Posts Tagged ‘discrimination’

non-Muslim place of worship for housing project bigger than 40ha

April 5th, 2011
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Wonder why no masterplan. Should have one right? Then there won’t be inconsistent decision or flip-flops.  Or is it different rules for lesser citizens? Without proper legislation it will also be firefighting activity  – solving problems instead of avoiding creating problems in the first place.

 

A DEVELOPER must allocate places of worship for non-Muslims for housing projects involving more than 40ha under the Selangor government policy.

State Health, Plantation Workers, Poverty and Caring Government committee chairman Dr A. Xavier Jeyakumar said the developer had to abide by the rules after the project plan for a housing project was sent to the local council for approval.

He said there was no masterplan for the building of non-Muslim places of worship like Buddhist and Hindu temples, tokong, churches andgurdwara.

“However, from time to time, the state will monitor and resolve the situation on these places of worship,” said Dr Xavier.

He said there was also discussion on the status of the land at the places of worship.

“From 2008 to now, the state has allocated 90 non-Muslim places of worship covering 127.76ha — tokong (114.6ha), temples (7.67ha), churches (4.74ha) and gurdawara (0.75ha),” said Dr Xavier.

The state also approved a temporary building permit for a temple in Section 23, Shah Alam in October last year.

Dr Xavier was responsing to a question by Mat Shuhaimi Shafiei (PR-Sri Muda) at the Selangor state assembly on the status on the non-Muslim places of worship.

Meanwhile, the state government reiterated that the 30% sales quota for each housing development and 7% discount for houses for bumiputras will remain and not be abolished.

State Housing, Building Management and Squatters committee chairman Iskandar Abdul Samad said the quota and discount would ensure that people staying in Selangor would be able to afford houses in the state.

“Besides the 7% bumiputra discount on homes, a 10% bumiputra discount is also given on commercial and industrial plots.

“With the discounts, the bumiputra buyers can afford to own land and houses.

On a rumour that the state will abolish the 30% sales quota and the 7% discount, Iskandar said it was not true.

Iskandar was responding to a question by Datuk Marsum Paing (BN-Dengkil) on whether the state wanted to abolish the 30% quota and 7% bumiputra discount on houses.

source: http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2011/4/5/central/8381818&sec=central

land problem, house problem

March 23rd, 2011
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Two recent news about land and housing caught my attention:

The first story is about land sale. These folks been staying there for ages, and yet the land sold to third party. Of course its the land owner prerogative to sell to whoever they like, but I think should have at least asked the current occupants. In fact the folks made many application (but not mentioned whether to buy or to just get the land).

MALAYSIA Nanban reported that 21 families from Kampung Gunung Cheroh in Ipoh, Perak, have filed a report with the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) as the land they are staying on has been sold to a private developer.

The report was lodged by village committee chairman S. Mogan, who accused the state government and MIC leaders of abusing their power in selling the land to a private developer.

He said the families, who had been staying there for the past three generations, had submitted numerous applications to obtain the land title from the district land office.

“We found out that the land had been sold after receving a lawyer’s notice demanding vacant possession,’’ said Mogan.

He added that they were surprised the Government, which was aware of the villagers’ application, had ignored it.

source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/3/16/nation/8274408&sec=nation

Second case is about uncompleted housing project and crime by contractors.  PJS longhouse case been going on for many years, still no solution.

SOME 30 residents of longhouses in Petaling Jaya Selatan 1 held a demonstration to voice their dissatisfaction with the local authorities, reported Malaysia Nanban.

The group claimed that they had no choice but to protest because both the Selangor government and Petaling Jaya Selatan MP Hee Loy Sean had turned their backs on their plight.

The residents alleged that many were still paying their monthly instalments for low-cost flats which were promised to them in 2000 by a developer of a condominium project near their area although the flats were yet to be completed.

The group had also accused the developer’s contractor of intentionally clogging up the drains behind their homes with debris, causing sewage water to rise and flood the area when it rained, in an attempt to get rid of them.

source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/3/23/nation/8324523&sec=nation

 

Urban poor Indians should go back to estate says Palanivel

March 7th, 2011
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Most important news today is not the by-elections, but the comments made by MIC President Palanivel below (The Star has a similar story, without the last 4 paragraphs):

MIC president Datuk G. Palanivel has asked members of the Indian community, who are unable to make a living for themselves in towns and cities, to come back and work in the plantation sector, including in estates owned by government-linked companies.

