164 PSD scholarships awarded to Indians

June 15th, 2008 by poobalan | View blog reactions Leave a reply »
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Something fishy. Samy said that number of scholarship awarded to Indians this is year (161) is more than double of last year, but Dato S.Subra said last year it was 120 students. Anyways, it has been clarified that 164 students had been given scholarships, up to Friday noon. Meaning more to come?

Out of the 164, 53 obtained medical seats.

Rather than resting on its laurels, MIC better start a pressure-cum-thinktank group to ensure this problem does not repeat next year. Perhaps they can set-up a clearinghouse or one stop centre for students to submit their application via MIC. As long as it does not create avenues for cronyism or corruption within MIC (wishful thinking?) Obviously the preferred solution will involve revamping PSD’s selection procedure, something quite impossible given the current political scenario.

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38 comments

  1. Thamilan says:

    “One stop centre” to process the applications for the PSD scholarships and leave that with the MIC to process – YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING!

    Thanks to Hindraf and the change in the thinking of the Malaysian Indians and the other races in general they got a big whacking & that have the BN govt agreeing to give out more scholarships ( or is it really true they did – when compared to last years figures?!) SV would without doubt like to claim credit that he makes the difference!

    It is certainly wishful thinking but hopefully one day the Federal Government will provide the exact budget that they have for the year and then list the requirements – academic and otherwise. No one should have to go and beg these rodents in the MIC to fight for their case. All the awards of scholarships should be then published in the media. If Pak Lah is serious about stamping out cryonism he could take but a small step to show that he is serious.

    The BN government had it too good for too long for themselves. There have
    been many instances of scholarships being awarded to those favoured by SV.

    With the way the oil prices are going and the limited resources under the ground in Malaysia it does not look like there will be many scholarships awarded in the years to come and it will be even more difficult for the poor to even dream of getting one of these scholarships.

    Can you imagine the number of students who could have been given a good education with the Petronas billions if they had not been squandered on the many bailouts it was made to in the last 20 years!

  2. Killer says:

    Dear Thamilan

    Why don’t you do some research before commenting ? Are you sure MIC has done nothing to help indians in education or obtain uni places and scholarships ?

    Are you blind to the fact that for decades only MIC had been fighting for Indian students ? Why don’t you “google” and find it out yourself ?

    None of the parties claiming to champion Indians had done anything up to the last GE. In fact your so called heroes from HINDRAF benefitted from MIC himself.

    Do you know how many students MIC had sponsored to study in overseas ?

    And my dear friend, if the govt starts a true meritocracy system for scholarship then we all can kiss goodbye to uni places and scholarship. Do you even know why people go to MIC for help ? It is either they are not qualified on merit or did blunder in their application (intentionally or otherwise). Please read my comments on the other thread.

    • maya says:

      It is either they are not qualified on merit or did blunder in their application (intentionally or otherwise). i would appreciate if u can prove that?

      • Killer says:

        Dear Maya

        Of course I do not have the data to provide to you other than share my personal experience.

        But if you are interested to know the truth, you can contact those people who are familiar with this situation on year after year. People like YSS, MIC Education bureau, SMC,etc.

        I know the standards of Indian students in SPM/STPM and we are still now where near the Chinese. We will lose out if there is a meritocracy system implemented as proven in the last few years. In the last few years I have seen tremendous improvement in the standards of the Malays too. While I am happy for them, but I do not think our students have improved as much and Indian parents’ attitude still stuck in ancient times.

        I am afraid our society is losing its competitiveness by our own mindset.

        • maya says:

          well, u may be rite but the way you write is like all indian students are not qualified to receive scholarship therefore MIC has to be there for them.

  3. yup…MIC did a lot of good thing for Indian. They gave us place in uni, sponsor student to study in oversea and ROB our money under MAIKA Holdings.

    btw…if the TELEKOM shares were really used for Indians( i mean the RM10 billion), im sure that most of parents can sponsor their own children for further studies. I’M RIGHT??

