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empire strikes back?

December 2nd, 2007
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empire strikes back or return of the jedi? Articles from Star and NST carries PM's angry response on HINDRAF's "ethnic cleansing" accusation and use of words like "extremist government" etc. So, looks like HINDRAF's proposal to meet PM will not materialise.
 
PM  "pledged to look after the interests and the well-being of the Indian community" as quoted by Star. So, perhaps we can start by revising the 3% national wealth distribution target to 10%? 30% for bumiputra, 10% for indian, 20% for chinese, and balance (40%) left to open market?  Naturally, to push up the current 1.5% to 10%, many immediate actions have to be taken in 9th and 10 Malaysia plan. The current policies will not be sufficient to boost the percentage. We can see that for the bumiputras, it is taking decades to move few percentages, but some claim their percentages is actually above 40% (due to use of differing methodologies).
 
 

Abdullah slams Hindraf over allegations

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MALACCA: Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi tore into the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) yesterday, saying that it is spreading blatant lies with the intention of arousing hatred among multiracial Malaysians and sparking racial clashes.  Singling out Hindraf's accusation that the Government was carrying out ethnic cleansing of the Indians in Malaysia, the Prime Minister fumed: "I'm really angry, I rarely get angry but this blatant lie cannot be tolerated at all."  Abdullah even offered to resign if there was proof that the Government was involved in ethnic cleansing.  He said he did not want the people, especially the Indians, to be misled by Hindraf's unfounded claims and allegations, hoping that other races would not show sympathy towards the Indian activist group. 

However, despite his anger during the 20-minute press conference where he dealt mostly with the Hindraf issue, Abdullah pledged to look after the interests and the well-being of the Indian community.  "The social problems faced by the Indian community are clear. I have never said no. We support the Indians but there are some quarters instigating them and making them feel unhappy with the Government," he said..  

 

Allegations of ethnic cleansing are all lies, says PM

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By A. LETCHUMANAN

MALACCA: A visibly angry Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has hit out at the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) for their baseless allegations that the Government carried out ethnic cleansing of Indians.  "The allegations are all lies to deceive the Indians that they are an exploited race. Malaysians will not believe this. Even the Malaysian Indians will not believe this.   "Ethnic cleansing is something which was done in Bosnia. We do not do it in this country.  "I'm really angry; I rarely get angry but this blatant lie cannot be tolerated at all," he told reporters after opening Kampung Hadhari in Tanjung Bidara. 

Abdullah said that he was prepared to resign if there was proof that there was ethnic cleansing in the country.  "Tell me, do you believe there is ethnic cleansing in Malaysia? Is there ethnic cleansing, tell me? If I allow this, I would resign.  "Tell me, you are an Indian and so are you (looking at Indian media personnel), have we been doing it for the past 50 years or even for that matter one week, have we done this?" he asked. 

Abdullah said the Government had never marginalised the Indians in the mainstream development of the nation.  "I've helped them, I've helped them in many ways. They want money to repair their temples, I help because we respect other religions and they are not our enemies, they have cooperated very well with us, this is what has happened," he said. 

Abdullah said the Government had always given attention to the various requests made by MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu to improve the socio-economic status of the Indian community.  "Be it to appoint senators or elected representatives, we give attention to and support all the requests," he said. 

Abdullah said the nation had enjoyed 50 years of Independence without any uneasiness among the Indian community.  "The Indians have played their role. They have given strong support to the Government and Barisan Nasional. They know we are just and fair.  "But sadly, some have been influenced by Hindraf and I hope they will evaluate Hindraf's statements carefully," he added.   Abdullah said there was no truth to the claims in the Hindraf memorandum that a Government-backed extremist group had destroyed a temple in Kampung Jawa, Klang, on Nov 15. 

"This is a lie created by certain groups to create hatred among the Indians towards the Government."   He said lies like this could cause racial conflict between the Malays and the Indians.  "Is this what we are seeking in Malaysia, where there has been no problems between Muslims and Indians or Islam and Hinduism?" 

The Prime Minister said holding street protests, including by a group calling themselves "Bersih" on Nov 10, purportedly to bring about reforms in the country's electoral system for a fair and open elections, was not the right way.  Abdullah said the Election Commission had decided to use the indelible ink and transparent ballot boxes in the next general election. "With the transparent ballot box, everybody will know the ballots are inside when the boxes are taken (to the tallying centre). It's the same with postal votes; others can come and see what is happening during postal voting," he said. 