Palanivel, who is deputy plantation industries and commodities minister, said the government had agreed to a minimum wage of about RM700 a month for the sector, compared to RM300 previously.

There were also other facilities available in estates, including free transportation for students in estate areas and free housing, he said, adding that the cost of living in estates was also low.

“The ties among estate communities are also close and the environment is secure because they are guarded round-the-clock,” he told reporters after visiting the party’s community service centre at Wisma MIC here.

He explained however that the call was meant for those who were unable to get used to urban life and were mired in hardships, particularly single mothers.

He said estates owned by GLCs such as Sime Darby were facing a shortage of workers.

Rather than taking foreign workers from Indonesia and Bangladesh, it would be better that the shortage be filled by Malaysians, he said.

Palanivel added that poverty was among problems faced by the community and that the MIC was striving to find a solution to it.

On whether the Indian community now recognised the MIC after rejecting the party in the 2008 general election, Palanivel said he was confident that the community would support the party in the coming election.

On the demonstrations staged by Hindraf in the national capital last month, Palanivel said the protest was not about fighting for the Indian community.

“I want to ask you, was the demonstration held to uphold the struggle for the Indian community, to highlight problems of poverty? The demonstration was against the use of the novel ‘Interlok’.

“They are not fighting for the Indian community,” he said. — Bernama

OK, i’ll skip the part about Hindraf, Interlok and fighting for the Indian community.

The highlighted parts above seems to indicate the positive things of relocating to estates.

Now, let’s look at the situation of estate workers who worked in estates owned by GLCs for last 20 to 50 years. Are their situation better off now? Why do we hear about “squatters”, “eviction”, “poverty” etc when talking about estate workers? Is having the above “other facilities” enough? Free housing for how long? Is it free housing or free accommodation? Kind of misleading right? Can these people dream of their own house, or will be evicted later? When we are talking about Wi-Fi in interiors areas of Pahang/Sarawak, MIC president is talking about free transport, 24/7 security, and ‘free housing”.  Is this proof that Indian community is so poor until basic needs are still yet to be fulfilled?

Next RM700, yes its basic pay, and if work hard, can earn up to RM1500. There’s a big IF because of the price of the commodity will fluctuate.  And really, is fair to compare RM700 that a foreign worker can earn to RM700 a local can earn? The foreign workers can scrimp and live on shoestring budget, but locals have many expenses – from food for family, insurance (a big if here) to Astro (yeah, its a necessity now – even setinggan [squatter] area have them),  medical bills, education etc. With prices increasing rapidly, I don’t think rural areas will be left out. Even RM1500 also won’t be enough for a family of 3 or 4.

Moving on, how’s the school conditions in estates? Obviously, if the enrollment increases due to “returning back”, schools will have more clout to demand better infrastructure. But remember, the schools still sit on private land. No guarantees that anything will change.  Can we see 1Malaysia clinic in the estates? How about the Community Broadband Centres in estates? Got or not?

Living in rural areas like estate, the children will lose a lot in terms of exposure. How likely are they to mix around with other Malaysians? Instead they may pick up foreign habits and languages.

I know of some Malay folks who move back to their villages due to hardship. The reasons above are valid – lower cost of living, less pressure, better community ties. The BIG difference is that these folks have their own ancestral land, not work for other people.  I would love to have heard the MIC President say that the poor Indian families should relocate to rural areas and government will assist by giving them some land. Now, that will be helpful in a big way. Of course, if you expect these single mothers/poor folks to easily learn how to tap rubber or harvest oil palm, then surely can have same faith that they are able to till their own plot of land.

I would have been proud if the MIC President said that agriculture is a good industry and MIC would help to create more entrepreneurs or farmers by some special scheme. Instead, its just encouragement to be blue-collar, semi-skilled labor. Still be poor, but in different environment. Worse still, be dependent on the estate for basic facilities.

I think the estate environment needs much more improvement, but sadly, its not possible in near future. Thus the call for some folks to go work in estate is inappropriate at this point of time. If wrongly done, we’ll be condemning them to another long vicious cycle of poverty and subservience.

It is better to help the folks to adjust to life in their current location rather than suggesting relocation.

