Aug 17 2007
Samy hits back at HINDRAF on memorandum
finally, something that appeared on mainstream media (the NST) about the memorandum by HINDRAF. Just some hot air and no facts as usual 
Samy Vellu hits back at Hindu Rights Action Force
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PUTRAJAYA, FRI:
MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu today launched a stinging attack against a non-governmental organisation, the Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF), which claimed that the Barisan Nasional (BN) government had done little to address the woes of the Malaysian Indian community over the last 50 years.
“I must state here that if there is anything that affects the Indian community, the MIC will be there to fight it out even when we are partners of the Barisan Nasional. To me, I have never remained idle and I don’t waste time,†Samy Vellu, who is also Works Minister, told Bernama today.
The MIC supremo was asked to comment on a 18-point memorandum by HINDRAF, which was handed to the Prime Minister’s office last Sunday by the organisation’s chairman P. Waytha Moorthy, secretary V.K Regu and its legal adviser P. Uthayakumar.
Apart from stating that the Indian community was marginalised by the BN government, in the memorandum, HINDRAF also wanted an end to special privileges given to Malays. The memorandum also took a dig at Umno asking the largest political party in the country to “stop playing politics” through the “mandore†(supervisor) system by dishing out aid to the Indian community on a piecemeal basis.
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WHATAVER LA, i will give a 200% support for HINDRAF………….
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Hindraf is doing a great job addressing the problems faced by indians and bringing in to attention to the government. Politicians who have got limited capabilities should just shut up and give way to NGO’s who are not bound to anyone.. Politicians can’t do much as they must agree to their boss to remain in their post. SO
DATUK S SHUT UPand let someone do your job.. No point you representing the government and putting a show. You would only cause a big shame and prevent us indians from developing. Do you want to get the tittle BAPA KEMUSNAHAN KAUM INDIA when you step down??[Reply]
i think mr.dato should step down ASAP..he even cannot look after his own family matters….so it is extremely a big laugh when he say he is there for indian…rubbish! HINDRAF is the best way.
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he should consider taking a break it obvious his job has brought much distress and problems ruining his own family. Let someone who will do the job occupy the seat instead.
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Badawi : Dato seri apa macam ini tahun mau dapat lu orang punya undiiiii ?
Samy Vellu : Aiyoo…. Badawi lu jangan takutla, saya sudah cakap sama lu itu hariiiiii… ini tahun itu AIMST boleh cakap saya punya nama, lu tengok 5 tahun lepas apa jadi? lu punya orang tembak mati sama satu perempuan india mengandong tapi dia orang indiaaaaa undi BN juga
lagi dulu 5 tahun saya punya anak main MAIKA punya duit tapi dia orang undi juga ,Badawi lu jangan takut saya gerenti sama lu ini tahun pun itu bodoh punya india mesti undi BN juga
Badawi : Bagus! Bagus! MIC bagus!
Najib : Samy vellu ini tahun kalau BN menang lu mau kasi apa?
Samy Vellu : Ini tahun saya kasi *************, apamacam mau ka?
Najib :Aiyaaa… itu lu punya *********la dia punya ********** sudah ********* sudah ********* banyaklaaaa
Samy vellu: OH itu macam ka, kalau itu macam aaah saya kasi saya punya ********* mau ka
Najib : Tak maula
Samy Vellu : Apapasal?
Najib: Nanti satu kali masuk itu tol mau bayar
Samy vellu : tak apala saya kasi lu ********* saya punya *********
Najib : Fuyoooooo … mesti bestla! saya hari-hari ********* ingat sama dia tau ka, jahat la lu Samy vellu baru kasi tau sama gua
Samy Vellu : OK iskarang BN menang lu mau kasi apa sama saya ?
Najib : Saya kasi sama lu itu Todi india mari punya ok
Najib,Badawi,Samy Vellu: CHEEEERRRRRSSSSS!
MP: Censored due to inappropriate language
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Aiyo…no end to the his chronicles. Just a curiosity after reading his “stinging Attack”…Tax paying Indians who are contributing to nation building are still sending their children to miserable dilapitated schools, shophouse schools, etc, and these are “Kebangsaan” schools mind you. Maybe MIC should explain to the parents of these unfortunate children why is it that they being honest and hard working citizens of the country who voted for the current ruling party are getting the raw end of the deal. Also maybe MIC should explain to all indians of this country why are these schools having funding issues with the government (government that they elected) despite being “Kebangsaan” schools.
Now we have some people with b@#$s to address issues that have been plaguing our community for decades. Kindly refrain from disturbing them as they are practicing their rights as citizens of this country just as you. Not only are they practicing it but they are actually educating the indians here of their rights which they were ignorant of all this while, rights which MIC never taught the indians here. It would be very unwise to hog every indian issue in the country and maybe sometimes it would be wise to give other knowledgable and capable people a chance to contribute something to the community. We are a democracy and that means we should not be dictated.
The laws of the universe still exists…what goes around comes around. Look around and you will see.
cheers
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Well one thing 4 sure, thr is no proper leader, an indian leader especially 2 lead our community n voice out our problems n fighting for our rights. Well, its just too bad 4 us as indians 2 be born here n treated like an imigrant.Come on indians, prove that we are capable and come on guys, this is pur country n we are the citizens of this country. Well, only hindraf is exerting their fullest “force” n letting the other indians know bout wats happening here in msia. N stop being selfish n being a puppet of UMNO u MIC peeps, we only have u! If u cant help us then step down n let the one whos willing 2 fight 4 our community n sustain our presence here in this country…
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Dear all,
I have been hearing people of giving support and says we support this and that. But that’s not the real support. We should help out HINDRAF in creating awareness among our community on their rights as a Malaysian Citizen. In order to create the awareness, my friends and I have started to hand out copies of the Memorandum sent by Mr. Uthayakumar to the Prime Minister to the Indians out there in public. I hope those reading this comment would start doing that too including MP. Please do it. It could be our contribution to this good deed by HINDRAF.
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Yes Dalapathi, there are many more people that are unaware of the struggle by Hindraf and other individuals due to lack of news in media and also lack of access to internet. we can start by educating our family and friends. even so called university graduates or professionals sometime are living under coconut shell, oblivious to whatever happening around them, what more with those in villages or rural areas.
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yes !! u guys are right. finally, there are someone there are leading us to the right path. let hold hand together, to get our right not just for us but for our future generation. don’t let them (our kids n so on ) to be lost in all these gimmicks.thank mr uthayakumar .
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i support hindraf 1000%
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emm..we indians need our rights..we can’t be backward like how we r now..
the talent tat indians have is cannot be sho=wn out widely..
doesn’t mean tat if indians r less in a country,their idea and talent r not important..
so lets speak out n fight 4 our rights..
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Hindu valga, HINDRAF valga.
come on indian friends, wake up … support our indian community.. … ……. …….
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MP: edited to remove inappropriate language.
Come guys, Pray hard that the HINDRAF must get a good response… Malaysia politicians wil get big consequences over this… I dun kNw Dato samy vellu ********… makan duit… ****… HINDRAF rules……. Come on indians, lets fight for our rights and gone opportunities…… ask the malaysia gov…
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I gave my 1000% support for Hindraf. They should not merely consider for a speak with our self-proclaimed excellent Indian Supporter and best friend Dato Samy Vellu. Good say.. he cant event look after his family but determine on looking after the hindu community of malaysia.. yea right!
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DESTROYMIC…!DESTROYUMNO….!DESTROYBN….! SAFE THE INDIANS…! SAFE OUR TEMPLE….! LONG LIFE HINDRAF…![Reply]
Bravo HINDRAF…….
We are giving our full support for all your great movements……
Dear friends..pls support .Lets..FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS….
ELUNTHIRAE TAMILA….NAALAI ULEGAM SEIVOM..
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Well it seems like a lot of us share the same feelings and realise we do not have proper people to represent us in Malaysia. UMNO changed leadership,MCA changed leadership so why the hell can`t Dato kindly step a side and give MIC a new shot of life.