Abdullah added that the latest economic figures showed the Malaysian economy has improved by 6.7 percentage points, all indicators are pointing towards progress, and the economy is showing positive growth signs.   He said that he was not prepared to let the country be destroyed by the actions of these groups.  "I do not want our country which is growing steadily and attracting foreign investors to be destroyed. We do not want the country to be in chaos by their actions," he said. 

 

Rights of minorities are protected, says Abdullah

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ALOR GAJAH: The prime minister yesterday gave the assurance that minority races in the country are protected under the law and continue to enjoy the fruits of development.

Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said this was because Islam required Muslims to be fair and that representatives of all the races were in the government. He said the minorities in the country — whether Indians, Chinese or people of other races — would have a place in the nation as guaranteed in the Constitution.  "The minorities will get protection under the law, enjoy the development that the nation experiences and continue to progress. We are a country which practises the sharing of power and in the government, there are representatives from all races. We sit down together and decide what is best for the country and the people. "We do not sideline any race or religion. There is no such thing as ethnic cleansing… this is for sure."  Abdullah said the government would continue to help the Indian community by providing education, equal opportunities and other benefits.

"I have to be fair to all and this is something which is a must in Islam. One day, I will die and according to Islam, Allah will judge me.
"Allah will evaluate me and question me if I have been just and fair. Have you done this or not? I cannot lie. Allah knows if I lie. As a Muslim, I cannot be enemies with others, I cannot hate any race, I cannot hate any group."

Speaking at the launch of the Hadhari Village in Kampung Tanjung Bidara, Abdullah, who was accompanied by his wife, Datin Seri Jeanne Abdullah, said the implementation of Islam Hadhari or "civilisational Islam" was aimed at enhancing the quality of life of Malaysians, regardless of race and religion.  Abdullah said if approached honestly and sincerely, Islam Hadhari's 10 principles could be a guide to progress for all Malaysians. He said Islam Hadhari was a comprehensive approach to ensuring development, peace and stability.

"For us Muslims, sometimes we argue about what we are doing in the name of Islam and we face numerous hurdles to understand this. As for the non-Muslims, they are monitoring what we do and looking if the things we are doing in the name of Islam cause them any hardship, or if it is something which is against the teachings of their religion. "They (non-Muslims) are given the freedom of religion under the constitution." He said Islam Hadhari was not a new sect, nor was it something new.  "It is the manhaj or approach of Islam. It is based on what is best for the nation and takes into account the multiracial and multireligious people. "All Malaysians want development and the 10 principles of Islam Hadhari are being used as guidelines for the development of the nation." He said nine of the 10 principles of Islam Hadhari stressed the importance of gaining knowledge as only knowledge could empower the people to build a better nation.

 
 
Government doing its best for Indians, says PM

V. Vasudevan and Jason Gerald John

 

ALOR GAJAH: An outraged Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi yesterday blasted Hindraf's claims of the mistreatment of Malaysian Indians as lies intended to divide the races and destroy the country's peace.

"I rarely get angry but this time I am very angry and this is something I cannot accept,"he said. The prime minister took grave exception to a memorandum asking the British government to lead an international condemnation of Malaysia 's "atrocities" against Indians. "Hindraf is making baseless allegations and wants the United Kingdom to move an emergency United Nations resolution condemning ethnic cleansing in Malaysia.

"Tell me, do you believe there is ethnic cleansing in Malaysia? Is there ethnic cleansing, tell me? If this happened, I will resign," Abdullah said at a press conference after launching Kampung Tanjung Bidara as the country's second Islam Hadhari village. "Tell me, you are an Indian and so are you (referring to Indian reporters), have we been doing it for the past 50 years, have we done this?"he asked. "Malaysians would not believe it. Even the Indians who are Hindus do not believe it. Ethnic cleansing was perpetrated in Bosnia where the Serbs attacked the Bosnians to chase them out and make them non-existent. It was backed by the state. We do not do this here," he said.

Hindraf legal adviser P. Uthayakumar has resorted to the British before. In May 2004, he went to London to apply for asylum alleging police harassment in relation to a death-in-custody case he had taken up. He returned to Malaysia about a month later after Tan Sri Musa Hassan, then the federal CID director and now inspector-general of police, advised him to substantiate his allegations.

Abdullah also slammed Hindraf's charge that "government backed armed Islamic extremists" had destroyed a temple in Klang. "There is no such thing. This a lie conjured by certain groups to create hatred among the Indians for the government." In its memorandum, Hindraf also appealed to the British government to refer Malaysia to the World Court and the International Criminal Court for "crimes against ethnic minority Indians".

