Posts Tagged ‘temples’

27 places of worship approved in Selangor

October 4th, 2008
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This is indeed a good news. It would have been better if the state published the location and for for who it was approved.

However, what surprises me is the claim by the EXCO Lau Weng San that this was in response to “demolition of the
19-year-old Sri Maha Kaliamman temple near Kampung Tasek Tambahan in
Ampang on Sept 11”. Is he talking about the approval or the quit rent and lease period?

I don’t this knee-jerk response is good. There’s bound to be complaints or problems with this kind of fast approvals. Unless of course, Lau was misquoted and the figures were for the period between March and October this year because Ronnie Liu at another press conference said that “so far 27 permits for places of worship, including churches, Hindu
temples and Chinese temples on government land, had been given since
the took over the state government”.

I fail to see how 27 places can be allocated at one time, so most likely Lau or the reporter got it wrong.

The owners of 27 plots of state land approved for
places of worship in Selangor need pay only RM1,000 quit rent for the
first year and a nominal RM1 for subsequent years.

Kampung Tunku
state assemblyman Lau Weng San said this was approved by the state
government, which had also agreed to give 99-year leases on the land.

The places of worship include churches and Hindu and Buddhist
temples, he said at a press conference at the Selangor DAP headquarters
in Taman Paramount here yesterday.

Councillors of local authorities and 27 Selangor DAP committee members were present.

Lau said the move was made in response to the demolition of the
19-year-old Sri Maha Kaliamman temple near Kampung Tasek Tambahan in
Ampang on Sept 11.

Of course, all this is nice to hear, but lets see if the buildings actually rises before giving more credit. For the beginning, its a good start.

More on Ampang Kaliamman Temple issue

October 3rd, 2008
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I guess the topic is still about the Kaliamman temple since even yesterday night it still appeared on Buletin Utama news! This time, TV3 decided to focus on the suspension of the MPAJ deputy president which was decided without having a full EXCO board meeting. It showed parts of interview with the EXCO for housing, building management and squatter ( i think). He said such an action will create fear in civil servants who want to follow rules but afraid of politicians interference. He said such decisions should have been taken in EXCO meeting and not by just few people.

The news also showed ADUN for Teratai, Janice saying that they were not informed before and after the temple demolition, and only got to know via the media. She said, temple chairman said a member of public complained, and immediately the enforcement unit came and demolished the temple. I guess she herself was surprised with the speed and efficiency of the MPAJ enforcement officers. Same day response!

Next to talk was ADUN Seri Kembangan, the EXCO in charge of New Village development and Illegal Factory Solutions, Ean Yong, who said that if the deputy was founf guilty, he will be facing disciplinary action.

Now, the most important comment was by the Chief Minister Khalid himself who stammered while talking that “something must not be right” if this thing happened. I’m not sure what he was trying to say. Least convincing to hear him talk.

A quick jump to the Star for more clarity:

The state government will engage the Ampang Sri Mahakaliamman temple committee members in a dialogue to discuss relocating the temple to a more suitable place, said Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim.

Khalid added that the demolition was not in line with Pakatan Rakyat’s principles which propagated that all places of worship be given the due recognition and respect.

He added that the state government would also be talking to all local councils about the importance of decorum and sensitivity when dealing with places of worship.

According to Khalid the state government will also look into what had prompted the MPAJ to demolish the temple. Khalid also said if necessary action would be taken against the officer who had ordered the demolition.

He said the crux of the situation was ensuring that the state government delivered what was right as the Pakatan coalition stressed on justice for all.

Meanwhile, earlier I said that only MIC were making all the noise, but a day later, we see Selangor MCA’s Wanita Chief – Chew Mei Fun and  MCA Youth secretary Dr Wee Ka Siong also joining the fray.

Selangor Wanita MCA chief Datin Paduka Chew Mei Fun condemned the PKR-led Selangor government saying the party’s promise to protect houses of worship was merely a ploy to fish for votes.

“The Indian voters supported Pakatan Rakyat during the General Elections because they did not expect such treatment.”

MCA Youth secretary-general Dr Wee Ka Siong also expressed disappointment over the demolition and questioned PKR’s promise in their election manifesto.

Dr Wee urged the Selangor government especially the state’s three-men committee overseeing the matters concerning non-Muslims comprising Selangor exco members Ronnie Liu, Teresa Kok and Jayakumar to give a satisfactory reply to the demolition of the temple.

I believe this is the first time MCA representative talk about demolition of Hindu temple. Its Ok, better late than never. Ahh…the joy of being in the opposition. Isn’t it great to oppose everything and anything? 🙂

Manikavasagam withdraws threat

September 30th, 2008
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MP for Kapar initially threatened to quit his post as  Deputy State PKR chief over the demolition of temple in Ampang. Not surprisingly, he stated that he will still maintain his MP and position in PKR supreme council. He posted on his website that:

My Head is on chop board now claim Manikavasagam as he need to answer voters and supporters on this incident. Though I’m disappointed with slowness in gazetting all histrocial place of worship I hope it will materialize soon.