I too wonder, what would the reaction be if Palanivel suggests that other poor urban Malaysians (read: Malays and Chinese) also relocate to estates? Apa macam, bolehkah? What is good for the goose, should be good for the gander too, no? Or is it  a case of “hey, we need cheap labor. Why not make use of the hardworking Indians? Bring them back to estates and we can avoid taking foreign workers and paying levy. They worked hard for last 50 years. Surely can employ them again for next 50.”.

Oh ya, how about banning toddy and samsu first?

I think Palanivel made a big blunder here. Not sure who cooked up this idea for him to announce.

 

 

Lottery Ban in Kelantan

March 4th, 2011
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I was not surprised to read this news, but amazed at the timing. Made at the cusp of two by-elections, this will surely push fence-sitters away from PAS. For some people, lottery may be just trying their luck, not really a hard-core gambling.  Some take number occassionally or after some “consultation”. The state government is saying that Chinese community leader has agreed that gambling is a dangerous habit. Now, its up to those community leader to verify or rebut the statement.

As I have often mentioned, just talking about religion or general good/bad stuff is not suitable. Need to provide statistics, facts and figures to justify any action. Was there a survey conducted on the impact of lottery tickets among the Chinese community? I think participative government is more suitable nowadays, not the autocratic, “i know better” kind of leaders.

 

The Kelantan government slapped a ban on the sale of Big Sweep lottery tickets, raided two bookshops for selling them and issued summonses to the owners of the premises – and Chinese community leaders in the state are incensed.

The Kelantan PAS had already banned all other four-digit gambling outlets in the state.

Kelantan Chinese Chamber of Commerce president J.P. Goh described the action of raiding the bookshops as infringing on the rights of non-Muslims in the state.

He added that the PAS-led government, which had ruled the state the past 20 years, should have taken action a long time ago if gambling was offensive.

“The punitive action was taken without any prior notice.

“It looked like a rush job on the part of the council.

“I have been told by the owners of the bookshop that the confiscated lottery tickets were kept in a drawer away from public view,” said Goh at a press conference yesterday.

He added that both the shop owners were upset with the action as there was no prior announcement declaring it an offence to sell lottery tickets.

MCA central committee member Datuk Ti Lian Ker said the lottery was governed by federal laws, and the right to buy and sell such lotteries shall not be deemed as gambling.

He added that the local council has no right to raid and seize such lottery tickets because it did not have jurisdiction over a federal matter.

Ti challenged the Pakatan government to introduce the same enforcement in Kedah, Selangor and Penang.

Ti also took offence to Wednes­day’s statement by state executive councillor Datuk Takiyuddin Hassan who announced that the state government had banned all forms of gambling, including selling lottery tickets.

Takiyuddin had claimed that the local Chinese community leaders had agreed that gambling was a dangerous habit which threatened the well-being of families.

“Takiyuddin’s explanation is erroneous and a fallacy.

“No community can take away the civil or legal rights of any community guaranteed by federal laws,” said Ti, who is also Kuantan MCA division chief.

 

 

 

Ragunathan’s plight and temple issues in Merlimau

February 28th, 2011
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We can trust some of our media to dig up interesting stories, especially when it involves elections. So far, it seems to be rosy for Merlimau folks. Everyday, I hear some Merlimau makkal interview recording on Minnal FM saying how the town has progressed. Merlimau has a polytechnic (I suppose the makkal there benefit by the economic activities generated by the polytechnic ecosystem or maybe their kids are studying there), no problem with basic amenities, and generally, its like heaven on earth. Oh ya, in terms of Indian community, there are 1567 folks are registered as voters and MIC has identified 1242 of them. MIC hopes do deliver at least 75% of the Indian votes. That’s the scenario which is obviously in favor of the ruling coalition.  The voter breakdown is as follows: 10,679 voters consisting of 64.1% Malay, 20.8% Chinese and 14.7% Indian. In GE2008, voter turnout was 7977 (76.2%) with BN winning by a majority of 2154 votes.

OK, back to problems. Similar as with Tenang, some of makkal folks live in estates and rural areas, thus there’s the standard problem of getting basic amenities for the last 30/40/50 years. Our first case is about the (now popular) Ragunathan, a dairy farmer. His problem: lack of water supply for about a short period of two decades, and also lack of access road. He seems to doing well with oil palm getting good prices. The land is their own but the location is sandwiched between private property and government reserve. Of course, within days of his problem being highlighted, the calvary arrives. Hopefully his problem will be solved. If not have to wait till next election. BTW, I learnt one thing: branding is important. Choose a good logo.

