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Olai Chudi report in NST

August 20th, 2007
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Spot Light: Leafing through your life

SUGANTHI SUPARMANIAM

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Vatta Ezhuthu can tell one's past, present and future.
Vatta Ezhuthu can tell one’s past, present and future.

It is an ancient system of prediction, written on palmyra leaves. Previously known only to a select group of people, the naadi astrology of India is growing in popularity. It has even been featured in documentaries, including on Discovery Channel. SUGANTHI SUPARMANIAM turns over the leaves

T. Ramesh (left) reading a script for Shanmugam. On Shanmugam's right is his daughter Praba.
T. Ramesh (left) reading a script for Shanmugam. On Shanmugam’s right is his daughter Praba.

Sivapalan Govindasamy says the readings are accurate but cautions against wrong interpretations by astrologers
Sivapalan Govindasamy says the readings are accurate but cautions against wrong interpretations by astrologers

KUALA LUMPUR: A. Shanmugam sat transfixed. The naadi astrologer had just read out his name and those of his parents and siblings.

"I was astonished. Reading the naadi olai (dried palmyra leaves), he could even tell that my mother had two names," said the technician.

Recalling the first time he had gone to see a naadi astrologer in 2002, Shanmugam said the astrologer took his thumbprint and checked it against several bundles of olai.

"I was told to say only yes or no as he read from the olai. He asked if my name started with ‘Pa’ or ‘Re’ or ‘Mu’. When he said ‘Sha’, I said yes. He asked if my name was Shanmugam.
"He then asked if my parents were named so and so and if I had this number of siblings and if I worked as a technician.

"However, when he came to the name of my wife, he said it was Manogari. My wife’s name is Maheshwari. He then said this was not my olai and asked me to come again in two weeks.

"This time, all the information about me fell into place. But I am amazed that such information about me could be contained in the olai said to have been written by sages ages ago.

"I am also amazed that there could be another man with my name and whose parents and siblings have similar names but who has a wife called Manogari.

"Since then I have seen the naadi astrologer 17 times. I find there is truth in what is said in the olai, at least for me," he added.

Shanmugam is just one of the many people who are consulting naadi astrologers to find out their past, present and future.

After being told by a Chinese friend about the naadi astrologers, Chiew Chee Hoong, 50, from Subang Jaya went to find out.

"My friend told me the readings were accurate. I went to the astrologer, gave him my thumb- print and within minutes he found a script and read out my name," he said.

He added that he was happy with the reading and described it as accurate.

He said he would be performing a special prayer as instructed in the olai.

Businessman Tan Chee Meng, 45, from Rawang said he felt something was missing in his life and decided to consult a naadi astrologer.

"I was shocked with what the astrologer told me. The accuracy of it was scary, he even came up with my ex-wife’s name," he said, adding that the results were immediate as after performing a prayer suggested by the astrologer, business picked up.

The naadi astrologer can tell why someone is leading a happy life or a miserable life. Or what life holds for the future.

Also, he can offer remedial advice.

This ancient Indian art of prediction is said to have been written by sages, called siddhars, thousands of years ago. The predictions were written on olai in Vattu Ezhuthu, a Tamil script, using a sharp, nail-like instrument called ezhuthani.

It can only be deciphered by expert naadi astrologers.

Universiti Malaya lecturer G. Sivapalan, who teaches siddhar philosophy and Indian astrology, said he was a non-believer.

He said he changed his opinion when his sick sister became well after consulting a naadi astrologer in India, who, through the naadi, directed him to meet a doctor in a hospital.

"I had taken my sister to many specialists here and I figured I had nothing to lose so we looked for the doctor.

"We asked around for a doctor with the initials given by the astrologer and found him. True enough, after consulting him, my sister became well," said Sivapalan.

He believes naadi readings are accurate but cautioned against wrong interpretations by the astrologers who read them. Some astrologers, he said, had money on their mind and these people often made mistakes.

Sivapalan added that mistakes could also creep in when astrologers made copies of the olai as each leaf only lasts about 200 years.

