Archive for January, 2008

MIC wants temples to stop suspicious special prayers

January 5th, 2008
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In other words, if the devotee want to do prayer for HINDRAF ISA detainees, MIC wants the temple to block them? Hmmm…how about wanting to have prayer for children education, winning lottery, doing well in business, etc? Also considered personal reasons right?
 
 
Temple committees responsible for activities conducted on temple grounds
 
 

Temple committees must be responsible for activities conducted in temple premises, said MIC secretary-general and parliamentary secretary to Housing and Local Government Datuk Dr. S. Subramaniam in a press statement, reported Tamil Nesan

He said temple committees and devotees must responsibly safeguard their rights, and added that temples had the freedom to conduct prayers and religious classes, and also celebrate festivals, in their compounds. 

He said when individuals or organisations wanted to conduct special prayers, it was the duty of the committee to ensure these were for religious purposes and not anything else. 

If organisers wanted to have speeches, then they should seek approval from the committee, which had the right to immediately stop any politically motivated speeches.

selangor govt ask temples to setup committee

January 5th, 2008
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6 months to form a committee? Surely the temple people can do better than govt style! Two weeks at the most to form a committee enough la.
 
Hindu Sangam's response?
 

Form board on temple construction

RAWANG: The Selangor government has called on Hindu temples to set up a committee to coordinate guidelines for the construction of temples in the state. 

Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Dr Mohamad Khir Toyo said the committee was crucial in ensuring that temples were constructed in accordance with state regulations.  

“We don't want temples being built without approval. Suggestions from this will be discussed at the executive council level before approval (for building new temples) is given,” he said after attending a meeting with heads of Hindu temple committees here yesterday. 

Dr Mohamad Khir added that he hoped the committee could be formed within six months. – Bernama  

media statement by waytha on AP interview

January 5th, 2008
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Waytha Moorthy's Press Statement (not published by local dailies in Malaysia, but widely distributed in the biggest newspaper in the world – the Internet email system)
  
(Email details deleted.)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          From: waytha moorthy <waytha@...> To:Subject: HINDRAF STRUGGLE TO CONTINUE- PRESS STATEMENT 3.1.08 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 03:15:26 +0800 
MEDIA STATEMENT BY HINDRAF
 
 
RE: HINDRAF’S PEACEFUL STRUGGLE FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY INDIANS WILL CONTINUE TO THE END
HINDRAF WILL NOT GIVE UP EVEN IF WE ARE FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE.
MY STATEMENT TO AP TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT
 
On the 30th December 2007 I was interviewed by a journalist from the AP who had spent about 1 ½ hours interviewing me. I am equally disappointed that a small portion of the interview had been blown out of proportion to mean I am giving up the struggle of Hindraf or that the struggle is likely to die soon.
 
I wish to clarify the following:
a) I will continue to lead HINDRAF even if I’m on the move throughout the world.
b) HINDRAF’s struggle will not die “soon”  as I have many plans lined up and will reveal to the Malaysian Indians in stages and with the support of  PEOPLE POWER which we are witnessing now we will together continue to advocate and assert the rights of the Minority Indian community.
c) I will do all possible within my means to lobby support from the British Government Parliamentarians and Human Rights Organizations and these include our demand that the 5 Leaders of Hindraf be released unconditionally and the Minority Indian Rights which has been neglected over the last 50 years be protected. Thereafter I plan to continue the lobby to Europe, United Nations in Geneva, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
 
d) HINDRAF would also be organizing various peaceful protests throughout the country to highlight the plight of the 70% poor underclass Malaysian Indian society and for the release of the 5 Leaders of which I would announce the first plan on Monday 7th January 2008.
 
e)      In the interview I was questioned what if after years (5-10years) of campaigning and lobbying the Government still doesn’t budge?
My answer was even if we are fighting a losing battle we will continue with the battle because not all battles are meant to be won. Great warriors do not worry about dying in the battlefield. If we are meant to loose we will loose so that someone else who take up the cause after us will win the war. If we loose after years of campaigning so be it we will call it a day. No one organization (including HINDRAF) can ever claim we are here forever and will continue forever. Nothing is permanent in this world and it also applies to HINDRAF.
 
