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Convert at Seven

November 19th, 2009
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This is a serious allegation indeed. We hope its not true, probably some mix-up, but its not impossible to happen. Converted at an age of seven without the parent or guardian involved. I wonder if the religious department will arrest or fine her for apostasy. Logically shouldn’t be, but you never know… this is after all Bolehland.

From Malaysiakini:

A mother of two claims that she was unwittingly converted to Islam by state religious authorities as a child while at a welfare home in Kepala Batas, Penang.

S Banggarma, whose Muslim name is Siti Hasnah Vangarama Abdullah, said she discovered this when seeking to register her marriage in 2000.

NONEAccording to the housewife, she was converted to Islam in 1989, when she was seven years old. 

Banggarama has sought the help of PKR Kedah Youth deputy chief and lawyer Gooi Hsiao Leung and the party’s Kedah Indian affairs bureau deputy chief R Kumaraguru Naidu.

Prior to getting married to her fisherman husband S Sockalingam, the 27-year-old woman said she had to obtain her MyKad from the National Registration Department (NRD) in Ipoh. 

Her marriage took place in Tanjung Piandang, Perak.

Banggarma had apparently fled from the Rumah Kanak-Kanak Taman Bakti when she was 16 together with several inmates without taking any of her identity documents.

“I was shocked when the NRD officers told me that I’m a Muslim convert by the name of Siti Hasnah. I was issued a MyKad with that name,” she told a press conference at Gooi’s office in Georgetown this afternoon. 

She said due to her Muslim name, she could not register her marriage to Sockalingam, which was conducted according to Hindu rites. She was also unable to register her husband’s name as the father in her children’s birth certificates.

Birth cert states ‘Hindu’

According to Banggarma, after being told about her conversion, she went back to the welfare home to retrieve her identity documents.

NONEAt the home, an officer handed over her birth certificate which stipulated that she was a born Hindu on Aug 13, 1982.

The certificate revealed that she was born in Keratong, Pahang to plantation worker B Subramaniam and Latchumy Ramadu.


The welfare home officer also handed over a certificate disclosing her conversion in 1989.

NONEShe was apparently converted to Islam before a religious officer representing the state Islamic council and department. The document showed her signature ‘Hasnah’ on the left side bottom corner.

However, Banggarma could not recall the incident and claimed that she was living as a Hindu while she was at the welfare home.

“I have always been a practicing Hindu,” she told reporters.

However, she admitted that she had attended Islamic prayer sessions with other inmates. “I supposed I just followed the crowd,” she said.

Due to the conversion, Banggarma had difficulties in registering the birth of her two children – Kanagaraj, eight, and Hisyanthini, two – until last year.

“I finally managed to obtain birth certificates for my Hindu children through legal help. I also tried to change my name back to my original Hindu name in my MyKad twice. But my attempts were unsuccessful,” she said.

Islamic authorities to investigate

Meanwhile, Gooi said he would bring up the issue with the state Islamic authorities to find a solution to end her Banggarma’s predicament.

“We would take the matter to court if we have to,” he said.

Gooi also chided the officers who converted Banggarma for being “irresponsible” and the welfare home for neglecting its duty.

“A welfare home’s primary objective is to take care of the children, not convert them. Only an irresponsible person would have converted a seven-year-old,” he said.

Contacted later, Penang Islamic Religious Affairs Council president Shabudin Yahaya said he would push for an investigation into the case.

“It happened a long time ago. We have to check our past records. It would take time,” he said.

State executive councillor in charge of Islamic affairs Abdul Malik Kassim however declined to comment on the case since it was a legal issue.

‘My husband and kids are all I have’

During the press conference, Banggarma also revealed that she was brought to the welfare home together with two of her elder brothers and a younger sister. 

“I was apparently found sleeping with my siblings on the roadside in Kepala Batas when the welfare officers took us to the home,” she recalled.

NONEHowever, once they were enrolled into the welfare home, the siblings were separated and she never met them again.

Banggarma said her mother died when she was very young and her father had abandoned her and her siblings soon after.

She said her father had visited her at the welfare home only once when she 13.

Banggarma added that she had three more older siblings who went missing before she was placed in the welfare home.

“My husband and my children are all I have. They are the world to me,” she said.

Crematorium in Puchong

November 9th, 2009
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Interesting to note that MPSJ’s budget for 2010 includes RM350,000 for a crematorioum in Puchong:

“The council has included in its 2010 budget a RM350,000 allocation to build a crematorium in Puchong.”

Shah Alam temple photos, moratorium idea and temple building

October 26th, 2009
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MalaysianIndian1 Blog has some pictures of the said altar/shrine/temple before it was demolished, while Human Rights Party website has the scanned photos from newspapers post-demolishment.

Looking at the photos, I noticed the deities seem to resemble those found in Chinese places of worship.

So, is a proper religious site or used for obtaining 4D numbers as claimed by MBSA? Does it really matter? Its on government land, so they have right to demolish structure.  But is this considered temple, shrine or altar?