    How sure are that the sponsored students under MIC were the group that really deserved it or they sponsored their “gangs” children like UMNO did by sponsoring Minister’s children to study at oversea

  4. Killer says:

    # borakmanutd.comon 16 Jun 2008 at 1:29 pm

    btw if the TELEKOM shares were really used for Indians( i mean the RM10 billion), im sure that most of parents can sponsor their own children for further studies. I’M RIGHT??

    How sure are that the sponsored students under MIC were the group that really deserved it or they sponsored their “gangs” children like UMNO did by sponsoring Minister’s children to study at overseas.
    ——————————————————————————————–

    Killer : Rm 10 Billion ? I am sure you are joking rite ?

    Killer : Do you know that many of the people in the PKR/DAP also benefitted from this scholarship ? Including the great hero Utaya Kumar himself…

    • mmuurrllyy says:

      helo killer,
      tell us what u know about MAIKA shares?
      i wonder if u dunno anything…

    • Noblepath says:

      MP: edited.

      So what? A party executes it’s responsibilities without fear, favour or any forms of expectations. That includes loyalty. So why make an issue that the oppositions should ******* of the ruling government or component parties of BN?So they received scholarship, so what? They are expected to be loyal? Hey, no body owes anything to the government or any political parties (let it be the oppositions as well).Read my lips, IT IS THE responsibility of any political parties to help people. Itâ??s not a privilege! Get that right first mister!

  5. VJ says:

    firstly i dun agree meritocracy system will ruin chances of Indian students .
    Well , i know many many Indian engineers whom have been denied Uni places . It’s a blunder squash meritocracy system .
    It’s strange someone could be ‘jalra’ to umno’s quota system for Uni and schloarship . You can ask that hisham to implement quota in hell !!
    And regarding the Maika …. Alex Thiagarajan (so far the only brave ball in mic) making his effort to reveal the truth….good luck .
    Seriously we people want the files to be reopen for independant investigation . Hopefully when Pakatan took over . If the dun , we’ll pressure them to do so….

  6. Killer says:

    Dear VJ

    You have speaking with any factual basis. There is no way Indians will be able to compete with Chinese as of now. Unless we change our mindset, soon the Malays will overtake us. Please talk to those familiar with Indian students and their univ intake to know the actual situation.

    Do not allow your hate for UMNO to blind you. Pakatan will implement meritocracy and when this happens, then it will be the end for us. Meritocracy is a system that helps the rich and powerful more than the poor.

    As i said, I believe in a more holistic system. A pure quota system will make Indians uncompetitive just like the Malays under NEP.

  7. Killer says:

    maya reply on June 16, 2008:

    well, u may be rite but the way you write is like all indian students are not qualified to receive scholarship therefore MIC has to be there for them.

    =================================================

    Dear Maya, I did not claim so. What I did say that MIC had been fighting hard to get extra places for Indian students every year, unlike the talkers from PR and HINDRAF.

    Also, if you talk to those people who are familiar with uni student applicants, most of these people have only average results and some of them even below average. Some people think just because they scored 7As they could get a place in the UK for medicine. Unfortunately there are people with 10A1s or even 13A1s and the number of such top students are increasing by year.

    Another of the misconception of Malaysians is that such and such student managed to get places in several foreign univs but not received scholarships. Unlike in Malaysian public univs, most foreign univs are much easier to obtain places. I remember receiving offers from 6 UK universities after getting my degree in UTM several years back.

    However in the matter of quota, i disagree with SV and MIC that we need to have a quota for Indians. I think this is shallow thinking that doesnt look the issue as a Malaysian since we have other races who are worse off.

    What I would like to see a more holistic approach for uni intake and scholarship awards. I basically believe the meritocracy system is very unfair but the quota system also breeds mediocrity. So we need to come up with the system where the poorer and more needy & rural students are given priority (let’s say 30 or 40% of the total intake). Then the rest should be open for merit based competitive system. But again the intake criteria should not be purely academic but also consider other parameters such as non-academic activities as well.

    Currently from what I understand, for the overseas scholarship, the academic result counts 80% of the points while family background, interview results and non-academic activities form the balance 20%.

