Posts Tagged ‘Religion’

Hudud splits Pakatan

January 9th, 2009
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Well well well, Anwar’s support for Hudud law for Muslims only creates a storm for DAP, especially Karpal Singh.

PKR will not reject outright PAS’ plan to implement hudud law, said its de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.

He also dismissed Karpal Singh’s remark that such legislation was unconstitutional, saying that the DAP chairman was making a general statement.

He said there was no need to reject the proposal as it was only applicable to Muslims.

What was needed, said Anwar, was an in depth discussion among Pakatan Rakyat partners on contentious issues which had resurfaced following a debate between PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa and Umno Youth deputy head Khairy Jamaluddin.

Hudud is not something new. There is allocation for it in Islam. This is what PAS has been saying all along, that it is solely for the Muslims,” he told reporters after launching the PKR main operation room for the Kuala Terengganu parliamentary by-election yesterday.

According to Anwar, all opposition parties understood Islam and that its legislative aspects should not just be confined to Syariah family or civil law.

Describing himself as a practising Muslim, Anwar stressed there was no blanket answer on hudud and that he would not emulate what former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad did, which was to oppose and reject outright hudud law when PAS first proposed it without fully understanding the issue.

He said detailed discussions on the issue could clear the air.

He also urged all dissenting voices to study the specific proposal and its provisions closely before opening their mouths.

TV3 Nightline showed a press statement from Karpal who claimed that for Hudud to be implemented, the status of country should changed to islamic state. However, since Malaysia is secular (well actually its neither there nor here), implementing Hudud is unconstitutional. Malaysiakini extract below:

PKR leader Anwar Ibrahim’s statement that people should not worry about PAS’ intention to implement hudud laws as it would only be applicable to Muslims, was today called a fallacy by DAP stalwart Karpal Singh.

He said this was because Anwar’s statement was “diametrically opposed to PAS’ avowed aim to turn Malaysia into an Islamic state” which Karpal believes would also mean the indiscriminate implementation of hudud laws.

“This has been PAS’ stand from its inception as is clearly reflected by the statements by former and present leaders of PAS.

“In fact, (PAS spiritual leader) Nik Aziz is on record to have said on Dec 22 last year that PAS would implement hudud laws with or without the support of DAP and PKR,” said Karpal in a statement today.

Both News Straits Times and The Star on Dec 23 reported on Nik Aziz’ persistence that his party would pursue the implementation of hudud laws even without the support of its other Pakatan Rakyat coalition members.

He was also quoted as saying that he could not understand why DAP was rejecting hudud laws when he believed they were similar to western laws.

“In light of this statement, there is a fallacy in Anwar’s assertion that hudud laws would only be applicable to Muslims,” Karpal reasoned.

“The pre-requisite of implementing hudud laws is the setting up of an Islamic state and as such, it is wrong for Anwar to imply that the implementation of hudud laws would not affect everyone including the non-Muslims.

“It is important for Anwar to know exactly what PAS intends to do in calling for the setting up of an Islamic state,” Karpal added.

… Meanwhile, Karpal said PAS president Hadi Awang should clear the air as to whether hudud laws were intended to be made applicable to both Muslims and non-Muslims in the event PAS succeeded in setting up an Islamic state.

“In the public interest, he should do so,” said the veteran DAP leader.

Nevertheless, Karpal reiterated DAP’s stand that the country is not an Islamic state and that the implementation of hudud laws would be “unconstitutional”.

Looks like Pakatan had fallen into BN’s trap.

For me, even though they claim Hudud will be only for muslims, sooner or later it will start to interfere in everybody’s lives. That’s inevitable since the nature of their religion is intrusive (my opinion). As it is, we have lots of problem with syariah laws and implementation by the relevant departments.
Having hudud will mean a death trap of sorts for the rest of malaysians people. Personally, i think even the more liberal muslims will not support it. imagine those famous personalities can’t wear strapless gowns at high class dinners. Muslim college students have to cover up (i still having shock over the way some of them dress at a certain uni in cyberjaya – MAIS officers will have a good time there), mat rempits having their body parts chopped off if found guilty of robbing (ok, i’m over-reacting here!).

Lack of burial plots

December 20th, 2008
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Today I attended a funeral ceremony of Then’s ex-colleague’s husband, Benjamin. He passed away suddenly due to heart attack on Friday early morning. The ceremony was held at Tamil Metodist Church, Brickfields.

I was surprised that the deceased was to be cremated. I didn’t know that cremation was practised by Christians. I inquired with fellow attendees, and they said its acceptable. It seems there’s a severe shortage of burial plots.

I met Mr Ben twice, once at their home. He was a very nice and jovial person. Full of jokes and ably entertained us as a good host. We pray that his soul rests in peace and may God grant his family strength to move on.

Yoga ban for Malaysian Muslims

November 22nd, 2008
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So, its finally announced that Yoga is not allowed for Muslims. Read it at Malaysiakini and The Star.