I guess since a temple on private land was partially demolished in Kapar, Manikavasagam is having a hard time. This second temple is giving him headache as the makkal are asking him questions. All due to Makkal Sakthi 🙂

Morever, he claims that MPAJ had issued notice to another 10 temples under its area and that the MPAJ did not even inform the two Indian representatives in the council board about its plans:

Kapar MP S. Manicka­vasagam has threatened to quit as the Selangor Parti Keadilan Rakyat liaison committee deputy chairman if no action is taken against council officers involved in a Hindu temple demolition exercise in Ampang re­­cently.

Manickavasagam, who is also a PKR supreme council member, said he might even quit the party if he was not satisfied with action taken by the state government.

He said action should be taken against the Ampang Jaya Municipal Council (MPAJ) president, its en-forcement chief and other officers involved as the matter was not referred to the state govern-ment before the temple was demolished.

“The council president also did not inform the two Indian representatives in the council’s board of the action. I have recently learnt that MPAJ sent notices of demolition to 10 other temples in the municipality.

Today, after news of MPAJ’s deputy president’s suspension came out, Manikavasagam, or Mike, retracted his threat. According to his political secretary M Shanmugam:

“Manikavasagam will retain his post as PKR deputy liaison chief for Selangor following the suspension of the person behind the demolition,” said Shanmugam.

Meanwhile, Shanmugam said he had met with Nik Nazmi Nik Ahmad, the political secretary to Selangor Menteri Besar Khalid Ibrahim and the latter had promised stern action against those responsible for the temple demolition.

“He told me that the state government was not involved with the temple demolition and that they will do a follow up after the one week suspension ends,” he added.

MPAJ deputy president suspended

September 30th, 2008
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Not sure if this is the first time or not, but first time I’m reading that a senior government official is being suspended a week effective today (well a week during Raya time is like holiday actually!) over a temple demolishment. Granted that its more of insubordination rather than the issue itself, but still a bold move by the state government.

State Local Government, Research and Study committee chairman Ronnie Liu said Ampang Jaya Muni­cipal Council (MPAJ) deputy president Hamid Hussain was being suspended pending investigations, since he was the one who allegedly ordered that the Sri Maha­kaliaman temple be demolished. According to Ronnie, the decision was made yesterday, adding that investigation by the state three-man committee on non-Muslim religious affairs comprising Teresa Kok, Dr Xavier Jayakumar and himself has begun.

“We are expecting the investigation results by Monday and we will look into the next course of action after that,” he said when contacted yesterday.

Among other things Ronnie mentioned was:

– the council president was on leave when the temple was demolished and Hamid, as the deputy, had reportedly decided on the matter.

– the state government would find a solution to the problem of the Sri Mahakaliaman temple soon.

– so far 27 permits for places of worship, including churches, Hindu temples and Chinese temples on government land, had been given since the Pakatan Rakyat took over the state government.This showed that the state government was very concerned and sensitive to religious matters, he said.

– the state government hoped not to see any new places of worship coming up on land designated as forest and river reserves. He said the people should understand that these reserves should not be occupied for other than the intended use.

Meanwhile, the man in question, Hamid Hussain. who has holidaying in Langkawi, said he did not know anything about the council’s decision to suspend him.

“I’m on Hari Raya leave now and I don’t know what is going on,” he said, adding that he had not received any notice from the state government or council.

When contacted, MPAJ president Datuk Mohammad Yacob said that he had been informed of Hamid’s suspension. “The suspension is the state exco’s decision,” he said.

“We will follow whatever decision the state exco makes as we are all here to serve the public.”

Mohammad declined further comment but said that he would wait for an interim report on the issue next week.

The state government had taken some initial action, but let’s see how serious they are in settling this problem. As MIC demanded – publish the investigation results, allocate land for the temple, and rebuilt it. I’m sure they will because according to Mohan, the temple committee are Pakatan Rakyat “supporters”.

Meanwhile, another state EXCO, Elizabeth Wong apologised on her blog and provided more clarification. Interesting to note that she realized that the temple was in FOREST reserve, thus falls under the Forestry Department and not MPAJ. Thus, according to her, MPAJ had no jurisdiction to enter and demolish the building. Not sure how true that is. Excerpts from her blog:

The Pakatan Rakyat Selangor state government policy is clear:- That no place of worship (whether surau, tokong, kuil, church etc.) built prior to 8 March 2008 is to be demolished, unless and until a suitable site has been identified for relocation.

So, imagine our horror when we found out a Hindu shrine was demolished recently. No doubt it might have been built in a forest reserve or wherever for that matter, but the policy still stands regardless; we begin with the premise that most of these places of worship were forced over the years into this grey zone, and neglected until recently.

