Posts Tagged ‘Religion’

Malaysia is neither a secular nor theocratic state says PM

August 5th, 2007
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So, the PM has clarified what majority of Malaysians are already clear about. Only those few "goblok" politicians who have nothing better to do other than creating controversies are still unclear. I think that MCA in their rebuttal mentioned that ours is not a Islamic country, but did not say that we are secular per se. Of course now all the politicians will hail the briliance of our PM and those who erred will say quote "misunderstood" or "misquoted".
 
Lets wait for the next round of controversy to happen again.
 

By DERRICK VINESH

BUKIT MERTAJAM: Malaysia is not a secular state and neither is it a theocratic state, said Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. 

Reiterating that Malaysia is a multiracial nation that observes freedom of religious practice, the Prime Minister said: 

Contributions remembered: Abdullah Ahmad Badawi presenting the Anugerah Wira Merdeka (Merdeka Hero Award) to Abdul Rahman Lazim, 73, during a function at the Tuanku Bainun Teachers Training College in Mengkuang, Bukit Mertajam, yesterday. With them are (from left) Chief Minister Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon and Penanti Assemblyman Datuk Abdul Jalil Abdul Majid.

“We are a government that is based on parliamentary democracy; a government that is responsible to the parliament and the people. 

“It is a government that is made up of Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and Christians, who work together and discuss together development policies for the nation.” 

He said the Government gave due attention to all races, who enjoy religious freedom as provided for in the Constitution. 

“Be it a surau, masjid, temple or church, when there is a need for it, the Government gives the necessary aid,” he told a mass gathering at the Tuanku Bainun Teachers Training College in Mengkuang here yesterday.  

“Secular nations do not practise such freedom. To them, religious practice can only be done at home,” he said, responding to critics who claimed that the Government advocates secularism. 

Abdullah said the country’s multiethnic and multireligious compositions had never been a problem to Malaysians.  

“This diversity has enabled us to live in peace and harmony. Let us continue with our own unique Malaysian way,” he said. 

The Prime Minister said the country had progressed with its unique formula for 50 years and was now successful. 

“I do not see why such a government cannot progress in the years to come,” he said.  

In a tribute to the country’s founding fathers, Abdullah said they had fought for the nation’s independence but their struggles were not yet over and must be continued through the present generation. 

The current struggle was to eradicate poverty and prejudiced feelings that could derail the nation’s unity, he added.

The NST:source

The prime minister called for a stop to the polemic of whether Malaysia was an Islamic or secular country. He said Malaysia was not a secular or theocratic country but one which was based on parliamentary democracy. He said the government never marginalised any minority group or religion and that religious diversity in the country had never been a problem.

"This diversity is not a liability but is actually what makes us strong.

"We have always given attention to every group and our leadership is based on the consensus of all races."

The prime minister added this was what made Malaysia a unique country. Abdullah said the bigger ethnic group had never suppressed the smaller groups and this had contributed to the country’s continued peace and prosperity.

"We should all be thankful that our efforts to develop the country have never been derailed since we achieved independence.

"The government has always been able to carry through all development projects thanks to the people’s continued support for the Barisan Nasional since the time the coalition was known as the Alliance."

Tun Hanif article – Bury those grouses

July 29th, 2007
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Bury those grouses

POINT OF VIEW WITH TUN HANNIF OMAR

When land becomes an increasingly rare commodity in major cities, it’s not just non-Muslims who have difficulty in getting permission for building their places of worship or for burial grounds.

WE went through 18 holes of golf last weekend – and right through I was almost overwhelmed by the deafening sound of silence. Not so long ago, it was the hottest topic in town but last weekend my three playing partners did not utter a single word about the Altantuya murder trial. Why? 

I asked some other friends soon after. Apparently, they are also not so glued to the ongoing trial any more because “we already have the postscript ready and are just waiting for the verdict so that we can append our postscript”.  

What have been more on my non-Malay friends’ mind were the questions of religious freedom and the New Economic Policy. At first, there were the couple of activist friends who would e-mail to me every shred of literature produced by anyone who showed the Muslims and the Malays as being unreasonable on these two issues. Then I started to get direct questions on these issues from friends and even relative strangers with whom I sat down. How do I answer these questions in a plausible way? This time I will stick only to the first issue. 

Article 11 of our Federal Constitution is often brought up and cases like Lina Joy’s are brought up to prove the lack of freedom to profess, practise and propagate one’s religion. My view is that we have as complete a freedom as is envisaged by Article 11 which, by the way, does not give absolute freedom in every sense. Clause 4 of Article 11, for instance, restricts the propagation of any religious belief among Muslims. Thus, adherents of other religions who evangelise, openly or secretly, among Muslims fall foul of this stricture. But what the punishment is for doing so I do not know, as my limited interest in this field in the past has not brought me to discover any Act of Parliament covering this. Perhaps someone knowledgeable will enlighten us in time. 

I am not aware of any lay authority or Muslim religious affairs department interfering with the way Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, etc, practise their religion unless such practices infringe any general law relating to public order, public health or public morality. This limitation under Clause 5, Article 11, equally applies to Muslims! 