One person told me it’s a good news – One less Hinduism knowledge to be exploited by others and its their loss, so why should Hindus cry over it.

The Fatwa council says the physical movements, chanting and worshipping aspects of yoga makes it haram. So, unless those yoga centers manage to strip Yoga of the above three things, its time to put a notice “for non-muslims only”.

Well, I’m not sure whose loss it is, but definitely there are many ways to overcome this ban. One can go to other countries and learn it there 🙂 It seems only Singapore and Egypt has similar bans.

Should Syariah and Civil laws merge?

November 20th, 2008
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There’s suggestion by retired Chief Justice:

On Nov 6, retired Chief Justice Tun Abdul Hamid Mohamad said he foresaw that the combination of the two courts would harmonise common law and Syariah law principles in dealing with issues of conflicting laws and jurisdiction during his lecture at the Harvard Law School in the United States.

This is comment from Syariah Court Judge and Syariah Judicial Department director-general Datuk Ibrahim Lembut:

Islam will defend everybody. The impression that merging the two court systems will override the rights of the non-Muslims is wrong, he said.

Syariah laws and Islam will think of every religion and race, he told reporters after attending the International Seminar on Comparative Law at Marriott Hotel here yesterday.

However, we still have a long way to go before we can merge the two court systems although we have held talks between civil and Syariah lawyers on the possibility of harmonising the laws, he said, adding that Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail had also given his views on the matter during the meeting.

Ibrahim said some civil lawyers attending such talks had refused to even consider harmonising the laws between the two systems.

He was commenting on a statement by MCA legal bureau chairman Datuk Leong Tang Chong that any merger would subject non-Muslims to Syariah jurisdiction on all legal matters, including inter-faith cases relating to marriage and divorce.

What do you think?

I think rather than merging both sets of laws, there should be some sort of bridge to link them both. Why should one be tried under a religious law which one does not profess to be part of? I think this idea may be construed as part of a long term strategy to Islamise the country. nearly 50 percent of the country’s population are not Muslims. Thus it is not wise to impose a law that does not relate to them in any way.

It would be better to study the overlapping laws, holes, and gray areas between two laws and clear them up. No one likes to see spouses make use of laws to manipulate children, nor do public like to read that families fighting over properties of the deceased, or bodies being snatched by religious department officers.

For those cases involving marriages being dissolved due to one party converting, then the marriage dissolution should follow civil law. Clear the slate, each person go on his own way. This is only natural as the marriage was done under civil law. So, BEFORE the person want to convert, divorce first.

Same goes for conversion. Those who are married must start fresh by divorcing their spouses and declaring their assets which are divided accordingly. For those who are single, the next-of-kin must acknowledge that he/she has been informed of the impending conversion. NOTE that its not an approval, but an acknowledgment so that family members are aware BEFORE conversion, and not after. The next-of-kin then knows that the body of the convert will end up in Muslim graveyard. No confusion.

For me, the problem is clear. Issues only arise when a party converts. Solve the problem at the root. Setup up proper documentation and procedures.

Your religion onto you … my religion unto mine ….

Non Muslims shouldn’t interfere with Fatwa Council

November 10th, 2008
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I agree with Zahid’s statement that non-muslim NGOs should not challenge the fatwa council’s credibility. Why should non-Muslims be bothered about those ridiculous statements and rules issued by their religion for their followers? Unless such rules look down/insult our religions, we should stay as far away from this council. For example, if the council decides to rule Yoga as haram, then, they should put in a nice sentence, not make Yoga a devil’s tool, or humiliate other religion/beliefs just to make theirs stand our better.

Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid
Hamidi today told non-Muslim non-governmental organisations (NGOs) not
to challenge the National Fatwa Council’s credibility.

He said it was unfair to challenge or dispute a fatwa issued by the
council purely on logic because it could create confusion among the
people.

The issue of “pengkid” (tomboyism) for example had
become a social problem when the Department of Islamic Development
Malaysia received complaints and on that ground, the Fatwa Council felt
it was necessary to issue a fatwa on it, he said.

“The problem
of a girl running away with a boy can be solved using the law but what
about a girl running away with a girl who looks like a boy?” he told
reporters here.

Zahid said if the NGOs were confused or wanted
further explanations on the background of a fatwa, he was willing to
organise a forum.

The NGOs or non-Muslim writers would not resort to
disputing or challenging a fatwa but instead respect it should
discussions be held, he said commenting on the protest staged by
non-Muslim NGOs — “Katagender” and “Foot-not-Bombs” — on Friday against
the Fatwa Council ruling that “pengkid” is haram.

I just remembered something someone said – if so many agama lessons and agama classes does nothing to improve the condition, do you think a fatwa will achieve anything at all? Not that I’m against the rules, but perhaps the solution lies in other areas, rather than issuing fatwas.

Non-muslim NGOs should not fight against such rulings on behalf of others. If the muslims are indeed against certain fatwa ruling, let them voice out. There’s millions of them, with many many NGOs. Surely got many channels to highlight their objection.