Describing the Indian community as "innocent and good people", Abdullah said it had contributed to nation- building. "They have done their part and supported the government. They are strong supporters of the Barisan Nasional and they surely do so because they believe we are fair to all." Abdullah said the government was doing its best for the Indians and cited his experience in helping the community in his parliamentary constituency of Kepala Batas. "There are many Indians in Kepala Batas and I help them.

Funds are provided to repair their temples as we respect their religion. "They are not our enemy but we sit together and muafakat (co-operate).

" Abdullah said MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu was constantly bringing the community's requests to him. "Samy makes requests to me for the Indian community and I approve and give them grants. I have never said no. We support the Indians but there are some quarters inciting them and making them unhappy with the government." The prime minister called on Malaysians, especially the Indians, to carefully evaluate the Hindraf memorandum and statements.

"I do not want Indians to be duped by them." Abdullah said many had gone to Hindraf's illegal rally to hear what it had to say about the oppression of and crimes against the Indian community by the government. "These are all lies that can cause racial conflict in the country, especially between the Indians and Malays. Is this what we want? In Malaysia, there has been no conflict between the Muslims and Indians or Islam and Hinduism. It has never happened,"he said. Abdullah felt Hindraf's bigger motive was to cause chaos and disturb the peace. "This country has rules and laws. We have a constitution and we are successful today as we abide by it and hold firmly to the Rukun Negara." Asked for his views on other planned street demonstrations, Abdullah said he had instructed the police to deal with them and take the appropriate measures.

This month, the Bar Council is staging its annual walk for human rights while Bersih is planning a demonstration outside Parliament House on Dec 11 to protest a constitutional amendment allowing election commissioners to serve until the age of 66. A third demonstration is being planned by the opposition and non-governmental organisations to protest road toll increases due next year.

"I have asked the police to talk to them and do what is appropriate. In fact, this should not happen. Why must street demonstrations be chosen to bring change and present demands?"he asked. As an example, he said many of the proposals of the Bersih demonstration on Nov 10 had already been fulfilled. The Election Commission had introduced the use of indelible ink and transparent ballot boxes. In addition, the names of the dead had been erased under an exercise to clean up the electoral roll. Abdullah said the Election Commission had worked out arrangements for party representatives to be present when postal votes were cast.

"But despite this, they do not believe us but think only they (the opposition) are right. If we are a rotten government, we would have been removed as the people are not stupid and cannot be cheated." Abdullah said the BN had governed for 50 years and had brought development. "I admit there are weaknesses and there is still work to be done. There is no country in the world or any leader who can say he has done everything and there are no more poor people in his country." He pointed out that development was a process that did not end. "There are still poor people (in the country) and we still need to bring them out of poverty. We have to strengthen ties between the races and religions." Abdullah said he was not prepared to leave the country hostage to irresponsible groups. "I do not want our country, which is growing steadily and attracting investors, to be destroyed. I do not want the country to be in disarray as a result of the action of an irresponsible few."

 

khir toyo advises indians

December 2nd, 2007
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Change mindset and work hard, says Khir

PORT KLANG: Let us sit and discuss issues together, Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Dr Mohd Khir Toyo told the Indian community in Selangor.  “The state government will play its part but Indians too must play a role to improve themselves,” he told reporters after inspecting the safety of the Pulau Ketam jetty here yesterday.  He added that Indians must not think that they are marginalised simply because they are poor.  “One must work hard to come up in life, as even Malays who are lazy will not succeed. The same goes for Chinese and Indians,” he said. 

The Mentri Besar urged Indians to place emphasis on their children’s education, as this would help free the community of its socio-economic problems.  “I strongly believe that Indians can come up in life through education,” he said, advising more of them to pursue government programmes that could help them out.  “Take, for instance, the RM3mil allocated to train and educate Indian students who did not do well in school.  “Out of the 300 who enrolled, only 100 passed. Others failed and some did not even turn up for classes,” he said. 

Dr Mohd Khir said Selangor also provided council homes for everyone, but the Indians initially did not want to take up the offer as they felt that the RM25,000 price for each unit was too high.  “Then, when the cost of the houses went up to RM35,000 they did the same and asked for a lower price,” he said. 

He added that Selangor was the only state that provides free land for the construction of temples. 

Dr Mohd Khir said he became Mentri Besar in 2001 at the time of communal clashes in Kampung Medan and he slept in one of the temples there during the two weeks when he was making daily visits to the place.  He added that he spent time with the Indian community there and discussed with them their grouses and ways to overcome them.

hindraf plans to sidestep mic

December 2nd, 2007
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As response to the MIC committee and hotline proposal, HINDRAF wants to deal directly without any middleman. proposal is for PM’s dept to handle the proposal. funny thing is, PM is the one that proposed the committee idea.

anyway, life goes on for the various local councils and other authorities. more temples planned for demolishment. Was informed that the one in section 18 shah alam is also in the list. they managed to get an extensions of sorts for two weeks. details are still sketchy.

