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Subscribe in a reader | Subscribe to poobalan.com by Email NST reports that PKR and DAP defectors, plus UMNO defector all were in Putrajaya at Deputy PM Najib’s office. It seems BOTA Adun did a double defection and returns to UMNO. With this, BN should 7-seat majority with support of independent candidates.
| Subscribe in a reader | Subscribe to poobalan.com by Email When Bota assemblyman Nasaruddin quit UMNO to join PKR last week, PM Badawi called him weak. There were stories that the ADUN was offered posts or enticed with somethings, which obviously the ADUN denied.
Now, with two PKR assemblymen causing sleepless nights for Perak state government and Anwar, it wil be interesting to see what PM Badawi will say if these guys do quit PKR and defect to UMNO. Will BN accept weak people or will they be called heroes and patriots?
Stories are abound that the two – Behrang assemblyperson Jamaluddin Mat Radzi and Changkat Jering assemblyperson Osman Jailu were seen in Pekan together with Deputy PM Najib, while PR leader admit couldn’t get into touch with them for last few days. Menteri Besar Nizar said they were going to lodge police report on missing persons since it has been 5 days.
Most interesting is this: They were charged in a Sessions Court on Aug 25 last year with allegedly receiving bribes over the application for a RM180 million housing project in Sri Iskandar in Perak Tengah. Their case comes up for hearing on Feb 10. So in addition to being weak, they are suspects in a criminal case. All this while PR leaders said it was a frame-up, while UMNO leaders bayed for blood. Now, will UMNO accept them?
Things got worse today when Perak state assembly speaker V Sivakumar said that he had received letters of resignation from the two guys at about 5.45pm at his house (via fax?). Sivakumar subsequently proclaimed the seats as vacant and will inform Election Commission to hold by-election in 60 days. The resignation was denied by one of them – Jamaluddin (who said he was on MC all this while):
“This is an undated letter that I and six other PKR assemblymen were made to sign in March last year,” he said.
He said that the letter was only a pledge of loyalty, stating that if they (the state representative) were to ever quit PKR, they would automatically vacate their seats.
He added that the letter was signed under duress and that he would be discussing the legality of it with his lawyers.
“I am still Behrang assemblyman,” Jamaluddin was quoted as saying.
“Osman and I are still PKR state representatives and have never declared our intentions to leave the party or to become independents, or to join Umno,” he said, according to a Bernama report.
But in the Star, its reported that the assemblyman is quitting PKR and will be an independent.
So, the plot thickens.
I suspect these two guys are jumping ship, since both Malaysiakini and NST quoted PM Badawi as confirming that some PKR assemblymen are defecting to UMNO, while Star said “he neither denied nor confirmed”.
Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi today revealed that several Pakatan Rakyat state representatives from Perak could soon join the Barisan Nasional.
“God willing, it will happen,” he was quoted as saying by Bernama. He said this when asked to comment on talks that two missing Perak Pakatan state excos are defecting to BN.
… He refused to state the identity or the number of Pakatan representatives that are planning to defect.
He however added that elected representatives would want to join Umno because they had confidence in its struggle.
“(We will) accept them as it is their choice and they want to join us in the struggle… it will be a new experience for them and allow them the opportunities to serve through the BN,” said Abdullah.
“We will make the official announcement when all things are in place,” he added.
There was also question marks over deputy assembly speaker Hee Yit Fong of DAP who was missing from recent functions. Some claimed she will move to MCA. But this was denied by Hee today.
Meanwhile, on a seemingly unrelated story, Karpal Singh said that DAP will support BN’s call to create an anti-hopping law.
If those two guys quit PKR and move to UMNO (or remain independent on paper), will the court case favor them? Can the undated resignation letter be challenged?
| Subscribe in a reader | Subscribe to poobalan.com by Email From Pakatan Rakyat to Pakatan Retak. Well, what we can expect from politicians 🙂
Since Khairy Jamaludin trapped Husam Musa (or is it something pre-planned?) over the implementation of Hudud, Pakatan is getting agitated. DAP is very unhappy at PAS and Anwar Ibrahim over their stand on Hudud.
If one remembers correctly, there was no mention of Islamic laws in the agreement made the 3 parties to work together. But now, PAS is backstabbing DAP, while PKR is playing sandiwara with words since the by-election is days away.
Let’s look at extracts from a Malaysiakini report below:
Hadi said that hudud laws were not an issue in this by-election because it had already been gazetted in Terengganu when PAS held power between 1999 to 2004.
“It only applies for Muslims while non-Muslims can decide for themselves. Misunderstanding (on this issue) between Pakatan Rakyat (parties) does not arise.
“It is only Umno that is causing problems,” he added.
Lim then replied that DAP respects the opinion of its coalition partners but Pakatan Rakyat cannot make decisions as a federal government unilaterally.