So, what is the general grouse about? I discerned that it used to be – and still remains largely so – about the difficulty of getting land or planning permission for churches or temples to be built, and for cemeteries. If we are referring to government land here, I can vouchsafe that it is an increasingly rare commodity in certain cities and towns, and this is felt even by Muslims who want to build their own places of worship or acquire additional government land for burial.  

In Kampung Gajah, Perak, my family donated a piece of inherited land for building the Sultan Azlan Shah mosque. The Hutan Melintang mosque built decades ago on land donated by my grandfather is now able to expand after I donated a further 2 ½ acres land some years back. We must look to the able among our congregation to solve some of these problems.  

But from my knowledge of the feeling of the Muslims in general, they would rather that other places of worship are not built too close to mosques and surau. Ask them why and the answer would probably be that the bells, serunai, tok-tok or cymbals may disturb their concentration during prayers and the idols may jar their sensibilities. I am sure that followers of other religions generally feel the same way that there should be some distance between different religious places of worship as all want to worship in peace.  

Talking about idols reminds me of the building of that towering statue of Kwan Yin in Penang almost three decades ago. A huge outcry welled up from Penang Muslims, both Malay and non-Malay. A compromise was found that didn’t quite please either side but it helped to calm the situation. 

A more recent controversy was the stop-work order on a similar statue in Kudat that, in spite of having received planning permission, was alleged to be too close to a mosque. But two huge statues of the Buddha in Perak and in Kelantan have not elicited objections even from the serambi Mekah (Mecca veranda) state. Why? Perhaps because of the non-competing locations and, who knows, perhaps because a reclining statue, no matter how long, is not “challenging” compared to a towering idol. 

Talking about a towering challenge and noise disturbances, I remember that the London authorities capped the height of the Regent Park Mosque and the loudness of its azan calls before giving it planning permission. 

As for land for cemeteries, it is a problem for all, even Muslims. Gone are the days when Muslims can elect to be buried in any Muslim cemetery. In Kuala Lumpur, he gets buried where he lived if the local cemetery still has vacant plots or his family would have to beg for a place in a faraway cemetery, or take him back to his kampung cemetery. 

Thus the Ampang Road Cemetery is for those living in the Kampung Baru area; and Bukit Kiara is for those in the surrounding areas. Thank God that many non-Muslims find cremation acceptable, otherwise this would be an even bigger problem with each passing day. In Jakarta, they were contemplating burying Muslims on their feet, so to speak, so that they would occupy minimal land.  

Both my parents and three other close family members lie in the same grave, so my family doesn’t occupy much land in death and I have already instructed my grandson to bury me in my second daughter’s grave in the Ampang Road cemetery or to rebury her with me so that someone else can have her space. We have to be practical here or we’ll end up in hysterics. The Prophet Mohammad said the best grave is an unmarked one, indistinguishable from the area around it. 

Faced with their difficulty in getting land for churches, I find that the Christians have opted for practical solutions. They have turned many shophouses, no less than two in my area alone, into places of worship – a solution most Muslim communities in England resort to. 

As long as they can do this, I do not buy the allegation that they are oppressed in this respect. It would be quite different if they are prevented even from having this alternative. I remember when I was in Manila to accompany Tunku Abdul Rahman for the Maphilindo Summit, there was no Muslim burial ground and our Tunku asked President D. Macapagal to reconsider this policy. I remember Tunku telling us that the President said he would have to give serious thought to that as it was bound to be an unpopular suggestion in his staunchly Catholic city. 

But today I discerned that part of the grouse is about the inequality of official treatment between Islam and the other religions. I think it is unreasonable to “demand” equality of official treatment when the Constitution singles out only Islam as “the religion of the Federation”. The Constitution does not even say what the other religions are! This is part of our social contract. If we challenge this, we lay ourselves open to further challenges from all sides that will unravel our national fabric. 

To the Malays in the years of bargaining leading to Merdeka, few things were more important than to preserve the special place that Islam had had in this land from before British colonisation. Thus the question of religion occupies the third Article of the Constitution, immediately after the name and constituent of the federation (Article 1) and the admission of new territories and the inviolability of state boundaries (Article 2). 

In my humble opinion, in this situation a soft sell by the adherents of other religions may go further than a hard sell – or a “demand”. Unless the Constitution is in their favour, political reality, particularly the Umno/PAS rivalry, will make it difficult for the non-Muslims to successfully pressurise the Muslims leaders. 

 Previous articles of Tun Hanif’s Point of View are available at thestar.com.my/columnists 

Convert to know fate next month

July 21st, 2007
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well, looks like a clear cut case. converted due to marriage, not out of love of religion. Never followed Islam, instead practised Buddhism all the time. Now wants to repent. How complicated will the involved parties make this? Another 100 day detention (aka counselling) for Tan? Forcing her to eat beef may not work this time.
 

Siti Fatimah claimed she followed Buddhist teachings
Siti Fatimah claimed she followed Buddhist teachings

GEORGE TOWN: A Chinese woman, who said she embraced Islam to marry an Iranian, will know next month if she can renounce the religion.

Siti Fatimah Tan Abdullah’s application for an order to declare herself a non-Muslim will be decided by the Syariah High Court here on Aug 17.

The 38-year-old from Nibong Tebal filed the application in May last year.

A decision was to have been made today but the case was postponed as the presiding judge was on medical leave.

In her affidavit to renounce the religion, Siti Fatimah, whose given name is Tan Ean Huang, said she had never practised any of the Islamic teachings despite having converted in July 1998.
She said her lifestyle never changed and she continued following the Buddhist teachings and prayed to various deities like the Tua Pek Kong, Kuan Yin and Thi Kong.

She claimed her conversion was done for the sake of marrying an Iranian named Ferdoun Ashanian.

The couple got married in 2004 but the man has since left her and Siti Fatimah said she had no knowledge of his whereabouts.

Siti Fatimah now wants the Penang Islamic Religious Council to declare that she is no longer a Muslim under Section 61 (3) of the Penang Islamic Administration Enactment.

She also wants the court to change the religious status on her identity card from Muslim to Buddhist.

Siti Fatimah was represented by Ahmad Jailani Abdul Ghani while the council was represented by Ahmad Munawir Abdul Aziz.

Stop making statements on secular state, Hishammuddin tells MCA

July 20th, 2007
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but NST still managed to print this article, since it does not go against Najib's comments.
 
BERNAMA
 

RANAU, Fri:

Umno Youth chief Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein today asked MCA to stop making statements on Malaysia being a secular state..

He said though it was nothing new, such claims would not benefit anyone.

“I’m not naive enough to allow this issue to go on,” he told reporters when asked to comment on the issue after opening the Ranau Umno delegates conference.

MCA secretary-general Datuk Ong Ka Chuan had said the party had ample evidence to show that Malaysia was a secular state, including several important events leading to the country’s independence and formation of Malaysia.

He had cited notes prepared by the Colonial Office dated May 23, 1957 at the London Conference Talks.
Various groups have also disagreed with Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak’s remarks that Malaysia was never a secular state, saying that the deputy Prime Minister had ignored the country’s constitutional history and social contract.

Bar Council Malaysia president Ambiga Sreenevasan had said one only need to look at the Articles in the Federal Constitution, the system of government and administration of justice to show that Malaysia was not an Islamic state.

Najib had said Malaysia is an Islamic state that adheres to the fundamentals of Islam and having a Constitution which states Islam as the official religion.

He said that being an Islamic state did not mean that the rights of non-Muslims were not respected. — BERNAMA

Ministry bans Islamic state debate in media

July 20th, 2007
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no wonder there's nothing in today's papers about najib's opinion or MCA and others' responses.
 
 
From Malaysiakini:

Ministry bans Islamic state debate in media
Ng Ling Fong & Soon Li Tsin
Jul 19, 07 5:43pm

The Internal Security Ministry has confirmed that they have given a directive to all mainstream media not to publish any news on the issue of Malaysia being an Islamic state.

Internal Security Ministry’s Publications Control and Al-Quran Texts Unit senior officer Che Din Yusof told malaysiakini that they are afraid that allowing such discussions would cause “tension”.

“Yes we have given the directive to all mainstream newspapers. Islam is a sensitive issue. They cannot publish any news on whether the country is secular or Islam.

“Stop harping on this. The debate would never end,” he asserted when contacted today.

However, he said newpapers can still publish statements from Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and his deputy Najib Abdul Razak on the country being an Islamic state.

On Tuesday, Najib said Malaysia is an Islamic state and not a secular one while carefully assuring members of minority faiths that their rights will be protected.

He said the mainly-Muslim Malaysia has never been a secular nation as the government has always been driven by the fundamentals of Islam.

“Islam is the official religion and we are an Islamic state," Najib told reporters after he opened an international conference on the role of Islamic states.

“But as an Islamic state, it does not mean that we don't respect the non-Muslims. The Muslims and the non-Muslims have their own rights,” he was quoted saying.

No negative reactions

His comments have since drawn protests from the Opposition, civil society groups and MCA.

Che Din pointed out that while the two top leaders of the country can make such statements, any reactions from political parties and the public will not be allowed to be published.

“Reaction from political parties and the public cannot be published especially the negative reactions,” he said.

Several journalists and editors were contacted and they confirmed that they will adhere to the instruction.

Some of the editors also noted that they have already retracted some commentary on this issue from their newspapers.

Deputy Internal Security Minister Fu Ah Kiow could not be reached for further comments and clarification.

Dismal ignorance

Responding to Najib statement, MCA yesterday said that historical facts and documents showed that Malaysia was a secular state.

MCA Secretary General Ong Ka Chuan yesterday issued a statement stating that documents prepared by the British authorities before granting independence to Malaysia in 1957 clearly stipulated that “the members of the Alliance delegation…had no intention of creating a Muslim theocracy and that Malaya would be a secular state”.

“This was the consensus and social contract agreed upon by our forefathers,” he said.

Today PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim also lambasted Najib over his remark, calling it as "exposing his (Najib’s) dismal ignorance" of what an Islamic state was all about.

He said Najib's statement was calculated for political mileage.