We are not against Barisan or the law as what is percieved by many.We want to be heard and we want to accepted as part of this country.Is that wrong to ask ??
If Barisan allows MIC to field candidates who haven`t done anything for the community then I`m definitely not going to vote for them .I wonder how many of u are going to ????
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finally there r sum1..to fight for our rights…we should support them…n b wit them..we should fight 4 our future generation…i dun think so…MIC is playing their role in a proper way…as i noe…so far…most of MIC ppl r SELFISH…GREEDY…n not really care bout our community…if they play their role in right way…i’m sure we indian wont b like a slave in a own country…they exchange our rights 4 their needs…i’m not a anti MIC or wat…but frm wat i saw…they failed to do their duty…they failed in brought up our community….n they drunk wit money…power..selfishness….n wit a god’s grace…there someone who concern bout our indians rights…n willling to fight 4 us…salute….we indianz alwiz there to support HINDRAF…..valga indianz…valga HINDRAF….
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I am elated that finally our people are speaking out what they have been harbouring over 50 years.The chinese and the malays are also harbouring disatisfaction.No point surpressing people.There must be freedom of expression so that real isues are revealed and addressd.Ruling the country with emergency and ISA and official secret act will contribute to a time bomb in surpressed emotions.Sooner this is realised sooner the solution can be found.I agree that MIC stands for “My Indian Company”Shame on the present leaders who cling on to power thinking that they are the ultimate saviours.
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All indians, dont forget to come british embassy this 25th nov(sun). Hope all indians will support HINDRAF.
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Shame on you samy…pls.step down for goodness of indian community..I support 100% Hindraf.
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Barisan Goverment is ********* ….please for god sake
change it..the rakyat is suffering..selangor MB is another stupid fellow instead of helping his citizen..he is wasting time by demolishing temple’s..i think he is having less work in his office or he is orang kurang waras..
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indian wake up ask for our rights don’t let mic **** make us as hamba abdi
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Bloodmates,
On the helm of these atrocities, please relate your support to the only group representing us and making it visible at the international platform.
The recent Bersih protest has tarnished the nation’s stand on democracy and the world is watching on the next course of action by the goverment. Meaning to say, after the reckless conduct which had a broadway screening on the news (international), the Malaise-an goverment will spare the rods for the next protest, supposedly to show that the democracy prevails here.
Hence, this is the best timing, judging by years of nuisance cover-ups and conduct, to march the streets to extend our support the group.
Rather than taking the struggle to the streets on a calm occasion where you coud be sighted for unlawful assembly and have chemical sprayed-on, it is best to do it while the eyes are on the nation.
Go for it….if not now, when?
-kattaboman
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The other day when I attended the meeting in Banting, there were thousands of Indians. Some looked like gangsters, some too young , some too old, girls , mothers, rich and poor. But for the first time , I saw ONE LOVE, ONE SPIRIT, ONE DETERMINATION.
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Vanakam vaalgha valamuden!Whatever,I will always give 100% support to HINDRAF.I hope other’s also will do the same things.Vaalgha tamil. . . !
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Happy Deepavali…vaalgha tamilan….vaalgha hindraf..Strive for success..see U all on 25th.
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Check out this blog..very well written,he really has an idea on what he is talking about although it’s contradicting with what we as Indian’s will normally voice out.
http://mahaguru58.blogspot.com/2007/08/samy-vellu-says-hindrafs-allegations.html
Nevertheless, we have enough Indian’s in this country to fight for our rights, but after reading this blog, i found out there is still not enough Indian’s with the same mentality in Malaysia.
It’s a shame that even after all this while we still have some Samyvellu supporter’s voicing out in blog’s.
Hindraf Valge!Indians Valge!Hindraf Valge!
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To tell you the truth, I had never been interested in the issue of INDIAN’s in M’sia until I knew there was a force called “HINDRAF”. Now almost everyday I talk about them and the issues our community are facing. I keep my self updated and also make sure all my friends & family are aware of it.
Why????
Because, if it’s not now then when are we going to fight for our vanishing right??? We have been marginalised up to the extend our rights is been threaten. Tomorrow is not a choice; it’s what we have done today to make our ppl aware about HINDRAF’s objective !!
Let’s not waste our time talking about someone who has spend thousands on his “hair make over” and stealing our life time savings…u know who I meant!! He is not even worth a penny and we all know that. There is a say ” Empty vessels makes more noise”. Let him say what he wants to say. He will say it and even more, but what he will never realise is that, we (INDIANS) aint gonna STOP until justice is prevailed.
I’ve never been this proud to be an INDIAN.
“Live like an INDIAN and die like one” !!!!!
Regards,
Royal INDIAN
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vaalgha tamil..lets 2gether strive for success….
en uriye inte indian makkal sotham.HINDRAF is a sun(suriyan)lets all the indians feel the heat of our success.put ur step in for our future.pray to god our suriyan(HINDRAF)must shine forever.I PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN.JAI HIND.
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Dear fellow Malaysians,
If HINDRAF can garner enough support from the Malaysian Indians captains of industry and see to it that the estate dwellers are given opportunities to improve their lot and escape slavery from there, chances are that the poverty levels will be reduced from amongst the Indians living here in Malaysia.
I speak Tamil but have yet to learn how to read or write the beautiful language.
Tamil needs to be spoken as it should be and I see the majority of Malaysian Indians speak ‘cinema Tamil’ which is at times crude and crass to the ear.
Tamil culture and Tamil literature needs to be given a revival here in Malaysia itself and more classes be provided by bodies such as HINDRAF and the Malaysian Hindu Sangam to inculcate a resurgence in the appreciation of Tamil to all Malaysians.
HINDRAF needs to also look into the root causes as to why the Malaysian Indians are facing unnecessary problems like the demolition of illegally built temples.
HINDRAF must not wait for the MIC or PPP to do things for the Malaysian Indian population.
When HINDRAF starts carrying out productive and positive programs to upgrade the lives of the Malaysian Indians through whatever means, slowly but surely the nation will start to take notice and HINDRAF might even have a political base to take over from the rhetoric spewing MIC.
Actions speak louder than words.
Ignore the castigations of Samy Vellu and go achieve these short term goals to improve the Malaysian Indians lot.
Once you achieve a certain level of accomplishments, slowly but surely your aspirations to help improve the lives of your fellow Malaysian Indians will be a shining beacon of excellence that will give credence to your lot than just make inroads here online.
This is my personal viewpoints and meant to inspire the leaders of HINDRAF to get their priorities right.
Start small and end up big instead of going the demonstrations and protests way. Serves no purpose but to paint yourselves as anti-peace and troublemakers which I surely hope HINDRAF is not!
Get to the root of Indians lack of progress which goes back to the basic Indian households.
Most waste away their days and nights watching Tamil movies and emulate the bad instead of the good that is portrayed in such movies.
Listen to how the Malaysian Indian youth speak and act. Does it not remind you of Tamil movie scripts?
We need to see progress amongst the Indians of Malaysia. HINDRAF can help them out if the leaders of HINDRAF practice what they speak of..which is to improve the lives of the Malaysian Indians.
My best wishes to all my fellow Malaysians here.
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vaalge tamil valarge tamil makkal….
inthe pooratham ellaa malaysia vaal indiayargaluku
oru vidi velliyage irukathum…
muthalle naame eduke vendiya theermanangal
malaysiyaavil irukire naame
ilanthu kondirukire urimaigalai paathukaake vendum
ilanthu poone urimaikaake pooradevendum
pooraduvathu enbathu ellarum paakaramaathiri
ilaai maraimugamaage,thanthiramaage, vivegamaage,
arivoodu,thooranooku sinthanaiyoodu,evaraiyum paathikaathavaaru naame pooradevendum…
ithatku chaandru chinese makkalai parungal
may kalavarthuku pin avange eduthe theermanam
enna??
inthe malaysiavoode economiyai avange kaiyeele
irukanumunu…eduthe theermanam
ippo athu nadakuthuthaane ….
anthe maathiri naamum seyal pathaal nichayam
20 varudthitkul inthe naathi naamum
original bumi puterathaan….
ithu ellam saathiyam aagumaa endru sonnal naame
edukevendiya kaariyangal
1)makkal idaiye ethaiyum arinthukollum pakuvam vara
vendum.