He said naadi astrology made its debut in Malaysia in the 1980s and many of these astrologers from India had been coming here ever since.

He said he had written down interpretations made by naadi astrologers for more than 800 people here.

Naadi astrologer R. Sentil Kumar said only certain people were fated to know their past, present and future through the naadi system. He said the naadi also provided ways to reduce the impact of bad karma or overcome obstacles.

"Incurable diseases are cured if they follow the instructions in the naadi. However, the influence of past karma affects a person so badly that sometimes it is written in the olai itself that that person should not be helped with remedial measures," he said, adding that such people had committed atrocities in their previous births.

Sentil said his clients included Malaysians, Singaporeans, Germans and Japanese who came to India to read their olai.

Another astrologer, T. Ramesh, who has been reading olai for more than 16 years, agreed with Sivapalan about misinterpretations of the naadi and added that true readers of the naadi were born, not made.

"Sometimes, people come here with questions and the answers will appear in their naadi," he said.

Ramesh said naadi astrology was different from ordinary astrology as only through naadi could a person know his past karma (actions done in previous lives). He said with this knowledge, a person could better understand his circumstances today.

He has read the olai for more than 20,000 Malaysians.

Brief history

THE naadi inscriptions are said to have been written in India thousands of years ago by sages on olai or dried palmyra leaves, using their yogic intuitive powers.
Over the centuries, the olai were passed on from father to son or master to disciple.
In recent times, many of these bundles of olai were collected and stored in the Saraswati Mahal Library in Tanjore, south India.
When the British came, they are said to have sold off some of these olai to locals, mostly astrologers.
The olai were handed down over the generations.
Young people were given training in how to read the naadi.
It soon became a means of livelihood for many.
The olai are preserved by rubbing them with peacock oil on auspicious occasions.
The main centre of naadi astrology is in and around Vaitheeswarankoil, near Chidambaram, in Tamil Nadu.

How it is read

THE thumbprint of the seeker is taken and is used to identify the seeker’s olai from the numerous manuscripts in the astrologer’s possession.
If the person is lucky, his olai will be with that particular astrologer. If not, he will have to look for it from other astrologers.
Sometimes the olai containing his information might have been lost or destroyed and he will not be able to have his olai read.
Once the astrologer locates the particular bundle, he begins to read from each olai and asks the person a series of questions about his life, to identify the correct olai.
This process can take a few minutes or several hours.
Once the correct olai is located, the astrologer reads from it, describing the person’s life in detail.

The astrologer will also suggest remedial measures for a person to reduce the influence of past karma and enhance the benefit of future activities.

Samy ready to meet HINDRAF to iron out community problems

August 19th, 2007
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Hindraf, said to be aligned to an opposition party?

 
I thought HINDRAF supports BN? At least that's what a few of their banners/posters mentioned.
 

He said of the 523 Tamil schools in the country, 180 are fully-aided schools, while the remaining were partially-aided, of which 66 schools have been rebuilt through government and private funding.

 
523 schools in 2007. How many have been closed down? How many in process of relocation? How many have been rejected when approached for relocation? One school rebuilt via private funding is SJKT North Hammock in Setia Alam, due to estate being redeveloped as housing area. Out of 180 schools, how many were turned to fully-aided schools in the last 10 years? in the last 20 years? When will the rest (343 schools) will be converted to fully-aided? Is there a timeline or plan? Rather than looking at schools as physical infrastructure, they should also look at overall education improvement in the last 50 years in Tamil schools – number of students, dropouts, passing rates, facilities (library,science lab, computers, internet, tables/chairs) available at all 523 schools, student-teacher ratio, promotion and career prospects for teachers etc.
 

“We are going to rebuild another 160 Tamil schools with the help of the government,” he said.

 
What is the time frame for these 160 schools to be rebuilt? 20 years? 50 years?
 

On temples, Samy Vellu said only temples that were built or extended on private land without government approvals were demolished and not hundreds of temples as claimed by Hindraf.

