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land allocated for temple rebuilding says samy

November 2nd, 2007
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i thought the demolition happened on tuesday morning! the ways it was done as if purposed want to destroy the deities and just make a mess. the walls were still there, the building structure was still there.  to me, looked like purposely want to provoke the anger of the people.

given two days to remove deities? what deities? haven't they been smashed up during the day?

Land allocated to rebuild temple

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KUALA LUMPUR: The Selangor government has allocated a 10,000 sq ft piece of land in Shah Alam for the rebuilding of the temple it ordered demolished in Kampung Karuppiah.

MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu yesterday said the state government will also assist in its construction.

He said the demolition of the temple in Kampung Karuppiah, Padang Jawa, which started on Tuesday night, had been put on hold under orders from the prime minister.

This followed a meeting between Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and Selangor Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Dr Mohamad Khir Toyo.

It was agreed that the temple would be given two days to remove statues of deities and other religious artifacts.

Meanwhile, the Bar Council is asking why four lawyers representing the temple congregation on the demolition issue had been arrested.

A statement said lawyers P. Uthayakumar, M. Manoharan, P. Waythamoorthy and Ganapati Rao were arrested in the course of carrying out their legal professional duties.

The lawyers had turned up at the Section 11, Shah Alam police station to represent their clients who were earlier arrested for hindering the demolition work and were reported to have been denied access to their clients.

Upon complaining to the police, they were arrested.

Bar Council vice president Ragunath Kesavan said: "The recently amended section 28A of the Criminal Procedure Code (CPC) allows a detained person the right to communicate with a legal practitioner of his choice upon arrest.

"We are concerned that these arrested persons, including the four lawyers, were denied this right, which is a flagrant breach of the CPC."

The lawyers have since been released on bail.

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PM says react with moderation over religious issues

November 1st, 2007
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this really takes the cake. coming from the very person who did not entertain top leader of indian community, pembela rakyat india di malaysia who went to meet him at shah alam.

Abdullah also pointed out non-Muslims also had their religious sensitivities. (yah..like smashing up deities).

“So it is important that we all take great care in what we say and ensure what we say is always right and moderate. We don’t have to be harsh in our words or go overboard even though we feel angry and hurt,” he said, adding that his message was also meant for the non-Muslims. 

“Even though many things are not right, what is important is that we discuss things among each other. Muslims must work to make others understand them (wow…what does that imply in the case of selangor MB and the MBSA?). Religious tolerance is when everyone understands what is happening and takes the correct action,” he said.

well…as vaigai puyal says.."ennai vechi komedi kimidi pannelele…"

thanks for the joke, pak lah.

React with moderation over religious issues, says PM

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KUALA LUMPUR: Muslims should react with care and moderation even though they are rightfully hurt and angered by insensitivities to their religion.  

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said religion was a sensitive matter to everyone and Malaysians should be thankful that they are able to honour religious sensitivities so as not to create a situation that benefited no one. 

He noted that there were cases such as the caricature of Prophet Muhammad which had rightfully angered Muslims around the world, and they reacted strongly with outrage. 

“Those of other religions did not understand the strong reaction by Muslims and asked why it was such a big deal. We do not regard it as small matter but as a serious one. 

“The Muslims’ reaction reflected their frustration over the episode not because they were being emotional but because they took it as an insult to Islam and reacted spontaneously,” he said when closing the National Umno Religious Bureau Chairmen Conference here yesterday, where he also launched the Umno religious bureau website and bulletin. 

Abdullah also pointed out non-Muslims also had their religious sensitivities. 

“So it is important that we all take great care in what we say and ensure what we say is always right and moderate. We don’t have to be harsh in our words or go overboard even though we feel angry and hurt,” he said, adding that his message was also meant for the non-Muslims. 

“Even though many things are not right, what is important is that we discuss things among each other. Muslims must work to make others understand them. Religious tolerance is when everyone understands what is happening and takes the correct action,” he said.

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Suhakam slams authorities over temple row

October 31st, 2007
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bila kecil baling batu kat anjing
bila besar baling batu kat orang.

inilah budaya sifat sopan santun dan lemah lembut. ataupun pekerja – pekerja itu pun merupakan imigren.

let me translate for benefit of international readers:

when small throw stones at dogs,
when big throw stones at people.

this is the culture that prides itself with being soft-spoken, humble, and pleasant. or are the workers immigrants?

what qualifications these enforcement officers have? SPM dropouts?

source: http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/74205

Temple row: Suhakam slams authorities
Andrew Ong
Oct 31, 07 5:02pm
The Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (Suhakam) has condemned the manner employed by the authorities to demolish a Hindu temple in Shah Alam yesterday.

) said the incident showed that the authorities did not have respect for religious and cultural sensitivities.

“The authorities may have state or legal right to carry out the demolition, but the manner in which it was conducted requires far greater consideration,” he told a press conference at the Suhakam headquarters in Kuala Lumpur today.

“Suhakam has been repeating this so many times. But the authorities seem to be deaf. They cannot display simple human decency in responding to a crisis.

“Why make it a crisis when it can be settled amicably?” he said, adding that the demolition was untimely since the Hindu festival of Deepavali was only a week away.

Yesterday, scores of Hindu devotees were injured when they resisted attempts by the Shah Alam City Council (MBSA) enforcement officials to demolish a temple in Rimba Jaya.

Some eye witnesses described the situation as a “near riot” as the two sides clashed. MBSA were backed by the riot police and other enforcement authorities.

The authorities claimed that the demolition was carried out based on a court order. Devotees, on the other hand, claimed that they were never notified of the demolition.