2)namakithe irukire veen perumai, pagathu,poramai,
thatperumai elathaiyum niruthanum
3)jaathi veri, mathaveri,niraveri,inaveri poondraa
alukugalai thudaitheriyanum
4)mooda nambikai,ariyaamai, thaalvu manapaanmai
suthamaa iruke koodathu
5)irai nambikai, pagutharivu, ethaiyum theera sinthithal,nithanam poondrvatriku mukiyam koduke vendum.
6)namidaiye sagothra thuvam valarke palagi kolle vendum
7)mathe inathai uyarvaage nanudaiye inathai thalvaage
ninaikum manapanmaiyai vithuvide vendum…
8)ulaganadapugaluku mukiyam kodukevendum
9)satha cinema , koothu ,kumaalam poondrevathiku
athigam mukiyam thuvam kodupathai kuraithu kolle vendum…
10)Namudaye palaiye valkai muraiyai ethu nallathu
ethu thevai illathathu endru nalla sinthithu seyal
pade vendum….
11)Tamil naathu kalacharam , arasiyal nirvage murai,
cinemathanam pondravathai naame pinpatruvathai
niruthi kolle vendum yaana malaysia liftstyle and
india liftstyle oppithu paathal naame avangaloode
10 years muniku irukiroom.
12)tamil palikoodam namudaiye india samuthayathitku
aani veer athai thanir ootri uram poothu valarke
venduyathu indiayargalaane namudaiye kadamai..
13)namudaiye inam perukathai athigarike muyachikanum
kuripaa ilam vayathile aan pen thirumanam seithu
kole vendum…athatku thirumane semipu endra
thithatai naame uruvaki kolle vendum as like
tabung haji maathiri
14)namuku endru oru stongaa vangi (bank) amaithu kolle
vendum
15)arivulle , anaithaiyum aravanaikum, pothunalamudaiye , thoore nooku sinthanaiyulle,
veen perumaiyai virumbaathe,inthe malaysia india
samuthaiyathai maikum nalle maipanaage “thalaivarai”
makkal adaiyaalam kandu thalaivaraake vendum..
aage ithu ellam nadaimuraiku vanthaal
nichayam 10 varudathitkul namudai
malaysia samuthaayam oru siranthe samuthayamaage
maaramudiyum
malaysia tamilanaage irukum naan
inthe samuthayam uyarthe naan thayaar…
ithai vaasikum anbu sagothar ,sagothariyea neengal
thayara?????
“pooruku sellum veeran verum aayuthathai mathu
nambinaal poothathu vivegam , irai arul , thannambikai,endre aayuthathaiyum edruthu sendraalthaan pooril velle mudiyum.”
“theeramaage sinthiyunga” veeramaage seyal padungal”
kadavul namudaiye samuthaayathai aasir valanguvaar.
VALGE TAMIL VALARGE TAMIL SAMUTHAAYAM…
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Talaivargaluku kadavul kodukum
ARULUM & SAABAMUM
NAATHU THALAIVARAAGE IRUPAVARGAL
KADAVUL THARUM UNATHAMAANE KODAI
ATHAI KADAVUL PIRATHINITHIYAAGE
IRUNTHU MAKKALUKU SEVAI SEIYUM
NALLE ULIYANAAGE IRUKANUM
Jesus Say: “unggalil thalaivanaage
iruke virumbuvan muthalil makkaluku nalle
paniyaalanaage iruke vendum” endraar.
THALAIVANAAGE IRUPAVARKU
IRUKE VENDIYA THAGUTHI
AVARURAIYE SAMUTHAYAM THAMUDAIYE PILLAIGAL
ENDRE UYARTHE ENNAM VENDUM
THANALAM KARUTHAATHE TIYAGIYAGE IRUKANUM
ITHAI MARATHE THALAIVANUDAIYE VALVU ENNE AAGUM??
ithoo kadavul tharum saabangal
1)Kadavulin sinathitku aalavar
2)thee nagaramaane “naragathil” thaluvaar
3)avanudaiye pugal thadam theriyaamal inthe manulagil
maraithu poogum
4)avanudaiye saabe keadu avanudaiye pillaigal avanudaiye vaarisugal athavathu 7 thaimurai vanthu vilum…
5)avanudaiya iruthi maranam mige kodumaiyaage irukum
saandru (IRAG PRESIDENT :SADAM HUSEIN , NAZi:HITLOR
iruthi saavu)
6)ella thalaimuraiyeelum makkalaal igalthu pesum pechiku aalavar
SELVAM SERKUM NOKATHITKAAGE THALIVARAGE VIRUMBUBAVAN
KADAVUL MATHIYEEL VERUKE PATHAVANAAGE AALAGUVAAN
AAGE THAIVARAAGE IRUKUM KAALATHILE SENJA THAVATHAI MARANTHU INIYAAVATHI SAMUTHAAYAM MUNERUVATHUKU
PADUPADE MUYACHIKE VENDUM
MANAM MAARINAAL UNAKU PARALOOGAM
MANAM IRUGINAAL UNAKU SAABAM
ETHU VENDUM UMAKU??
NIRNAIYAM SEIVATHU
UNUDAIYE MUDIVU
VALGE TAMIL
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We are fighting for our rights. Thats what we want. We need all the indians out there to support HINDRAF.We shouldnt show any gangsterism on 25th Nov’07 but we should seek our rights in peace n harmony way. I will support HINDRAF 10000000%…..
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I will support HINDRAF 100% AND Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu but Indianz should not be toooooooo calm
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In short message, here it goes……..
One indian voice is equivalent to shut the mounth of 1000 ****. Let the goverment enjoy and encourage the **** to invest in KTM (kuda, toto, magnum)sitting down in mamak coffe shop spending time instead of booming country economic growth.
Jai hind………..
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Vale ninaital valelam. Valiya illai bumi lei.
Endru konjum tattuva padaleiyin vasanam unggallukku nyavegam kattigiren.
Manasu vachha ethaiyum unggal lage sathika mudiyum.
Yen manapura venduggal unggal yellorukum.
Munneri vanggel. Unggalage mudiyum!
Valge Malaysiya Indiya Tamil Makkal.
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MP: I think it was traded for more deputy minister posts. remember reading it somewhere.
Dear fellow indians,
If my history is good, i thk we have two indian ministers at the begining, but how come now we have one and only Datuk S ( looks like he will never step down unless his son velpari take over)
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Oops!! Missed out this…
HINDRAF valgha ! HINDRAF valgha !
Thumbs up to HINDRAF lawyers …
You guys have done a gr8 job …
May god protect you’ll alwayz !!!
I hope all indian will unite for the sake of our next generation … PLEASE!!!!
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MP: i think the folks are thinking logically. why join something that has not shown results befitting it? better one support something that seem to give hope, right?
I view HINDRAF as a complementing function. without them, MIC will still be a slow, lumbering, relaxed entity going on autodrive. but now, it is forced into hyperdrive (or damage control) and use HINDRAF as an excuse to get more from the govt.
Hey, maybe Hindraf was set up by MIC themselves! It would be a master stroke. create an enemy and then ask for reinforcement to win back the community.
i agree they should be proactive and start processed to register temples.
Think more logically folks…HINDRAF is just using the Indian community’s feeling for political purposes. If you want to help Indians, please join with all Indian organizations like MIC, MHS, YSS and others and show an united front to the others.
If they really want to help Indians, they should do some CONCRETE and not carry out some silly stunts like some Tamil movies.
To be frank I don’t trust these fellows. If they want temples not to be demolished then be PRO-ACTIVE and not just be some heroes and create a scene when the bulldozers come to demolish the illegal temples.
The population of Indians is small (7%) so we must remain united. Don’t carry out stunts like the trillion dollar suits and other serial like dramas that will do nothing to help us.
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I support HINDRAF FULLY !!!!!
