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indians have better poverty rates and household income

December 3rd, 2007
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Deputy minister: Indians better off than Malays
Fauwaz Abdul Aziz
Dec 3, 07 6:31pm
There is lower poverty among the Indians compared to the Malays and the former also enjoy higher household incomes, the Dewan Rakyat was told today.

According to Deputy Rural and Regional Development Minister Zainal Abidin Osman (BN-Nibong Tebal), the monthly household income for Indians in 2004 was RM3,456, while it was RM2,711 for Malay households and RM4,437 for Chinese.

He said this was a five percent improvement for the Indians compared to 1999 when their household income was RM2,702.

He said the poverty rate and hardcore poverty in 2004 among Indians was at 2.9 percent, 8.3 percent among Malays and 0.6 percent among the Chinese.

This was also an improvement for the Indians from 1999, where the rate was 3.5 percent.

“Because of this, we must hold on to the true facts and figures and not allow emotions and tall tales to influence the people,” he said.

Explain to Hindraf

Zainal Abidin was replying Dr Wan Hashim Wan Teh (BN-Gerik) who asked for clarification of the per capita income and the incidence of poverty among the various communities.

“Let’s explain this issue to (Hindu Rights Action Force) Hindraf in this august House where the ethnic Indians are situated… and the number of professionals (among Indians), isn’t their percentage high in comparison with other groups?” asked Wan Hashim.

“Millions are living comfortably (in Malaysia). It is as if they are in Nirvana compared to the circumstances in Tamil Nadu.” 

Wan Hashim was referring to claims by Hindraf, a group advocating rights and better treatment of Indians, who they claim have been discriminated, marginalised and exploited.

Hindraf organised a rally on Nov 25, and managed to gather about 30,000 protestors in Kuala Lumpur.

The movement has also filed a class- action suit against the British government for bringing Indians to Malaysia as indentured labourers and exploiting them for 150 years.

GCC condemns PM

December 3rd, 2007
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PM ticked off for attack on Hindraf
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/75591
Yoges Palaniappan
Dec 3, 07 4:38pm
The Group of Concerned Citizens (GCC) has lashed out at premier Abdullah Ahmad Badawi for castigating the Hindu Rights Action Force over its claims that Indian Malaysians are being mistreated. 

At a press conference in the Parliament lobby today, an emotional GCC coordinator K Arumugam questioned Abdullah’s stance in relation to “angry and hungry Indians”.

“This is a ridiculous statement for a PM to make. He must use his ‘big ears’ and walk through the streets to look at the poor – be they Indian, Chinese or Malay – and listen to them,” he said in response to Abdullah’s statement that he has big ears and hears everything.

“This country has a major problem. When we organised a meeting in 1999, there were 3,000 people. In 2007, it turned to be 30,000 people. Do want to see 300,000 people in five years time?"

He said the government must examine the impact of poverty, as it has divided the nation along racial and religious lines. 

Arumugam also clarified that it is not the GCC’s intention to bad-mouth the MIC, as there is agreement with president S Samy Vellu's claims that the party has done a lot for the community.

However, he said that MIC, as a race-based party, will not be able to find solutions for the community’s depressed situation.

"MIC cannot and will never solve the problems. If policy makers are serious about resolving the marginalisation, they have to revamp policies," he said.

He said the MIC is not in the position to "shift even a sen into the pockets of Indians”.

“MIC has to beg and promise 101 things to the government to ensure that the votes of the Indians can be garnered and presented on a silver platter, in order to even get a seat to contest in any election. That is the reality."

Where’s the will?

Another coordinator Charles Santiago said the government must reveal its political will in overcoming the marginalisation of the community.

He said this must start from the Prime Minister's Office, with the premier chairing a high-level task force to address issues pertaining to poverty within the community.

"The problem must not be left to be addressed by MIC alone," he said, referring to the hotline set up by the Barisan Nasional component party, following the PM's request for advice on the community’s problems. 

"The people who attended the Hindraf rally (on Nov 25) are poor and vulnerable. They need help. They are Malaysians to begin with, therefore we feel that responsibility must not be left to MIC. It is the responsibility of the government to respond. 

"The federal government has legal and moral obligations to solve the problem. It must solve the issues using its policies, mechanisms and programmes."

Santiago explained that Indians have had enough with being marginalised and want real action to address the matter.

He said the MIC initiative to set up a hotline is not the solution.

"The hotline will never resolve the deep structural and institutional problems that need to be undertaken to address the issues of Indian poverty," he noted.

mosquito party starts again

December 3rd, 2007
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Have two Ministers

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THE PEOPLE’S Progressive Party has suggested that the Cabinet appoint two ministers to look into the affairs of the Indian community, Makkal Osai reported. 

