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GCC condemns PM

December 3rd, 2007
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PM ticked off for attack on Hindraf
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Yoges Palaniappan
Dec 3, 07 4:38pm
The Group of Concerned Citizens (GCC) has lashed out at premier Abdullah Ahmad Badawi for castigating the Hindu Rights Action Force over its claims that Indian Malaysians are being mistreated. 

At a press conference in the Parliament lobby today, an emotional GCC coordinator K Arumugam questioned Abdullah’s stance in relation to “angry and hungry Indians”.

“This is a ridiculous statement for a PM to make. He must use his ‘big ears’ and walk through the streets to look at the poor – be they Indian, Chinese or Malay – and listen to them,” he said in response to Abdullah’s statement that he has big ears and hears everything.

“This country has a major problem. When we organised a meeting in 1999, there were 3,000 people. In 2007, it turned to be 30,000 people. Do want to see 300,000 people in five years time?"

He said the government must examine the impact of poverty, as it has divided the nation along racial and religious lines. 

Arumugam also clarified that it is not the GCC’s intention to bad-mouth the MIC, as there is agreement with president S Samy Vellu's claims that the party has done a lot for the community.

However, he said that MIC, as a race-based party, will not be able to find solutions for the community’s depressed situation.

"MIC cannot and will never solve the problems. If policy makers are serious about resolving the marginalisation, they have to revamp policies," he said.

He said the MIC is not in the position to "shift even a sen into the pockets of Indians”.

“MIC has to beg and promise 101 things to the government to ensure that the votes of the Indians can be garnered and presented on a silver platter, in order to even get a seat to contest in any election. That is the reality."

Where’s the will?

Another coordinator Charles Santiago said the government must reveal its political will in overcoming the marginalisation of the community.

He said this must start from the Prime Minister's Office, with the premier chairing a high-level task force to address issues pertaining to poverty within the community.

"The problem must not be left to be addressed by MIC alone," he said, referring to the hotline set up by the Barisan Nasional component party, following the PM's request for advice on the community’s problems. 

"The people who attended the Hindraf rally (on Nov 25) are poor and vulnerable. They need help. They are Malaysians to begin with, therefore we feel that responsibility must not be left to MIC. It is the responsibility of the government to respond. 

"The federal government has legal and moral obligations to solve the problem. It must solve the issues using its policies, mechanisms and programmes."

Santiago explained that Indians have had enough with being marginalised and want real action to address the matter.

He said the MIC initiative to set up a hotline is not the solution.

"The hotline will never resolve the deep structural and institutional problems that need to be undertaken to address the issues of Indian poverty," he noted.

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nazri on temple, khir toyo, hindraf meeting with pm, and social contract

December 3rd, 2007
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the reality as nazri says it is in the paragraphs below. the younger generation may feel 50 years is enough and its time to look forward with a new contract. post-independence, everyone worked hard to bring malaysia to its current heights. with globalisation and borderless movement, the younger generation (born after the 70s) will question the inequality which is thrust upon them. can the malays be once more kind hearted and think of malaysia's unity and future? can there be a deadline or a milestone to mark the beginning of a new malaysia, one which is really equal to all its citizens?

Asked regarding a survey commissioned by the Asia Foundation which found the majority of Chinese and Indian youths stating that they believe they were discriminated against in the country, Nazri said the incidence of inequality in Malaysia is undeniable.

However, he said this state of affairs is due to the social contract reached 50 years ago by representatives of the racial communities who agreed that Malays would enjoy certain privileges in return for the granting of citizenship rights to members of the migrant communities.

The only way such an arrangement can be changed is if future generations of Malaysians decide on revising that contract. Until then, said Nazri, the government is charged with carrying out the agreement.

“If there is any unhappiness, then it is entirely up to the future generations of Malaysians, regardless of whether they are Indians, Chinese or Malays, for them to sit down (and discuss),” he said.

“It’s not just about what the Indian and Chinese (youths) want. You have to ask the Malays also, whether they want the social contract to be renegotiated. It’s up to them…. As of today, I know the Malays are not prepared to renegotiate,” he added.