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hindraf seems to the way out and up for malaysian indians…..may god bless the chiefs of hindraf with strength and resilience to uphold the indian community and make a future for all of us
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Dear mahaguru58,
i agree with your comments about hindraf’s role. probably HINDRAF have their own plans. start with temple and progress to other issues. one thing for sure, they are the hottest topic in the indian community as of today.
the street demo/memo handing over thing won’t last for long.
i think the indian man on the street support hindraf more for the inefficiencies and failure of MIC as compared to fighting for rights. they may look at Hindraf as an alternative (viable one). As long as it is not “hangat - hangat tahi ayam”, the community may support them.
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MP: I think you have been watching too many movies! Any path that leads to violence will only end up as failure, either in short or long term.
HINDRAF have been wake up the anniyan in my mind!!! wait and c what is the anniyan r going to do…..its not a joke ….i am serious on this matter…10 anniyan’s r get brutal training for war!!! ….if they break the indian temple’s there r going to answer the anniyan’s..if not
!!!!!GARUDA PURNANAM!!!!!!
THIS IS BIG WARNING FOR WHO R BREAKING THE TEMPLE
its not a joke
its serious……10 KALIYUGA KADAVAL ARE TAKEING AVATHARAM for…SURASAMHARAM……..pls for this messagge to all indian and mainly for HINDRAF MEMBER!!!! DONT WORRY DASAVATAHRAM IS GOING TO SAVE MALAYSIAN INDIAN
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Me and my family support Hindraf 100%.
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Me and my family over 50 of us fully support HINDRAF…..Our vote is for HINDRAF….Vazhga INDIANS……
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hopefully n pray to god tat hindraf will achieve their target n bring a good fortune to indians in malaysia…..no point 2 blame people v do as v can for our community….jai hind
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Go ahead HINDRAF……udal mannuku……uyir engal
tamiliku…WE are here for u always…to all the indians pls know that this is our rights..n lets hold our hand together…VALGA HINDRAF….WE ARE INDIAN..WE BORN AS INDIAN…WE LIVING AS INDIAN..N WE DIE AS INDIAN……THE GREAT HINDRAF, MAY GOD BLESS U……
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i support Hindraf fully.. we go for it as we deserve the equal rights in MALAYSIA…
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Wake up!!!!!!
Today they are demolishing temples
tomorrow they will demolish our graveyard
then your house
don’t wait until that to happend,
please, this is our time to fight for rights.
DON’T MISS IT OR YOU WILL NEVER GET ANOTHER CHANCE
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Well done Hindraf. For past 50 years we stuggle in many way. Our community leader just a boneka for Barisan Nasional Goverment which lead by UMNO. We Indians are not a migrant or third class people here. We born here. This is our country. This is our motherland. We are also BUMIPUTRA. So we must always keep quit? Let’s fight together with HINDRAF. Se u at K.L on 25 nov 2007.
Valga Tamil Makkal…
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I support Hindraf 200%….
Hindraf Valge!!!
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I’m not Hindu by religion but I am Indian all the same. It is indeed disheartening to see the works of MIC in developing the Indian community in Malaysia. They have not been proactively looking into our issues and developing corrective action plans in any way. When an Indian in Malaysia is having a problem, they have no where to go. Whereas the Chinese have MCA and the Malays have everything else.
Samy Vellu should step down and allow the younger, braver, smarter generation to lead the Indians. Samy is so afraid of voicing out the facts of our living standards cos he is so obviously afraid of losing his position. But what is there to his position when there is nothing that he has done for us to be proud of?!
We have nothing to claim in Malaysia as benefits of being an Indian as there is too much corruption within MIC and we are paying the price for it.
THANK GOD FOR HINDRAF!
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The problem with our local indians is, all of us have the famous “Short-Term-Memory” issue. Our schools are gets closed, not getting any seats at any local university, were forgotten in NEP, temples are demolished etc.. Whatever happens most of us ended up voting for them again. Maybe a week before the election, somebody must remind our people on what happen during the last 5 years.
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Why are we missing the REAL point here ? The issue is not demolishing temples but illegal temples.
It is not like we don’t have temples to pray, in fact we have more than enough temples to pray.There are more Hindu temples than mosques in the country.
Let’s solve the real issues and don’t encourage illegal and anti-social behaviour. This is not India but Malaysia. And even in India temples are being torn down daily for breaking law.
Wake up Indians….
If you really want to contribute, then stop Hindus from building more illegal temples.We DON”T need more temples but better schools and education.
MP : HINDRAF giving hope ? Hope for what ? That Indian community is a criminal and lawless society ? Have you seen the SMS and emails ? Been to their ceramah ? By resorting to confrontation and violence HINDRAF is going to destroy all that we had been working on before. They have no leverage and can get nothing done. It will only harden the position of the govt in regard to the illegal temples.
Do you really think they are trying to resolve the problems ? They are after your vote and not into solving problems. Tell me a single thing they have achieved other than talking and carrying out useless Bolloywood type stunts ? If they are sincere in solving problems then why are they refusing to accept new sites for the illegal temples ?
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I 101% support HINDRAF. We Indian must united and togather fight 4 our rights.
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Valga Hindraf!
My friends and I from up north fully support this struggle. The time has come for us to wake up from this 50-year slumber.
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To MP and killer. U do have a point. The question is why aren’t Chinese temples or other structures demolished. The point is when you go to the bank for a loan, you get denied because u are not a Bumiputera. (Try Maybank). When you take a loan from Bank Rakyat (you pay more interest). Bumi house buyers get a discount even when they are super rich. Just some examples for you and your like-minded friends to note. What kind of government matginalises the minority. There is so much discrimination and prejudice against people of the Indian ethnic origin. These are facts, not something I learnt from Hindraf or any others. All we want is equal rights as citizens of this country, respect so that our children may live in dignity.
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vanakkam. anaittu indiyargalukkaga neengal (HINDRAF) edutta intha muyarchikku engalathu panggu endrum irukkum.
We are with u, to fight for our rights.
valga tamilinam valga tamil moli.
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Those who support, please come this weekend!
Its either now or never.
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MP: Edited to remove violent comments.
hindraf valga,samy olliga.
it is time to stop all the karma,samy vellu is the malaysian indian karma and he is the real ****. we the indians must get to getter and fight for indians rights, samy vellu is blood sucker.we must ***** him soon.his time as been come,to **** this blood sucker.
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Dear Alla,
As a Chinese Malaysian, I have ofen wondered aabout the antics of Samy Velu. The mere mention of his name provokes disgust. He has clung on to power for so long that most non-Indians are of the opinion, that every one is disgusted with his leadership.
The fact that HINDRAF was formed reently and submitted a memorandum to the PM petrified Samy.Withe eleection looming so near, it is clear that Samy’ unthinkable - that there is am alternative to MIC amd Samy’s brand of leadership. A alternative voice fora the Indian communitdy frightens Samy.
Why does’nt he address the issues raised in dddthe memoarandumd. Most nond-Indians are of the view that the Banting and the Semunih forum smacks of the vile deeds of this disgustindg politician.
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come the next elections…we’ll teach the natan buggers a good lesson !!
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Valga Hindraf. Valga Tamil. Please inform all our Indian’s about the 25Th Nov gathers at British emb. bcause alot of indians are still not aware about this. I will inform my friends and relatives. Hope you all do the same. tq.
C U AT BRITISH EMBC.
VALGA TAMIL..VALARGA INDIAN..
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I support Hindraf 100%.. Valga Hindraf .. valga Indian…
Thank you HINDRAF to be there for the Indians.. May god bless you and all the Hindraf members.
I will pray to GOD that hindraf will achieve their GOLD and bring brighter future to indians in malaysia
Valga HINDRAF….
