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SUGANTHI SUPARMANIAM

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Vatta Ezhuthu can tell one's past, present and future.
Vatta Ezhuthu can tell one’s past, present and future.

It is an ancient system of prediction, written on palmyra leaves. Previously known only to a select group of people, the naadi astrology of India is growing in popularity. It has even been featured in documentaries, including on Discovery Channel. SUGANTHI SUPARMANIAM turns over the leaves

T. Ramesh (left) reading a script for Shanmugam. On Shanmugam's right is his daughter Praba.
T. Ramesh (left) reading a script for Shanmugam. On Shanmugam’s right is his daughter Praba.

Sivapalan Govindasamy says the readings are accurate but cautions against wrong interpretations by astrologers
Sivapalan Govindasamy says the readings are accurate but cautions against wrong interpretations by astrologers

KUALA LUMPUR: A. Shanmugam sat transfixed. The naadi astrologer had just read out his name and those of his parents and siblings.

"I was astonished. Reading the naadi olai (dried palmyra leaves), he could even tell that my mother had two names," said the technician.

Recalling the first time he had gone to see a naadi astrologer in 2002, Shanmugam said the astrologer took his thumbprint and checked it against several bundles of olai.

"I was told to say only yes or no as he read from the olai. He asked if my name started with ‘Pa’ or ‘Re’ or ‘Mu’. When he said ‘Sha’, I said yes. He asked if my name was Shanmugam.
"He then asked if my parents were named so and so and if I had this number of siblings and if I worked as a technician.

"However, when he came to the name of my wife, he said it was Manogari. My wife’s name is Maheshwari. He then said this was not my olai and asked me to come again in two weeks.

"This time, all the information about me fell into place. But I am amazed that such information about me could be contained in the olai said to have been written by sages ages ago.

"I am also amazed that there could be another man with my name and whose parents and siblings have similar names but who has a wife called Manogari.

"Since then I have seen the naadi astrologer 17 times. I find there is truth in what is said in the olai, at least for me," he added.

Shanmugam is just one of the many people who are consulting naadi astrologers to find out their past, present and future.

After being told by a Chinese friend about the naadi astrologers, Chiew Chee Hoong, 50, from Subang Jaya went to find out.

"My friend told me the readings were accurate. I went to the astrologer, gave him my thumb- print and within minutes he found a script and read out my name," he said.

He added that he was happy with the reading and described it as accurate.

He said he would be performing a special prayer as instructed in the olai.

Businessman Tan Chee Meng, 45, from Rawang said he felt something was missing in his life and decided to consult a naadi astrologer.

"I was shocked with what the astrologer told me. The accuracy of it was scary, he even came up with my ex-wife’s name," he said, adding that the results were immediate as after performing a prayer suggested by the astrologer, business picked up.

The naadi astrologer can tell why someone is leading a happy life or a miserable life. Or what life holds for the future.

Also, he can offer remedial advice.

This ancient Indian art of prediction is said to have been written by sages, called siddhars, thousands of years ago. The predictions were written on olai in Vattu Ezhuthu, a Tamil script, using a sharp, nail-like instrument called ezhuthani.

It can only be deciphered by expert naadi astrologers.

Universiti Malaya lecturer G. Sivapalan, who teaches siddhar philosophy and Indian astrology, said he was a non-believer.

He said he changed his opinion when his sick sister became well after consulting a naadi astrologer in India, who, through the naadi, directed him to meet a doctor in a hospital.

"I had taken my sister to many specialists here and I figured I had nothing to lose so we looked for the doctor.

"We asked around for a doctor with the initials given by the astrologer and found him. True enough, after consulting him, my sister became well," said Sivapalan.

He believes naadi readings are accurate but cautioned against wrong interpretations by the astrologers who read them. Some astrologers, he said, had money on their mind and these people often made mistakes.

Sivapalan added that mistakes could also creep in when astrologers made copies of the olai as each leaf only lasts about 200 years.

He said naadi astrology made its debut in Malaysia in the 1980s and many of these astrologers from India had been coming here ever since.

He said he had written down interpretations made by naadi astrologers for more than 800 people here.

Naadi astrologer R. Sentil Kumar said only certain people were fated to know their past, present and future through the naadi system. He said the naadi also provided ways to reduce the impact of bad karma or overcome obstacles.

"Incurable diseases are cured if they follow the instructions in the naadi. However, the influence of past karma affects a person so badly that sometimes it is written in the olai itself that that person should not be helped with remedial measures," he said, adding that such people had committed atrocities in their previous births.