Nazri: Temple demolition 'stupid, insensitive'
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Fauwaz Abdul Aziz
Dec 3, 07 4:43pm

Stupidity, lack of sensitivity, and inexperience all came into play in the debacle surrounding the demolition of a 100-year-old temple in Shah Alam on the eve of Deepavali last month.

And these were not the words of a non-governmental organisation or opposition party leader conveying the frustrations and bitterness within the Indian community.

This was Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Nazri Abdul Aziz’s view on the destruction of the Sri Maha Mariamman temple by Shah Alam City Council (MBSA) officers in Kampung Rimba Jaya.

“It was stupid of the officials not to be considerate (and) to look into sensitive matters like this. I believe it could have been done in a better way if (the state government) had just waited a few more days. Let the Hindus celebrate their Deepavali,” he said.

“Deepavali is a religious festival. It could have been handled much better and with more sensitivity (to) the feelings of the Hindus,” he added.

He was speaking to reporters at the sidelines of the two-day Colloquium on Good Governance, Rule of Law and Human Rights organised by the Asean Inter-Parliamentary Caucus for Good Governance (AIPCGG) and the Regional Working Group for an Asean Human Rights Mechanism. The event was held in Parliament.

Nazri was commenting on the resentment felt among Indians, many of whom say they have been discriminated and marginalised.

The tearing down of the Sri Maha Mariamman temple touched a raw nerve in the Indian community not only as it occurred on the eve of Deepavali, but because it was the latest in a series of demolitions undertaken by the Selangor state government on Hindu temples in the state.

The Malaysia Hindu Sangam, the Malaysian Consultative Council of Buddhism Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism and Taoism (MCCBCHST) and the Selangor Coalition of Indian Community Organisations has also voiced their anger over the incident.

Even MIC had issued a statement of protest over the issue and planned a ban on Deepavali celebrations.

Khir Toyo lacks experience

While Nazri does not think Selangor Menteri Besar Dr Mohd Khir Toyo has any “personal vendetta” against Hindus, he said the manner in which the latter implemented the state’s ‘zero squatters’ policy leaves much to be desired.

“I think we (can) put it to experience, which he probably lacks. I agree with you that matters touching religious issues should be handled more cautiously and not in a wanton way according to individual whims and fancies,” said Nazri.

However, the minister was not as acquiescing on the issue of the Hindu Rights Action Front (Hindraf) and its Nov 25 rally.

Nazri said the government had always listened to the complaints of the various communities and acted on them.

He cited his own decision to open Mara junior science colleges – which had previously been reserved to Malays – to Indian youths from poor families as well as the setting up of skills and training institutes exclusively for Indian youth.

“(There are claims that) not enough is being done for the Kadazan, for the Iban and for the Chinese. Even among the Malays (some) have been unhappy because they feel the NEP (National Economic Policy) benefited only a few people,” he said,

“But that does not (have to) make them demonstrate. You want to talk about pockets of people who are not happy, there are many pockets of unhappiness among Malays and Chinese. They don’t have to demonstrate,” he added.

Nazri said the thousands of Indians who protested on Nov 25 were “incited” to do so by Hindraf’s “lies” regarding the Malaysian government’s treatment of Indians.

Nazri said Barisan Nasional component parties or their youth wings would be in the wrong if they chose to demonstrate.

He admitted that he, in his youth, had also participated in demonstrations but had admitted his guilt and paid the penalty.

“When I was in Umno Youth, I did this too. I was brought to court, I admitted my guilt, and I paid the fine,” he said, contrasting this with Hindraf’s leaders who are seeking to defend their actions.

“Not like these ruffians, these thugs. They broke the law, but they want to defend themselves. They’re wasting court time, they’re wasting government resources and tax payers’ money,” he added.

Social contract

Asked regarding a survey commissioned by the Asia Foundation which found the majority of Chinese and Indian youths stating that they believe they were discriminated against in the country, Nazri said the incidence of inequality in Malaysia is undeniable.

However, he said this state of affairs is due to the social contract reached 50 years ago by representatives of the racial communities who agreed that Malays would enjoy certain privileges in return for the granting of citizenship rights to members of the migrant communities.