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I support 100%… u r rite.. we have been strugling to live in this country.. n i think the foreign workers especially those Indonesian workers has more rights than us.. a Malaysian just for name with out no rights… MIC is not doing anything… we must do something …
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we should fight for our right’s by studing hard
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My first comment:
We must collect RM100,000 (RM1 per head) on 25/11/2007 peacefull rally…..and donate that money to Samy…. cause he is very poor to reunite his family, that’s why he mumble a lot in today’s star paper, which I felt very sad about, and hope at last he live happy ever after. Tamilannakku thanmaanunthaan mukkiyam….. Panatha paarthaa vaai polakke…. naanga onnum ponam illa… (SAMY ille)
My second comment:
After we win…. 1st Action Samy you step down u old man… we have enough tolerated ur stupid action since 50 years…… so at last we IDIANS personally feel our independence without u…… GET LOST!!!!
VAAZHGA TAMIL…… ALINJIII POH MIC
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MIC = Malaysian Indians are Colonized
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As of this year the immigrant population has exceeded the population Indians.
We are now considered 4th class citizens after the indons and banglas…indons and banglas are considered superior because they are muslims…
the british government has abandoned its baby and left it to become a slave to the ruling party UMNO.
UMNO dishes out the left overs falling from their filled tables for us to pick up..as scraps to which we must say thank you..
If the Queen has a conscience she must act.
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MP: edited due to comments on SV’s family.
As a hindu we should support HINDRAF do not bother MIC they can’t do anything for the community they are playing KATTABOMMAN role in this country. Samy vellu doesn’t know how to manage his own family then how we can expect him to lead the indian community…? look at his ****************. We’re really struggling in this country please do not vote BN anymore lets work together for our rights, they could demolish the temples but they can’t demolish Hinduism Long life HINDRAF we’re in the right direction with the blessing of god.
Inbame soolga ellorum vaalga…..
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MP: Edited due to comment’s on SV’s family.
Samy vellu:saya mahu itu Hindraf kasi saya sikit duit kalau dia orang menang itu kes…saya pun india juga
MIc branch members:Dato kita orang semua pun mahu la duit…..
Samy vellu:u orang saya sudah kasi makan itu Maika punya duit tak ada cukup ka?
MIc branch members:Dato kita orang pun mahu boleh pergi ka 25haribulan november?
Samy vellu:tak boleh!tak boleh!kita orang makan tulang sisa baki barisan nasional…mesti support pak lah…
Mic branch members:Dato jangan ini macam la….
Samy vellu:apa macam u mahu…..?ok saya kasi u orang tengok free itu ************ video…anda-anda mari 25 haribulan dekat pwtc Mic meeting…saya mari bikin open ceromany…
Mic branch members:fuyoo.thank you dato.ini sudah 20 kali kita orang tengok itu video..banyak best valga dato! valga dato…
Samy vellu:ok! ok!..saya punya ********….*********..kasi tahu sama saya…itu hari saya punya anak ************ punya pun saya sudah cover itu kes…
Mic branch members:aiyooo!dato banyak pandai
Samy vellu:itu pasal saya duduk sama kerusi 50 tahun
Note:MIC.baisan nasional,or mca..have rule the country for 50 years……v say that malaysia have
merdeka for 50 years from british…but now v r ruled by this so call penjajah….lets all get together and merdeka our self from this dirty politicians……..
Support Hindraf….100%…..and support hinddu 1000%……….life as hinddu..die as hinddu
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MP : Edited for profanity. KNV, try to be more polite next time.
I support 100% HINDRAF. Samy Velu the time come for U to **** Off from Malaysia. U had make Indian People suffering. Pls ask your self U KNOW THE actual story PLS..PLS…PLS…PLS…GET LOST FROM MALAYSIA
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MP: “discriminate’s HINDRAF(ESPEACIALLY KILLER N MP)” - Me?
LETS STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS ! dont ever bother bout those who discriminate’s HINDRAF(ESPEACIALLY KILLER N MP)..they(HINDRAF) are on a right move,we all know that…so INDIAN’S ! LET’S UNITE.
MIC ! BALIK KAMPUNG TANAM JAGUNG LER………….U R GONNA GET SCREWED ON THIS COMING ELECTION…HAHAHAHA
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MP: Not sure how you think I’m sent by pro samy. maybe you have to reread my blog :). btw, Hindraf did say that they want to get attention of international bodies as a sort of pressure to the govt and open the eyes of the world to the indian community’s plight. that’s why their letters are sent to many international and foreign address. maybe you misunderstood my meaning of “attention” or i did not write well enough. my apologies. what hindraf is doing, is something that makes MIC scared. the hindraf guys are smart. they strategise on all fronts - international, grassroot, and the internet. i respect them for that.
I really hate giving comments on issues that are of extreme subjective, but i think our current problem is objective and very clear. There are no reasons for others to go around the irrelevant justification, to stop some good things from happening…. Maybe killer and mp are the people sent by the pro samy to redirect the community that is becoming aware of their current status…
Hindraf is really doing some thing…. its better that sitting in an air conditioned room…with luxurious look… and with people to guard their bodies (which is paid by us via taxes and all other rubbish reasons to cut the very low salary after hard blood dripping and heart crushing work)…. so that nothing harmful could penetrate their flesh and snatch their souls away… why do u need so many body guards when you meet your own people if you really have the genuine intention of helping the… doing good for the people?
When we work for someone… we work for them and get paid… but these people, i guess they forget that they are working for us. They get paid without our permission… cause i don’t remember voluntarily giving them my money… they got this automatic cutting method… cause they know we wont pay! Why? Cause they din do their work…
And if we don’t work properly, the boss gets someone to type the letter and make sure we are out of his premises… and give the job to someone more compatible… i guess thats wat we are doing now… we don’t need such an incompatible employee.. who is representing us… and we have to retire on certain time for new people to come with fresh ideas irrespective of how creative we were.. so i guess its the perfect time for the great samy’s reign to be put to an end… someone with fresh thinking should enter the frame…
come on guys… i don’t want you to work for me nor do i want you to represent me.. fighting in the all those layers of dewan… just step down.. you are the perfect example for what we call thick skin.
Bollywood stunts work on you… why? You were the one with make ups- a fake hair for your bald head…stiched… first sign of good acting and permanently sealed faults… there is no acces to you filty work….
There is a saying that goes like this…
Diapers and politicians need to be changed frequently, for the same reason.
I believe there a plenty of organisations out there, seemingly fighting for Indian rights… but nothing seem to have improved… thing got from good to bad, bad to worse, and worse to extremely worse… before things get extremely ugly, sometime different seem to begin to happen..
Everyone prefers some action than mere lame promises….
And if they were to form a new party … they have my vote.. no doubt in that..
About tamil movie sentiments and stunts… i think they took the good ones… something has to begin from somewhere… than just sitting back and saying Mr A is wrong and Mr B could have done better… i don’t think i can die for the community, but i can appreciate some good work and give my full support for them… by thinking logically and rationally…
And about too many illegal hindu temples… i think there is a lot of thing that one have to think and consider before talking about it… And registering them.. why didn’t the existing organisations register them earlier… why do they have to show that they exist, when someone else show up and say,†i can do it for you†Where have these existing org been all these days? So, which is politics… fighting for right’s is not a competition of who should do it or who shouldn’t … its a matter of whether you are doing it or not…
And mr killer..
We have been put in a situation where we were have been anti social all these day by various rules and laws.. that shuts us up… “don’t ask question.. just do what is told to do…â€
I guess we have just started to socialise.. that’s why we know too many things… and we are questioning them… cause we learnt that we have the right to ask why, how, for what, for whom etc…
About building better schools and education… i guess u missed the funding issue and how poor the Tamil schools are with extreme inappropriate facilities… and the university intake discrimination… i guess those things will be an issue every time the PMR, SPM and STPM result comes out…hope u check that out the next time!
Once again mr mp,
I don’t think hindraf is giving hope or trying to get the attention of the world…. i strongly believe that they are doing wat was in the mind of most Indian in this country…i could exclude u… but they are our voice and definitely they will have our support and love as their strength…
About their achievement…. i guess they manage to get the attention of the Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth II… that is pretty impressive… not something easy.