Very confusing. Anyway, MIC Youth wing advisor Vell Paari opined that a moratorium is placed on all Hindu temple demolitions until an amicable solution is reached on the status of these temples in the country. He said a  3 to 5 year period is needed for a “all-party” committee include stakeholders from state governments, political parties, civil societies, religious bodies, and temples,  to establish proper guidelines on Hindu temples. He further mentioned that till a proper guideline enforced with political will is established, temple demolishment issues will be used by political parties as part of the blame game, and the worshippers are the ones who suffer in the end.

I think it comes back to the culture. The Indians are known to be temple builders since thousands of years ago. Life practically evolved around temples if one observes cities in India, especially in southern states.  Things have changed a bit in recent years, as more of them embrace modernity. The “educated” tend to spend less time involved in temples but focus more on economic concerns. The rest still depend a lot on divine interception.  An ant hill or tree trunk can be converted into a place of worship easily. The story in Mahabaratham – Eklavya who makes a clay figure of his guru and learns archery by himself, comes to mind. Even in housing areas, there are residents who build an altar at their car porch area and do prayers till wee hours of night.

Asking the Malaysian Indians to not simply built temples everywhere is one of the possible steps, but how about those places already in existence? MHS is doing study on temples at myhindutemples.com for starters. Do we need some sort of committee at national level? Or to be handled by each states accordingly? Would it be proper to establish one under PM Dept or Ministry of Unity, for example?

Is accepting the culture of the Indian community part of 1Malaysia (or whatever)? If we are to accept others as they are, with warts and all, it should be the same the other way around, no?

MBSA says its altar used for 4D prediction

October 23rd, 2009
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My earlier post was about the temple demolishment in Shah Alam, which was highlighted by PKR’s Manikavasagam yesterday and also newspapers today. However, MBSA issued statement (read in Malaysiakini) later today that the demolished structure was an “altar” used by few people to obtain 4D predictions.

Shah Alam Municipal Council (MBSA) deputy mayor, Mokhtar Hani said it was not a temple that was demolished as alleged by MIC, but rather an altar used by punters to obtain lucky numbers, built illegally on government land.

“We demolished an illegal structure, following complaints by the Jabatan Kerjaraya Daerah Petaling Jaya on the Jan 19,” said Mokhtar.

Mokhtar (left) said that the structure was built on government land without permission.

“The alleged Mathurai Veeran Temple is in actual fact an altar for punters to obtain numbers for gambling purposes.

“In fact, the altar was being maintained by these punters,” said Mokhtar.

“MBSA carried an inspection on Feb 16 and found out that there were six structures that was built without permission (of MBSA), and immediately issued a warning notice to the owners concerned to demolish the illegal structures that were put up,” said Mohtar.

Mohtar also said the owner of the structure, Muniandy Kathan, filed an appeal to MBSA to be given a one-month grace period starting from Feb 20 until March 20 this year to relocate the illegal structure, but failed to do so.

Following this, MBSA conducted an inspection on Oct 20 and found that not only had the original structure not been removed, but additions were made to it.

As such, he said, the MBSA had no choice but to demolish the structures on Oct 21 since there was no sign of any action on the part of the owner to relocate the structure all this while.

He said this in response to the statement by MIC president S Samy Vellu yesterday that the council had demolished a Hindu temple.

MBSA councilor Uthayasoorian Kalimuthu meanwhile expressed his disappointment with MIC for having manipulated the issue in an attempt to gain sympathy and support.

“MIC cannot use religion for politics.We do not want MIC to exploit this issue for their ‘survival’,” Uthayasoorian said.

He also said that MBSA takes such allegations, which clearly incites religious sensitivities, seriously.

“We will not hesitate to take further action and also consider lodging a police report if necessary,” said Uthayasoorian (right).

Mokhtar also said there was a temple for Hindu devotees not far away from the demolished altar.

Earlier, Selangor MIC Youth head Shanker Raj Ayanger who visited the demolition site said he would hand over a memorandum to Selangor Menteri Besar Abdul Khalid Ibrahim on Wednesday to protest against the demolition of the structure.

Shanker also said a report was lodged at the Bukit Jelutong police station yesterday over the incident.

There are some photos of the demolished structures scanned from newspapers and hosted at HRP’s website. From the photos, it doesn’t look like a big temple, probably about smaller than a normal terrace house in terms of land area. A small structure with zinc roof, cemented floor, and wooden walls. Anyway, I hope some of the locals or eye witnesses can provide better details.

As for me, regardless of altar or temple, this is still considered a place of worship and must be handled sensitively. Not simply demolish. What’s the point of having a committee and making promises, but later playing with rhetorics? I never found any statement in the above article that mentioned about discussing or informing the non-Muslim religious affair committee about this temple problem. No mention of Malaysian Hindu Sangam as well. So, that means MBSA did not follow procedure? That’s an act of indiscipline and insubordination, no? Perhaps the councillor can verify on this.

Barack Obama wishes Happy Deepavali

October 20th, 2009
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