 

After more than two decades living without water, the by-election has finally brought welcome news for Merlimau voter C Ragunathan.

Soon after Malaysiakini reported his predicament last week, the dairy farmer received visits from politicians and representatives of government agencies suddenly keen to solve his problems.

“After the report, representatives of the state water agency came and inspected our premises and enquired about how we source for water.

 

“Even the health department came to ask if we put chlorine in the well we use for drinking water…But they didn’t promise to provide running water,” he said when met yesterday.

NONERagunathan (left) and his household of more than 10 live in Kampung Paya Yoki, 6km from Merlimau town smack in between a Sime Darby oil palm estate and government reserve land which is now a small forest.

Sime Darby had rejected the land as it was swampy and the government had then sold it to 20 families most of whom have now chosen to move out citing lack of amenities and access road.

Ragunathan’s family source water from a 9 meter deep pond and a well within the estate perimeter, the only access road goes through a gate locked up by Sime Darby daily from 7pm and 7am .

But about a week ago, Malacca MIC deputy chairperson S Mahadevan had told them that the government may build an access road which cuts through the government’s reserve land, bypassing the estate.

“He said that we should first clear the reserve land and we have. It cost us about RM4,000 as there was dense overgrowth…this will not be compensated. We’ve also shown him the plan of where the road can be, but it’s their job to do the land survey,” Ragunathan said.

New electricity poles, street lamps

Tenaga Nasional Berhad also dropped by several days after the report to build two more electrical poles and provide seven street lamps.

merlimauFive years ago Ragunathan had paid TNB for erecting a couple of electrical poles as the energy company said it would not be able to provide it otherwise as the power grid is about 2km away.

“It was done the proper way. I applied and paid them the fee for the electric poles. The total cost, including wiring work and generator, came up to about RM30,000.

This has been confirmed by Negri Sembilan and Malacca Electric Commission director Md Rasdi Abdullah, who sighted Ragunathan’s application to TNB in his investigation, fearing any wrongdoing on TNB Malacca’s part following the news reports.

NONE“The new poles and street lamps is really good news for us and we’re thankful to TNB. But we still have the road issue, which we hope that the relevant parties can help solve as soon as possible,” Ragunathan said.

The father of three added that the lack of an access road that does not cut through the estate also eats into his income.

“I also plant some oil palm, and when we want to bring our crops out the estate patrol officer would think that we are stealing their crop, so he insists that he escorts us out from our land to make sure the fruits are ours.

“But there are times when he is busy and we have to wait a few days and by then our fruits have reduced in weight. The price of oil palm fruits is about RM800 a tonne, and each kilogramme less is a loss for us,” he said.

Dacing means stability

All the same, Ragunathan remains a staunch MIC supporter, just as his late father was.

NONE“When I was younger there was a party using the symbol of a sampan. My father told me that when the sampan goes in the water it’s unstable.

“But the dacing (the weighscale, symbolising BN) is stable, showing that it is fair and does not prefer one race over the other, so this is the party we must support. I have supported BN ever since but I hope that BN will pay attention to our woes.

“I don’t know whether or not (the government) is thinking about our problems. We pay our asssesment fees too, and to pay the fee we must have revenue and this is not easy without amenities,” he said.

 

 

 

Now, if the first case was quite straightforward, the second is a tad more complicated AND sensitive. It involves religion. The politicians are treading carefully, but still I don’t think it will affect the vote bank, since the problem can be more dragged for few more years. Can have a couple of dozens of discussions, interspersed  by land surveys and field visits. If properly managed, this problem can be prolonged for 5 years or more.

Basically, its about a two-in-one temple’s (Hindu and Taoist) expansion plan which is being opposed. My comments are in red below, within the article.

 

Attracting both Hindus and Taoists, the Sri Mathurai Veeran Raja Karaimariamman Tuah Peh Kong temple in the Malay-majority Kampung Simpang Kerayong, Jasin, would have well been a 1Malaysia success story. 

NONEFounded about 40 years ago, the temple sits on private land on the border of the Merlimau and Rim constituencies. [private lamd? whose land is it? Did the landowner give permission for the place of worship? Got approval from local council? Is there proof of its existence for 40 years?]