MPAJ should not have done what it did and more so, when it is not within its jurisdiction but of Forestry Department since it is a forest reserve. This afternoon, I checked with Forestry officers and (I am somewhat relieved) they were neither involved nor aware of the operation.

This lack of compliance of directives from the Pakatan Rakyat state government is something we have been battling from Day 1. However, this is not saying everyone is recalcitrant or trying to sabotage us, but there were a number of occasions which raised eyebrows and voices. Still, the MB is somewhat very optimistic that we are able to reason and to convince all the staff that ‘our’ way or the Pakatan Rakyat’s policies are better for all.

But not in the above case of clear defiance which reeks of sabotage. Suffice to say, we have taken action on the high-ranking officer who gave the order for the demolition (and who can’t possibly feign ignorance in this matter) and amends shall be made.

(But since I have stated my preference to the Menteri Besar that only one of us speak, as opposed to four, five spokespersons in the past couple of days, I shall let the person-in-charge give the public the details later today.)

The larger picture is this:- Many of these sites of worship have been built in the last 50 years or so (if not longer) on grounds not gazetted or unsuitable for religious purposes. This is due to the practice of town planning based on politics as opposed to needs and foresight. They should not be forced to go under high tension wired places or on river reserves, or in forests and factory lots – they deserve to be part of our Malaysian public landscape (and in fact, some should be considered part of our history and heritage). Which is why I am proposing to some of the local draft plans that are undergoing review to start putting in areas for religious purposes (apart from more cemeteries, parks etc.). At the same time, the process of registering these places of worship is also ongoing.

This issue is not just an ‘Indian’ issue, but one which every Pakatan Rakyat representative, regardless of one’s ethnic or religious background, is committed to resolving.

To my Hindu friends and readers, please accept my apologies and at the same time, I sincerely urge everyone to allow our Pakatan Rakyat government to continue to make things right and to implement just and sustainable solutions to our multiple, long-standing problems.

Its good to hear that Elizabeth talking about the larger picture – we have seen places of worships built due to political interference, instead of a proper policy or guideline. Who wants to go to a temple which is next to a water tank for the “taman” or is next to an oxidation pond? However, we have to see how far such “nice to hear things” are put into place and followed.

MIC protest over temple demolition

September 30th, 2008
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Looks like MIC is learning to become an opposition party. Hope they will do well and become a good opposition party in Selangor. Yesterday, the MIC Youth. led by its acting coordinator Mohan protested at the Selangor state government building in Shah Alam. From the photos, about 80 people were there. They were there to protest the demolishment of Ampang Maha Kaliamman temple recently. According to the Star, some NGOs were also involved, but no names provided.

Mohan condemned Xavier Jayakumar over his statements that the temple was a small issue and that the municipal council was right in demolishing it.

According to the interview Mohan gave in NST (excerpts):

“He should investigate who ordered the demolition as the state did not issue any such order. However, the responsibility still lies in the hands of the state as the municipal council reports to the state.”

He said Jayakumar’s comments were an insult to the Indian community, in also referring to the the place of worship as being only a shrine.

“Even if it is a shrine, is it all right to demolish it? All this talk goes against what was said before the general election when they promised not to demolish any place of worship.”
The Sri Mahakaliamman temple was demolished by officers from the Ampang Jaya Municipal Council on Sept 9….

Under the watchful eyes of a handful of policemen, the protesters carried banners and posters criticising the Pakatan Rakyat government and demanding that Jayakumar quit.

Mohan handed over a memorandum addressed to Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim, which was received by Khalid’s political secretary, Nik Nazmi Nik Ahmad.

Mohan asked why MPAJ did not inform the state government of the demolition. He also wanted to know what the state was doing to settle this problem and also whether the state could give its assurance that no more temples would be demolished.

Mohan said the only solution now was for the state government to allow the temple to be rebuilt and the land it was on given for this purpose.

Asked whether any of the Ampang temple committee members were present at the protest, Mohan said no one was there as the temple management were Pakatan Rakyat supporters.

Asked why, then, was the MIC making a ruckus about the issue, he said a temple was a public place of worship for all Hindus and they had the right to protect it.

PPP’s rep also commented:

Federal Territory People’s Progressive Party chief A. Chandrakumanan said Jayakumar was practising a double-standard in handling this matter.

“This is especially so as he has the cheek to say it’s a small matter. Today, when he is part of the government, he is trying to protect and justify their mistake by saying that it was only a shrine built on forest reserve land.”

Interestingly, Mohan said that MIC had taken action and that was why the temple was rebuilt each time it was demolished (3 times) between 2002 and 2007. Now, this implies there was no long term solution in place while MIC was in power. Let’s hope the current state government can do better.

Anyways, here are some photos courtesy of Novinthen: