Posts Tagged ‘Syariah Law’

Conversion to Islam forum

August 3rd, 2008
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I wonder who will be protesting against this forum:

The Family Law Committee of the Bar Council Malaysia will
organise a forum on issues relating to conversion to Islam.

The forum Conversion to Islam: Article 121 (1A) of the Federal Constitution, Subashini and Shamala Revisited will be held on Aug 9 at the Bar Council headquarters here.

Bar
Council Malaysia Family Law Committee deputy chairman Foo Yet Ngo said
it was concerned over the issue of conversion to Islam that had caused
much grief and conflict.

Among the issues was that of one person
converting to Islam without the knowledge of the spouse, and the
conversion to Islam of the children by one parent without the knowledge
and consent of the other.

“The problems are due to the conflict
of jurisdiction between the Syariah and civil court in relation to
divorce, child custody and distribution of property,” she said at a
press conference yesterday.

Hudud laws anyone?

July 30th, 2008
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Nik Aziz sure knows how to trump his fellow party leaders. His statement on suggestion that hudud and gisas laws to be used by a merged UMNO – PAS. As reported in Malaysiakini, MCA was the first one off the blocks to oppose this suggestion. This was stated by its Youth secretary-general, Wee Ka Siong. The deputy education minister has described Nik Aziz’s idea as “totally unacceptable by MCA”.

I am disappointed and gravely concerned with Nik Aziz’s statement to implement hudud and qisas laws as it would mean the creation of a theocratic Islamic state.

I urge Umno to object against PAS’ proposal as it is a matter of principle.

So far, Gerakan and PRS (Parti Rakyat Sarawak), two small parties in the coalition had come out with statements that cautions the UMNO-PAS discussions.

Have to wait another few days for MIC, but its politicians who blog already have something to say. Check out Murugesan‘s blog. Not sure about Saravanan.

Elangesvaran fond of Lord Ganesha

July 9th, 2008
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Selvam told Malaysiakini that Elangesvaran was never a Muslim and had always been a practicing Hindu.

 

My stepbrother has special affection towards Lord Ganesha (the Elephant God)

However the judge ruled that:

 

the High Court has no jurisdiction to decide over an earlier Syariah Court ruling

This despite the fact that no proper proof was submitted on the conversion.

Their family’s lawyer, Karpal Singh will however go ahead with an appeal to the higher court to seek a landmark decision “to once for all end controversies arising from cases of this nature.”

He believed the grounds for Balia’s decision could be challenged since Syariah Court’s jurisdiction covers only Muslims and it could only make rulings on Islamic apostasy, “not when it involves a person’s religious identity.” “Only civil courts can rule on whether a person is a Muslim or not,” he told journalists outside the chambers.

Karpal said it was wrong for the Perak Islamic religious authority to file for a decision at the Syariah Court when the case was pending at the Penang High Court, thus putting “unwarranted and undesired” pressure on judge Balia.

“It was a direct interference by the Syariah Court into the judicial powers of the civil court.”

Meanwhile HINDRAF representatives expressed shock over the ruling:

 

Describing the decision as shocking, Hindraf national coordinator RS Thanenthiran suggested that “Syariah Court seems more powerful and prevailing over civil courts when the federal constitution says otherwise. This is injustice to Elangesvaran family and the Hindu community at large. “I urge the Appeals Court to make an ultimate and fair decision to put to rest this persisting controversy,” he said.

Hindraf Perak coordinator A Vethamurthy said the decision today implied that “it was waste of energy, time and resources for non-Muslims to seek justice through the civil courts.”

I think there’s something more sinister to this story. Who is Elangesvaran? Why is he important until the religious people want to snatch his body without providing any proof? Why did Elangesvaran continue living with his non-Muslim wife if indeed he converted? Why did he commit suicide knowing that suicide is a big sin in Islam? Will the religious hooligans try to snatch the children as well citing that Elangesvaran already converted them? His wife better send the kids overseas as a precaution.

MHS on Elangesvaran body snatching case

July 8th, 2008
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Earlier, I wrote that MHS, among others, did not respond to the body snatching case involving the deceased Elangesvaran. It has been pointed out that MHS made a press statement on the 24th (reproduced below) hoping that the religious department does not pursue the case in syariah court. Which is exactly what those people did.