At the end of this site, the is the list of people who seem to get the attention:
http://www.policewatchmalaysia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1195120362&archive=&start_from=&ucat=9&
Royal’s dont come down to listen personally from public, unless they consider it of very high importance and serious… cause they have much more important obligations… esp when it is on Sunday…than simply being impressed by Bollwood stunts… i hope its logic..
Hindraf had just started… i guess they will do more for the community…
And people…
Things have started to happen … and you cant turn back halfway… this is a one way road…
Hindraf had started it for us, now we support them till the end…
Whether you support or not, all of us will face the same consequences if they failed… The government and public do not look at things like this : Muthu supported, so we put him in trouble and Maniam did not support, so lets take him with us and give him a better live….
They are going to see it as a whole community… There are only 2 probabilities to this thing; all of get our rights and live happily, or all of us go down with more trouble…
It looks like, whatever thats gonna happen… all Indians in this country would experience the same impact… so, practically thinking… we better do some it together, and face it together….
I hope u pray hard they succeed…
At least, if you don’t gain financially, you still get the world to know how your parents and grandparents had to struggles in this country for the past 50 years… and your grandchildren could plan something better…
Support the well being and rights of Indians in this country…
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MP: i agree that malay houses were demolished as well. the surau was given time to clear. while temple demolition was an act of provocation, WITHOUT notice. that’s the difference.
NEP is one of the main reason. due to NEP, imbalanced distribution happened. not all chinese are rich (i quote MCA chief). yet, they have strong economic power and and are able to sustain that for the last 30-40 years. for the rest of the poorer section, there’s no proper help or only selective assistance based on color.
are you referring to tengku kelana, jln dato hamzah, etc. just few roads in klang, a district with population of nearly 90K? how about the rest of klang? or try shah alam.
everytime talk about indian success, only AK is mentioned. i think his success makes the data skewed. there are also few others like tony, kasi, etc.
i think those supporting hindraf have realised other avenues have failed. MHS are now only trying to stop temple demolishments by negotiations. their press releases are not even given a second look by anyone. does Chamber of Commerce fight for tamil schools and social development or more chances to be given in projects? how seriously are they taken? there’s many more EWRF, bell club, JIBA, Tamil foundation etc. if any of the organisations can come forward and publish their achievements/contributions, then it is possible to evaluate.
actually, as a malaysian indian, some of hindraf’s allegations are quite baseless…they claimed that the authorities demolished the hindu temple and indian squatter houses and left the malay houses alone, which is not true…go to mkini and you can see videos of the poor malay souls who saw their homes crumble in front of their eyes. Moreover, a surau was demolished too. The 1 million compensation for every Indian is over ambitious, and I do not like the idea of Hindraf making it into a racial issue by asking the PM to abolish the NEP. Of course, the NEP has its flaws, but it is true that the Indians are backward due to the NEP, why are there still Malays in similar plight? Instead of being progressive like the Chinese (they are non-Bumis too) Indians and Malays have to find a way out of this. The economic pie is shared among the races, where the non-Bumis enjoy a lion’s share of the cake. If the NEP is truly a deterrent, drive along Klang and see Indian businesses and beautiful bungalows flourishing. If the NEP was the sole reason for the Indians’ lacklustre image, there would be no Ananda Krishnan, one of Msia’s richest men. Think about it - the Indians need to move on from self pity and organizations like Hindraf should EDUCATE these people so that they can achieve success. There are numerous Indian organizations like the Hindu Sangam and Indian Chamber of Commerce. So before you say we do not have anything, at least explore all avenues first before taking drastic measures. God bless!
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Vaalga HINDRAF…Do our part right now with HINDRAF
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Yen Iniye Indian Makkale…….open your eyes,release all your emotional feelings and be brave to stand strong and unite as an M’sian Indian. Be proud there are still some people who care and concerns our existance in this country. Look back what the nattans has done to our Indian communities…where do we stand today…….? Do other races acknowledge our existance in this country…? Let’s teach them the lesson………lets show to people who we are……challenge our stausquo……lets stand together to achieve our end in mind…….our goal….our rights….
My recognition to the HINDRAF initiatives who brave enough to do something out of box thinking by Going to British Comm in England to fight for the plights of our indian makkal in M’sia. HINDRAF Team!Remember…..proceed and come with joyous victorious! victory is belongs to U! Whatever it is….my full support will always be there….
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gram:
It is true that a certain segment of the Muslim community suffers the same fate as the Indians. I have personally seen the Malay squatter area in Tmn. Paramount, PJ being demolished sometime in 1996/1997. But what I feel the fight here is not just about the demolishing of temples/houses. It is about the discrimination we have been put through.
Like Anzkhayeekha said, we have the smallest portion of the cake when it comes to passing marks in major exams, entrance into universities, government subsidised loans, etc. WHY?
Just so you know, I am not making this up to garner pity for the Indian community. I have an aunt who is a teacher and she marks SPM papers. Teachers have been give strict instructions to segregate the answer sheets according to the religion of the student. Doesn’t it make you wonder why? An example: for Add Math in SPM, passing mark for a Muslim is only 10%, for the non-Muslims is 25%. How many Muslims you know who failed Agama Islam in SPM? They don’t. As per my Muslim friends, the paper is actually very easy. They get an A1 and during times when aggregates mattered, it was easier to obtain a Grade 1!
I did Form 6 for a bit and there was a Chinese classmate of mine with 10A’s. His request for a government loan was rejected. He eventually applied for a seat in a private college and guess what? The college gave him a 100% scholarship.
So where is the fairness and equality here? The student quota for a local university has been dominated by the Muslims and once again, the Indians have the lowest share.
Speaking of Ananda Krishna, he is one of the greater Indians in Malaysia who has achieved a lot. But surely there would have been some inclusion of Muslims in his bids to put his businesses out in the open. Who are we to tell? Another friend of mine has just decided to open a small business but he cannot apply for the government subsidized funds for SME’s unless he has a Muslim “shareholderâ€.
Now, if you would like to compare the difference between the Chinese and the Indians, I have my thoughts on it too.
Have you looked up on the history of Chinese and Indian migration to Malaya? Please refer to:
1. http://www.indianmalaysian.com/new_millennium.htm and
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Malay_nationalism
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Indian - Large scale migration, Occupational divisions & Geographic distribution
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ill-treatment_of_Indians_in_Malaysia
Now, having read all that, you could question how is it that the Chinese have achieved what they have and not the Indians. Well, have you seen the how active MCA is when a complaint about a certain issue is brought to their attention? Just for a second, imagine if you had to go to MIC. That would be life’s biggest joke right?
Here you are going on about the Hindu Sangam and Indian Chamber of Commerce. So what have they done for you? Do we need to go running to them before they realize that we are being treated as the “Underclass� Don’t they already know or are they blind? So what if HINDRAF takes this up themselves? Would you spend thousands from your pocket to help the community? I highly doubt it. MIC would not do it either. So we are left dry with no where to turn to. Hmmm… any other avenues open for us to seek some amount of fairness instead of dwelling in “self pity�
Oh, let us not forget, Ms. Revathi Masoosai @ Siti Fatimah. Have you read the articles on her struggle? Guess who have been championing her rights? The CHINESE! Where is your Hindu Sangam, Indian Chamber of Commerce, and bla bla bla?
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Why Indians still not as progressive as the Chinese can be seen from the comments posted here.
Hitler declared, “We think with our blood” and we all know what happened to him and his Third Reich….
There is too much emotion and very little thinking involved in our Indian society.
No need to speculate or accuse me being a MIC person (fyi I am not even a member). I am an Indian who made it from the poor estate to a management position in a MNC without any political connection or help.
Don’t talk about 50 years of suffering. Think back 50 years ago…most of us were still in estates and living in abject poverty. And look around now, most of us are in a decent situation economically (may be not rich but quite comfortable nevertheless). If you show me one Indian who lives below poverty line and I will show you that the fault is his/her by being lazy. I can’t understand why a Bangla or Indon who is an immigrant can own house and bangalows but we Indians keep harping about a lack of opportunities.