    I believe it is racist and idiotic of HINDRAF to fight for quotas. What we must do is to help out students to excel and not make things easy for them by giving them a short cut.

    • maya says:

      thanks 4da explanation but with the current NEP which is tailored for the advancement of malays, i agree with SV that we need to have a quota for indians, otherwise we will be begging 4ever. hindraf wouldn’t have existed if the so-called NEP was in favour of all races.
      killer, your remark on Hindraf is too harsh la…

    • heloo Killer
      MIC also fighting for the quotas..there are proof in papers as MIC leader asking more place for Indians for scholarship. It is same as Hindraf demanded.

      • Killer says:

        borakmanutd.com

        I know Samy and MIC had been fighting for it, but I stand by principles. I don’t agree with a fixed quota system.

        In case you guys missing the point, though I have my symphaties for MIC it doesn’t mean I represent them or agree with whatever they do. FYI I am not even a member though some of my family members are. I have my own reasons for not joining them. BTW, I have family members who are DAP and HINDRAF supporters as well…

  8. Killer says:

    mmuurrllyy reply on June 16, 2008:

    helo killer,
    tell us what u know about MAIKA shares?
    i wonder if u dunno anything…

    ===================================================

    dear mmuurrllyy….what does Maika has to do with scholarships and uni places ?

    In any case, I don’t know much about this matter as I am not a MIC member or have Maika shares. But I do have relatives who have these shares.

    However, from what I observe, that the shares lost their values is nothing uncommon if you are familiar with stock market/trust funds operations. Even the best fund manager in the world can lose billions.

    But I thought MIC promised to refund the $$ right ?

  9. sactyr@naga says:

    Dear Killer,

    Lets go over what you said one by one shall we?

    “None of the parties claiming to champion Indians had done anything up to the last GE. In fact your so called heroes from HINDRAF benefitted from MIC himself.”

    There won’t be other parties had MIC at least served half the community. The fact remains that even though MIC has existed for past 51 years (in fact longer but we shall start from 1957 shall we?) there are still Indians who are living below the USD $1 per day mark. If you are going to deny me, then please prove to me showing evidence which suggests otherwise. Second you said that Hindraf leaders benefited from MIC. So you agree with me that Hindraf did what MIC didn’t do and Hindraf wouldn’t have existed had MIC done their homework? But they didn’t, and the fact remains that Hindraf did in a day what MIC couldn’t do in past 51 years.

    Then you said a few things about meritocracy all over the thread.

    LOL do you have any clue what meritocracy is?? Meritocracy means the person with the highest score gets into the university till all the seats are filled up. Which in turn would mean, remember the two girls that Mr. Poobalan wrote about on top, they would walk into any god damn university in Malaysia. With meritocracy, everyone will be encouraged to work harder, coz they know that if they don’t, they won’t get into uni. So this in turn promotes competitiveness, and this could only be good for the country. Right now, all the smart ones are turned away coz some dumb Malay robbed their place and these ones will leave the country (if they are rich). And while we loose all the smart ones to Singapore, Australia etc. (this is called brain drain btw) we will get all the Indonesians and the Bangladeshis coming into the country and given their Malaysian citizenship by UMNO so that UMNO can get votes. (This is really another story now).

    You said we will loose out if we implement meritocracy. Can I ask how? Alright lets say that you are right in this case, don’t you think that you will feel deservedly lost out (coz that someone who got better marks obviously worked harder than you) rather than loosing out just because you are an Indian or a Chinese i.e. skin colour?

    You also said that the Malays are doing better and Chinese will outdo us. Why are you scared when we have girls like above who scores greatly too? Don’t you want the best Indian brains in the country to prove their ability with the rest?

    And you said this too:

    “Meritocracy is a system that helps the rich and powerful more than the poor.”

    You seriously have no idea what’s meritocracy is do you? Your above argument, in fact, is for quota basis. Meritocracy doesn’t ask for skin colour, your parents’ income statement, or which shop you buy your rice from. All it asks is your academic transcripts. So doesn’t matter if you come from a poor family, a rich family, a politician family.. you are still entitled to get a place in uni if and only if you score higher.