“If any problems occur, we will resolve it through musyawarah, that is through discussions. All three parties must hold discussions and if a consensus is not reached, it must be discussed again.
“This means, should PKR and PAS agree to implement hudud and DAP disagrees then it cannot be implemented. Everything must be discussed until all three parties agree,” he said.
Lim went on along the same vein for about five minutes while Hadi was noticeably uncomfortable forcing Terengganu PAS chief Mustafa Ali intervened.
Mustafa told reporters that hudud was not an issue in the Kuala Terengganu by-election as the results would not have any impact on the state or federal government.
Hmm…the seat got hot for them until squirming nervously?
I always thought that PAS will back-track/backstab/break away from the coalition. Their ideology is being compromised for the sake of winning the general elections, but it cannot be surpressed for long. PKR is depending on Anwar for comments, but no news from Tian Chua and gang. They will most likely support the stronger side, and in this case, PKR-PAS team looks a better prospect than PKR-DAP prospect.
Its very hard to have a balanced partnership in any coalition. Each party would like to think of it as being the backbone of the coalition, and PAS certainly does not want to play 3rd fiddle to Anwar and DAP.
Interestingly, according to Malaysian Insider:
Speaking to The Malaysian Insider earlier, Khairy denied he had backed the implementation of hudud during his debate with Husam.
Khairy, who has in recent weeks been campaigning on a more inclusive agenda in the race for the top job in his party’s Youth wing, was quoted by The Star as saying he supported the implementation of hudud, in what would have certainly damaged his reputation among more moderate Muslims and non-Muslims.
The Star later retracted the report.
So, did he or did he not mention that he will support Hudud law? Suara Keadilan believes he did:
… The issue over hudud – not new – stirred up a storm of reaction after Husam and Khairy both declared at an open debate they would implement the Islamic law if they came to power.
… Deputy Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak too tried to limit the damage from Khairy’s comments. The son-in-law of Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi had been reported as saying he would implement hudud if he won the Umno Youth chief post. He has since said he was misquoted.
Another article from CKcounterpunch blog says:
Husam’s forthrightness led Associate Prof Mohd Agus – also participating in the forum – to ask Khairy point-blankly if he would push for hudud law if he became Umno Youth chief.
Khairy, the 32-year old son-in-law of Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, said he would.
Many in the audience were taken aback by his answer.
“It contrasted against his earlier remarks about multi-racialism and how important it was for Malaysians to shift to a new paradigm. With Husam, well, PAS and DAP have never been hypocritical about their opposing stands,” said a spectator who declined to be identified.
So, this unclear situation is not good. We may have some negative elements in BN itself who want to implement Hudud.
| Subscribe in a reader | Subscribe to poobalan.com by Email Well well well, Anwar’s support for Hudud law for Muslims only creates a storm for DAP, especially Karpal Singh.
PKR will not reject outright PAS’ plan to implement hudud law, said its de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.
He also dismissed Karpal Singh’s remark that such legislation was unconstitutional, saying that the DAP chairman was making a general statement.
He said there was no need to reject the proposal as it was only applicable to Muslims.
What was needed, said Anwar, was an in depth discussion among Pakatan Rakyat partners on contentious issues which had resurfaced following a debate between PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa and Umno Youth deputy head Khairy Jamaluddin.
“Hudud is not something new. There is allocation for it in Islam. This is what PAS has been saying all along, that it is solely for the Muslims,” he told reporters after launching the PKR main operation room for the Kuala Terengganu parliamentary by-election yesterday.
According to Anwar, all opposition parties understood Islam and that its legislative aspects should not just be confined to Syariah family or civil law.
Describing himself as a practising Muslim, Anwar stressed there was no blanket answer on hudud and that he would not emulate what former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad did, which was to oppose and reject outright hudud law when PAS first proposed it without fully understanding the issue.
He said detailed discussions on the issue could clear the air.
He also urged all dissenting voices to study the specific proposal and its provisions closely before opening their mouths.
TV3 Nightline showed a press statement from Karpal who claimed that for Hudud to be implemented, the status of country should changed to islamic state. However, since Malaysia is secular (well actually its neither there nor here), implementing Hudud is unconstitutional. Malaysiakini extract below:
PKR leader Anwar Ibrahim’s statement that people should not worry about PAS’ intention to implement hudud laws as it would only be applicable to Muslims, was today called a fallacy by DAP stalwart Karpal Singh.
He said this was because Anwar’s statement was “diametrically opposed to PAS’ avowed aim to turn Malaysia into an Islamic state” which Karpal believes would also mean the indiscriminate implementation of hudud laws.
“This has been PAS’ stand from its inception as is clearly reflected by the statements by former and present leaders of PAS.
“In fact, (PAS spiritual leader) Nik Aziz is on record to have said on Dec 22 last year that PAS would implement hudud laws with or without the support of DAP and PKR,” said Karpal in a statement today.