Sentil said his clients included Malaysians, Singaporeans, Germans and Japanese who came to India to read their olai.

Another astrologer, T. Ramesh, who has been reading olai for more than 16 years, agreed with Sivapalan about misinterpretations of the naadi and added that true readers of the naadi were born, not made.

"Sometimes, people come here with questions and the answers will appear in their naadi," he said.

Ramesh said naadi astrology was different from ordinary astrology as only through naadi could a person know his past karma (actions done in previous lives). He said with this knowledge, a person could better understand his circumstances today.

He has read the olai for more than 20,000 Malaysians.

Brief history

THE naadi inscriptions are said to have been written in India thousands of years ago by sages on olai or dried palmyra leaves, using their yogic intuitive powers.
Over the centuries, the olai were passed on from father to son or master to disciple.
In recent times, many of these bundles of olai were collected and stored in the Saraswati Mahal Library in Tanjore, south India.
When the British came, they are said to have sold off some of these olai to locals, mostly astrologers.
The olai were handed down over the generations.
Young people were given training in how to read the naadi.
It soon became a means of livelihood for many.
The olai are preserved by rubbing them with peacock oil on auspicious occasions.
The main centre of naadi astrology is in and around Vaitheeswarankoil, near Chidambaram, in Tamil Nadu.

How it is read

THE thumbprint of the seeker is taken and is used to identify the seeker’s olai from the numerous manuscripts in the astrologer’s possession.
If the person is lucky, his olai will be with that particular astrologer. If not, he will have to look for it from other astrologers.
Sometimes the olai containing his information might have been lost or destroyed and he will not be able to have his olai read.
Once the astrologer locates the particular bundle, he begins to read from each olai and asks the person a series of questions about his life, to identify the correct olai.
This process can take a few minutes or several hours.
Once the correct olai is located, the astrologer reads from it, describing the person’s life in detail.

The astrologer will also suggest remedial measures for a person to reduce the influence of past karma and enhance the benefit of future activities.

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83 comments

  1. Netto says:

    Can I have the address or the phone number of Mr T.Ramesh (the nadi reader). You can call me on my handphone 01x-xxx xxxx. Thank you.

    MP: Sorry, I dont have any details. You may have to call NST and talk to the reporter involved.

  2. Maya says:

    Hi!

    Did anyone manage to get the contact no for Mr T.Ramesh? I have been trying to get his contact for some time now, but until todate to no success….

    Sorry for any inconvenience caused

  3. poobalan says:

    You can try emailing the NST’s news team at news@nstp.com.my

    OR refer to their contact’s page here and ask for Ms Suganthi Supramaniam, the reporter who wrote the article.

  4. Maya says:

    MP: hope you can share with us the info, or email me so that in future I can pass it to others as well.

    Hi!

    I manage to get the information that I wanted.

    Just wanted to ‘Thank’ You.

    Take Care

    Maya

  5. wilson says:

    MP: pls READ the earlier comments.

    How can get the contact ?

    pls email me at coollguy100@gmail.com

  6. wilson says:

    I got contact from mr ramesh and went there to get a reading. they register my thumb print and ask my dob and time. Ask a question to find out my leaf. He just give back the answer from the question he me. he is just a crook like any other nadi reader. for person who wanted to visit him beware. Now I know that the true nadi reader will not ask our date of birth and time. we only need to register the thumb print only.

    • john says:

      This is the first time i heard about this, i recently heard from a friend of mine, i couldn’t believe it until everyone on this website are telling the same thing. I damn curious about this odi chulai thing, where exactly can i see this or MR T Ramesh, anybody pls give the details or contact at this e-mail jon_77_88@yahoo.com. is it true??

  7. murugaiah says:

    can i get the address or phone number T.Ramesh(the naadi reader).

    • Ashika says:

      i have his number but are v talkin bout the same astrologer??? at brickfileds??