The only way such an arrangement can be changed is if future generations of Malaysians decide on revising that contract. Until then, said Nazri, the government is charged with carrying out the agreement.

“If there is any unhappiness, then it is entirely up to the future generations of Malaysians, regardless of whether they are Indians, Chinese or Malays, for them to sit down (and discuss),” he said.

“It’s not just about what the Indian and Chinese (youths) want. You have to ask the Malays also, whether they want the social contract to be renegotiated. It’s up to them…. As of today, I know the Malays are not prepared to renegotiate,” he added.

Commenting on the request by Hindraf to meet Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi over the issue of Hindu rights, Nazri said it may happen as long as the front did not impose any conditions on the government.

Nazri also said MIC president S Samy Vellu would have to be present at the meeting.

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empire strikes back?

December 2nd, 2007
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empire strikes back or return of the jedi? Articles from Star and NST carries PM's angry response on HINDRAF's "ethnic cleansing" accusation and use of words like "extremist government" etc. So, looks like HINDRAF's proposal to meet PM will not materialise.
 
PM  "pledged to look after the interests and the well-being of the Indian community" as quoted by Star. So, perhaps we can start by revising the 3% national wealth distribution target to 10%? 30% for bumiputra, 10% for indian, 20% for chinese, and balance (40%) left to open market?  Naturally, to push up the current 1.5% to 10%, many immediate actions have to be taken in 9th and 10 Malaysia plan. The current policies will not be sufficient to boost the percentage. We can see that for the bumiputras, it is taking decades to move few percentages, but some claim their percentages is actually above 40% (due to use of differing methodologies).
 
 

Abdullah slams Hindraf over allegations

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MALACCA: Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi tore into the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) yesterday, saying that it is spreading blatant lies with the intention of arousing hatred among multiracial Malaysians and sparking racial clashes.  Singling out Hindraf's accusation that the Government was carrying out ethnic cleansing of the Indians in Malaysia, the Prime Minister fumed: "I'm really angry, I rarely get angry but this blatant lie cannot be tolerated at all."  Abdullah even offered to resign if there was proof that the Government was involved in ethnic cleansing.  He said he did not want the people, especially the Indians, to be misled by Hindraf's unfounded claims and allegations, hoping that other races would not show sympathy towards the Indian activist group. 

However, despite his anger during the 20-minute press conference where he dealt mostly with the Hindraf issue, Abdullah pledged to look after the interests and the well-being of the Indian community.  "The social problems faced by the Indian community are clear. I have never said no. We support the Indians but there are some quarters instigating them and making them feel unhappy with the Government," he said..  

 

Allegations of ethnic cleansing are all lies, says PM

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MALACCA: A visibly angry Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has hit out at the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) for their baseless allegations that the Government carried out ethnic cleansing of Indians.  "The allegations are all lies to deceive the Indians that they are an exploited race. Malaysians will not believe this. Even the Malaysian Indians will not believe this.   "Ethnic cleansing is something which was done in Bosnia. We do not do it in this country.  "I'm really angry; I rarely get angry but this blatant lie cannot be tolerated at all," he told reporters after opening Kampung Hadhari in Tanjung Bidara. 

Abdullah said that he was prepared to resign if there was proof that there was ethnic cleansing in the country.  "Tell me, do you believe there is ethnic cleansing in Malaysia? Is there ethnic cleansing, tell me? If I allow this, I would resign.  "Tell me, you are an Indian and so are you (looking at Indian media personnel), have we been doing it for the past 50 years or even for that matter one week, have we done this?" he asked. 

Abdullah said the Government had never marginalised the Indians in the mainstream development of the nation.  "I've helped them, I've helped them in many ways. They want money to repair their temples, I help because we respect other religions and they are not our enemies, they have cooperated very well with us, this is what has happened," he said. 

Abdullah said the Government had always given attention to the various requests made by MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu to improve the socio-economic status of the Indian community.  "Be it to appoint senators or elected representatives, we give attention to and support all the requests," he said. 