PEOPLE POWER can continue with the struggle but the ultimate power lies in the Government. In Malaysia Indians are minority and the reality is we can’t form a Government to change the situation. So the responsibility lies in this Government to make the necessary changes in the interest of the minority Indian community.
 
 
f)        In the said interview I repeated my statement which was given to the AFP about 2 years ago when I commented on the issue of temple demolition. I had then said that (on the issue of temple demolition) eventually we too would fail the community but I fear the outcome after that. “At the moment devotees are crying and begging but eventually they would not plead and cry any more”.
 
My fear which I had highlighted about 2 years ago came true when we all saw what happened at Padang Jawa Temple demolition. Devotees who were for the first time protecting the temple with their bare hands and yet the authorities had violently attacked them and though devotees were injured in the attempt they were arrested and charged with criminal offences.
I again wish to reiterate my fear. The Government has successfully locked up voices of peaceful struggle for democratic rights and dissent. People have no one they can trust to lead them as they are all locked up. All their hundreds of appeals, memorandums and letters to the Prime Minister written on their behalf by these leaders have gone to waste bins. What can you expect them to do next? These are poor people who are not educated to articulate their grievances in a refined manner. In these circumstances I honestly feel our “chapter” (HINDRAF’S peaceful struggle) has been forcibly closed by the Government and so they must expect a new chapter to be opened but we are not part of that chapter. If a new undesirable chapter is opened in the history of Malaysia then we hold the Government solely responsible for they have killed legitimate voices of dissent and peaceful democratic struggle by HINDRAF.
 
g)      I was also quoted to have said the following, “…..if they can give us real concessions we are willing to keep our mouth shut I don’t look at myself as a sacrifier”.
 
1 ½ years ago I was interviewed by members of the Police Special Branch who had wanted to know my intentions of leading HINDRAF and my activities. Everyone would know that at that time HINDRAF was practically dealing on issues of Religious conversions (Article 121 1(A)) and Temple demolitions. Yes I did tell the Special Branch then  that if the Government resolves at least the temple demolition issue and permanently gazettes all temples existing prior to independence I will “keep  my mouth shut” and leave the public scene.
 
h)      I will never regret for initiating HINDRAF and leading it to its current struggle. The Malaysian Indians have been cheated by the UMNO led Government over the last 50 years using “coalition” Indian political parties to pacify the Indian community whenever they complain their rights are trampled upon. The UMNO Government’s “divide and rule” policy seemed to have succeeded but not any longer. The Indian community can no longer be cheated
 
But my heart goes to the 5 HINDRAF leaders who have been made scapegoats by the Government. The irony is even our legal advisers namely Mr.R.Kengadharan and Mr. M. Manoharan who were purely acting for HINDRAF as legal advisers were not spared. They were both vigorously and couragesly defending us when various sedition and criminal charges were levelled against us. Their incarceration in particular are not acceptable for it goes against all tenets of basic Human Rights to detain lawyers who defend their clients. It proves the Government is vindictive and malicious and had intended to warn would be advocates of HINDRAF to “stay away” from representing us.
 
 
P.Waytha Moorthy
Hounslow
Middlesex
 
As i mentioned earlier, NST took the news from Deccan Chronicles which in turn refered to AP's interview, which came out in IHT. Confused?
 
Read what Waytha's immediate response was, and also the articles written by NST and Star at:
 
Article by MK is below.
 
'I'm not giving up Hindraf struggle'
Yoges Palaniappan | Jan 4, 08 12:57pm
Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) chairperson P Waythamoorthy, who is currently in United Kingdom, has claimed that he was misquoted in an interview conducted by the Associated Press (AP) on Dec 30.

In a statement released from Hounslow, London today, Waythamoorthy said his comments to AP was "taken out of context".

"I am disappointed that a small portion of the interview had been blown out of proportion to mean I am giving up the struggle of Hindraf or that struggle is likely to die soon," he said.

In the interview which was widely published both locally and in international media, Waythamoorthy was quoted as saying, among others, that Hindraf has to close the chapter and that it would not be part of the next chapter if there is any.

Clarifying today, Waythamoorthy said: "The government has successfully locked up voices of peaceful struggle for democratic rights and dissent.

"People have no one they can trust to lead them as they are all locked up. All their hundreds of appeals, memorandums and letters to the prime minister written on their behalf by these leaders have gone to waste bins. What can you expect them to do next?

