Spot Light: Leafing through your life
SUGANTHI SUPARMANIAM
Vatta Ezhuthu can tell one’s past, present and future. |
It is an ancient system of prediction, written on palmyra leaves. Previously known only to a select group of people, the naadi astrology of India is growing in popularity. It has even been featured in documentaries, including on Discovery Channel. SUGANTHI SUPARMANIAM turns over the leaves
| T. Ramesh (left) reading a script for Shanmugam. On Shanmugam’s right is his daughter Praba. | |
| Sivapalan Govindasamy says the readings are accurate but cautions against wrong interpretations by astrologers |
KUALA LUMPUR: A. Shanmugam sat transfixed. The naadi astrologer had just read out his name and those of his parents and siblings.
"I was astonished. Reading the naadi olai (dried palmyra leaves), he could even tell that my mother had two names," said the technician.
Recalling the first time he had gone to see a naadi astrologer in 2002, Shanmugam said the astrologer took his thumbprint and checked it against several bundles of olai.
"I was told to say only yes or no as he read from the olai. He asked if my name started with ‘Pa’ or ‘Re’ or ‘Mu’. When he said ‘Sha’, I said yes. He asked if my name was Shanmugam.
"He then asked if my parents were named so and so and if I had this number of siblings and if I worked as a technician.
"However, when he came to the name of my wife, he said it was Manogari. My wife’s name is Maheshwari. He then said this was not my olai and asked me to come again in two weeks.
"This time, all the information about me fell into place. But I am amazed that such information about me could be contained in the olai said to have been written by sages ages ago.
"I am also amazed that there could be another man with my name and whose parents and siblings have similar names but who has a wife called Manogari.
"Since then I have seen the naadi astrologer 17 times. I find there is truth in what is said in the olai, at least for me," he added.
Shanmugam is just one of the many people who are consulting naadi astrologers to find out their past, present and future.
After being told by a Chinese friend about the naadi astrologers, Chiew Chee Hoong, 50, from Subang Jaya went to find out.
"My friend told me the readings were accurate. I went to the astrologer, gave him my thumb- print and within minutes he found a script and read out my name," he said.
He added that he was happy with the reading and described it as accurate.
He said he would be performing a special prayer as instructed in the olai.
Businessman Tan Chee Meng, 45, from Rawang said he felt something was missing in his life and decided to consult a naadi astrologer.
"I was shocked with what the astrologer told me. The accuracy of it was scary, he even came up with my ex-wife’s name," he said, adding that the results were immediate as after performing a prayer suggested by the astrologer, business picked up.
The naadi astrologer can tell why someone is leading a happy life or a miserable life. Or what life holds for the future.
Also, he can offer remedial advice.
This ancient Indian art of prediction is said to have been written by sages, called siddhars, thousands of years ago. The predictions were written on olai in Vattu Ezhuthu, a Tamil script, using a sharp, nail-like instrument called ezhuthani.
It can only be deciphered by expert naadi astrologers.
Universiti Malaya lecturer G. Sivapalan, who teaches siddhar philosophy and Indian astrology, said he was a non-believer.
He said he changed his opinion when his sick sister became well after consulting a naadi astrologer in India, who, through the naadi, directed him to meet a doctor in a hospital.
"I had taken my sister to many specialists here and I figured I had nothing to lose so we looked for the doctor.
"We asked around for a doctor with the initials given by the astrologer and found him. True enough, after consulting him, my sister became well," said Sivapalan.
He believes naadi readings are accurate but cautioned against wrong interpretations by the astrologers who read them. Some astrologers, he said, had money on their mind and these people often made mistakes.
Sivapalan added that mistakes could also creep in when astrologers made copies of the olai as each leaf only lasts about 200 years.
He said naadi astrology made its debut in Malaysia in the 1980s and many of these astrologers from India had been coming here ever since.
He said he had written down interpretations made by naadi astrologers for more than 800 people here.
Naadi astrologer R. Sentil Kumar said only certain people were fated to know their past, present and future through the naadi system. He said the naadi also provided ways to reduce the impact of bad karma or overcome obstacles.
"Incurable diseases are cured if they follow the instructions in the naadi. However, the influence of past karma affects a person so badly that sometimes it is written in the olai itself that that person should not be helped with remedial measures," he said, adding that such people had committed atrocities in their previous births.
Sentil said his clients included Malaysians, Singaporeans, Germans and Japanese who came to India to read their olai.
Another astrologer, T. Ramesh, who has been reading olai for more than 16 years, agreed with Sivapalan about misinterpretations of the naadi and added that true readers of the naadi were born, not made.
"Sometimes, people come here with questions and the answers will appear in their naadi," he said.