You think MIC never help ? Hello think again. Without MIC we will be still in rubber/palm oil estates. How many Indian can get into a public U on pure merit ? No way we can beat the Chinese on academic results and if not for Samy, we will still be tapping rubber as his constant fight helped us gain U places with special Indian quota.
You think Samy sold out ? Think again. There is no Indian in Malaysian history who is as dedicated and determined as him and rendered more service to the community. Indians have benefitted so much because of his stature as senior minister. How many Malay ministers can stand with him in terms of seniority ? Only PM,DPM and another one or two.
You think HINDRAF can help ? Do you know the leaders’ history ? You think the Malaysian govt will ever negotiate with HINDRAF ? They will NOT. All this stupid demo is going to harden the govt position. If things go out of control, forget about ever getting any help from the govt. We are already being viewed as a criminal community and these actions will only re-inforce it.
You talk about freedom of religion ? You mean you don’t have it ? Please tell me where in Malaysia Hindus don’t have a temple. In fact we have far too many temples in Malaysia. The temple demolition is a legal issue as the ones demolished are ILLEGAL, each and everyone of them. Don’t get misled by HINDRAF, there NO legal temples have been torn down.
Malaysia is the only country outside India to have so many temples and Tamil school and a vibrant Indian culture. And we are far better off than the Indians in India.
My appeal is DON’T destroy the things that our forefathers and Samy Vellu build thru sweat and blood in the last 50 years by some idiotic action that led by HINDRAF.
And this suit against the British govt has 0% chance of success.All the talk about Reid Commision are lies, you can find out if you do some simple research yourself.
There are problems facing us and I don’t think we are in a situation where we are unable to talk further. I believe the present govt is a lot more open and willing to listen to our grouses. Don’t do something silly and bite the hand that feeds.
If something bad happens, the generation of Indians to come will blame HINDRAF and us for that. The future of Indian community is our hands, don’t destroy it your anger.
Think, think and think.
Remember, we are only 7%, and there is no way we can succeed with violence. Look at the Sri Lankan Tamils, you want to be like them ? That’s what will happen to us if we choose to fight. Anyway to be fair to the Sri Lankan Tamils, they were oppressed unlike us who is enjoying much economic health and social/religious freedom. But the point is if you choose to use force against a much larger majority, you can’t win.Even if you don’t lose, you will destroy the generation.
And my last advice is, for those people who think we have gotten worse in the last 50 years, please apply for PR in Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh or India. and good luck.
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MP : I suppose you got nothing better to say. whatever…
Aiyaaa machans ,,, why all this rallying lah ,, lets just go get mabuk and settle this .
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MP: edited due to profanity.
i’m not here to support anyone. but i think politics are same everywhere. what will happen if d.a.p took over? the same bloody things chinese will do to us, if p.a.s… no need to say lah. will be more worst. if indian take over! will it be like in india.
so what i’m trying to say is, just pray to god ( if there is one ).
and stop being fooled by oppsition party cause that ******* will do the same thing when they got the power.and one more thing. if indian are the majority in malaysia and malays become the minority, u think we will be fair to them. if yes , i say bull shit.
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Hello you all
banyak banyak bising kat website \ tapi have you all registered as voters yet?
No use bising kat sini, only way is bising kat poll station lagi bagus
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EXCUSE MR SAMY,
WE ARE NOT GOING TO BRITISH EMBASSY FOR $$$,
WE ARE GOING FOR OUR RIGHTS, MIND IT !!!
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im give my 100% support to hindraft,all comunity in this country should be give the equal rites,it has been 50 years of merdeka now,all races should be known as malaysian,not melayu,india,and cina anymore,we do not belong to india or china,dis is our tanah air,descrimination among races should be stopped
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hindraf should protest against our mic leaders first,our leaders r useless,we dont need such useless leaders,he’s(samy)good for nothing,wats da point being a leader for donkey years but never achive anything rather than bringing the indian comunity down,the indian comunity deserve a better leader,hindraf should really question the mic leader first before the goverment it self,there aint unity among da leaders,we should get our base cleaned first,im not being harsh but i think our datuk should seriously take up BM TUTION.
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I think we’re not asking special privileges as what the malays are earning today and we are not asking equal rights we want democracy….it’s not possible to beat BN in up coming election of course no way but we could reduce the 2/3 majority and show the goverment that we are aware of the injustice againts minorities. Please don’t hope MIC as well they can’t protect us they are dummies in Pak la’s cabinet do you remember what happened to YB Sothinathan ( Teluk Kemang MP )you’ll be sacked if you voice out. The worst part, the previous UMNO AGM was held during Deepavali period why…we are far away in term of population so they don’t bother MIC. Today every indians talking about “HINDRAF” and they realized the situation for me this is a very big victory for HINDRAF… nothing is impossible go ahead…long life HINDRAF….Inbame soolga ellorum vaalga……
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Dear Sir ( HINDRAF )WELL DONE…
Hundraf really done greet job. First Of all Datuk S Pls step down then only all Indian get live this Malaysia with peach and harmony.He one eating people money ( Maika Holding ) NOT THAT ONLY STILL GOT LOT OF PEOPLE MONEY HE AND KUNJU-KUNJU EATING.Not he only all the MIC head *********..After Dato KV5 open mouth all the Mic head doing lit bit to Tamil school. For that also Datuk Botok and kunju-kunju Headed now HUNDARF. Pls every INDIAN must Pray for Hundafr be success. Then defiantly Datuk S will be resign from MIC.. If he never step down may be he the one don’t abt the shame he the one *********. All MIC head pls remind and pls stop talking abt HUNDRAF. Let them doing working. Don’t distep them….SYABAS HUNDURAF ALL THE TRUE INDIAN SUPPORT FOR SUPPORT FOR THEM…
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Dear Lovely indian
Pls don’t vote for UMNO.
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MP: edited. Pls be a bit polite.
Dear Killer
What u talking like ******. WHAT MIC AND OTHERS INDIAN PARTY DOING FOR INDIAN. ONLY GIVE WHO EVER HAVE MONEY. ONLY GIVE WHO EVER HAVE RELETIVE WITH HEAD OF MIC.. I THINKING U ALSO GET SOMETHING FROM MIC IS’T..BUT FOR ME AND OTHERS SUPPOTER HUNDRAF NEVER GET ANYTHING.NOT ALL THE INDIAN GET EVERYTHING FROM GOV AND MIC.. DON’T TALK ABT UR SELF ONLY HERE.. THINKING ABT PEOPLE IN MALAYSIA WHO EVER NEVER GET ANYTHING.WHO EVER SUFFRING IN THIS MALAYSIA.. CAN PLS SHUT UP JOH….
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we need to unite,network and develope our indian economy.it’s time expose the discriminative and oppresive gov’t policies.the muslim govt have involved their religion into every govt policies.that is why non muslims are being oppressed.even the muslims of different politic parties are also having difficulties with the present gov’t.non muslims cannot follow muslim laws and regulation.it is against the malaysian constitution.muslims cannot force others to follow their religion.we need our own bank and funding.no more spending in other race business where possible.indian business people, do your duty for the tamil school children.create a body or association for tamil school to maintain and improve the schools. no more registering in malay islamic schools.register our children in tamil schools and navigate the direction of our tamil schools.we take responsiblity for our own tamil schools. malays can never support other religion, race or language.we need our own finance companies,cooperatives and especially our cooperative pawn shops.with cooperative pawn shops we will be the owner of the pawn shop and enjoy the profits.don’t let the tamils here end up like sri lanka!
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well done HINDRAF for ur action taken so far and v will always support u in anyway. well mr killer, from wat u have voice out, its clear that u r selfish indian citizen and u prefer to be slaves and treated like a dog forever when u say that :” WE SHOULD NOT BITE THE HAND THAT FEED US: that might be ur own concept, but not our indian peoples.Who r they to feed us? v r malaysia citizen too, well about ur statement that all action taken by hindraf is not true, i think u should buy 22/11/07 newspaper n read it.eventhough the gathering is said not permitted, its says that all these action been taken.I m really happy n glad finally somebody have bring out what had been in our society mind for decades.n for those indian who feel like they have enough in life n wealthy, n think this issue will shaken their life, just keep quiet n watch.
good luck hindraf n may god bless u all always n protect u cause there ARE not much people like u guys.