    Then you said:

    “Another of the misconception of Malaysians is that such and such student managed to get places in several foreign univs but not received scholarships. Unlike in Malaysian public univs, most foreign univs are much easier to obtain places.”

    OMG you are joking right? Much easier to obtain places? So why didn’t you reject your local uni and chose one of the 6 offers, big shot? I did my bachelors and my masters and currently doing my second masters, all in Australia. And I believe I am fully qualified to tell you that its not walk in the park to get into any foreign university.

    Then you said this:

    “Do you know that many of the people in the PKR/DAP also benefitted from this scholarship ? Including the great hero Utaya Kumar himself…”

    Can you prove this Killer? If you can I will stop supporting the opposition and Hindraf. But can you provide me the evidence?

    Now the juicy part, MAIKA shares. Anyone who wants to know who has the shares, or what happened to them, please download this PDF from here: http://sactyr.googlepages.com/MIC-TheHiddenHistory.pdf

    You will also read in there how Samy Velu back stabbed the community by reducing a 2 Indian minister system to the current one minister system so that no one opposes him. And yes MAIKA scandal is fully covered in there. So Killer, if you are going to deny me anything about the MAIKA shares, then can you kindly tell me (us) where they are and what happened to them? If you don’t then you shouldn’t be blindly supporting a political party should you?

    If you want to contact me, my blog is http://sactyr.blogspot.com

    • poobalan says:

      actually, Uthaya received MIED LOAN (not scholarship) amounting to 12k, and he paid back. He mentioned this during his interview.

      • Killer says:

        Thanks for the correction Poobalan. I am sure we can find dozens of DAP, PKR members and even MPs among the list of people who benefitted from MIC loans and scholarship.

  10. Killer says:

    sactyr@naga

    What a long post….pls allow me to answer your ramblings in little pieces due to my limited time.

    Firstly let me make it very clear that I am neither represent of MIC (though I admit I did join them for social work from time to time as an individual, but I do that with other NGOs too) nor I am a member of that party. Unlike you I am not lucky as I don’t have the luxury of time to spend on blogging about politics and attacking those I don’t like.

    1. The lack of contribution from HINDRAF and others.
    – Yes, I stand by this. I know very well what Uthaya did up to 2007. You can google and discover it yourself. All he did was to make plenty of noise and nothing of substance. In fact at one point of time, he ran away to the UK claiming the police wanted to kill him asking for political asylum. This guy is just a sensation seeker. I am sure if you do some homework yourself, you will discover it yourself. I wrote a letter to Malaysiakini on the origins of Utaya and HINDRAF once but they never did published it. Perhaps people will be surprised but Malaysiakini too practices a form of censorship where damaging letters about the Opp is allowed but limited to a certain % and only those which are mild.

    2. Indians living below US$ 1/ day.
    – This is a joke right ? First of all I didn’t know any Indians are getting paid in US $ !!!
    – Seriously speaking, can you quote where did you get this data from ? Any independent or official sources ? Please don’t refer to some HINDRAF websites as they have zero credibility.

    3. MIC’s economic contribution
    – There are plenty of data available (being a Master’s holder I am sure you can find it yourself but if you can’t I will provide) to show that Indians are the 2nd most weathiest community in Malaysia after the Chinese. Based on your logic this would indicate that MIC has even surpassed UMNO !

    4. HINDRAF’s contribution
    – The only thing they have done is to gather Indians to demo. No doubt it is an achievement but only people with small minds would consider this is as anything meaningful on long term. Demos are happening daily in Malaysia now and any Ahmad, Ah Chong and Uthaya can call for a demo. What is more important is what are the long term and short term actions that can solve the issues we are facing.

    I will continue with the other points may be later in the afternoon.

    • VJ says:

      Killer , anyone can call demo ?? I challenge you to try calling for a demo . To make your life easy you can do it in a stadium . See how many crows turn up . Dare ?

      • Killer says:

        VJ

        You living in another planet, I assume ?