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Hindraf wants to meet Prime Minister and UMNO leadership to discuss our 18 points demands.
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MEDIA STATEMENT (1-12-2007 )

1. Hindraf wants to meet Prime Minister and UMNO leadership to discuss our 18 points demands.

2. Hindraf rejects MIC special committee and MIC hotline proposal as it has not worked over the lasts 50 years.

3. Hindraf wants Special committee and hotline to be lead by Prime Minister’s office.

With reference to the Prime Minister’s statement that he is prepared to listen to all Malaysians, we are hereby once again requesting an urgent appointments with the Prime Minister and the UMNO leadership to especially discuss the 18 point demands which has duly been forwarded to your goodselves on 12/8/07 at Putrajaya.

We wish to reiterate that we have no confidence in the MIC Special Committee and MIC hotline proposal as hundreds such committees and hotlines have been proposed and had before in the last 50 years but with almost zero results

We would like this special Committee and the hotline to be lead handled and implemented by the Prime Minister’s Office and the UMNO led Malaysian government.

It is plain and obvious that then UMNO’s mandore system (supervise ) has never effectively worked.

If the Prime Minister and the Umno led government are sincere in addressing and resolving especially the poor ethnic minority Indian problems, please meet and hear out.

We regret that despite the desperate public outcry on 25/11/2007, the UMNO led Malaysian government still went ahead and on 27/11/2007 ruthlessly demolishing the poor Indian homeless people’s squatter houses in kampung Tropicana Subang Jaya. No proper alternative houses were accorded to them.

Thereafter on 29/11/2007 UMNO came in with hundreds of policemen enforcement officers and bulldozers an UMNO mob and Indian gangster wanting to demolish the Arumigu Nava Thurgai (Behind Market Jalan Kuala Ketil) Hindu Temple , Sungai Petani Kedah. Only when thousand of hindus prevented them did they back off but promised to demolish the temple next week in the early hours of the morning as what they did to the Kg Karupaih, Padang Jawa Mariamma Hindu Temple on 30/10/07.

TO UMNO : We are a very small minority- only 8% of the population.

Please do not bully us with your mighty majortarian might ie. your army, police, enforcement personnel, Attorney General, Judiciary Civil service etc.

Don’t hit a fly with a sledgehammer.

Please treat us with some dignity and humanity.

50 years is enough!

Thank You,
Yours Faithfully

P. Uthaya Kumar
Legal Adviser

gcc handover complaint to suhakam

November 30th, 2007
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Police slammed for 'racial stance'
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/75519
Andrew Ong
Nov 30, 07 4:49pm

The Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (Suhakam) should come out to condemn acts of racial profiling by the government and the authorities, said a lobby group. 

The Group of Concerned Citizens (GCC), lodging a complaint about an incident in Batu Caves, Selayang, last Sunday, said these acts occurred when:

• Almost 100 people were charged in court in connection with the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) rally in Kuala Lumpur; and 

• Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Nazri Abdul Aziz referred to rally participants as penyangak (crooks). 

GCC representative M Manohar told Suhakam commissioner Prof Khoo Kay Kim today that the police had been selective in their actions, by remanding and charging Hindraf supporters but not those who attended the Bersih rally two weeks before.

Manohar said he believed this was racially motivated because the Bersih rally participants were mostly Malays, while the those at the Hindraf protest were mainly Indians.

“Suhakam must find out why no one was remanded or charged over the Bersih rally… we believe there is some racial element involved,” he said.

More than 40,000 people took part in the Bersih (Coalition for Free and Fair Elections) rally on Nov 10. About 200 people were arrested but have not been charged to date.

During the Hindraf rally in Kuala Lumpur, almost 400 people were arrested and 88 were charged for various offences on Wednesday. 

On Nazri’s penyangak remark, another GCC representative Charles Santiago told Khoo that such acts were unacceptable and unbecoming of a minister.

“Such sinister attempts at racial profiling of a disadvantaged minority community as ‘violent people’ speaks volumes of the failure of race-based politics in Malaysia,” he said.

He also urged Suhakam to issue a written condemnation of Nazri’s remark.

Photo evidence

GCC’s complaint letter was officially handed over to Khoo by several of those who said they were affected in the Batu Caves incident.