MHS, as the recognised representatives of the Hindu community, were duly ignored.

The statement:

 

MAIP should respect the Federal Constitution and Federal Court

PRESS STATEMENT – 24 June 2008

Majlis Agama Islam Perak should respect the Federal Constitution and the Federal Court.

We refer to the report in the Malaysia Nanban on Tuesday, 24th June 2008 (page 3) regarding the turmoil faced by the family of the late Elangesvaran.

We understand that the late Elangesvaran allegedly converted to Islam at some point. He has now committed suicide, and his body is at the hospital. The Islamic authorities say he died a Muslim, but his family members and friends say that Elangesvaran continued to profess and practise Hinduism all the way through until his untimely death.

The Malaysia Hindu Sangam extends our deepest condolences to his family in their time of grief on the untimely and early demise of Elangesvaran.. We are also saddened that yet again a grieving family is being put through torment because Islamic religious authorities are threatening to snatch away the body of their loved one away.

We have today written to the Menteri Besar of Perak urging him to ensure that the civil courts are allowed to determine the religious status of the late Elangesvaran. Therefore, we urge the Islamic authorities not to prosecute claims in the Syariah court for the bodies of the dead who are in the custody of non Muslim next of kin. If a non-Muslim is a party to the dispute, the Syariah courts should not deal with the matter.

We also urge the Perak State Government to recognise the constitutional right of a non Muslim who may have converted to Islam for some reason to revert to his original religion, or to some other religion. A person’s right to profess and practice the religion of his choice should not be unnecessarily interfered with by the State.

It is our view that the issue of whether the late Elangesvaran was a “person professing the religion of Islam” (quoting the words used by the Federal Constitution) must be determined by the civil courts.

We point out in our letter that it is clear from the unanimous decision of the Federal Court in the case of Latifah bte Mat Zin v Rosmawati bte Sharibun & Anor [2007] 5 MLJ 101, FC that the Syariah courts do not have jurisdiction at all to determine any dispute where a party to the dispute does not profess Islam. The comments of the learned Federal Court judges in latest case of Subashini a/p Rajasingam v Saravanan a/l Thangathoray (2007) also reinforce this proposition already entrenched in Item 1, List II, 9th Schedule to the Federal Constitution.

In our letter, we state our expectation that as a statutory body responsible to advise His Royal Highness the Ruler of Perak on Islamic affairs, MAIP has a responsibility to respect the Federal Constitution as the supreme law of this country and these decisions of our highest court.

The non Muslim family members of the Elangesvaran must have an opportunity for proper access to justice. The crucial question is whether at the time of his death, Elangesvaran professed (or acknowledged) himself to be a Muslim. This must be determined based on the civil law, and the Hindu family members of Elangevaran must be given full access to justice in order to determine this question.

Dated 24th June 2008

Datuk A Vaithilingam
President
Malaysia Hindu Sangam

 

Elangesvaran buried as muslim by body snatchers

July 8th, 2008
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The sad news was revealed late yesterday, when the High Court dismissed application by the family to stop the religious authorities from snatching the deceased and burying him. Details are in the hard copy of today’s Star, page N28. Elangesvaran was buried in the Parit Buntar Muslim cemetery last night. What a disgraceful act by these criminals. Just like when they appealed at syariah court instead of facing the family in civil court. Another definition for cowardice.

All this because there’s some proof scribbled on paper that the deceased had converted. These religious hooligans (extremists or terrorist is also suitable here) did not provide proof to the family about the conversion (at least in public). What’s so difficult about that? Where’s the compassion these guys always trumpet about?

Where in the world in MIC, IPF, DAP, PKR, Gerakan, Hindraf, MHS? Our great Indian leader and saviour of the Indian community…where is he hiding?

The family is planning to put up another appeal, which if they win will result in the body being exhumed and buried (cremated) according Hindu rites.

Let this be another warning (yes, we have plenty of such sad cases every few months) to our community. Think carefully before doing anything rash. Talk to family members, friends, or spiritual organizations so that you don’t make the wrong decision. More importantly, make sure that your religious status is correct in your MyKad, Registration Department system and other relevant documents.

If there’s no proof of conversion is forthcoming, I hope those body snatchers rot in hell.