      • Suresh says:

        I read your comment on NST of the astrologer at Brickfields.Even though your comments is dated sometime ago in Jan 2009,you could assist me to confirm if his name is Kalaimamani and is now in Malaysia.I had meant to travel to Kl but I had lost my handphone and his contact details.
        Only clue I have is,he is from Tiruchi and visits KL and Singapore regularly but on his present trip to Kl,he was not able to get a visa to Singapore.
        You could share his number with me to book an appointment.
        Thank You
        Suresh

      • Ganeshan says:

        Hi Crystal
        Can you let me know of T. Ramesh e-mail id and where brickfields is?
        My Email id: saiganesh@myt.mu

  8. saresvathy a/p silvaraj says:

    vanakam,

    i want to look olai chudi and want to know my history
    want to know, how is my marrige life and my future

    • sangeetha says:

      Hi Saresvathy, there is a genuine nadi reader. If you are not married you can see Chapter seven and it is mandate that you have to see Chapter 1, 13 and 14 and perform poojas whatever given in Olai Chuvadi. You can mail me at sangeetha_74@yahoo.com or call me at 9841735461

  9. Ashika says:

    Hello ppl.
    jus came across this page.. jus to let u all know tat i have met this astrologer name T.Ramesh and all he said was so true.. seriously i felt as if y didnt i cm ther earlier… u guys wanna meet him to??

  10. florance says:

    I require the T Ramesh contact, Can you please call me or email to me;

    rmd_flo@hotmail.com. Thanks

  11. nivashi says:

    can i have mr.t.ramesh’s ctc number ??.pls….i need to consult him URGENTLY..

  12. Das says:

    Can anyone mail T Ramesh contact number to me

    sarandsx@gmail.com.

    Thanks.

  13. B.Yoges says:

    I wan to see olai chudi, pls email me T.Ramesh h/p no…urgent

    • B.Yoges says:

      Im not married yet, facing a prob to settle in marriage life…need advise through olai chudi…tq

  14. neha says:

    I have seen before but I want a double confirmation….so thought of seing a different one. Can I have the nadi reader’s number pls. Please mail it reema_55@hotmail.com. I’m from Klang Valley.

  15. MC says:

    Interested in getting a reading but afraid of being conned, somebody pls mail me dofusm@gmail.com the contact no. of reader if they have the information. Thank you.

  16. amir hossain says:

    I don’t know what is my birthday?
    I just know that my born place is monday. Can you please advice.
    Thank you.

  17. Prem says:

    could i please have the master’s contact details..

  18. Nemrod says:

    Hi could any1 mail me his contact number at nemrod8281@hotmail.com

  19. S. Paramasevam says:

    ”GOD BLESS EVERY ONE IN THIS WORLD”

    Hello,
    My dear Brothers and Sisters, i appreciate that if any one of you guys can give me the contact no of Astrologer Mr T Ramesh.
    Thank you very much.
    below are my e-mail address : spsevam@yahoo.com or robert@dragonflydesign.com.my.

  20. teeran says:

    Dear friends
    I will be so thankful if anyone of people would give me the contact number for the olai chudi astrologer Mr T ramesh. Please do let me know d details at : teeran_vtech@yahoo.com
    Thank you for your kind information

  21. Brina says:

    I just came back from meeting mr ramesh.. his number is 016-3570527 or 016-9665039… And trust me, the olai reading is true..

  22. NOOR SHAKILAHBEE says:

    I MARRIED 3 YEARS READY BUT I NO HAVE BABY.ANY ADVISE FROM OLAI CHUDI

  23. ASHIKA says:

    I HAVE SEEN MR T.RAMESH AND SO FAR HE SAID ALL IS TRUE..

  24. malar says:

    If this true………..i am keen to know my previous birth

  25. shamala says:

    Hi vanakan.
    I want to know abt my current married life?
    Its full fill wt painfull. I unhappy wt my spouse.
    Pls help me. I hope some one ‘ll safe my life

    thanks
    unlucky women
    shamala

  26. Jeevan says:

    Hi.. im from singapore… where is Mr ramesh from?? i would like to meet him too

  27. Thina says:

    what is my olai chudi

  28. Shrish says:

    I just came across of your article. Well just wondering, if you have to go in person to see him to get the readings? Because I live in Melbourne and its hard for me to go over.

  29. thana says:

    is alliance college of medical science recongnised. tq

    • poobalan says:

      thana,

      you have to check with the uni, MQA, and alliance itself. if i’m not mistaken alliance had some problem last year with ministry.