Their allegations encompassed alleged use of excessive force by the police to disperse the crowd that had gathered there on Sunday morning, several hours ahead of the Hindraf rally in the city centre.

Santiago used a series of photographs to show Khoo how the Federal Reserve Unit (FRU) had fired tear gas and used water cannon against those caught within the temple compound.

One photograph depicted several FRU members inside the compound – the site of one of the holiest Hindu shrines in Malaysia.

Santiago said the FRU had entered the compound and assaulted people, including those who were there to perform prayers in conjunction with the holy festival of Karthikai.

One victim, K Ramesh, said he and his family members had just finished performing their prayers, when the FRU struck.

“They came in and arrested me and my brother. One of them pushed my mother and she fell,” he claimed, adding that he was forced to surrender his identity card and it was not given back.

Another eyewitness, G Ashok Kumar ( photo), 47, told Khoo that he was with another group in Batu Caves intending to proceed to KLCC for the rally.

He said the police locked the main entrance to the compound at about 4.30am, forcing many in the crowd to sit near the gate.

Ashok said several of them were arrested as they tried to leave the compound, and that some angry people then hurled projectiles at the police.

“After that, they just kept on pumping tear gas inside… (the police said) there was no body contact. That was absolutely rubbish. There was lots of body contact (when people tried to flee),” he said.

Inspector-General of Police Musa Hassan has steadfastly maintained that there was “no body contact” between the police and the crowd.

Approached for comments later, Khoo (photo) skirted a question on whether he felt there were human rights violations during the Batu Caves incident.

“From what that has been conveyed, there appears to be a question to be addressed with regard to the interpretation of the law,” said Khoo.

The upcoming commission meeting on Dec 10 will decide the next course of action based on complaints in hand.

MIC reacts with committee

November 30th, 2007
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tamil schools already have existing forums which is the state tamil school coordinators, plus tamil school HM association, plus the MIC exco in states are briefed about the schools.

temples also same – there's MHS, MIC excos, even committee in Perak and KL.

does it mean that all this didn't work until now?

whatever it is, we shall give our suggestions and do our part.

The Star's version is over here.

MIC's new approach on community woes
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/75495

Nov 30, 07 12:45pm
The MIC will be setting up a special committee and a call centre soon to help the Indian community to overcome its woes.

According to a Bernama
report, Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has asked MIC to form a special committee to prepare a complete report on demands by the Indian community as a follow-up to the party's proposals in June.

The news agency quoted MIC president S Samy Vellu as saying that the directive followed a meeting with Abdullah on Wednesday.

"The committee was asked to study the proposals in the report titled "New Mechanism for the Indian Community" presented to the Prime Minister in June," said Samy Vellu.

Samy Vellu, who is also the works minister, added that Abdullah sympathised with the MIC's requests and promised to study them.

"However, he asked the special committee to put in new proposals."

The new proposals include data on non-Bumiputeras in the public sector, posts and vacancies at the federal, state and local authority-level, and giving priority to recruiting non-Bumiputeras in areas where they have high population concentration in sectors like welfare, education, health and youth.

On the call centre proposal, Samy Vellu said the hotline would enable the public to channel their problems to the party. He said issues such as temples and Tamil schools could be made known to the party through the call centre.

"The MIC is a responsible party which represents the Indian community and has the social, moral and political obligations to protect the interest of Indians.

"It will continue to struggle for the betterment of the Indian community so that they can progress together with the other communities towards achieving the objectives of Vision 2020," he added in the Bernama report.

While the NST says this:

PM open to MIC proposals

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KUALA LUMPUR: The prime minister is sympathetic and open to proposals forwarded to him by the MIC leadership concerning socio-economic ills affecting the Indian community.

MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi was very receptive to the proposals which were contained in a 12-page report entitled "Mechanism for Effective Delivery for the Indian Community".

He said the report was handed over to the prime minister in May.

"The prime minister even suggested including additional input among the proposals, so that all areas are covered."

Samy Vellu, who headed the committee that prepared the proposals, said they included investment opportunities, skilled training, micro-credit facilities, education, employment health and issues pertaining to temples.

He said Abdullah had directed his deputy, Datuk Seri Najib Razak, to study the proposals and work with the MIC leadership to conduct periodic reviews to address the plight of the Indian community.

"The periodic review is to ensure that the proposals agreed to are carried out effectively," he said after chairing the party's central working committee meeting at the MIC headquarters.

Samy Vellu added that the proposals included budget allocations under the Ninth Malaysia Plan to ensure that the Indian community would not be marginalised when the country achieved its "Vision 2020" aspirations.