"These are poor people who are not educated to articulate their grievances in a refined manner. In these circumstances I honestly feel our "chapter" (Hindraf's peaceful struggle) has been forcibly closed by the government and so they must expect a new chapter to be opened," he said.

However, he added, if a "new undesirable chapter" is opened in the history of Malaysia, the organisation would hold the government solely responsible for they have killed legitimate voices of dissent and peaceful democratic struggle.

The government's responsibility

He said that he was also asked in the AP interview on Hindraf's position if the government failed to make any changes even after five to 10 years of campaigning.

"My answer was even if we are fighting a losing battle, we will continue with the battle because not all battles are meant to be won.

"If we lose after years of campaigning so be it, we will call it a day. No one organisation (including Hindraf) can ever claim we are here forever and will continue forever. Nothing is permanent in this world and it also applies to Hindraf," he said.

He added that it was the responsibility of the government to make the necessary changes in the interest of the minority Indian community.

"People power can continue with the struggle but the ultimate power lies in the government. In Malaysia, Indians are minority and the reality is we can't form a government to change the situation," he added.

He also said that he was misquoted when he told the interviewer that he would keep his mouth shut if the government agrees to give them (Indians) two or three real concessions and that he did not look at him as a sacrificer.

He explained that was what he had told a police special branch officer who interviewed him one and a half years ago that he would "keep his mouth shut" and leave the public scene if the government resolved at least the temple demolition issue and permanently gazetted all temples existing prior to independence.

"Everyone would know that at that time Hindraf was practically dealing on issues of religious conversions and temple demolitions," he said in his statement today.

Struggle to continue

He reiterated that he will continue to lead Hindraf even if he was on the move throughout the world.

He stressed that Hindraf's struggle will not "die soon" as reported in the AP article.

"I have many plans lined up and will reveal to the Malaysian Indians in stages and with the support of people power which we are witnessing now we will together continue to advocate and assert the rights of the minority Indian community," he said.

"I will do all possible within my means to lobby support from the British government parliamentarians and human rights organisations and these include our demand that the five Hindraf leaders be released unconditionally."

"Thereafter I plan to continue the lobby to Europe, United Nations in Geneva, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand," he said.

In his statement, Waythamoorthy said that he "will never regret for initiating Hindraf and leading it to its current struggle".

"The Malaysian Indians have been cheated by the Umno-led government over the last 50 years using coalition Indian political parties to pacify the Indian community whenever they complain their rights are trampled upon.

"The government's divide-and-rule policy seemed to have succeeded but not any longer. The Indian community can no longer be cheated," he said.

Peaceful protests

He also said that he felt sad for the five Hindraf leaders who have been made scapegoats by the government.

The five – P Uthayakumar, M Manoharan, R Kenghadharan, V Ganabatirau and T Vasanthakumar – have been detained under the Internal Security Act last December for allegedly being a threat to the national security. They have been detained for two years at the Kamunting Detention Centre.

"The irony is even our legal advisers Kenghadharan and Manoharan who were purely acting for Hindraf as legal advisers were not spared. They were both vigorously and couragesly defending us when various sedition and criminal charges were levelled against us," said Waythamoorthy.

He also said that Hindraf would be organising various peaceful protests throughout the country to highlight the plight of the underclass Indian society and for the release of the five Hindraf leaders.

He said he would be announcing his next step of action next week.

AP interview excerpts

Some excerpts from Waythamoorthy's AP interview :

"We are fighting a losing battle, we know. We try our level best but if we don't succeed, we have to call it a day, isn't it?"

"We have to close the chapter. There may be a new chapter, but we may not be part of the next chapter… I know, eventually we will also fail."

"We want the minority Indians to be given their basic rights If they can give us two or three (real concessions), we are willing to keep our mouth shut."

"That's what I don't understand: why isn't the government conceding? We are not asking for super rights, we are asking for basic rights."

"What we can, we will still do. But if the whole struggle is going to die, what can we do?… As it stands now I don't think we can accelerate."

 
 

Catholic magazine to continue with lawsuit on Allah

January 5th, 2008
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I'm confused. What does the minister mean by:
 

Deputy Security Minister Mohamad Johari Baharum told AFP that the Herald should comply with the government order.

"We approved the permit. Now the weekly should comply with the government decision not to use the word Allah," he said.