        If I really want to I surely can gather a crowd. It is not too difficult to get a crowd when you exhort them using something emotive like racial or religious issues.

        • VJ says:

          just accept the challenge or quit lar bro ! You always remind me of SV :
          – always in denial mode
          – do much via lip service and less results

          SV said in a Tamil daily (after Nov25) that he could gather 1million if he wants. When he called a gathering at Bkt Jalil how many turned up ? Mostly were merely paid ‘ang-pow’ and party members .
          Religion issues will not attract much Indian attention . I know many whom even deny Gods supporting Hindraf .

          Anyway , do continue your lip service …… we need some entertainment (from you) in midst of daily hectic works……

        • sactyr@naga says:

          Killer, I want to see you do it. Call a crowd at a time and venue of your choice. Since you greatly undermined Hindraf’s ability to pull a crowd, I want to see at least 30,000 crowd, which is how much turned up at Nov 25. You know whats the funny thing is, even though you “seem” to support MIC I doubt they will give you a permit. But go ahead. And I want to see reports on media about your crowd, doesn’t matter if its on MSM or Malaysiakini or blogs or whatever.

    • sactyr@naga says:

      “This guy is just a sensation seeker.”

      LOL, so what about Samy Velu gathering 10,000 people in the Cheras Badminton Hall right after Nov 25, in which Badawi turned up? Wasn’t Samy Velu trying to prove that he too can pull a crowd? At least Hindraf was asking for equal rights for everyone, you and me included. Why did Samy call crowd for? Oh wait, didn’t he pay RM50 per family and provided transport to come? Boy oh boy.

      “Indians living below US$ 1/ day”

      US$ 1 per day is the UN standard of measuring extreme poverty. Its ok if you didn’t this fact. Refer to UN reports and you will get all the data you want.

      “3. MIC’s economic contribution
      – There are plenty of data available (being a Master’s holder I am sure you can find it yourself but if you can’t I will provide) to show that Indians are the 2nd most weathiest community in Malaysia after the Chinese. Based on your logic this would indicate that MIC has even surpassed UMNO !”

      Yes can you please show to me? And no please don’t quote Anandakrishnan ok? He didn’t get anything from MIC so don’t try to distort facts with me. Prove to me it is because of MIC that Indians are the second wealthiest in the country.

      I just don’t understand you. You are talking as if MIC is doing a voluntary NGO. No, they are a political party, which means they *HAVE* to live up to the community’s’ expectations. If they don’t then they will be continuously criticized till the party gets its act together.

  11. Killer says:

    Part 2 :

    1. I just want to make another point. Living below US$1/day means getting about Rm100 / mth. Care to tell me which industry pays that low ?

    2. Meritocracy : I think it is you that rather confused on the definition. The two girls who were highlighted did not get the overseas scholarship and NOT places in the local univs. The competition for the overseas scholarship is very tight especially in this semi-meritocracy system. Due to the high cost the places are limited. That’s is why I am calling for the overseas studies to be discontinued so that more students can benefit.

    3. Uni places : I think we are missing the main point here. What we are discussing here is the public universities. There are many private universities who do not place any restrictions. The main benefit of public univ is the lower cost compared to private one as they heavy subsidised by the govt and not profit orientated. Since public uni are cheap, the priority should be given to the poor and middle class students. They shouldnt practise absolute meritocracy, that’s my argument. The rich and well to do (like yourself) have many other options like private uni, private colleges, A level, American programs, overseas unis,etc. If you go to the private uni, more than 90% will be non-bumis (esp the Chinese). I don’t see much of a problem of the bumis get more places in public unis as they are poorer than others. But I would like to see more Indians and Chinese there and the current system revamped.

    4. Unfair system : It goes without saying that by the virtue of better schools & facilities, books, tuition, exposure the children of the rich and urban parents outdo the rural / semi-urban ones. Just look at the statistics of our exams every year if you don’t believe me. As such a pure meritocracy would be unfair system. Even in the US and the EU, many companies have this policy to support minorities and poorer segment of the society. This is sometimes required by law as they recognise the unfairness of a merit based system. Also many countries have women equality policies (in the west mostly) that requires the ladies to be given certain quota in terms of employment and management positions in business and government. If in the West they practice such system, then why are you saying in Malaysia meritocracy will work when our society is clearly is even more unequal along the ethnic and regional lines.