Abdullah said the nation had enjoyed 50 years of Independence without any uneasiness among the Indian community.  "The Indians have played their role. They have given strong support to the Government and Barisan Nasional. They know we are just and fair.  "But sadly, some have been influenced by Hindraf and I hope they will evaluate Hindraf's statements carefully," he added.   Abdullah said there was no truth to the claims in the Hindraf memorandum that a Government-backed extremist group had destroyed a temple in Kampung Jawa, Klang, on Nov 15. 

"This is a lie created by certain groups to create hatred among the Indians towards the Government."   He said lies like this could cause racial conflict between the Malays and the Indians.  "Is this what we are seeking in Malaysia, where there has been no problems between Muslims and Indians or Islam and Hinduism?" 

The Prime Minister said holding street protests, including by a group calling themselves "Bersih" on Nov 10, purportedly to bring about reforms in the country's electoral system for a fair and open elections, was not the right way.  Abdullah said the Election Commission had decided to use the indelible ink and transparent ballot boxes in the next general election. "With the transparent ballot box, everybody will know the ballots are inside when the boxes are taken (to the tallying centre). It's the same with postal votes; others can come and see what is happening during postal voting," he said. 

Abdullah added that the latest economic figures showed the Malaysian economy has improved by 6.7 percentage points, all indicators are pointing towards progress, and the economy is showing positive growth signs.   He said that he was not prepared to let the country be destroyed by the actions of these groups.  "I do not want our country which is growing steadily and attracting foreign investors to be destroyed. We do not want the country to be in chaos by their actions," he said. 

 

Rights of minorities are protected, says Abdullah

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ALOR GAJAH: The prime minister yesterday gave the assurance that minority races in the country are protected under the law and continue to enjoy the fruits of development.

Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said this was because Islam required Muslims to be fair and that representatives of all the races were in the government. He said the minorities in the country — whether Indians, Chinese or people of other races — would have a place in the nation as guaranteed in the Constitution.  "The minorities will get protection under the law, enjoy the development that the nation experiences and continue to progress. We are a country which practises the sharing of power and in the government, there are representatives from all races. We sit down together and decide what is best for the country and the people. "We do not sideline any race or religion. There is no such thing as ethnic cleansing… this is for sure."  Abdullah said the government would continue to help the Indian community by providing education, equal opportunities and other benefits.

"I have to be fair to all and this is something which is a must in Islam. One day, I will die and according to Islam, Allah will judge me.
"Allah will evaluate me and question me if I have been just and fair. Have you done this or not? I cannot lie. Allah knows if I lie. As a Muslim, I cannot be enemies with others, I cannot hate any race, I cannot hate any group."

Speaking at the launch of the Hadhari Village in Kampung Tanjung Bidara, Abdullah, who was accompanied by his wife, Datin Seri Jeanne Abdullah, said the implementation of Islam Hadhari or "civilisational Islam" was aimed at enhancing the quality of life of Malaysians, regardless of race and religion.  Abdullah said if approached honestly and sincerely, Islam Hadhari's 10 principles could be a guide to progress for all Malaysians. He said Islam Hadhari was a comprehensive approach to ensuring development, peace and stability.

"For us Muslims, sometimes we argue about what we are doing in the name of Islam and we face numerous hurdles to understand this. As for the non-Muslims, they are monitoring what we do and looking if the things we are doing in the name of Islam cause them any hardship, or if it is something which is against the teachings of their religion. "They (non-Muslims) are given the freedom of religion under the constitution." He said Islam Hadhari was not a new sect, nor was it something new.  "It is the manhaj or approach of Islam. It is based on what is best for the nation and takes into account the multiracial and multireligious people. "All Malaysians want development and the 10 principles of Islam Hadhari are being used as guidelines for the development of the nation." He said nine of the 10 principles of Islam Hadhari stressed the importance of gaining knowledge as only knowledge could empower the people to build a better nation.

 
 
Government doing its best for Indians, says PM

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ALOR GAJAH: An outraged Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi yesterday blasted Hindraf's claims of the mistreatment of Malaysian Indians as lies intended to divide the races and destroy the country's peace.