A plan to put up a proper building to accommodate the large number of devotees who come to observe religious festivals has, however, been put on hold.

This is due to objections from the local Umno division and the village security and safety committee (JKKK), that claim to represent almost all of the Malay community. [Can this claim be justified? Any proof? JKKK reps are not voted, but appointed due to political connections. So how can they be representative of anything?]

NONE“We first met with the penghulu (village head) who said it is not his role and that we should meet with the YB (assemblyperson),” said temple official and priest K Ganesan (right).

“The YB (Rim assemblyperson Mohd Yazed Khamis) said he supports our plans, but we have to get the approval of the JKKK andpenghulu, so we’ve been going around in circles”. [Hmm…wild goose chase. Good strategy. I suppose now things are clear.” ]

A letter dated Dec 14, 2010, from Mohd Yazed, displayed on the temple wall, states that the assemblyperson has no objections to the expansion “granted that there are also no objections from JKKK Simpang Kerayong, Simpang Kerayong Umno and local residents”. [can a political party’s objection be used as an excuse?]

Ganesan claimed that five families object to the expansion as they are “worried that a bigger temple will disturb the peace”. [five families or majority residents object?]

NONE“They worry that the sound of bells and the smell of incense will reach their houses,” he said.  [Well, sounds logical, sound and smell does travel through air. Are they using loudspeakers? And how often is these bell sounds and incense smell? More than 5 times a day? At odd hours?]

Temple committee member N Visvanathan claimed that despite the JKKK and Umno’s claim, only about five families have objected to the expansion, and those families live about 1.6km away. [1.6km away? Wow..I wonder how bell sound and incense smell can reach even beyond few hundred meters.]

“I live just behind the temple and I don’t hear or smell anything. The lorries (from the surrounding oil palm plantation) are more of a disturbance,” he said. [That’s a good comparison. Lorry is more disturbing than temple sound and smell.]

Chief minister’s backing


According to Visvanathan, BN component parties MIC and MCA are on their side. Representatives of the parties have visited them many times, and have even given cash donations to the temple, which has proudly raised several BN flags and an MIC flag. [should be thankful for the cash donation, and don’t worry about solution yet. Will take time. Discuss few more years.]

NONEBut no one has managed to broker a deal with the Umno branch to allow the expansion which Fauzi Muhammad (left), who runs a sundry shop across the road from the temple, believes is supported by “85 percent” of the multi-ethnic residents there. 

“The bell that they worry about is not a constant. It is rung at specific times so it’s not a nuisance. This is a matter of religion, so they must follow their own rules too… even in Islam we have the azan, which may disturb some people, but we must be mature and respect each others’ customs,” he said. [So, the bell is rung according to prayer times – for Hindus, its usually in the morning, at noon, then in late evening. However, I’ve seen some Taoist temples praying into late night. Maybe this is problem – two different religion occupying same location, thus more activities therehmm..mature and respect each others’ customs. That usually is a one-way street in most cases, people like Fauzi are the exception. But this values do exist in Pendidikan Moral subject.]

NONEThis is an argument that is not getting through to those villagers who object to expansion. Even Malacca Chief Minister and state Umno head Mohd Ali Rustam has been unable to convince them, although the state government has approved the expansion in principle. [OK, so approval for extension exists “in principle”]

“I have met with the JKKK, some approve (the expansion), some don’t. I am in a difficult position. If I approve the temple, then Umno members people will say the chief minister supports Chinese and Indians and won’t vote for BN. But if I don’t, then DAP will attack me. [ahh..life of a politician and the decisions they must make..tough life. Tips: why not stop thinking like a politician and more like a sane human being? That may help]

“So I hope we can have more discussions and try to get to a solution,” Mohd Ali said at an event near the temple on Saturday. [the road well travelled – have lots of discussions. Hopefully can solve the problem by next election. Don’t get me wrong, discussion are good, but if its dragging for ages, then need to analyse if its being conducted properly by the right people.]


“Umno and JKKK were angry with me when I converted the land to temple land but I said the temple has been there for 40 years so what’s the problem? We have waited for 40 years, I am sure we can wait a little longer.” [Why the anger? Was the land eyed for some other use? Maybe can consider land swap now?]