    5. Foreign unis : Ha ha ha….this is funny. No doubt the standards are higher no one in their right mind would claim that foreign unis (except the best of the bests) are difficult to get into. All of them are desperate for students’ money and as long as you have a pass in SPM/STPM you can even get 10 or 20 places. All you need to have is cash, a lot of them. Your case itself an excellent example of my point. You couldn’t get a place in a local uni but managed to do your degree and double masters in Australia.

    The local public unis do not depend on students’ money to survive and they have limited places thus the competition is high. But the foreign one needs money desperately so they will admit as long as you have a basic qualification.

    Again to take your case as an example. You are just 25 yet you have a deg and 2 masters, and that is without any working experience. In Malaysia, some public unis require you to have a minimal working experience (I think 2 years is the lowest but some even require you to be 5 or more). But standards of education is another matter as we are lagging behind, I admit. But as someone who did his MSc in a foreign uni (top 100 in the world) I can tell you that their stds did not impress me much.

    • sactyr@naga says:

      Industry eh? Go to Sungai Siput, go to Jalan Lintang and just ask all the Indians who are working in the oil palm and rubber estates owned by Chinese part-timers. Ask them how much they get paid.

      2&3: I don’t know why you keep stressing about racial quotas. It doesn’t matter if its overseas or local. As long as you have marks you should be considered for both.

      “The competition for the overseas scholarship is very tight especially in this semi-meritocracy system. Due to the high cost the places are limited.”

      So what? The better marks you have, easier for you to get the seats. If someone else have scored higher than the girls above then it is only fair for those scored higher to get places instead of this two girls. Right now these girls are being rejected just becase they are Indians. How unfair can that be?

      4. All your claim is wrong. Research before you talk or don’t talk at all. Refer to http://www.state.gov/g/drl/ for US
      http://www.hreoc.gov.au/ for Australia
      http://europa.eu/pol/rights/index_en.htm for EU.

      “Your case itself an excellent example of my point. You couldn’t get a place in a local uni but managed to do your degree and double masters in Australia.”

      So far I wasn’t being personal with you, but that comment is an outright personal attack. Can I ask you who told you I couldn’t get a place in a local uni? For your information, no I didn’t apply for a local uni at all and that makes your claim invalid.

      “Again to take your case as an example. You are just 25 yet you have a deg and 2 masters, and that is without any working experience. In Malaysia, some public unis require you to have a minimal working experience (I think 2 years is the lowest but some even require you to be 5 or more). But standards of education is another matter as we are lagging behind, I admit. But as someone who did his MSc in a foreign uni (top 100 in the world) I can tell you that their stds did not impress me much.”

      I just don’t see the relevance to your argument, why the need to bring in work experience? Or is this another personal attack one me?

      http://sactyr.blogspot.com

  12. Killer says:

    1. MIC : So it is you who came out with this document on the so-called Hidden History of MIC ? I did receive this document forwarded by one of my friends. Of course the details in the document was quite accurate (since they were lifted from history books) but your interpretation of the history was a complete distortion of facts.

    2. Maika : I can’t find the juicy part that you had mentioned, please point it out to me. In any case there is nothing to suggest that there was a mismanagement or fraud contributed to the fall in the value of shares.

    And since it was proven that Utaya Kumar benefitted from MIC’s education loan, are you going to stop supporting HINDRAF ?

    I have some words of advice for you. You seems have a lot of pride as an Indian and also politically conscious. But what I can’t understand that why are you keep blaming others instead of “turun padang” and help the community. If MIC failed then use your abilities to engage in activities to uplift the Indian society. Instead you content to attack MIC and run them down.