Wonder why the permit did not mention such restrictions, but a Cabinet decision is needed, which was done BEFORE the permit being issued?  IEither issuance of permit and cabinet decision is not govt decision? I'm sooo confused.

Read earlier articles on this case here:
 
 
 
 
 

Herald: Lawsuit on 'Allah' to proceed

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/76701

Jan 4, 08 5:37pm

Catholic weekly Herald said it would press on with a lawsuit against the government in the wake of a cabinet ban on the use the word 'Allah' days after its printing permit was renewed.

Deputy Security Minister Mohamad Johari Baharum told AFP that the Herald should comply with the government order.

"We approved the permit. Now the weekly should comply with the government decision not to use the word Allah," he said.

Authorities on Sunday allowed the Herald to continue to print, after earlier threatening to revoke its licence in a row over its use of the word 'Allah'.

The publishers then assumed that they could use the word Allah, or God, which is used by church leaders when they deliver sermons in Malay or in the Malay language articles section of the 28-page newspaper.

Editor Father Lawrence Andrew had earlier said the paper would still press ahead with its lawsuit filed last month to challenge the state order banning it from using the word Allah.

"We will not withdraw the lawsuit," he said.

Andrew also said that the newspaper used the word Allah in its first issue for 2008 dated Jan 6.

Cabinet decision

Abdullah Mohamad Zain, minister in the Prime Minister's Department said the cabinet at its meetings on Oct 18 and Nov 1 last year decided that the word Allah could only be used by Muslims to avoid confusion.

Abdullah said non-Muslims should use the word God ('Tuhan' in Malay) instead, although the word Allah has been used in the Malay-language Bible for centuries.

"The use of the word Allah by other religions may arouse sensitivity and create confusion among Muslims," he was quoted as saying by the Star newspaper today.

Malaysian commentators have sounded alarm over the growing "Islamisation" of the country and the increasing polarisation of the three main ethnic communities, which mix much less than in the past.

In recent weeks there have been controversies over the construction of the world's tallest Taoist Goddess of the Sea statue on Borneo island and destruction of Hindu temples by local authorities.

The Herald, a tabloid-sized newspaper, is circulated among the country's 850,000 Catholics with articles written in English, Chinese, Tamil and Malay.

PM gets pillow and bolster as sarcastic gift!

January 5th, 2008
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This guys must be really brave! This must rank as one of the most spectacular new year for PM! Wonder if any entreprising rakyat will make a business out of the pillow and bolster?
 
 

Group hands Pak Lah special gift

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/76673

Andrew Ong | Jan 4, 08 4:26pm

A group of disgruntled young Malaysians today symbolically handed a ‘gift’ to Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to express their disappointment with his administration.

The gift was in form of a yellow pillow and a bolster – both decorated with the Malaysian flag and the Petronas Twin Towers.

Abdullah however was not on hand to receive the items, which the group left at the doorsteps of the premier’s office in Putrajaya this morning.

Spokesperson for the group Badrul Hisham Shaharin said he and his eight other friends had come to the conclusion that the government’s ineffectiveness was due Abdullah’s purported “sleepiness”.

He added that Abdullah had previously been allegedly caught nodding off at various official functions both locally and abroad.

“So we wanted to send a ‘memorandum’ about what the youth wants. This memorandum is in form of a pillow… He can use the pillow to continue sleeping or wake up and realise that his administration is not efficient,” Badrul told reporters.

Badrul said the group consisted of artists, poets, bloggers, writters and activists but denied that the ‘pillow act’ was politically motivated.

Badrul (right) informs security guard on the group's intentions.
The group displays posters mocking Abdullah over his alleged ‘sleepiness’.
A poster referring to a 2006 report by Turkish newspaper Hurriyet regarding a luxury yacht allegedly linked to Abdullah.
“We don’t expect him to reply our ‘memorandum’. Thus far, he has never replied any memorandum sent by civil society groups,” Badrul told reporters.
Journalists and the police were stunned when the ‘memorandum’ turned out to be a pillow and a bolster.
“He can come and pick it up later if he wants,” said Badrul.
The pillow and several posters were left at the main entrance to the Prime Minister’s Department.
The banner reads, “The last hope of the young Malaysians: Continue sleeping O’Prime Minister”.
Security detail took a while to decide how to deal with the items.
More security detail arrive to deal with the items.
The pillow is scanned for dangerous substances.
Eventually, a security personnel removes the items.