PPP Youth chief T. Murugiah said there was now only one minister claiming to represent the community and all issues related to the Indians were brought to him for discussion in the Cabinet. 

“It is not easy for only one minister to handle problems faced by two million people in the country,” he said. 

Facts speak volumes, says Samy Vellu

December 3rd, 2007
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By : Jaspal Singh

SUNGAI SIPUT: The concerns of the global Indian community in the wake of the street protest organised by the Hindu Rights Action Front (Hindraf) will be allayed by the facts, MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said yesterday.

He said during his working visits to foreign countries, including India, he was often asked about the conditions of the Indian community in Malaysia. "There are two things I take into consideration when I answer such questions. The first is to explain the requests and proposals of the Indians that were met by the government. "The second is to explain those demands that have been turned down or not met. I cannot bluff like them (Hindraf organisers) and say that the Indians did not get anything," he said.

Samy Vellu was asked how he planned to explain the concerns raised by the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, M. Karunanidhi, through Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

According to The Hindu, Karunanidhi had written to Manmohan about the rally. He reportedly urged Manmohan to employ the necessary measures regarding the "suffering and bad treatment" of Tamils in Malaysia. Samy Vellu, however, was quick to say that Karunanidhi had not meant to interfere,  "He will never do such a thing. But when there are reports that 50,000 Tamils were smashed on the streets, then naturally anybody, anywhere, and not necessarily in India, will be aghast."

He said a day after the street rally, he was interviewed by a New Delhi-based television station in which he told the interviewer "not to be taken in by the protest". "This is what happens when someone starts to throw wild allegations. "Are the Indians in this country without clothes? Are they without jobs? Are they without food? I cannot bluff like them. I will tell only the truth," he said.

He lashed out at Hindraf for capitalising on the allegation that the government had indiscriminately torn down temples, saying that these people had never erected temples anywhere in the country. "They have never fought with the government to get land for the temples. Instead, they have been on a worldwide campaign that Malaysia is against Hinduism. "I, on the other hand, have acquired several plots of land from the chief ministers to build temples. I have received money from the government. Each year we get RM1 million to build temples and the money has been channelled for that purpose solely."

He also said the rally organisers had produced a CD and were distributing copies of it worldwide alleging that 35,000 temples had been demolished in the country. Rubbishing the allegation, he urged the Indians to go through newspapers of the last 20 years and to read for themselves the number of temples demolished. He reiterated that any temple in a development area would be shifted and compensation paid. "There are so many temples which were built illegally. For instance, along the double-tracking project between Ipoh and Rawang, 76 such temples were shifted and compensation paid. "Anyway, I have been working on temple matters even before he (Hindraf adviser P. Uthayakumar) was born," said Samy Vellu.

In Kuala Lumpur, the Selangor MIC welcomed the prime minister's "reassuring" stand on the Indian community. MIC deputy president and Selangor MIC chairman Datuk G. Palanivel said Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi's statement on Saturday showed how concerned he is with the situation. "Malaysian Indians are fully aware of his fair and just commitment to all," Palanivel said. "The MIC is aware of the people's grievances, but our approach is both realistic and rational." He denied claims by Hindraf that Indians were marginalised or subjected to "ethnic cleansing".

nazri on temple, khir toyo, hindraf meeting with pm, and social contract

December 3rd, 2007
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the reality as nazri says it is in the paragraphs below. the younger generation may feel 50 years is enough and its time to look forward with a new contract. post-independence, everyone worked hard to bring malaysia to its current heights. with globalisation and borderless movement, the younger generation (born after the 70s) will question the inequality which is thrust upon them. can the malays be once more kind hearted and think of malaysia's unity and future? can there be a deadline or a milestone to mark the beginning of a new malaysia, one which is really equal to all its citizens?

Asked regarding a survey commissioned by the Asia Foundation which found the majority of Chinese and Indian youths stating that they believe they were discriminated against in the country, Nazri said the incidence of inequality in Malaysia is undeniable.

However, he said this state of affairs is due to the social contract reached 50 years ago by representatives of the racial communities who agreed that Malays would enjoy certain privileges in return for the granting of citizenship rights to members of the migrant communities.

The only way such an arrangement can be changed is if future generations of Malaysians decide on revising that contract. Until then, said Nazri, the government is charged with carrying out the agreement.

“If there is any unhappiness, then it is entirely up to the future generations of Malaysians, regardless of whether they are Indians, Chinese or Malays, for them to sit down (and discuss),” he said.

“It’s not just about what the Indian and Chinese (youths) want. You have to ask the Malays also, whether they want the social contract to be renegotiated. It’s up to them…. As of today, I know the Malays are not prepared to renegotiate,” he added.