If temple already existed before indepedence, can application be made after building constructed? How many application has been made and rejected so far? What happened to the committee to monitor temple issues under DBKL and Perak govt?

On allegations of mistreatment of estate workers, Samy Vellu said the number of Indian estate workers had dwindled drastically, with only about 20 per cent still engaged in the plantation sector, while the rest have migrated to urban areas. “The MIC has been helping these people to get jobs and houses in towns,” he said, adding that in Kuala Lumpur alone, out of 5,000 squatters, the MIC, with the help of the Kuala Lumpur City Hall, has secured 2,000 units of houses.

 
according to latest statistics, 63% of malaysians are in urban areas – meaning more migration and also transformation of rural areas into urban areas through redevelopment. That's why we have more urban poors now. Did they focus on reskilling these migrating or displaced groups so that can adopt to new environment? Anyway, HINDRAF made comparisons on what other community gets as compensation and what the Indians get as compensation. Everyone get house, but what house and where? And how about the issues where some estate folks don't have IC, marriage certs, and are illiterate?
 
Perhaps the comparisons and facts should be linked with similar statistics of all communities so that we can get a fairer picture?
 
 
 
Samy Vellu ready to meet Hindu NGO to iron out community problems

BERNAMA

KUALA LUMPUR, Sun.:

MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu is willing to meet the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf), a non-governmental organisation, to iron out Indian community issues and unresolved matters.

He said he was ever ready to meet any individual or organisations who were unhappy with the alleged shoddy treatment accorded to the Indians or wanted to resolve the community’s problems.

“I am always ready to listen to their views and explain to them the efforts taken by the government in resolving the woes of the Indian community,” the Works Minister said when asked by reporters if he was willing to meet Hindraf officials.

Hindraf, said to be aligned to an opposition party, submitted an 18-page memorandum to the Prime Minister’s office last Sunday on what it alleged as the marginalisation of the Indians by the government.

It also called for an end to the special privileges given to the Malay community.
While stressing that Hindraf had not approached him for a meeting, Samy Vellu said he was willing to meet them to discuss only matters concerning the Indian community.

Samy Vellu also rebutted some of the allegations made by Hindraf that the government had neglected Tamil schools and demolished hundereds of Hindu temples.

“There is no truth to such thing and I have the figures to substantiate them. Please do not make wild allegations,” he said.

He said of the 523 Tamil schools in the country, 180 are fully-aided schools, while the remaining were partially-aided, of which 66 schools have been rebuilt through government and private funding.

“We are going to rebuild another 160 Tamil schools with the help of the government,” he said.

On temples, Samy Vellu said only temples that were built or extended on private land without government approvals were demolished and not hundreds of temples as claimed by Hindraf.

“There is a limit to accusations. We must have an open mind and see things clearly,” he said, adding that the MIC has sought fresh applications for government grants to build and rebuild more temples.

On allegations of mistreatment of estate workers, Samy Vellu said the number of Indian estate workers had dwindled drastically, with only about 20 per cent still engaged in the plantation sector, while the rest have migrated to urban areas.

“The MIC has been helping these people to get jobs and houses in towns,” he said, adding that in Kuala Lumpur alone, out of 5,000 squatters, the MIC, with the help of the Kuala Lumpur City Hall, has secured 2,000 units of houses.

MIC welcomes Abdullah’s rebuttal to allegations

August 18th, 2007
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KUALA LUMPUR: The MIC has welcomed Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi's rebuttal to allegations that the Government had failed to help the Indian community. 

Its president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said the party thanked Abdullah for giving the true picture that Barisan Nasional had always assisted the Indian community to advance economically and socially. 

Abdullah had on Thursday expressed disappointment that there were groups still claiming that the Indian community was 50 years behind the others, despite continuous efforts by the Government to address its needs. 

He was commenting on a memorandum submitted by a group saying that the Government had failed to help the Indian community. 

Samy Vellu, who is also the Works Minister, said any fair-minded person could acknowledge the many achievements of the Indian community in economics, religion, education and social aspects. 

“Thousands of temples were constructed or rebuilt, all with the help of the Barisan government.  