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We are group of team here support 300% on HINDRAF effort to represent overall indians in malaysia . They are right leader for us . Good job HINDRAF
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I’ve been reading postings from almost everyone here. Needless to say that most of them are now brave enough to voice out their opinions compared to few year back!
After hearing your share of views, It is only fair if you guyz get the chance to know what is happening in the Local-Uni’z!
Some of you are claiming that Local-Uni entrants are based on merit… Please enlighten me how can students (Other races [*U should be able to guess which]) are not able to communicate using English? Maybe this was a distinct case! Nevertheless, compare the loan,scholarships,postings in various association and clubs which are merely race oriented?
Even a loan@scholarship fund, named after a minister who is MOST mentioned here which was intended for helping out indians are not being distributed at ALL! reasons given? (There is no policies aligned to follow to enable the administration to allocate that loan@scholarship for Indian students). (Remarks : I let you to decide whthr this is called discrimination or not)
Most of the things that are happening in Universities are being covered up using the AUKU (Akta Universiti dan Kolej Universiti). Only we in the uni’z know the kind of discrimination that we are facing here. (But still.. there are also students who are left out (Blurred) of whats happening around them - as how one of you guys mentioned on earlier replies).
Please guys, my request is only one, enough of all this political $hits. If sumthing is intended for the future sake of fellow indians, it should be implemented in full force. Support HINDRAF, atleast we MIGHT have an itsy bitsy chance to get a brighter future. If we are to keep quite as we have ALWAYS been, our future is definitely getting gloomier!
For all those out there, don’t be selfish thinking only about yourselves.. try to look at the bigger picture.. think abt the future of your family,… your sons and daughters…
As it is that obvious that there is only two possible outcome of the 25th Nov 2007 gathering;
1. To Get A Better Future
2. To Get A ‘Aapu’ Future
we will have to decide!
If the outcome is No. 1, everyone will be happy, but if if is No. 2, let us face together knowing that all others in Malaysia and the world knows the power of Indians in Malaysia and that we indians will fight for our rights, no matter how thin the chances of winning any sort of war we are going to indulge in!
Peace to Indians in Malaysia.
Regards,
070330
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MP: edited.
dato samy….u sudah tua.pegi tido je ler.u sudah sampai hajat utk pegi..paham!!!jahanam kau…u r blady killers 4 young youth leaders lar matcha.dun tink tz time u can escape…u cnt da matcha samy velo dei!wht..u tangeran natanz ballz ait…jz mark tz.no body will help,even god will tink twice 2 help u ***********!
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V SHUD NT SUPPORT MIC.MIC IS SUX..SAME GOES 2 BN THOU.TZ TIME VOTE BELONGS 2 HINDRAF!MR.MURTHI U R DOIN D BEZ 4 INDIANS.BT SUM INDIANZ STILL TYPICAL MINDSET.SO..DUN CR BOUT IT.V WILL BE DR 4 OUR INDIANS.MALAYS R SUCH PORTION MATTERS 4 US..V HV STRENGHT 2 DESTROY EM.PAK LA…U SUDAH KESUNTUKAN MASA.SAMY VELLO….U R CHEATER.TZ TIME U WILL NOE.THANX BUDDIES.TC.CHEERZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Dear lovely Makkallzzz ….
Pls don’t use word only we are support..pls attn on 25/11 british embassy jln ampang k.l at 9.am..
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Dear Readers,
This is a copy of a comment which i have posted on
http://mahaguru58.blogspot.com/2007/08/samy-vellu-says-hindrafs-allegations.html
Please do read it and justify the content of the comment whether what i have said is right or wrong ?
And for those guys like “MP”, rajkumar and “Killer” May Peace be with you. God bless you guys.
And specially for Uncle Sam. I think you really need to give an explaination for all the mess which is going on regarding issues related to the indian community and best of luck for your Sungai Siput MP seat for the next GE.God bless you and your family too.
May peace be with you Brother Mahaguru,
I’m just curious with your explaination here regarding your commment on
“Maybe you have yet to hear of Ananda Krishnan,one of the filthy rich Malaysian billionaires, who owns and runs ASTRO, MAXIS, MEASAT,etc?
Eversendai Corporation, a Malaysian Indian owned Construction giant who built the Burj al Arab in Dubai and are among the largest Malaysian builders and construction companies out there in the Middle East?”
I totally agree with you that there are many malaysia indians who have made millions or maybe billions of dollars fortune. But my question is
did this malaysian indians made their fortune here in their own motherland or they had to go out of the country to build their empire. Tan Sri Ananda Krishna, Datuk A.K. Nathan (Eversendai Corporation), Datuk Vijay Eswaran (Managing Director of QI LTD, based in HK) are all successful malaysian indian businessman who made their fortune out of their own motherland.
All this businessman i have stated above , i can be even more specific to Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan and Datuk Vijay Eswaran who has played a bigger role in the international corporate world have brought the fortune they have made from abroad to develop and enrich their own motherland.
Both this corporate figures have founded their very own Foundation which helps malaysian regardless of race or religion in terms of study loans, scholarships etc.
Can you explain to me why all this corporate figures who are captains of big corporation have to go out of Malaysia to actually start their business and make their fortune at the first place ? And then once they have made their fortune they come back and do something for their own motherland.
You advocated that indians have been given a lots of opportunity who have not grasped the opportunity to improve themselves and after failing to make the best of their youth and blew the various opportunities that came their way ? If so why is that many educated indian professionals leaving malaysia and going abroad to build their career ?
If there is opportunity for the youths to study at local higher learning institution why is that just less then 10% place given at the first place ?
Come on la boss.The core of all problem is obvious marginalisation and the indians are not being given their rights. There are still many talents who i won’t be suprise can even create nuclear weapons or even next generation fuel out there which is working day and night so hard and they have never seen the light of opportunity. do we have the rights to show our talents and opportunity in our own motherland ? If there is how many of them has showed their talents here in our own beloved motherland. I’m sure you can count them.
Firstly, we need our rights as the citizen, then only we can help educate our community and help them develop.Even if we help our own community right now ? Do you think the government will be sitting quietly there and say let the fellow indians help their community
to develop themselves and prosper.You may say i’m narrow minded by saying so, but that is the true fact not only you or any other malaysian can deny.
Lets look at Singapore. Singapore’s majority population is Chinese. There are indians and malays living there. Are they being ripped of their rights or being marginalised. Opportunity is given to every citizen. Its up to them to choose and do what is best for them. Does it work the same way here in Malaysia ?
Lets again talk about corporate ethics, both indians and the chinese who work day and night to build their business empire. Why is there such law in malaysia that says there should be a bumiputera partner in multinational or public listed corporation although he or she might not sweat to make the company expand ?
Will you be calling me racist because i highlighted that it is a must to have a bumiputera partner to do business in malaysia ?
You may say that all the above mention argument is not related to the topic being discussed here.
But everyone of us need to understand just one thing here, only when a citizen have his or her rights and not being marginalised. Then he or she can lead a better life and the generation to come will have a much safe and better environment to live and grow.
It is easy for anyone to say lets not point fingers at others, but the circumstances is the cause for us to point the fingers is the true fact.
Whether HINDRAF might have other agenda for what it is doing should not be made an issue now,the truth everyone needs to understand is they are advocating for the rights of the people who has been ripped of their rights and being marginalised.
Terima Kasihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……
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well i really wanna attend the assembly but really unhappy with our police force … They’re capable of doing anything !!!!
Any advice ….
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Gandi (a lawyer) started Ahimsa way to win indipendence for India. Today Hindraf ( 5 lawyer) can make wonders. Let us follow the same Ahimsa way to win. Together we always CAN.
Hindraf should stay as NGO for our community wellbeing. We don’t need any stupid political / family party to represent us (Indians). HINDRAF is enough. Vaalga Manita Neeyam.
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