Grace period

Based on information received from eye witnesses and press reports, Denison said Suhakam’s preliminary findings is that the devotees had asked for a two-day grace period in order to carry out necessary preparations to relocate.

Denison said the way the temple and the sacred items within the structure were destroyed by the authorities would be taken as great offence by the Hindu community.

He said that rightfully, the authorities should have respected the rights of the Hindu devotees to carry out the necessary rituals to safely remove the items.

“These processes take time. What is (the enforcement authorities’) hurry? Can’t they wait two days, three days or one more week?

“If they can cool down emotions, that achieves far more than bulldozing the issue,” he added.

Another Suhakam commissioner N Siva Subramaniam condemned the use of violence by the authorities to subdue the devotees.

“Based on press reporters, the enforcement authorities pelted the devotees with stones. Their actions must be condemned. As enforcers, they should not subject the people to cruelty,” he said.

Public inquiry

Siva added that the authorities had displayed blatant abuse of power during the incident.

Numerous press reports today highlighted pictures of head and body injuries sustained by several devotees.

Both commissioners would try to convince Suhakam to hold a public inquiry on the matter. A decision on whether to hold a public inquiry would be made on Nov 12.

Siva added that the problem seemingly stems from the Selangor government’s policy as such occurrences are rare outside the state.

Denison said Suhakam had previously issued guidelines for the authorities on the demolition of places of worship and expressed regret that they had been ignored.

He stressed that the authorities needed to consult political parties and other stakeholders before taking action on places of worship because of the sensitivities involved.

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shah alam temple demolishment details

October 31st, 2007
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Thanks to Thanish for the following write-up which relates to the temple demolishment at shah alam.

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Subject: [www.umic.org.my] Temple Demolished in Padang Jawa Klang
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Hello all,Let me tell you all the exact issue. This temple was headed by demised former Exco of Selangor state. It is being said a court order released on 2005. The order was then was brought to authorities by the Exco and decided not to touch the temple until a land is given to temple. The developer has allocated a portion for the temple but the land is not ready yet. How and where to move without a land is shown and given? The housing area behind the temple is being cleared out and the houses are being relocated. We are aware that the houses being demolished but NOT the temple. To be safe, selangor state and exco authorities was met and with the developers consent it was decided and ensured the temple will not be touched. All of a sudden on early morning on 30th October 2007 the so called authorities (MBSA) came into the temple with hammers and axes with their shoes ON without a respect to the prayers going on at the temple. (went into the inside deities’ place (karuvarai)). They was forcefully stopped and notice was asked to be shown, court order to be shown . But they can’t produce any. Only being told that it was decided to demolish the temple late night on 29th Oct. They very reluctant to hear any of the temple committees words. Finally after a long long talk, they decided to give the time until 2pm to remove the deities. They immediately went to demolish the kindergarten which belongs to the temple ( Class was going on at that time, the childs were rushed out from kindergarten ). The kindergarten was demolished with all valuable belongings of the temple and kindergarten. At 2pm sharp the so called BATTALION of MBSA, RELA, FRU, POLICE ( the situation was like a war zone ). Our Indian crowds gathered in front of the battalion. Hindraf and their lawyers, independent lawyers, some MIC reps tried to talk to them. Nothing could stop them. MBSA informed NO ONE could stop this as this is direct order from selangor MB. At 4 pm, they moved into the temple. This where when the free for all started. Exchange of stone throwing between the public and the force (peaceful priests and public was inside the temple) ended up in tensed situation. The scene was like racial tension. At the end, the force overpowered with the tear gasses, water jets, batons and with guns. Datuk Seri came to the scene too late at abu 5 pm after part of the temple already demolished. He informed nothing was be able to be done. The situation became even tensed then. Datuk Seri was rushed off then. Now, this has become a National issue and its not known what is going to happen? This is our fate of Indians even though a lot of NGO’s and the public protesting against Indian community discrimination. The date 30th Oct 2007 has changed entirely the life’s of some of the Hindus in the area. Some innocent members of the public and a temple committee was arrested. If this is happening tO Padang Jawa Indians, its not very far away to other places as well. There’s no say for our leaders. No respect for our believes, our faith, our rights !!!!

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police bust drug lab in taman putra prima!

October 30th, 2007
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damn! this is my taman oh…..i thought the security guard was lying when he told me got many police cars at one of the houses…wonder which phase is this?

Cops bust drug lab

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SHAH ALAM: Selangor police have busted a mini-laboratory producing syabu and ephedrine in Taman Putra Prima, Puchong.  

Deputy state police chief Senior Asst Comm I Mohmad Salleh said a police team investigating a car theft case stumbled upon the laboratory last Friday after finding a stolen Proton Perdana and a Proton Wira parked in the compound of the double storey terrace house. 

The Proton Perdana had been reported missing in Sungei Way, Petaling Jaya while the Wira had been reported missing in Klang. 

"The house was installed with CCTV cameras but the 29-year-old suspect was too busy processing drugs when the police team raided the house at about 6pm and did not notice them moving in," he told a press conference Tuesday. 

He said police seized 600g of syabu that was being dried before being compressed into pills, 18kg of ephedrine placed in 18 aluminium coated plastic bags and a packet containing 30g of syabu. 

The drugs are estimated to be worth about RM300,000. 

Also confiscated were 40 bottles of alcohol, two bottles and three jars of chloroform, a sack of coal, a bottle of hydrochloric acid, four gas containers, two stoves, four pots and other items used to process syabu. 

He said the suspect had rented the house about two-and-a-half months ago and was believed to have started the laboratory about two months ago. 

He said the suspect had three previous convictions for robbery, drugs and illegal betting related cases.

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