broken, lawyers say. While it can still exist under civil law, in reality the Islamic court does not recognise it.

A lawyer for Subashini said although his client's case failed on a technicality, the judges' comments made it clear they recognised the husband's right, as a newly converted Muslim, to have recourse to the Islamic courts.

"The High Court has jurisdiction to hear matters when this is a non-Muslim marriage but the husband also has a right to syariah court under Islamic Law," lawyer K. Shanmuga said when asked by reporters to sum up the ruling's significance.

Subashini, a 29-year-old clerk, had initially asked the High Court to prevent her husband from gaining custody of both their sons through the syariah courts.

Her husband, a 32-year-old businessman, had converted to Islam and when he conveyed the news to his wife, she attempted suicide and was admitted to hospital.

After her hospitalisation, she discovered her husband had converted their eldest son to Islam.

Her lawyers had told the Federal Court the civil system was the right place for this case because she was not a Muslim.

They cited a landmark ruling by the Federal Court in July which stated that if one party was a non-Muslim, the syariah court had no jurisdiction. This was a rare ruling that went against a tide of decisions granting jurisdiction to the Islamic courts. – Reuters    

MCA happy with Subashini judgement!

December 29th, 2007
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I'll take this as a polite reply from MCA, just glossing over the positives of the judgement. No doubt the Chinese papers would have highlighted the negative impact from the judgement.

Wonder where's MIC's statement? I think can replace "MCA" with "MIC" in the MCA's statement.

MCA lauds ruling on matrimonial disputes

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KUALA LUMPUR: The MCA welcomes the Federal Court ruling that the civil court has jurisdiction to hear and decide on matrimonial disputes involving a spouse who has converted to Islam. 

Its president Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting said yesterday that the landmark decision had removed the confusion over the issue of jurisdiction between civil and syariah courts on such matrimonial matters. 

On Thursday, the Federal Court ruled that the dispute between R. Subashini and her Muslim-convert husband T. Saravanan over the dissolution of their marriage and child custody would continue to be under the jurisdiction of the civil court. 

“We respect Islam. Under the Federal Constitution, the rights of the non-Muslims are protected,” Ong said after chairing the party presidential meeting at Wisma MCA adding that MCA had always voiced out the concern of non-Muslims at Cabinet and government meetings. 

confusion still exist over Subashini judgement

December 29th, 2007
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President of the Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism Datuk A.Vaithilingam said it amounted to “a gross injustice''. 

“The other non-Muslim parent will not be able to re-convert the child out of Islam. The child will also be deprived of its right to convert out of Islam at the age of 18. “A child's religion should not be changed without the consent of both parents. Failing to do so will cause much heartbreak,'' he said. 

What is obvious for now is that there is a very unhappy woman who is staring at the prospect of losing both her sons to her estranged husband as a result of the views made in the majority judgment. 

As for me, I'm still confused why a Hindu couple gave a Christian name to their son 🙂 Truly muhibbah?

Recourse for spouses who don’t convert

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ANALYSIS BY CHELSEA L.Y.NG

IT MAY have been a 2-1 majority decision by the Federal Court, but the final result was the landmark ruling that the Family Court has exclusive power to decide on matters involving divorce and custody rights of a couple of which one spouse has become a Muslim. 

That makes it both an affirmative and encouraging situation. Malaysians have been waiting for some time for a stand to be taken on this issue. 

In an immediate response to the news, Bar Council chairman Ambiga Sreenivasan described the apex court’s decision as a positive move. 

“It recognises that the Syariah High Court has no jurisdiction over non-Muslims.  

“These include upholding the judicial precedent of the Tan Sung Mooi vs Too Miew Kim case in the Supreme Court in 1994, which ruled that conversion to Islam did not allow a person to avoid his legal obligations under his non-Muslim marriage,” said Ambiga. 

Stemming from the divorce and custody tussle between R. Subashini, a Hindu, and her Muslim convert husband, T. Saravanan, the case became a public interest matter. 

The case which began in the civil and Syariah High Courts last year finally reached its climax this week with the delivery of the judgment by the Federal Court. The much-awaited judgment is lucid and there is no doubt that it gives some sort of recourse for non-Muslims whose spouses have converted. Prior to this, there have also been decisions to the effect that the civil marriage ends when a spouse has converted. 

In this latest judgment, the panel was unanimous that there was nothing to stop the Muslim spouse from appearing as a respondent in divorce proceedings at the civil High Court as the jurisdiction of that court extends to him. On the other hand, it ruled that the non-Muslim spouse could not go to the Syariah High Court because its jurisdiction is restricted to persons professing the religion of Islam only. 

The court also unanimously ruled that civil courts could grant Erinford injunctions to the disputing parties, to temporarily halt orders from the other courts, pending an appeal to the appellate court. 

Essentially, two judgments were handed down – one by Justice Nik Hashim Nik Ab Rahman to which the third judge Justice Azmel Maamor concurred with, while the other was by Justice Abdul Aziz Mohamad. 

Both supported the view mentioned so far but they disagreed on the point that a Muslim spouse would be committing abuse of court process by seeking custody recourse in the syariah court. Justice Abdul Aziz was of the view that such acts amounted to an abuse of process as the dissolution of their civil marriage were matters “not within the syariah court’s jurisdiction”. 

Justice Nik Hashim ruled the opposite. He said Saravanan had a right to seek remedies in the syariah court as a Muslim and that his filing for dissolution of the marriage in the syariah court was not an abuse of the court process. He was, however, quick to add that Saravanan could not shirk his obligations under the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 by hiding behind the rights to freedom of religion. 

“It must be noted that both the husband and wife were Hindus at the time of marriage. Therefore, the status of the husband and wife at the time of registering their marriage is of material importance. Otherwise the husband’s conversion would cause injustice to the unconverted wife, including the children,” Justice Nik Hashim said. 

Although these were seen as rather constructive developments, there were concerns about the view in the majority decision that Saravanan, whose Muslim name is Muhammad Shafi Abdullah, was not wrong in converting his elder son to Islam without the consent of the boy’s mother. 

Ambiga labels this a “worrying” situation. “Overall, I believe the judgment may not have actually resolved the dilemma of people with similar problems,” she said. 

President of the Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism Datuk A.Vaithilingam said it amounted to “a gross injustice''. “The other non-Muslim parent will not be able to re-convert the child out of Islam. The child will also be deprived of its right to convert out of Islam at the age of 18. 

“A child's religion should not be changed without the consent of both parents. Failing to do so will cause much heartbreak,'' he said. 

What is obvious for now is that there is a very unhappy woman who is staring at the prospect of losing both her sons to her estranged husband as a result of the views made in the majority judgment. 

But all is not lost for the mother of two. The majority judgment did say that it was throwing out her case on a legal technicality and she could file her divorce petition afresh at the Family Court. 

The reason the court had thrown out her appeal and declared her current petition invalid was because she had filed it prematurely – two months and 18 days after her husband’s conversion, instead of waiting at least three months.  It however, added that Subashini was entitled to proceed with her application for custody rights of her children but it would be most appropriate if she filed her petition for divorce afresh. 

In the meantime, there is nothing to stop Saravanan from going to the syariah court to seek recourse and remedies, which included converting his younger son to Islam. He has two sons from the marriage with Subashini. They are Dharvin Joshua, four, and two-year-old Sharvin. Saravanan claims that he converted the elder child to Islam last year.