  30. jc says:

    I wan to see olai chudi, pls email me T.Ramesh h/p no…urgent

  31. tm thanesh says:

    i have so many problems my bate of brith si 20/11/1980

  32. sivakumar says:

    i saw olaichuvadi at brickfield 14.12.2009 but now nobody there maybe at s,pore but for your info if remedies please go and do it your self bcoz there do remedies for me by them due to i was jobless at india but nothing change still jobless and my finance become worst-now i only belief in guru means siddhars and god

    1.safe your self by your self-swami vivekananda.
    2.if 100 people buy lotter no not all will win same goes to olaichuvadi
    3.but if u got genuine olaichuvadi readers then ok

  33. Amy says:

    Dear readers,

    He is big liar , don’t believe him. I met him for my personal reading on march 2010 and after read he force me to read for shanthi gandam , after he read he say I must do lot of pariharam if don’t I wont get married and wont get good life , since it very sensitive issue I made to do all the parigaram he told me ,including he request me to give thanam thing’s for parigaram( pattu saree, 3gm gold thali, bangles , RM 423 and extra . He say after I done this will get married and he say will read for me the 7th gandam of olai chuvadi. After I completed my trip to india and the money and pariharam that he ask me to give him , I contact him to read my 7th gandam . whenever I call him , he ask me sms the “date” that frist I meet him for reading and he will call back almost 5 month. I always call him for appointment and he start to ignore my calls and or will put the call on hold. When I ask abt what he done the parigaram thing .. he refuse to give any answer . and whatever he read to me not happen at all. This India guy simple making money from us with his limited knowledge .
    Dear friend be aware from this guy !! I want to make complaint about this guy Government organization soon.

  34. rema menon says:

    hi how true is T.Ramesh…..i want to see him

  35. janice says:

    The price for the session is expensive as compared to other readers in town. He charges RM$ 200 for a general and one specific reading. Translation services are provided by a person who does not speak basic English. It would be advisable not to use the translation services.
    As for the actual reading, it is very generic. T Ramesh is astute in not providing any details as if you want to know more you will have to pay and for each chapter it is RM$70, not exactly cheap. Friends who have seen other readers were able to get a generic reading plus past birth experiences in detail at one sitting at a very much cheaper price. Lots of questions are asked during the initial search whereby one would feel obligated to inadvertently provide the answers. The answers are then pieced together during the general reading. That is the feeling I got while listening to the reading.
    As for the future, the feeling was, it was reported as such with the intention of motivating the person to go for a further reading of the chapters and to resolve the issues..

    • Crystal Fun says:

      Janice,

      Hi, I’ve had my nadi leaf read by Guru T. Ramesh on 23/05/2011. What he said about me is soo sooo true. He said that I will receive a blessing (a hug) from a female master but don’t know when and where. True enough, the hugging amma came here (Malaysia) on 09/04/2012 and out of the blue, my friend asked me to accompany her to Putrajaya for the hugging session and I was hugged. Another evidence of accuracy was he said that I have had my chakras opened and I have alot of cosmic energies and I can heal people using my hands.

  36. Nani says:

    I wan to see olai chudi, pls email me h/p no…

    how much do we need to pay?

  37. thanu says:

    i badly needed t ramesh’s contact dtls…if anyone cud provid pls

  38. Krishnan says:

    Is Mr Ramesh still seing people in Brickfields? Do you guys think he is genuine and able to predict the future with reasonable accuracy?

    • Crystal Fun says:

      Krishnan, to the best of my knowledge, he is still reading nadi leaves for people in Brickfield. I think he is genuine. He does not predict the future, he just read your past, present and future from the nadi leaves. It’s the matter of how he transcript.

  39. Krishnan says:

    Thanks for the reply Crystal. I am assuming whatever he told about your future must be happening:) I was just curious because I read posts of people saying that Mr Ramesh doesn’t have enough knowledge about nadi. But I think I will give him a try:) He does transcript well right?

  40. Mohan says:

    Dear friends,
    Where in brickfields i can find Mr.Ramesh.Hope to get some info. Thank you in advance.Plz email me at manimohan_81@yahoo.com

    • Sankarita says:

      hi vanakam..where i can find Mr.Ramesh at Brickfield?i need to know d place at brickfield

      • trix says:

        ermmm how did the olais get to malaysia..? i thot it’s in india…rm200 costly for me. maybe someone who had tried olai can explain the difference to astrology?

  41. Doctor says:

    Hii i saw t.ramesh a week ago..his prediction bout my past was true but i am not sure about my present..anyone havecany idea about how true is his future predictions

  42. Selvi says:

    Very good naadi reading by Naadi Jothidar, Balamurugan at Petaling Jaya, he can be contacted at 016 3612017

  43. shamila says:

    hie sir, i would like to know the past about my future. wan see the olai cudi at breakfield.(mr.ramesh). Cn i get the address??

    • Tarini says:

      i try to call Mr.Ramesh on 016-3570527 but coudn’t reach…… Anybody can provide his contact no plz… tq