Posts Tagged ‘Religion’

PM comments on Revathi’s crusade

July 10th, 2007
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Finally, we get some response from the top person himself regarding Revathi's crusade. Reading the Star's report, I was surprised to note that he "brushed off such claims as wild allegations." when asked about torture in these centers. Revathi may be a nobody, but what she mentioned was her own experience while at the center, and I seriously doubt it is merely allegations. Worse still, in NST, it is mentioned that "Rehabilitation centres are not for torturing, only counselling". Yeah, sure…and ice-creams don't have sugar in them too.
 
Let's pray that Revathi succeeds in her crusade against this evil,  to be in the path of her chosen faith.
 
 
The Star Version:source
PM: Find out grouses of those wanting to leave Islam

PUTRAJAYA: The Prime Minister wants the religious authorities to find out the grouses of Muslims who renounce Islam. 

Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said he had repeatedly told the religious officers to listen to their problems, to learn why they want to leave the faith, and in the case of converts, why they wish to return to their former religion. 

"Find out what they are disappointed with, why a Muslim convert would return to her earlier religion after the death of her husband," he told newsmen after opening the 18th Conference of International Islamic FIQH Academy here yesterday. 

The Prime Minister, who was asked to comment on the spate of court cases involving people seeking to leave the faith, admitted that he did not know why "suddenly these things seem to be coming out one after another." 

He recognised, however, that there was a problem and wanted to know the reasons why Muslims were leaving Islam. 

He also said he had not heard of people being tortured at religious rehabilitation centres, and brushed off such claims as wild allegations.

NST version: source

'Religious authorities should listen to grouses'

PUTRAJAYA: Religious authorities should be prepared to listen to Muslims who wanted to leave Islam, the prime minister said.

"I have always told our religious authorities that they should be ready to listen to these grouses and solve the problem," Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said at a press conference after opening the 18th Conference of the International Islamic Fiqh Academy here.

The prime minister was asked to comment on a number of highly publicised cases of Muslims wishing to renounce their religion, the latest of which was that of 29-year-old M. Revathi, born Siti Fatimah Abdul Karim, whose profession of the Hindu faith earned her a six-month detention at a rehabilitation centre in Selangor.

She was released into the care of her Muslim parents on Thursday.

Abdullah said he did not know why such cases were coming up one after another.

On allegations of torture at the Islamic rehabilitation centres, Abdullah said he had not heard of such claims.

"Rehabilitation centres are not for torturing, only counselling."

In his speech at the conference, the prime minister said the Muslim ummah needed to derive the necessary juristic approaches to enable it to engage in new developments in the field of sciences.

He called on Muslim scholars to be innovative, a premise upon which the principle of ijtihad stood.

"It is always easier to take the path of least resistance, to simply say 'no' but in doing so, we may rob the Muslim ummah of the opportunity for progress. Instead, Muslim scholars must have the courage to study and contemplate the great issues of the day with wisdom and sincerity."

Muslim scholars, Abdullah added, must always approach religious interpretation in the best interests of the ummah.

"The law does not exist in a vacuum, it is a product of the world's view and the ethics of society.

"We must walk away from senseless polemics in minor matters and instead focus on the priorities of the ummah."

Speaking to reporters, the prime minister said he had proposed Kuala Lumpur as a venue for ulama to find ways of ending conflict in the Middle East.

"I have discussed this with Fiqh Academy president (Dr Saleh Ibn Humaid) and secretary-general (Muhammad Al Habib Ibn Khuja). The ulama should be given the opportunity to express their views on the conflicts and whether there is a necessity to hold discussions between the factions, politicians and governments."

Malaysia ‘convert’ claims cruelty – BBC version

July 9th, 2007
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Malaysia 'convert' claims cruelty

By Jonathan Kent
BBC News, Kuala Lumpur


 

Revathi Massosai

Revathi Massosai alleges harsh treatment in detention

A Malaysian woman held for months in an Islamic rehabilitation centre says she was subjected to mental torture for insisting her religion is Hinduism.

Revathi Massosai, the name by which she wants to be known, says she was forced to eat beef despite being a Hindu.

Miss Massosai was seized by the Islamic authorities in January when she went to court to ask that she be registered as a Hindu rather than a Muslim.

The case is one of a number that have raised religious tensions in Malaysia.