Nazri: Temple demolition 'stupid, insensitive'
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/75592

Fauwaz Abdul Aziz
Dec 3, 07 4:43pm

Stupidity, lack of sensitivity, and inexperience all came into play in the debacle surrounding the demolition of a 100-year-old temple in Shah Alam on the eve of Deepavali last month.

And these were not the words of a non-governmental organisation or opposition party leader conveying the frustrations and bitterness within the Indian community.

This was Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Nazri Abdul Aziz’s view on the destruction of the Sri Maha Mariamman temple by Shah Alam City Council (MBSA) officers in Kampung Rimba Jaya.

“It was stupid of the officials not to be considerate (and) to look into sensitive matters like this. I believe it could have been done in a better way if (the state government) had just waited a few more days. Let the Hindus celebrate their Deepavali,” he said.

“Deepavali is a religious festival. It could have been handled much better and with more sensitivity (to) the feelings of the Hindus,” he added.

He was speaking to reporters at the sidelines of the two-day Colloquium on Good Governance, Rule of Law and Human Rights organised by the Asean Inter-Parliamentary Caucus for Good Governance (AIPCGG) and the Regional Working Group for an Asean Human Rights Mechanism. The event was held in Parliament.

Nazri was commenting on the resentment felt among Indians, many of whom say they have been discriminated and marginalised.

The tearing down of the Sri Maha Mariamman temple touched a raw nerve in the Indian community not only as it occurred on the eve of Deepavali, but because it was the latest in a series of demolitions undertaken by the Selangor state government on Hindu temples in the state.

The Malaysia Hindu Sangam, the Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST) and the Selangor Coalition of Indian Community Organisations has also voiced their anger over the incident.

Even MIC had issued a statement of protest over the issue and planned a ban on Deepavali celebrations.

Khir Toyo lacks experience

While Nazri does not think Selangor Menteri Besar Dr Mohd Khir Toyo has any “personal vendetta” against Hindus, he said the manner in which the latter implemented the state’s ‘zero squatters’ policy leaves much to be desired.

“I think we (can) put it to experience, which he probably lacks. I agree with you that matters touching religious issues should be handled more cautiously and not in a wanton way according to individual whims and fancies,” said Nazri.

However, the minister was not as acquiescing on the issue of the Hindu Rights Action Front (Hindraf) and its Nov 25 rally.

Nazri said the government had always listened to the complaints of the various communities and acted on them.

He cited his own decision to open Mara junior science colleges – which had previously been reserved to Malays – to Indian youths from poor families as well as the setting up of skills and training institutes exclusively for Indian youth.

“(There are claims that) not enough is being done for the Kadazan, for the Iban and for the Chinese. Even among the Malays (some) have been unhappy because they feel the NEP (National Economic Policy) benefited only a few people,” he said,

“But that does not (have to) make them demonstrate. You want to talk about pockets of people who are not happy, there are many pockets of unhappiness among Malays and Chinese. They don’t have to demonstrate,” he added.

Nazri said the thousands of Indians who protested on Nov 25 were “incited” to do so by Hindraf’s “lies” regarding the Malaysian government’s treatment of Indians.

Nazri said Barisan Nasional component parties or their youth wings would be in the wrong if they chose to demonstrate.

He admitted that he, in his youth, had also participated in demonstrations but had admitted his guilt and paid the penalty.

“When I was in Umno Youth, I did this too. I was brought to court, I admitted my guilt, and I paid the fine,” he said, contrasting this with Hindraf’s leaders who are seeking to defend their actions.

“Not like these ruffians, these thugs. They broke the law, but they want to defend themselves. They’re wasting court time, they’re wasting government resources and tax payers’ money,” he added.

Social contract

Asked regarding a survey commissioned by the Asia Foundation which found the majority of Chinese and Indian youths stating that they believe they were discriminated against in the country, Nazri said the incidence of inequality in Malaysia is undeniable.

However, he said this state of affairs is due to the social contract reached 50 years ago by representatives of the racial communities who agreed that Malays would enjoy certain privileges in return for the granting of citizenship rights to members of the migrant communities.

The only way such an arrangement can be changed is if future generations of Malaysians decide on revising that contract. Until then, said Nazri, the government is charged with carrying out the agreement.

“If there is any unhappiness, then it is entirely up to the future generations of Malaysians, regardless of whether they are Indians, Chinese or Malays, for them to sit down (and discuss),” he said.

“It’s not just about what the Indian and Chinese (youths) want. You have to ask the Malays also, whether they want the social contract to be renegotiated. It’s up to them…. As of today, I know the Malays are not prepared to renegotiate,” he added.

Commenting on the request by Hindraf to meet Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi over the issue of Hindu rights, Nazri said it may happen as long as the front did not impose any conditions on the government.

Nazri also said MIC president S Samy Vellu would have to be present at the meeting.