    You must remember that whether we feel about them or their efficiency & effectiveness, MIC has been working to help the community. By killing MIC you are also hurting the community. If you don’t like MIC, then do something yourself or start NGO/political party to rectify the problem. Let MIC do their own work and leave it to people to judge. Your vendetta is highly destructive as we can see after the 12GE. The MIC is in tatters and the PR parties have completely abandoned the Indians.

    Wake bro….

    • sactyr@naga says:

      1. Nope, not me. I just received it by email just like you and decided to put it up on my blog.

      2. From page 13 my dear. It is titled MAIKA Holdings – The Great Betrayal in big bold blue colour. Another patient of Acquired Intense Denial Syndrome (AIDS), aren’t you?

      3. No I won’t stop supporting Hindraf. Like I said earlier MIC is not a voluntary NGO, rather it is a political party for the public, which me, you, and Mr Uthaya are member of. So if we don’t benefit from this, then who else? Remember in a strata of society, the government is right at the bottom with the PM last. This is because the government merely executes what the public collectively tells to do.

      “Let MIC do their own work and leave it to people to judge. ”

      Did you forget that I am one of “people” to judge? Who else will judge MIC if not the people who were promised to be helped by MIC and then abandoned? And what do you mean let MIC do their own work? MIC have to do what the community wants it to do, not what Samy wants to do. If MIC members don’t understand the concept of working for the public, then they should pave way for others who have public-consciousness.

      The reason why we keep criticizing MIC is because we have this somber hope deep down in our hearts that one day MIC will turn over a new leaf, and needs to pull out its head out of its ass. Till then, we as the voters, have every right to judge and criticise MIC.

  13. Noblepath says:

    “ 4. HINDRAF’s contribution
    – The only thing they have done is to gather Indians to demo. No doubt it is an achievement but only people with small minds would consider this is as anything meaningful on long term. Demos are happening daily in Malaysia now and any Ahmad, Ah Chong and Uthaya can call for a demo. What is more important is what are the long term and short term actions that can solve the issues we are facing. “ by # Killer

    Disclaimer: I am not a HINDRAF supporter or a fan-anatic!

    First of all, why look at it in such a way? HINDRAF brought wrath to the ruling government. It sent a shockwave throughout the mesmerized-by-MIC Indian community. In short, it brought positive and negative effects to Malaysians.

    Demos are good because it displays the country’s tolerance to true democracy and freedom to assemble. In Malaysia, yeah we have many demos going on – but the government and police are not in supportive stance on demos. Elsewhere in the world, police facilitates the demos. In Malaysia? Participants are provoked or attack directly, especially if they are Indians.

    Demos = venting frustration. Demos will continue if there are no reforms done by the government. To suppress demos, government ought to listen to these people. Compromise or solve the problems.

    Yeah, so any Ahmad, Ah Chong and Uthaya can call up for the demo. But they need the balls! Aren’t you aware that many of these organizers are rounded up by police? Threatened? So, so any Ahmad, Ah Chong and Uthaya can call up for the demo – you must be dreaming!

  14. Novinthen says:

    KUALA LUMPUR: The Maju Institute of Educational Development (MIED), MIC’s education arm, has been receiving more applications for student loans, but the number of approvals is likely to be reduced due to financial constraints caused by defaulters.

    MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said although non-performing loans had been reduced to 17 per cent, the fact that other students were being denied access to these funds remained an urgent matter for MIED.

    Besides legal action against defaulters, Samy Vellu said the loan programme had been restructured by allocating funds on a yearly basis and not for the duration of the course.

    For instance, if a student pursued a three-year course, MIED would allocate funds for the first year only.

    Money for the remaining two years would depend on the student’s academic performance and additional funds provided by the student’s family.

    He said this after presenting MIED loans to 185 applicants, amounting to RM1.5 million at the MIC headquarters yesterday. Of the 185, 90 will pursue medicine.

    He said since the loan programme was established in the 1980s, about RM90 million had been disbursed to 8,500 students to pursue tertiary education.

    On the recent public university intake, he reminded Indian students who failed to secure a seat to submit their appeal to the MIC by June 26.

    The party had requested for an eight per cent intake for Indian students, but had to settle for 6.84 per cent this year.