"I rarely get angry but this time I am very angry and this is something I cannot accept,"he said. The prime minister took grave exception to a memorandum asking the British government to lead an international condemnation of Malaysia 's "atrocities" against Indians. "Hindraf is making baseless allegations and wants the United Kingdom to move an emergency United Nations resolution condemning ethnic cleansing in Malaysia.

"Tell me, do you believe there is ethnic cleansing in Malaysia? Is there ethnic cleansing, tell me? If this happened, I will resign," Abdullah said at a press conference after launching Kampung Tanjung Bidara as the country's second Islam Hadhari village. "Tell me, you are an Indian and so are you (referring to Indian reporters), have we been doing it for the past 50 years, have we done this?"he asked. "Malaysians would not believe it. Even the Indians who are Hindus do not believe it. Ethnic cleansing was perpetrated in Bosnia where the Serbs attacked the Bosnians to chase them out and make them non-existent. It was backed by the state. We do not do this here," he said.

Hindraf legal adviser P. Uthayakumar has resorted to the British before. In May 2004, he went to London to apply for asylum alleging police harassment in relation to a death-in-custody case he had taken up. He returned to Malaysia about a month later after Tan Sri Musa Hassan, then the federal CID director and now inspector-general of police, advised him to substantiate his allegations.

Abdullah also slammed Hindraf's charge that "government backed armed Islamic extremists" had destroyed a temple in Klang. "There is no such thing. This a lie conjured by certain groups to create hatred among the Indians for the government." In its memorandum, Hindraf also appealed to the British government to refer Malaysia to the World Court and the International Criminal Court for "crimes against ethnic minority Indians".

Describing the Indian community as "innocent and good people", Abdullah said it had contributed to nation- building. "They have done their part and supported the government. They are strong supporters of the Barisan Nasional and they surely do so because they believe we are fair to all." Abdullah said the government was doing its best for the Indians and cited his experience in helping the community in his parliamentary constituency of Kepala Batas. "There are many Indians in Kepala Batas and I help them.

Funds are provided to repair their temples as we respect their religion. "They are not our enemy but we sit together and muafakat (co-operate).

" Abdullah said MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu was constantly bringing the community's requests to him. "Samy makes requests to me for the Indian community and I approve and give them grants. I have never said no. We support the Indians but there are some quarters inciting them and making them unhappy with the government." The prime minister called on Malaysians, especially the Indians, to carefully evaluate the Hindraf memorandum and statements.

"I do not want Indians to be duped by them." Abdullah said many had gone to Hindraf's illegal rally to hear what it had to say about the oppression of and crimes against the Indian community by the government. "These are all lies that can cause racial conflict in the country, especially between the Indians and Malays. Is this what we want? In Malaysia, there has been no conflict between the Muslims and Indians or Islam and Hinduism. It has never happened,"he said. Abdullah felt Hindraf's bigger motive was to cause chaos and disturb the peace. "This country has rules and laws. We have a constitution and we are successful today as we abide by it and hold firmly to the Rukun Negara." Asked for his views on other planned street demonstrations, Abdullah said he had instructed the police to deal with them and take the appropriate measures.

This month, the Bar Council is staging its annual walk for human rights while Bersih is planning a demonstration outside Parliament House on Dec 11 to protest a constitutional amendment allowing election commissioners to serve until the age of 66. A third demonstration is being planned by the opposition and non-governmental organisations to protest road toll increases due next year.

"I have asked the police to talk to them and do what is appropriate. In fact, this should not happen. Why must street demonstrations be chosen to bring change and present demands?"he asked. As an example, he said many of the proposals of the Bersih demonstration on Nov 10 had already been fulfilled. The Election Commission had introduced the use of indelible ink and transparent ballot boxes. In addition, the names of the dead had been erased under an exercise to clean up the electoral roll. Abdullah said the Election Commission had worked out arrangements for party representatives to be present when postal votes were cast.