Both News Straits Times and The Star on Dec 23 reported on Nik Aziz’ persistence that his party would pursue the implementation of hudud laws even without the support of its other Pakatan Rakyat coalition members.
He was also quoted as saying that he could not understand why DAP was rejecting hudud laws when he believed they were similar to western laws.
“In light of this statement, there is a fallacy in Anwar’s assertion that hudud laws would only be applicable to Muslims,” Karpal reasoned.
“The pre-requisite of implementing hudud laws is the setting up of an Islamic state and as such, it is wrong for Anwar to imply that the implementation of hudud laws would not affect everyone including the non-Muslims.
“It is important for Anwar to know exactly what PAS intends to do in calling for the setting up of an Islamic state,” Karpal added.
… Meanwhile, Karpal said PAS president Hadi Awang should clear the air as to whether hudud laws were intended to be made applicable to both Muslims and non-Muslims in the event PAS succeeded in setting up an Islamic state.
“In the public interest, he should do so,” said the veteran DAP leader.
Nevertheless, Karpal reiterated DAP’s stand that the country is not an Islamic state and that the implementation of hudud laws would be “unconstitutional”.
Looks like Pakatan had fallen into BN’s trap.
For me, even though they claim Hudud will be only for muslims, sooner or later it will start to interfere in everybody’s lives. That’s inevitable since the nature of their religion is intrusive (my opinion). As it is, we have lots of problem with syariah laws and implementation by the relevant departments.
Having hudud will mean a death trap of sorts for the rest of malaysians people. Personally, i think even the more liberal muslims will not support it. imagine those famous personalities can’t wear strapless gowns at high class dinners. Muslim college students have to cover up (i still having shock over the way some of them dress at a certain uni in cyberjaya – MAIS officers will have a good time there), mat rempits having their body parts chopped off if found guilty of robbing (ok, i’m over-reacting here!).
| Subscribe in a reader | Subscribe to poobalan.com by Email This Bernama article appeared in both Star and NST. I liked the title. Sounds like a movie title ( remember Showdown in Little Tokyo, Big Trouble in Little China, or Rumble in the Bronx?)
Rumours are abound that a new party to represent Indian may be proposed especially with HINDRAF as the backbone. Also, Manikavasagam said that there will be discussion on efforts to release the ISA detainees.
Whatever it is, we can be assured that all those going will pull out all stops to gain maximum coverage in newspapers. They will try to gain as much airtime as possible.
Malaysian Indian ‘showdown’ in Chennai
KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian Indian political leaders from both sides of the country’s political divide are heading to Chennai, the capital of Tamil Nadu in India this week to attend a conference which is likely to be an explosive affair.Malaysian Indian political leaders from the MIC, DAP and PKR are heading for the southern Indian city to attend the three-day Pravasi Bharatiya Divas, better known as the Indian Diaspora Conference, starting Wednesday at the Chennai Trade Centre.
The event will also be attended by representatives of the outlawed Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf).
MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu will lead a 150-member delegation comprising top brass and divisional leaders of the Barisan Nasional component party.
“We would first attend the World Tamil Conference on Jan 6, also in Chennai. The next day would be the Pravasi. We would attend that too before flying back on Jan 10,” he told Bernama.
The DAP would send a 20-member delegation, led by Penang Deputy Chief Minister P. Ramasamy.
This is the first time in the conference’s history that Malaysian opposition parties are attending the Pravasi held in a state where the majority of Malaysian Indians originated from.
Ramasamy’s delegation, it was reported, would consist of Perak state executive councillor A. Sivanesan and Selangor state executive councillor Xavier Jayakumar.
PKR, meanwhile, would be sending a 40-member delegation.
Kapar Member of Parliament S. Manikavasagam, who recently created a controversy by threatening to quit the opposition party, said the delegation would comprise politicians and businessmen.
A check on the Pravasi website revealed that Malaysia would have four speakers: Samy Vellu, Ramasamy, Malaysian Human Rights (Suhakam) Commissioner Datuk Dr Denison Jayasooria and Human Resource Minister Datuk Dr S. Subramaniam, who is also the MIC secretary general.
After each speaker has delivered his address, the floor would be given at least 15 minutes to seek explanations from the speaker, and this is where trouble is expected.
An opposition leader who declined to be named said the opposition delegation was expected to question MIC leaders on the state of affairs of Indians in the country since the party was from the Barisan Nasional, the ruling coalition.
“Well, we have an opportunity to question them directly. We do not have the opportunity here, so I feel they would take whatever chance they have to question the MIC leaders,” he said.
To top it all, Hindraf chief P. Wathyamoorthy, who is now living in a self-imposed exile in London, is expected to attend the event with several supporters from Malaysia. — Bernama
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