Miss Massosai was born to Muslim converts and given a Muslim name, but she was raised as a Hindu by her grandmother and has always practised that faith.

However, under Malaysia's Islamic law, having Muslim parents makes one a Muslim and, as such, one is not allowed to change one's faith or marry a non-Muslim.

But Miss Massosai married a Hindu man in 2004 and the couple have a young daughter.

Headscarf

When in January she asked a court to officially designate her a Hindu she was detained and taken to an Islamic rehabilitation centre.

Muslims take part in Friday prayer at the National Mosque in Kuala Lumpur

Only the Islamic courts can allow a Muslim legally to change faith

Her detention was twice extended to six months, during which time she says religious officials tried to make her pray as a Muslim and wear a headscarf.

However, the claim that will particularly shock Hindus is that the camp authorities tried to force her to eat beef.

A lawyer representing the Malacca state Islamic department responsible for Miss Revathi's arrest, rejected her allegations and said officials believe that she can still be persuaded to embrace Islam.

She is adamant that she will remain a Hindu. In the meantime, Miss Revathi and her daughter have been placed in the custody of her Muslim parents.

Revathi’s glad to be back home – NST version

July 7th, 2007
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Housewife glad to be back home

source

SHAH ALAM: M. Revathi, the housewife and mother who was released on Thursday after six months' internment in a faith rehabilitation centre, is overjoyed at being reunited with her family.

"The separation was unbearable. I do not want any woman to go through the same ordeal," she said at the Shah Alam High Court yesterday, where she was following a habeas corpus application her husband V. Suresh filed on her behalf two months ago.

The mother of an 18-month-old daughter described her stay at the centre in Hulu Yam Bharu, Selangor, as a sad chapter in her life.

"I really missed my husband and daughter who was then still being breast-fed."

Revathi, whose Muslim name is Siti Fatimah Abdul Karim, said she had always looked forward to seeing them once a fortnight even if it was for a short while outside the centre's gates.

Wearing a red pottu on her forehead to symbolise her marriage to a Hindu, she said she would continue to profess and practise the Hindu faith.

Revathi was detained at the Baitul Aman faith rehabilitation centre on Jan 8.

On Thursday, the Malacca Syariah High Court ordered that she be placed under the care of her Muslim parents.

Revathi said the court had also ruled that she should remain a Muslim.

Recollecting her time at the centre, Revathi said she would be up at 5am and undergo religious programmes until 11pm each day.

"But I was left alone when others performed obligatory prayers five times a day," she said.

She said the other women, including wayward girls, at the centre sympathised with her and comforted her.

Revathi said she cried a lot, especially when she was left alone.

"I looked forward to the day I would be set free," she said.

Her parents had converted to Islam before their children were born. Revathi, the eldest of five siblings, was raised by her grandmother in Merlimau, Malacca.

She met Suresh nine years ago and in 2004 they underwent a Hindu wedding, whereupon she took the name Revathi.

Soon after the marriage, she attempted to change her Muslim name and religion at the National Registration Department but was told to get a certificate from the Syariah Court.

Her misery began when she made the application and the state religious authority obtained a court order to send her to the rehabilitation centre.

Revathi released conditionally

July 6th, 2007
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Revathi really freed and placed under parents care? imagine that..an adult..married and mother of a child is deemed unfit to take care of herself. what a joke!!! no wonder she says

"Because of their behaviour, I hate (benci) Islam even now," she added.

 
lets hope our voice – the consultative council – and MHS will take some action over this. perhaps start an online and offline petition or  even candlelight vigil all over malaysia – 31st august is a good date, public holiday so many can come and support.

 
please forward.
 
 
The mild version from the Sun

Woman freed from Islamic centre, court dismisses habeas corpus application
R.Surenthira Kumar

source
SHAH ALAM (July 6, 2007): The High Court here today dismissed an application by the husband of a woman whom he claimed was unlawfully detained for 180 days in an Islamic faith rehabilitation centre in Hulu Yam Baru in Batang Kali, Selangor.
Lawyers representing Siti Fatimah Abdul Karim's husband V.Suresh had prepared to argue the Habeas Corpus application but were only informed late yesterday about her release from the Baitul Aman Faith Rehabilitation Centre in Hulu Yam.