Ramesh said naadi astrology was different from ordinary astrology as only through naadi could a person know his past karma (actions done in previous lives). He said with this knowledge, a person could better understand his circumstances today.
He has read the olai for more than 20,000 Malaysians.
Brief history
THE naadi inscriptions are said to have been written in India thousands of years ago by sages on olai or dried palmyra leaves, using their yogic intuitive powers.
Over the centuries, the olai were passed on from father to son or master to disciple.
In recent times, many of these bundles of olai were collected and stored in the Saraswati Mahal Library in Tanjore, south India.
When the British came, they are said to have sold off some of these olai to locals, mostly astrologers.
The olai were handed down over the generations.
Young people were given training in how to read the naadi.
It soon became a means of livelihood for many.
The olai are preserved by rubbing them with peacock oil on auspicious occasions.
The main centre of naadi astrology is in and around Vaitheeswarankoil, near Chidambaram, in Tamil Nadu.
How it is read
THE thumbprint of the seeker is taken and is used to identify the seeker’s olai from the numerous manuscripts in the astrologer’s possession.
If the person is lucky, his olai will be with that particular astrologer. If not, he will have to look for it from other astrologers.
Sometimes the olai containing his information might have been lost or destroyed and he will not be able to have his olai read.
Once the astrologer locates the particular bundle, he begins to read from each olai and asks the person a series of questions about his life, to identify the correct olai.
This process can take a few minutes or several hours.
Once the correct olai is located, the astrologer reads from it, describing the person’s life in detail.
The astrologer will also suggest remedial measures for a person to reduce the influence of past karma and enhance the benefit of future activities.
Can I have the address or the phone number of Mr T.Ramesh (the nadi reader). You can call me on my handphone 01x-xxx xxxx. Thank you.
MP: Sorry, I dont have any details. You may have to call NST and talk to the reporter involved.
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Hi!
Did anyone manage to get the contact no for Mr T.Ramesh? I have been trying to get his contact for some time now, but until todate to no success….
Sorry for any inconvenience caused
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You can try emailing the NST’s news team at news@nstp.com.my
OR refer to their contact’s page here and ask for Ms Suganthi Supramaniam, the reporter who wrote the article.
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MP: hope you can share with us the info, or email me so that in future I can pass it to others as well.
Hi!
I manage to get the information that I wanted.
Just wanted to ‘Thank’ You.
Take Care
Maya
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krishna reply on June 23rd, 2008:
can i get a ctc of Mr. T.Ramesh
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Kanmani reply on August 28th, 2008:
Can i get contact no of Mr T. Ramesh
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Radha reply on December 10th, 2008:
May I know the contact information for the reader?
Thank you
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MP: pls READ the earlier comments.
How can get the contact ?
pls email me at coollguy100@gmail.com
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I got contact from mr ramesh and went there to get a reading. they register my thumb print and ask my dob and time. Ask a question to find out my leaf. He just give back the answer from the question he me. he is just a crook like any other nadi reader. for person who wanted to visit him beware. Now I know that the true nadi reader will not ask our date of birth and time. we only need to register the thumb print only.
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john reply on May 14th, 2008:
This is the first time i heard about this, i recently heard from a friend of mine, i couldn’t believe it until everyone on this website are telling the same thing. I damn curious about this odi chulai thing, where exactly can i see this or MR T Ramesh, anybody pls give the details or contact at this e-mail jon_77_88@yahoo.com. is it true??
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can i get the address or phone number T.Ramesh(the naadi reader).
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Ashika reply on January 11th, 2009:
i have his number but are v talkin bout the same astrologer??? at brickfileds??
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vanakam,
i want to look olai chudi and want to know my history
want to know, how is my marrige life and my future
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sangeetha reply on January 9th, 2009:
Hi Saresvathy, there is a genuine nadi reader. If you are not married you can see Chapter seven and it is mandate that you have to see Chapter 1, 13 and 14 and perform poojas whatever given in Olai Chuvadi. You can mail me at sangeetha_74@yahoo.com or call me at 9841735461
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Hello ppl.
jus came across this page.. jus to let u all know tat i have met this astrologer name T.Ramesh and all he said was so true.. seriously i felt as if y didnt i cm ther earlier… u guys wanna meet him to??
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Xquisit reply on February 3rd, 2009:
Hi Ashika
Appreciate if you provide me his details.
I will be making a trip to India sometime Mar 09
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Xquisit reply on February 3rd, 2009:
This keep hiding
Please e-mail me at devinely_unique@hotmail.com
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Krish reply on February 6th, 2009:
Hi Ashika,
Would appreciate if you can provide me his contact details.