"But despite this, they do not believe us but think only they (the opposition) are right. If we are a rotten government, we would have been removed as the people are not stupid and cannot be cheated." Abdullah said the BN had governed for 50 years and had brought development. "I admit there are weaknesses and there is still work to be done. There is no country in the world or any leader who can say he has done everything and there are no more poor people in his country." He pointed out that development was a process that did not end. "There are still poor people (in the country) and we still need to bring them out of poverty. We have to strengthen ties between the races and religions." Abdullah said he was not prepared to leave the country hostage to irresponsible groups. "I do not want our country, which is growing steadily and attracting investors, to be destroyed. I do not want the country to be in disarray as a result of the action of an irresponsible few."

 

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revoke citizenship says rustam

December 2nd, 2007
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Isn't asking another person's citizenship to be revoked against the law or something?
 
Umno V-P: Revoke their citizenship

MALACCA: Umno vice-president Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam has rebuked Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) leaders for their “outrageous actions” and urged the Government to revoke their citizenship.  He said Hindraf’s claim that the country was involved in ethnic cleansing was slanderous and very serious.  “There is no such thing. They should be in jail for saying that,” he said at the launch of the Federation of Malay Economic Bodies (Gabem) southern region and Federal Territory here yesterday.  Mohd Ali said he would fully support it if the Internal Security Act was used against those who organised the illegal Hindraf gathering.  “They are going to send their memorandum to India, Britain and even the United Nations. These people are betraying their own country,” he added.  

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hindraf plans to sidestep mic

December 2nd, 2007
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As response to the MIC committee and hotline proposal, HINDRAF wants to deal directly without any middleman. proposal is for PM’s dept to handle the proposal. funny thing is, PM is the one that proposed the committee idea.

anyway, life goes on for the various local councils and other authorities. more temples planned for demolishment. Was informed that the one in section 18 shah alam is also in the list. they managed to get an extensions of sorts for two weeks. details are still sketchy.

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Hindraf wants to meet Prime Minister and UMNO leadership to discuss our 18 points demands.
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MEDIA STATEMENT (1-12-2007 )

1. Hindraf wants to meet Prime Minister and UMNO leadership to discuss our 18 points demands.

2. Hindraf rejects MIC special committee and MIC hotline proposal as it has not worked over the lasts 50 years.

3. Hindraf wants Special committee and hotline to be lead by Prime Minister’s office.

With reference to the Prime Minister’s statement that he is prepared to listen to all Malaysians, we are hereby once again requesting an urgent appointments with the Prime Minister and the UMNO leadership to especially discuss the 18 point demands which has duly been forwarded to your goodselves on 12/8/07 at Putrajaya.

We wish to reiterate that we have no confidence in the MIC Special Committee and MIC hotline proposal as hundreds such committees and hotlines have been proposed and had before in the last 50 years but with almost zero results

We would like this special Committee and the hotline to be lead handled and implemented by the Prime Minister’s Office and the UMNO led Malaysian government.

It is plain and obvious that then UMNO’s mandore system (supervise ) has never effectively worked.

If the Prime Minister and the Umno led government are sincere in addressing and resolving especially the poor ethnic minority Indian problems, please meet and hear out.

We regret that despite the desperate public outcry on 25/11/2007, the UMNO led Malaysian government still went ahead and on 27/11/2007 ruthlessly demolishing the poor Indian homeless people’s squatter houses in kampung Tropicana Subang Jaya. No proper alternative houses were accorded to them.

Thereafter on 29/11/2007 UMNO came in with hundreds of policemen enforcement officers and bulldozers an UMNO mob and Indian gangster wanting to demolish the Arumigu Nava Thurgai (Behind Market Jalan Kuala Ketil) Hindu Temple , Sungai Petani Kedah. Only when thousand of hindus prevented them did they back off but promised to demolish the temple next week in the early hours of the morning as what they did to the Kg Karupaih, Padang Jawa Mariamma Hindu Temple on 30/10/07.

TO UMNO : We are a very small minority- only 8% of the population.

Please do not bully us with your mighty majortarian might ie. your army, police, enforcement personnel, Attorney General, Judiciary Civil service etc.

Don’t hit a fly with a sledgehammer.

Please treat us with some dignity and humanity.

50 years is enough!

Thank You,
Yours Faithfully

P. Uthaya Kumar
Legal Adviser

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