The remand period, initially for 80 days and then extended to 100 days, was supposed to expire midnight today.

Suresh had claimed his wife, who goes by the name M.Revathi, 29, was being unlawfully detained in the centre after she was taken away by officials from the Malacca Islamic Religious Council officers (MAIM) when she turned up at the Syariah court on Jan 8.

Lawyer representing the Superintendent of the centre and the Selangor Islamic Religious Council (MAIS) Mohamed Haniff Khatri Abdulla told the court Siti Fayimah was released from detention and ordered to be placed under the custodyof her parents following a decision by the Syariah court in Malacca yesterday.

"Since the Syariah court has the wisdom to release Siti Fatimah, she is no longer under detention and therefore this application becomes redundant," said Mohamed Haniff Khatri.

He cited several Federal Court cases and decisions on the issue to support his argument and appealed to judge Datuk Su Geok Yiam to dismiss the application.

Lawyer representing Suresh, Karpal Singh appealed to the court for the case to be heard despite it becoming academic after Revathi's release.

He said it was necessary for the matter to be heard as it was a case of public interest and perhaps it was an appropriate time for the court to ventilate further on the case because there was an increasing trend in such cases.

Karpal also cited some Federal Court cases on the issue and appealed to the court to give Revathi a chance to tell the court what transpired in the Syariah court.

He also said the Syariah court's order for Revathi's parents to take custody of her was odd because she was no longer a minor and is married.

Judge Datuk Su Geok Yiam, in her decision, said since Siti Fatimah was no longer under detention and therefore she had no choice but to dismiss the case.

"The law on this issue is clear, once the subject matter of a habeas corpus application is no longer under detention, the court has no jurisdiction to hear the application," said Su.

Later outside the courtroom, Revathi claimed the following took place at the centre:

-not given medical attention when she was sick;
-no proper food and was also forced to consume beef;
-forced to wear headscarf;
-not allowed to meet her 18-month-old daughter Diviya Dharshini; and
-threatened her "thali" (saffron coloured woven thread or gold chain worn around the neck by Indian women who are married) would be removed and forced to embrace Islam.

She added her husband took care of their daughter before Diviya Dharshini was handed over to her parents' custody.

Revathi said her parents had converted to Islam before her birth but she was raised as a Hindu by her grandmother.

She married Suresh in March 2004 according to Hindu rites in a temple in Malacca, but the marriage was not registered. Revathi had sought to renounce Islam and was told to go throught the Syariah court to obtain the necessary approvals and certificate when she was taken away by MAIM officers for rehabilitation.

The couple is now having difficulties registering the birth of Diviya Dharshini.

MAIM spokesman Tuah Atan, who was present in court, said Siti Fatimah is a Muslim and her parents were given custody to enable her to continue living as a Muslim.

He said they will assist Siti Fatimah to "return to the right path" in due time.

Suresh, meanwhile, said he is glad his wife has been released but was uneasy about the Syariah court order handing custody of his wife to her parents, adding he will seek advice from his lawyers on the next course of action.

Mohamed Haniff Khatri was assisted by counsels Zainul Rijal Abu Bakar, Rahim Sinwan and Abdul Halim Bahari.

Karpal was assisted by J.Amardas and Nicholas Netto while Edward Saw held a watching brief for the Malaysian Bar and Sunil Lopez for the Malaysian Consultative Council on Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST).

AND the STRONG version from MK

Revathi, 29, still steadfastly wants to remain a Hindu, despite her six month detention by religious
authorities and ongoing efforts to make her a Muslim.

"My name is Revathi. I want to hold on to that name forever. I want to drop the name Siti Fatimah,"
Revathi, sporting pottu (Hindu symbol) on her forehead, told reporters outside the Shah Alam High
Court today.

Born Siti Fatimah Abdul Karim to Muslim convert parents, she was called Revathi Masoosai by the
grandmother who raised her.

She married to V Suresh in 2004 according to Hindu rites and has a 18-month old daughter.

In January this year, Revathi was detained at the Malacca Syariah High Court when she attended a hearing
over her application to have her official religious status be recognised as a Hindu.

She was detained at the court and subsequently held at the Ulu Yam religious rehabilitation camp in Selangor
for six months until she was freed yesterday.

Speaking about her experience inside the camp, Revathi today described that she was subjected to 'mental
torture' and claimed that she defied attempts to coerce her to follow religious classes.

"Their programmes are solely on religion. (There were also) prayer classes. I never attended (any of them).
I only attended counselling. During counselling, they said I had to do this and that. They said I had to
follow (religious) laws. I just buat tidak tahu (ignore).

"I argued that I had a right to choose my religion, but they replied that I should not talk about (my)
rights," said Revathi who is presently living with her Muslim parents as ordered by the religious
authorities.

She claimed that many had ran away from the 'jail-like' conditions of the camp but she had not.

"A lot of people ran away, even though (the camp was for Muslims). Though I'm a Hindu, I could bertahan
(bear with the conditions), because I'm upholding the good name of Hinduism," she added.

During her detention, she was not allowed visits. Recalling the only time she got to see her husband
during her detention, Revathi said: "Even though I was allowed to meet my husband, I got
to see him (standing) outside the camp, without their permission. I saw his car and I ran towards the fence.
It was only once (I got to see him during the detention). After that, they (from the centre) dragged
me away.

"Before, it was not enclosed. Now, they used zinc (sheets) to surround the area. You can't see inside
and we won't know who is outside," she said.

The emotional moment where Revathi and Suresh were momentarily reunited was captured on film by
Al-Jazeera and aired on April 23 in current affairs programme Everywoman.

Revathi was initially detained for 80 days at the camp but her detention was extended for 100 days twice. Her
stint ended yesterday when she was presented before the Malacca Syariah Court.

She was ordered to live with her parents and undergo counselling. She lamented that she was "unsatisfied"
with the decisions made by the court.

"They held me for six months, only to say that I cannot leave Islam. If that is the case, they should
have told me earlier, so I don't have to go into the centre.

"Who's going to compensate for the six months I was there? (It is a) waste of my time! I was separated
from my child and husband. How are they going to compensate?" she asked.

"I have a right to choose my religion. In six months, they cannot make me change my mind, how can they do it now?"

She also said that religious officials tried to force her to pray, eat beef and wear a headscarf.

"Because of their behaviour, I hate (benci) Islam even now," she added.

Malaysian Poverty Rate is 5.7%

July 5th, 2007
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from 60% to 5.7% is good achievement considering it took only 50 years to do that.
 
 Now, has our poverty bar remained the same or moved minimally only. If i'm not mistaken poverty line is around RM600 in urban area. is this an acceptable level? Should it be raised, and if yes to what amount? If we raise the poverty line, surely the percentage will increase.
 
Should we have different rates for bumi and non-bumi since bumis get privileges, subsidies, and discounts in many areas?
 
 
 
Pak Lah: Be a caring society

By JANE RITIKOS

KUALA LUMPUR: Be a caring society. Do not think twice about doing charity for the poor, regardless of their race and creed. 

Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi made this plea to all Malaysians to help the Government wipe out poverty in the country. 

The Prime Minister wants everyone to progress together. 

"I am proud to see, throughout the nation, people of all races and religions, who show a caring attitude towards those who are less fortunate than them.  

"When giving charity, they do not think of the poor in terms of race or religion. 

"They give whatever they can, whether the amount is big or small. 

"I would like this to continue to be a part of the Malaysian attitude," he said at the Poverty Eradication Foundation (Yayasan Basmi Kesmiskinan) dinner here last night. 

The Prime Minister also launched a fund-raising drive for the foundation's special children's education centre. 

Abdullah said the fight against poverty had always been a serious matter for the Government. 

"This is reflected in the poverty level, which has significantly reduced from over 60% of the population at the time of Independence to 5.7% of the people at present," he said. 

"The Government's poverty eradication policy has always disregarded race and religious factors," he said, adding that the country's achievement was recognised by the United Nation's Millennium Development Report that named Malaysia as the best country in efforts to eradicate poverty.  

"We will continue to wipe out poverty.  

"Our aim is zero hardcore poor people by 2010 and I hope we can achieve this together," he said. 

Abdullah presented the foundation's first award to a personality who had championed the cause of eradicating poverty.  

The award, Anugerah Tokoh Basmi Kemiskinan YAB Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, Yayasan Basmi Kemiskinan, was given to Rural and Regional Development Ministry advisor Datuk Paduka Rahmah Abu Kassim.