“Thousands of Indian students have also undergone and are undergoing tertiary education in public and private universities while the MIC alone has created 32,000 semi-professionals through its TAFE College in Seremban,” he added.  

Samy Vellu said the MIC would safeguard the legitimate rights of the Indian community with the continuous support of the people and party members. 

Samy hits back at HINDRAF on memorandum

August 17th, 2007
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finally, something that appeared on mainstream media (the NST) about the memorandum by HINDRAF. Just some hot air and no facts as usual 🙂

Samy Vellu hits back at Hindu Rights Action Force
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PUTRAJAYA, FRI:

MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu today launched a stinging attack against a non-governmental organisation, the Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF), which claimed that the Barisan Nasional (BN) government had done little to address the woes of the Malaysian Indian community over the last 50 years.

“I must state here that if there is anything that affects the Indian community, the MIC will be there to fight it out even when we are partners of the Barisan Nasional. To me, I have never remained idle and I don’t waste time,” Samy Vellu, who is also Works Minister, told Bernama today.

The MIC supremo was asked to comment on a 18-point memorandum by HINDRAF, which was handed to the Prime Minister’s office last Sunday by the organisation’s chairman P. Waytha Moorthy, secretary V.K Regu and its legal adviser P. Uthayakumar.

Apart from stating that the Indian community was marginalised by the BN government, in the memorandum, HINDRAF also wanted an end to special privileges given to Malays. The memorandum also took a dig at Umno asking the largest political party in the country to “stop playing politics” through the “mandore” (supervisor) system by dishing out aid to the Indian community on a piecemeal basis.

Malacca Chettis share their thoughts

August 14th, 2007
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A challenge to keep traditions alive
The Chetti museum is modelled after a traditional Chetti house.
The Chetti museum is modelled after a traditional Chetti house.

IN the small traditional Chetti village in Gajah Berang, half the homes have access to the Internet.

K. Arunasalam does not like his children listening to rock music.
K. Arunasalam does not like his children listening to rock music.

G. Meenachi Govindasamy Naiker Rajah, who lives 3km from the village, hardly misses any Chetti functions.
G. Meenachi Govindasamy Naiker Rajah, who lives 3km from the village, hardly misses any Chetti functions.

It was set up for younger people like Kavindran Pillay, 15, and his cousin Dinesh Pillay, 17.

Education is a big deal among Chetti families today.

In the past, the Chetti community was poor because there was a lack of educational opportunities, said Kavindran’s father K. Arunasalam, who is the village head.

It is a challenge for parents like Arunasalam and his wife K. Vimala Devi to ensure that their children are knowledgeable about their customs and are not influenced by negative modern culture.
"I don’t like to come home and find my children listening to rock music," he said. But it happens.

"As long as I am there, the children know they have to turn it off."

Kavindran likes listening to Tamil hip hop and rock music. He said he would rather listen to Indian music than Western music.

Dinesh feels the same way. Both have Astro at their homes and they watch music television videos of Beyonce, Shakira and Justin Timberlake.

"But I am not really keen on them," said Dinesh.

The teenagers also like traditional music, much to Arunasalam’s delight.

Vimala Devi said she did not mind if they listened to pop or traditional music as long as they finished their homework.

When it comes to football, sometimes Dinesh and Kavindran find that they are the only teenagers among a group of children on the field.

Dinesh has a deep interest in his roots and culture. He is learning more about Chetti traditions, which are not taught in school.

On romance, if a young Chetti couple wants to start dating, the girl will introduce the boy to the parents first. Some parents prefer the couple to be chaperoned during dates.

Many residents in Gajah Berang are concerned that the Chetti culture is not practised as much as before.

"If a Chetti lives in the village, he or she can practise the customs," said Arunasalam. "If not, it will be very hard as there is no community support."

The Chetti museum in the village is a good place to learn about the community.

Amuthavathi Pillay, 41, was at the Chetti museum when a group of tourists dropped by. They asked her to show them around.

"I found myself swelling with pride as I explained the history and Chetti way of life."