Thanking you in advance.
Rgds
Krish
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ashika reply on February 2nd, 2010:
@Krish,
0163570527
if u go pls tell me if he is tellin all truth for u
ashika2804@yahoo.com
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Sam reply on April 27th, 2009:
Hi Ashika,
I too will be visiting Mr Ramesh soon (Brickfeilds) and will let you know how it went.
When you had your reading, did he ask for your date of birth and time of birth? I am very sceptical of readers asking this from me, as they can always draw up a horoscope right there and then, and there is no way of knowing if they are actually reading the palm leaf !
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Preeti reply on July 24th, 2009:
Hi,
I would like to get the contact number for the olai chudi master. can anyone please let me know d details at preeti313@hotmail.com
Thank You Very Much.
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ashika reply on February 2nd, 2010:
@Preeti,
016 3570527
ashika reply on February 2nd, 2010:
@Sam,
hello his number is 016 3570527
behind vivekananda ashramam hall…
u can e-mail me at ashika2804@yahoo.com for any doubts
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athi reply on April 28th, 2009:
hi ashika,
im athi. i would like to know how can i contact mr.t.ramesh? if u hv his contact, can u give to me? i will appreciate for your help. tq
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I require the T Ramesh contact, Can you please call me or email to me;
rmd_flo@hotmail.com. Thanks
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can i have mr.t.ramesh’s ctc number ??.pls….i need to consult him URGENTLY..
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Can anyone mail T Ramesh contact number to me
sarandsx@gmail.com.
Thanks.
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I wan to see olai chudi, pls email me T.Ramesh h/p no…urgent
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B.Yoges reply on June 25th, 2009:
Im not married yet, facing a prob to settle in marriage life…need advise through olai chudi…tq
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I have seen before but I want a double confirmation….so thought of seing a different one. Can I have the nadi reader’s number pls. Please mail it reema_55@hotmail.com. I’m from Klang Valley.
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Interested in getting a reading but afraid of being conned, somebody pls mail me dofusm@gmail.com the contact no. of reader if they have the information. Thank you.
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I don’t know what is my birthday?
I just know that my born place is monday. Can you please advice.
Thank you.
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could i please have the master’s contact details..
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Hi could any1 mail me his contact number at nemrod8281@hotmail.com
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”GOD BLESS EVERY ONE IN THIS WORLD”
Hello,
My dear Brothers and Sisters, i appreciate that if any one of you guys can give me the contact no of Astrologer Mr T Ramesh.
Thank you very much.
below are my e-mail address : spsevam@yahoo.com or robert@dragonflydesign.com.my.
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Dear friends
I will be so thankful if anyone of people would give me the contact number for the olai chudi astrologer Mr T ramesh. Please do let me know d details at : teeran_vtech@yahoo.com
Thank you for your kind information
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I just came back from meeting mr ramesh.. his number is 016-3570527 or 016-9665039… And trust me, the olai reading is true..
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Ravin reply on December 28th, 2009:
What are the charges please Brina?
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I MARRIED 3 YEARS READY BUT I NO HAVE BABY.ANY ADVISE FROM OLAI CHUDI
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I HAVE SEEN MR T.RAMESH AND SO FAR HE SAID ALL IS TRUE..
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Gulab reply on February 1st, 2010:
@ASHIKA,
Ashika can i know where is this place?
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ashika reply on February 2nd, 2010:
@Gulab,
Hi his number is 016-3570527
its behind vivekananda ashramam in brickfields..
its a shop lot towards the back of restaurant B sentral.
Pls if u go after seeing him, pls pls tell me wat he said is true or nt.. coz wat is happenin to me is soo soo true. can e mail me at ashika2804@yahoo.com
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Gulab reply on February 2nd, 2010:
@ashika,
Thanks ashika, will let u know once i see him
Gulab reply on February 2nd, 2010:
@ashika,
how much do we need to pay?
If this true………..i am keen to know my previous birth
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Hi vanakan.
I want to know abt my current married life?
Its full fill wt painfull. I unhappy wt my spouse.
Pls help me. I hope some one ‘ll safe my life
thanks
unlucky women
shamala
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Hi.. im from singapore… where is Mr ramesh from?? i would like to meet him too
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what is my olai chudi
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I just came across of your article. Well just wondering, if you have to go in person to see him to get the readings? Because I live in Melbourne and its hard for me to go over.
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poobalan reply on April 5th, 2010:
shrish,
i guess so u hv to personally.
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is alliance college of medical science recongnised. tq
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poobalan reply on April 5th, 2010:
thana,
you have to check with the uni, MQA, and alliance itself. if i’m not mistaken alliance had some problem last year with ministry.
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