NONETemple head Ng Hong Wah (right) said he welcomes the chief minister’s hands-on approach on the issue and is happy that Mohd Ali has visited the temple and is willing to host a dialogue between the parties involved. 

And although campaigning is in progress for the by-election, Ng and his committee members are unwilling to turn to the opposition to air their plight, as they do not want it to be politicised. 

Ng’s concern is just to get the plan off the ground, as the temple committee has spent more than RM100,000 on preparations, including purchasing the land, installing the piping and covering the swamp land. [opps, land has been purchased, so its their own land.]

‘Bell disturbs sleep’

According to Umno Simpang Kerayong division head Hasnol Abu Wahab, the state government and its agencies had, at a meeting with the division and the JKKK, agreed in principle to relocate the temple. [relocate? seems like chicken and duck talking? How can you decide when the party concerned is not around? Is this how things are supposed to be done? Make unilateral decisions?

“You know how these people are, they tie a red and yellow cloth somewhere and it becomes their deity. I don’t think the temple has been there for 40 years… we have located a piece of land less than 1km from the (current site and), which is near another temple and is more appropriate,” he said when contacted. [hmmm…shows how much this guy (and perhaps his cohorts) understand about other people’s religion. Silap haribulan, he can be arrested for sedition – belittling other people’s religion. AND this guy is division Head! He needs counseling from MCCBHST pronto! BTW, can he provide proof of the age of the temple?  Appropriate for who? ]

NONEState exco member R Perumal, who is heavily involved in the negotiations, however, denied that the state has any intention to relocate the temple. [no relocation? confirm chicken and duck talking. No wonder need lots of discussion!]

This will not sit well with the JKKK. Kamaruzzaman Salleh, a member, lamented that the exco did not even consult the villagers before approving the expansion plan. [So, its the Exco’s fault? What’s the local council doing?]

He said that just about all the Malay residents are against the temple because it is too close to their homes and only about 500m from the mosque. [About all the residents? need to conduct a survey to verify. Since earlier the distance was given as 1.6km and now this guy saying 500m, need to hire qualified land surveyor and engineers to verify the distance. Signs that we are bad in judging distance?]

“We are not objecting to the existence of the temple and we respect their right to pray, but the location is unsuitable,” he said. [Obviously its the location problem. The issue is how to verify the unsuitableness of the location.]

There is also an issue of access, as there is only one road leading to the houses behind the temple. The villagers have complained about congestion whenever there are festivals, as the temple is popular with devotees outside Jasin as well. [ahh..another problem added – access road. Of course not everyday there’s a festival. How’s the frequency? Once a week? Once a month? Once every 3 months? Is it bad as weekly Friday afternoon traffic jams? How about asking to build another road or widen the existing road?]

He said that residents, in a complaint letter to the JKKK, had said that the temple bell disturbs their children’s sleep. [must be a big bell with loudspeakers to boot.]

NONEThis, however, has left the temple officials baffled. They only use a hand bell and said they always wait for the azan to finish before ringing the bell. [Aiks! hand bell? At most I can hear my neighbor about 6 houses away praying using hand bell – that’s 50 metres only. Not sure what kind of bell can be heard 500 meters or 1.6km away.]

“When we pray, we ask for the safety of the whole kampung too,” said Ganesan. [Hmm… i think the kampung will be safe even if don’t ask for it.]

About 50 non-Malay families live in Simpang Kerayong, some of whom will vote in the Merlimau by-election on Sunday, in the Jasin Lalang and Chinchin polling districts. [hmm..not many votes here. Solution : have more discussions.]

PAS garnered about half of the votes in both polling districts in the 2008 general election.

 

Don’t get me wrong, but this kind of issues are fuel for people to protest. You may have just handed more ammo to HRP.

Now, looking at the second case above, what can the solution be (other than prolonging the decisions)? Get independent consultants to conduct study to verify distance, conduct survey among residents within a certain radius (don’t let outsiders interfere), study possibility of widening the road, study the decibel levels of the temple bell, measure distance travelled  by incense smell, survey how many kids are affected by sound/smell, study the prayer patterns of the Hindu and Tao devotees, study the frequency of festivals/major prayers, study possibility of relocation and the impact to residents, visitors, and devotees. See, not so difficult right? Heck, I should be a con-sultant! 🙂